Arnel and Neal: CBS5 Interview

[ttango1]

I think this is another example of what a good soul Arnel is...and again, he's being honest here and it's interesting to see Neal jump in and do a little damage control. I think folks in the JRNY organization were pissed at the RS article and this is a way of controlling that.

And I think they have done a decent job of damage control here. Nice to see Arnel in vision rather than print.

Thats pretty much my gut feeling on that one to be honest.. Blatantly Arnel's honesty has ruffled a few fethers in 'Camp Journey' and this is them limiting the 'damage' or speculation..

What is it? Is the water tainted with something that retards the human thought process?
Andrew meant the following things:
1-Arnel is a good honest soul.
2-Neal jumped into the interview to help show that the Rolling Stone article is way off-base in it's article.
3-JRNY was mad and having Arnel & Neal talk about it helps to debunk the Rolling Stone assertion.

SO...HOW DOES THAT MEAN THAT ARNEL'S HONESTY HAS RUFFLED FEATHERS? If anything, his honesty has helped to bridge some of the tensions from singers past. He talks about his experiences instead of bottling them up.

[finalfight]

I think this is another example of what a good soul Arnel is...and again, he's being honest here and it's interesting to see Neal jump in and do a little damage control. I think folks in the JRNY organization were pissed at the RS article and this is a way of controlling that.

And I think they have done a decent job of damage control here. Nice to see Arnel in vision rather than print.

Thats pretty much my gut feeling on that one to be honest.. Blatantly Arnel's honesty has ruffled a few fethers in 'Camp Journey' and this is them limiting the 'damage' or speculation..

I doubt the full length interview would have ruffled anyone's feathers. the chopped and screwed version however was out of the band's hands. Looks like all is well. What a nice gift the laptop was too.

Rock on!

[StoneCold]

I see the laptop "gift" as a non issue because does he really have time to be toolin' round various towns shopping?

He's "mo bile" right now anyway. He just said, here's what I'd like and somebody went and got it for him.

I bet its a Macbook (built in webcam). But if its a Dell, then they're cheap.

[pineda1]

how much is arnel's salary?

not good enough to get his own laptop i guess!

You serious right now? Your 11th post says this?

Why such remark? It is obviously a joke.

[Enigma869]

Other companies give me free shit during the course of my employment that I could've bought myself. Big deal.

Right, but usually bands aren't an "employee"/"employer" relationship. Also, what the hell was Neal doing there, if Arnel was trying to clear some things up??? As far as I can tell, Arnel's English is just fine and Neal didn't need to be there to translate!


John from Boston

[Jana]

He was probably a little guarded after the last RS interview. This is only part of the interview. The whole interview will air Friday, so I'm sure the rest of the interview was about other things. Things are going great on the tour as far as a successful tour So I'm sure they didn't like the RS interview, but they've been around a long time. Things blow over. But like Andrew said, Arnel is such a good soul. I saw a transcript of his visit the other night at his site, and he's already got his charitable organization almost set up for the street children of the Philippines. I came away amazed that he's focused on this in his first year with Journey, when he's been on the road most of the time. Most people, if they even wanted to do it, would do it in a few years down the road. You just can't help but like this guy, great person, great talent.


"Arnel makes me a better guy just knowing him" - Jonathan Cain

[jrnyjetster]

Because if Arnel is being paid what he should be getting paid, why the heck would Neal have to buy the guy a laptop? Sorry, just seems odd to me.

John, let me ask you something.....WHY do you always have to come up with these lame excuses to support your accusations about this band? You don't know jack fucking squat about Arnel's contract or how he's taken care of...so WHY comment?

[Enigma869]

John, let me ask you something.....WHY do you always have to come up with these lame excuses to support your accusations about this band? You don't know jack fucking squat about Arnel's contract or how he's taken care of...so WHY comment?

Listen assfuck...I can and will comment any time I see fit! Last I checked, you're not a moderator on this board! Until Andrew gives you a badge, keep your fucking mouth shut, and go fuck yourself!


John from Boston

[Tito]

I told you there was no problem. Everybody is a good guy.

[EightyRock]

Now this is pretty friggin funny. Arnel originally says what's on his mind and obviously couldn't conceal his homesickness. Now the Journey Camp, no doubt with the Fro and Friggameister at the forefront, are trying to spin Arnel's original intent to make it look it was all written out of context.

Geez, the dude can't have an authentic emotion and talk about it without Neal ,Cain , and their p.r. goons going nuts. They've slapped Arnel's hand now, so don't expect to hear anything but the status quo from now on...."Journey is the greatest thing to ever happen to me" and "Everything is fantastic"!! I guess this is how they've kept their puppets...er....singers in line, since Perry loosened his vice-grip from their balls.

[Tito]

He still admitted he's homesick in the interview, repeatedly, BUT said it's not that bad and he has a good gig.

