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Postby WIX » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:28 am

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madsplash wrote:Long time lurker, first post. Be gentle :lol:
I'm a male "loon". Nothing sexual
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Good Day, I find this statement very intriging along with your user name.

I am not a Loon
Nothing Sexual
Just a One Night Mad Splash years ago :shock:

Hmmmm :lol:

I am surprised Stevew DIDN'T GRAB THIS STATEMENT and go gay gay over it !! bwahahahahahahaha

Welcome.


Dictionary: Mad Splash, George Michaels episode in a lavatory was called a weak attemp at a "Mad Splash" a dive when no KY Jelly was used surely to cause a tear, thus MAD !!! :twisted: :P


Yuck! My username is because I'm a drummer and love splash cymbals. Nothing more and really nothing to do with gayness or George Michael. Not that there's anything wrong with it! (Can you tell that I think Seinfeld is the greatest show ever made)?




bwhahaahahahahah, well for christs sake don't visualize it then

carry on !! :D
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Re: Steve's Voice

Postby stevew2 » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:50 am

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madsplash wrote:Long time lurker, first post. Be gentle :lol:
I'm a male "loon". Nothing sexual(I'm married, with child), I just am completely awestruck and inspired by the man's gift and legacy.

That being said, I know I'm in the minority, but I PREFER Steve's voice from Frontiers and after. To me, it gained texture and emotion. I've been listening to TBF recently and think that "Don't Be Down On Me Baby" is my favorite ballad performance of his.

I've also read about some of the reviews fron the FTLOSM tour. When I saw him in Pittsburgh, his voice was great. Some of the songs were lowered a half-step, and most were not.

Anyway, I'm happy to be posting on this forum with so many fans that love Journey and Steve as much as I do. As for the whole new version of the band, obviously I prefer the band with Steve, but since we'll never see that again(or will we?), I'm just glad that they continue on with Arnel. Those songs are so great, they deserve to be heard live by new generations, as well as ours.

When the reunion happened in 96, I was thrilled. The huge album debut, then the let down when the tour never happened was horrible. We all have our opinions as to what happened, but if Steve needed time to have his hip fixed, I can't imagine why the others couldn't have waited for him. They had just waited 9 years, what's another one? Who knows? Maybe the people who say that Steve knew he couldn't tour those songs are right.

Thanks for letting me have my long-winded post and I look forward to continuing to read and post on this great place!

P.S. The new album is going to happen. Not if, but when. I know a couple people who say that Steve did indeed have work done on his chords and that he sounds as good as the Frontiers era. I guess we'll see!