Neal said he's been misquoting thousands of times and mentioned GQ magazine. I wonder if that was in regards to the "f-ck him" comment.

What did Neal say at the end, when he said we're not in our 20s no more and then he said except... I couldn't make out what he said. Does anyone know what he said?

[Jana]

EightyRock states: "Now this is pretty friggin funny. Arnel originally says what's on his mind and obviously couldn't conceal his homesickness. Now the Journey Camp, no doubt with the Fro and Friggameister at the forefront, are trying to spin Arnel's original intent to make it look it was all written out of context.

Geez, the dude can't have an authentic emotion and talk about it without Neal ,Cain , and their p.r. goons going nuts. They've slapped Arnel's hand now, so don't expect to hear anything but the status quo from now on...."Journey is the greatest thing to ever happen to me" and "Everything is fantastic"!! I guess this is how they've kept their puppets...er....singers in line, since Perry loosened his vice-grip from their balls. "

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Did you read the Q & A portion of Rolling Stone interview? It shows it was taken out of context and the actual article based on the Q & A was slanted in a negative context. The part in the title "curse," he was talking about job is fantastic but it's a curse to have to fill big shoes, meaning Steve Perry's.

[EightyRock]

EightyRock states: "Now this is pretty friggin funny. Arnel originally says what's on his mind and obviously couldn't conceal his homesickness. Now the Journey Camp, no doubt with the Fro and Friggameister at the forefront, are trying to spin Arnel's original intent to make it look it was all written out of context.

Geez, the dude can't have an authentic emotion and talk about it without Neal ,Cain , and their p.r. goons going nuts. They've slapped Arnel's hand now, so don't expect to hear anything but the status quo from now on...."Journey is the greatest thing to ever happen to me" and "Everything is fantastic"!! I guess this is how they've kept their puppets...er....singers in line, since Perry loosened his vice-grip from their balls. "

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Did you read the Q & A portion of Rolling Stone interview? It shows it was taken out of context and the actual article based on the Q & A was slanted in a negative context. The part in the title "curse," he was talking about job is fantastic but it's a curse to have to fill big shoes, meaning Steve Perry's.

I re-read the entire Q&A. I don't see anything slanted in a negative way. It was the tone of the interview. What I took away from from the article is that Arnel, while greatful and in awe of his opportunity, struggles daily with the schedule, homesickness, and how long he will be able to pull this off. He told his manager AND Neal after he had been hired that he didn't think he could do it. Now he's just taking it day by day. That doesn't sound like somebody having the time of their life, nomatter how much lipstick you put on the pig.

[Fire99]

I think this is another example of what a good soul Arnel is...and again, he's being honest here and it's interesting to see Neal jump in and do a little damage control. I think folks in the JRNY organization were pissed at the RS article and this is a way of controlling that.

And I think they have done a decent job of damage control here. Nice to see Arnel in vision rather than print.

Thats pretty much my gut feeling on that one to be honest.. Blatantly Arnel's honesty has ruffled a few fethers in 'Camp Journey' and this is them limiting the 'damage' or speculation..

What is it? Is the water tainted with something that retards the human thought process?
Andrew meant the following things:
1-Arnel is a good honest soul.
2-Neal jumped into the interview to help show that the Rolling Stone article is way off-base in it's article.
3-JRNY was mad and having Arnel & Neal talk about it helps to debunk the Rolling Stone assertion.

SO...HOW DOES THAT MEAN THAT ARNEL'S HONESTY HAS RUFFLED FEATHERS? If anything, his honesty has helped to bridge some of the tensions from singers past. He talks about his experiences instead of bottling them up.

Calm youself man!!!

Strewth, people jump on everything these days.

Nothing wrong with Arnel's interview but with the benefit of Rolling Stone etc etc, there has been much interpretation of the interview that Arnel wasn't happy and likely to quit and various other scare stories..

That is what will have ruffled feathers.......

If it hadn't, Schon wouldn't of appeared with Arnel to smooth the wheels of the Apple cart.

Now rein yer neck in...

[nutz4Neal]

He still admitted he's homesick in the interview, repeatedly, BUT said it's not that bad and he has a good gig.

Neal said he's been misquoting thousands of times and mentioned GQ magazine. I wonder if that was in regards to the "f-ck him" comment.

What did Neal say at the end, when he said we're not in our 20s no more and then he said except... I couldn't make out what he said. Does anyone know what he said?

After Neal said we're not in our 20's anymore, he said something like "just our 30's" then laughing he says "wishful thinking".

[annpea]

Now this is pretty friggin funny. Arnel originally says what's on his mind and obviously couldn't conceal his homesickness. Now the Journey Camp, no doubt with the Fro and Friggameister at the forefront, are trying to spin Arnel's original intent to make it look it was all written out of context.