All right, now, be warned, there is just a bit of rambling babble coming ahead. I recently found this website and unlike other forums that I have looked at you people seem a bit more vocal and less neurotic about what you say. First, I don`t think there is anything wrong with a man liking Steve Perry`s voice. I am a fair-weather Journey fan, although, I saw a Journey concert back in the 80’s even took pictures, but I was not obsessed with them. Did not buy albums or t-shirts, I was a Jackson Five kind of gal. Matter of fact, it wasn’t until recently that I even knew all the Journey men’s names. I am going through personal pain, who isn’t these days, so I listened to Journey, their music is healing to me, and for a moment I felt better. When I needed Journey and Steve Perry after not having heard them in years they were there for me. I am also a bit of an artist, so while I listened to Journey I wrote my feelings down. In between writing I looked up Journey and Steve Perry online, did a bit of research, but unfortunately what I found on their part was bitterness, resentment, countless articles and hate-fuelled mentions especially about Perry, how sad. I had no idea those men ended on such a sour note. I was annoyed after watching the VH1 Behind the Music special on Journey back in 2001 now that I think about it. Of course the video was edited, nonetheless it made me sad and resentful that Journey ended so poorly and left their fans to deal with it. I was especially upset that Perry dropped off the face of the earth leaving his fans hanging while his ex-comrades continued on, “the hell with him,” was my motto. Then I realized Journey weren`t just artists they are human beings. So, I came up with my own way to help cope with the loss of the five men whose music I enjoy. First I wrote a book about Journey and the elusive Perry. Then I made You Tube videos to go along with it. Silliness, but whatever. Then I thought about a couple of things regarding Journey and Steve Perry that helped me not personalize their breakup. Keep in mind, writing one`s feelings and thoughts is not interpreted the same as what you read on paper or computer screen. Try not to over-analyzed what you see before you. Here we go...
1. A marriage of equals can lead to emotional bankruptcy; I said this somewhere else online. And all the men involved with Journey were equally talented, ambitious and believed in themselves. While I hate that these like-minded artists may resent each other, or whatever the hell is wrong with them, I accept that they parted; after all I was not involved in their “marriage” I was just a fan who listened to their great music. I am sure one day before they are too old or dead they will be friends again, if they aren’t already.
2. If Perry retired, good for him. He had his fun and left a great voice to listen for years to come. Why he walked away does not matter, there is no point in wondering why if he does not want people to know why. If Perry is trying to make a comeback, fine, perhaps he will be good enough to tell the world. Right now, I see Perry as an older man living life like anyone else. Don`t need to see him, don`t care to get his autograph or photo because his vibe and how he lives his life is exactly what he gives off, private. So, I leave him to his privacy.
3. I believe Neal Schon never approached the level of success he wanted, meaning, he is not quite a one-name wonder like Clapton; Santana and Escovedo. I think therein lies a bit of resentment on his part towards Perry which might have to do with some of the bitterness if he is in fact resentful. Can happen, artists are human. Besides, everyone knows the lead singer tends to get the attention and feelings can get hurt. I was so mesmerized by Mike Jackson`s talents it took me years to notice his brothers were on stage with him!
4. Perry is coy about his comeback, silly, I hate being dangled on a thread, but maybe he is coy because he is and always will be an artist and artists can be tormented. The good news is artists will forever create because they have to, it is an emotional necessity as far as I am concerned. Then again, maybe Perry left a legacy that he probably feels he cannot live up to as he is getting older. He is probably a perfectionist who seeks perfection where there isn’t any. I expect Perry wants to come back, but does not feel he may appease his fans. Just my thoughts. But, Perry CAN sing, he is talented and he is an artist, that much we all know. And if Perry does return to singing, and he should hurry as we none of us are getting any younger, great I will purchase his cd.
You all still there? Well, I guess everyone has an opinion, that is what these forums are for. Thanks for listening to my babbling mess. For whatever reason( s) Journey no longer exists in the five men I once knew, Cain; Schon; Smith; Perry and Valory, I am happy to have cds, dvds and YOUTUBE. I LOVE that Houston DVD. I know there are people out there who appreciate the quality of Journey and Perry’s music as much as I do and who are convicted and emotional enough to speak online from time to time. Nothing wrong with that. Back in the day when I was into Journey no one I knew appreciated them, I felt like such an outsider. Now, wow, I had I had no idea there were so many fans! And, since Perry has not sung in so long I was amazed he had fans or forums! I can write a hundred books and do a thousand foolish videos trying to jokingly “heal” him and his ex-comrades, but it is only a bit of fun on my part, nothing more. I am a fan, albeit fair-weather, but those five men are helping me heal and that is all that matters to me right now. (my mom is dying, nothing new to most of us, I am sure). BTW – I won’t be able to offer my Journey/Steve Perry book to the public because I have taken certain liberties with fan blogs and excerpts that I have not cleared. But, if you are in need of a wicked foolish tickle, and good-hearted, smart-ass humor you can hear excerpts on my You Tube channel. Actually, I did send drafts to a Bay Area fan club per a friend’s advice, but did not want to because those people are not agents or managers for Journey and Perry, they did not need to be made privy. But, I sent it anyway with handmade gifts and a cover letter and suffice it to say I never got a “thanks, or “what the hell...” No stress on my part. But, I am getting positive YOUTUBE feedback from fans which is very kind. So check if you would like. Until then, all the best, you people have good taste in music. MBPL (Mocha Bus Pass Lady – also my You Tube channel name)
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Postby stevew2 » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:53 am