Geez, the dude can't have an authentic emotion and talk about it without Neal ,Cain , and their p.r. goons going nuts. They've slapped Arnel's hand now, so don't expect to hear anything but the status quo from now on...."Journey is the greatest thing to ever happen to me" and "Everything is fantastic"!! I guess this is how they've kept their puppets...er....singers in line, since Perry loosened his vice-grip from their balls.

Maybe , Perry should show Arnel how to use the vice-grips, I noticed how Neal wouldn't let Arnel complete a full sentence on his own. Arnel looked like he would be guitar whipped if he said the wrong thing.

[Jana]

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Jana States: Did you read the Q & A portion of Rolling Stone interview? It shows it was taken out of context and the actual article based on the Q & A was slanted in a negative context. The part in the title "curse," he was talking about job is fantastic but it's a curse to have to fill big shoes, meaning Steve Perry's."

EightyRock states: "I re-read the entire Q&A. I don't see anything slanted in a negative way. It was the tone of the interview. What I took away from from the article is that Arnel, while greatful and in awe of his opportunity, struggles daily with the schedule, homesickness, and how long he will be able to pull this off. He told his manager AND Neal after he had been hired that he didn't think he could do it. Now he's just taking it day by day. That doesn't sound like somebody having the time of their life, nomatter how much lipstick you put on the pig. :lol"

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I think it was slanted negatively. But I do think it's the end of the tour and he is tired and very exhausted. No, I don't think he is having the time of his life right now. He's at the end of a grueling tour and he's tired and very homesick. Arnel came on the next day talking to his fans and didn't seem concerned at all about the article. It's an adjustment and he needs to get home, rest, get rejuvenated.

But I personally think they need to stop these three-day back-to-back shows next tour, and the song set especially in the beginning of the tour is so tough. Even Kevin Shirley said with this set he didn't know if even Steve P. could do it, because they're taking every powerhouse song from all the albums. I'm glad they're mixing it up wiith some of the older stuff like the song with Jonathan and letting Deen sing now. They need to mix up the music and not blow out his voice in the next few years. Even Neal said in an interview recently that it's a tough gig and he wouldn't wish to be the lead singer for anything.

[journel]

how much is arnel's salary?

not good enough to get his own laptop i guess!

You serious right now? Your 11th post says this?

Why such remark? It is obviously a joke.

exactly...maybe the op is just having a bad day or plain no sense of humour!

[jrnyman28]

I think this is another example of what a good soul Arnel is...and again, he's being honest here and it's interesting to see Neal jump in and do a little damage control. I think folks in the JRNY organization were pissed at the RS article and this is a way of controlling that.

And I think they have done a decent job of damage control here. Nice to see Arnel in vision rather than print.

I cannot recall every seeing Journey react this fast for damage control.....in fact, I don't remember the last time I saw ANY damage control from this band!

[jrnyman28]

As for the laptop....they will probably just take it outta 'Nel's check!

[Deb]

I think this is another example of what a good soul Arnel is...and again, he's being honest here and it's interesting to see Neal jump in and do a little damage control. I think folks in the JRNY organization were pissed at the RS article and this is a way of controlling that.

And I think they have done a decent job of damage control here. Nice to see Arnel in vision rather than print.

Just love Arnel in that clip, he seems like such a sweet soul. But it bothered me....everytime Arnel talked about being homesick, Neal starts talking. LOL and now Neal's ok with his lead singer having a separate bus......sure whined about Perry having one. And that comment about not knowing and not doing as much next tour, how could they not know what rigorous touring does to their lead singers???? I just get this awful feeling they (the Journey machine) are just going to eat him up and spit him out.

[Tito]

I think this is another example of what a good soul Arnel is...and again, he's being honest here and it's interesting to see Neal jump in and do a little damage control. I think folks in the JRNY organization were pissed at the RS article and this is a way of controlling that.

And I think they have done a decent job of damage control here. Nice to see Arnel in vision rather than print.

Just love Arnel in that clip, he seems like such a sweet soul. But it bothered me....everytime Arnel talked about being homesick, Neal starts talking. LOL and now Neal's ok with his lead singer having a separate bus......sure whined about Perry having one. And that comment about not knowing and not doing as much next tour, how could they not know what rigorous touring does to their lead singers???? I just get this awful feeling they (the Journey machine) are just going to eat him up and spit him out.

Your fears are unfounded.

[Deb]

I think this is another example of what a good soul Arnel is...and again, he's being honest here and it's interesting to see Neal jump in and do a little damage control. I think folks in the JRNY organization were pissed at the RS article and this is a way of controlling that.

And I think they have done a decent job of damage control here. Nice to see Arnel in vision rather than print.