SusieP wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
madsplash wrote:Wow, I didn't mean to aggrivate anyone on my first post! :lol: I'm really sorry.
The info that I have was told to my sister by her friend of 20+ years, who worked as a sound engineer
in 2 studios in the San Fernando Valley. He said that he was told by 2 producers that they have been
working with SP on new material in his home studio and in another local studio. He was also told by one
of the producers that SP had work done on his voice and sounded better than he had in 25 years.

I'm just an SP/Journey fan like everyone else here who happens to be related to someone who has
a friend in the industry. I trust it to be reliable, but until something happens, we won't know for sure.

I promise that I won't post anything else that I'm told unless I know it to be complete fact.
I didn't meant to make anyone think that I was trying to give hints and not say more.
What I said is the extent of what I know.

Again, sorry to any that I offended, I won't do it again. This is, by far, the most educated and enjoyable
Journey forum around and I'm happy to be here.
You re cool,dont pay any attention to 90 %of the knuckel heads
on here. Just watch your spelling and you ll be fine


Yeah and maybe get stevew2 to make you an avatar. :lol:
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Re: Steve's Voice

Postby stevew2 » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:55 am

WIX wrote:
madsplash wrote:Long time lurker, first post. Be gentle :lol:
I'm a male "loon". Nothing sexual
quote]


Good Day, I find this statement very intriging along with your user name.

I am not a Loon
Nothing Sexual
Just a One Night Mad Splash years ago :shock:

Hmmmm :lol:

I am surprised Stevew DIDN'T GRAB THIS STATEMENT and go gay gay over it !! bwahahahahahahaha

Welcome.


Dictionary: Mad Splash, George Michaels episode in a lavatory was called a weak attemp at a "Mad Splash" a dive when no KY Jelly was used surely to cause a tear, thus MAD !!! :twisted: :P
I think im going to throw up
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Postby stevew2 » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:57 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Fuck it, im starting my own dictionary, fuckers


I thought you already had
SWebters2.....and I like it!!! :wink:
Ill send you the first copy, COD of course lol we can work something out [if ya know what i mean]


awww, I have no COD!!! How about some Bass, or White Perch? :wink:
Some bASS and a bottle of wine will work lol
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Postby MBPL » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:03 am

:shock: I could swear to God my bit of babble was spaced differently when I cut and pasted from my word document! I cut and pasted, turned of the computer and...welp, this is why I do not do forums, I write like I talk and I format weird. Oh well, not much to say except pop an aspirin or ignore it completely. PS-won't be online for awhile, but I appreciate those who responded. Enjoy the holiday. MBPL
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Postby Michigan Girl » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:21 am

stevew2 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Fuck it, im starting my own dictionary, fuckers


I thought you already had
SWebters2.....and I like it!!! :wink:
Ill send you the first copy, COD of course lol we can work something out [if ya know what i mean]


awww, I have no COD!!! How about some Bass, or White Perch? :wink:
Some bASS and a bottle of wine will work lol


I am laughing my bASS off!!! :wink:
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Postby peridactyl » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:26 am

madsplash wrote:Wow, I didn't mean to aggrivate anyone on my first post! :lol: I'm really sorry. The info that I have was told to my sister by her friend of 20+ years, who worked as a sound engineer in 2 studios in the San Fernando Valley. He said that he was told by 2 producers that they have been working with SP on new material in his home studio and in another local studio. He was also told by one of the producers that SP had work done on his voice and sounded better than he had in 25 years.

I'm just an SP/Journey fan like everyone else here who happens to be related to someone who has a friend in the industry. I trust it to be reliable, but until something happens, we won't know for sure.

I promise that I won't post anything else that I'm told unless I know it to be complete fact. I didn't meant to make anyone think that I was trying to give hints and not say more. What I said is the extent of what I know.