Just love Arnel in that clip, he seems like such a sweet soul. But it bothered me....everytime Arnel talked about being homesick, Neal starts talking. LOL and now Neal's ok with his lead singer having a separate bus......sure whined about Perry having one. And that comment about not knowing and not doing as much next tour, how could they not know what rigorous touring does to their lead singers???? I just get this awful feeling they (the Journey machine) are just going to eat him up and spit him out.

Your fears are unfounded.

Hope so, for Arnel's sake. But I just can't see him pushing back to the extent Perry or Soto would have.

[Tito]

I think this is another example of what a good soul Arnel is...and again, he's being honest here and it's interesting to see Neal jump in and do a little damage control. I think folks in the JRNY organization were pissed at the RS article and this is a way of controlling that.

And I think they have done a decent job of damage control here. Nice to see Arnel in vision rather than print.

Just love Arnel in that clip, he seems like such a sweet soul. But it bothered me....everytime Arnel talked about being homesick, Neal starts talking. LOL and now Neal's ok with his lead singer having a separate bus......sure whined about Perry having one. And that comment about not knowing and not doing as much next tour, how could they not know what rigorous touring does to their lead singers???? I just get this awful feeling they (the Journey machine) are just going to eat him up and spit him out.

Your fears are unfounded.

Hope so, for Arnel's sake. But I just can't see him pushing back to the extent Perry or Soto would have.

Everything is fine. No problem.

[Saint John]

Hope so, for Arnel's sake. But I just can't see him pushing back to the extent Perry or Soto would have.

lol...This whole notion that Soto would have said anything and driven any sort of creative control is bullshit!!! He wouldn't have said anything!!! The gig pays too much. Yeah, he's gonna risk stadium shows over 25 people at Paladino's. Riiiiiight. Again, you lump in Soto with a legend. Perry had the talent and the hits to demand shit. Soto has neither...relatively speaking. I think Neal and Jon know what they're doing and a guy with the resume of Soto doesn't have anything on his plate to demand anything. Would they have entertained his thoughts and ideas? Absolutely. Would he have contributed? Absolutely. But don't tell me for one fucking second that after they were done laughing at any demand he made they wouldn't have sent his ass packing. Or maybe they did.

[G.I.Jim]

Hope so, for Arnel's sake. But I just can't see him pushing back to the extent Perry or Soto would have.

lol...This whole notion that Soto would have said anything and driven any sort of creative control is bullshit!!! He wouldn't have said anything!!! The gig pays too much. Yeah, he's gonna risk stadium shows over 25 people at Paladino's. Riiiiiight. Again, you lump in Soto with a legend. Perry had the talent and the hits to demand shit. Soto has neither...relatively speaking. I think Neal and Jon know what they're doing and a guy with the resume of Soto doesn't have anything on his plate to demand anything. Would they have entertained his thoughts and ideas? Absolutely. Would he have contributed? Absolutely. But don't tell me for one fucking second that after they were done laughing at any demand he made they wouldn't have sent his ass packing. Or maybe they did.

You get my vote for the post of the day award! I couldn't agree more.

[Deb]

Hope so, for Arnel's sake. But I just can't see him pushing back to the extent Perry or Soto would have.

lol...This whole notion that Soto would have said anything and driven any sort of creative control is bullshit!!! He wouldn't have said anything!!! The gig pays too much. Yeah, he's gonna risk stadium shows over 25 people at Paladino's. Riiiiiight. Again, you lump in Soto with a legend. Perry had the talent and the hits to demand shit. Soto has neither...relatively speaking. I think Neal and Jon know what they're doing and a guy with the resume of Soto doesn't have anything on his plate to demand anything. Would they have entertained his thoughts and ideas? Absolutely. Would he have contributed? Absolutely. But don't tell me for one fucking second that after they were done laughing at any demand he made they wouldn't have sent his ass packing. Or maybe they did.

Wow, you got all that from my post above? And I'll lump whatever singers together I want, thank you very much. We have very different opinions on singers, and that's fine, but I can't even have a respectful debate with you when every f*cking post you make has to contain an attendance dig at Soto.

[Saint John]

I can't even have a respectful debate with you when every f*cking post you make has to contain an attendance dig at Soto.

I was told there were 25 people there to see him. If my attendance number is off I apologize.

[Deb]

I can't even have a respectful debate with you when every f*cking post you make has to contain an attendance dig at Soto.

I was told there were 25 people there to see him. If my attendance number is off I apologize.

Ya riiiiiiight. If somebody truly did tell you that then the person either wasn't even there or they meant MR peeps.....cuz at least 20 to 25 alone were MR people....in the crowd.

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

I can't even have a respectful debate with you when every f*cking post you make has to contain an attendance dig at Soto.

I was told there were 25 people there to see him. If my attendance number is off I apologize.

Ya riiiiiiight. If somebody truly did tell you that then the person either wasn't even there or they meant MR peeps.....cuz at least 20 to 25 alone were MR people....in the crowd.

she's right, Dan. There were more.