Again, sorry to any that I offended, I won't do it again. This is, by far, the most educated and enjoyable Journey forum around and I'm happy to be here.



Madsplash---

Don't censor yourself! You just have to have a thick skin on this Board!! Say whatever you want to....


I appreciate your answering my question re: the source of the info about Steve's chords. Sounds encouraging to me, and new too. Lots of stuff has been posted about SP writing with this guy and that, but nothing about work done on his voice. I always thought he would avoid medical intervention being the perfectionist and maybe hypochondriac (or at least, risk-avoidant guy) his history suggests he is.

But the possibility is definitely EXCITING!!!

Maybe the 2005 White Sox experience really triggered something? He did say he may get his life back together again emotionally, and maybe sing again......

You know what? It doesn't matter whether or not I get it.
What matters is that there are a lot of reports of people in the business who are all saying the same thing--Steve is moving in the direction of making music again. Good enough for me!!

Thanks for the "rumor." And I for one would love any inside scoop you get....

:)
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Re: Steve's Voice

Postby peridactyl » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:39 am



Perry is coy about his comeback, silly, I hate being dangled on a thread, but maybe he is coy because he is and always will be an artist and artists can be tormented. The good news is artists will forever create because they have to, it is an emotional necessity as far as I am concerned. Then again, maybe Perry left a legacy that he probably feels he cannot live up to as he is getting older. He is probably a perfectionist who seeks perfection where there isn’t any. I expect Perry wants to come back, but does not feel he may appease his fans. Just my thoughts. But, Perry CAN sing, he is talented and he is an artist, that much we all know. And if Perry does return to singing, and he should hurry as we none of us are getting any younger, great I will purchase his cd.


Agree with you totally.

thanks for an intelligent post.
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Postby peridactyl » Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:48 am

Liquid_Drummer wrote:With you there on "Don't Be Down On Me Baby". Fucking awesome performance and my favorite on the cd. I have heard a lot of people dont like that one... Hmm.. The title track is a great song as well. I find that cd very refreshing because there are songs that ARE NOT ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS.

I get a bit tired of the Girl I miss you or our love is ____ and find it nice to hear lyrics like.

Treasures in the jars of clay
Let the light shine out of darkness
Fallen down but not destroyed
It's just another trial by fire.

Not typical Journey lyrics.. I always wanted to see them step "Outside the box" a little more than they did in Journey. Dream after dream is a step in that direction but not enough vocals :(.

I am hoping that some material from Perry's early band Pieces gets released... Sounds very interesting from the 25 or so seconds that are out there on the web.. Jazzy and perhaps more progressive... Really want to hear that stuff.



YES. Incredible range and versatility in Perry's music over the years.
Can't think of too many other 70's-80's rockers who kept evolving and experimenting with his voice and style. The music is Timeless.

But as the Pieces clips and early Alien Project demos show, the BEST ROCK Steve Perry did was with Neal Schon's hot guitar---absolutely the Best. Great creative collaboration.
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Postby StoneCold » Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:57 am

Here's what MBPL wrote with more paragraphs for those that want to attempt it again.

MPBL wrote:


All right, now, be warned, there is just a bit of rambling babble coming ahead. I recently found this website and unlike other forums that I have looked at you people seem a bit more vocal and less neurotic about what you say.

First, I don`t think there is anything wrong with a man liking Steve Perry`s voice. I am a fair-weather Journey fan, although, I saw a Journey concert back in the 80’s even took pictures, but I was not obsessed with them. Did not buy albums or t-shirts, I was a Jackson Five kind of gal. Matter of fact, it wasn’t until recently that I even knew all the Journey men’s names.

I am going through personal pain, who isn’t these days, so I listened to Journey, their music is healing to me, and for a moment I felt better. When I needed Journey and Steve Perry after not having heard them in years they were there for me. I am also a bit of an artist, so while I listened to Journey I wrote my feelings down.

In between writing I looked up Journey and Steve Perry online, did a bit of research, but unfortunately what I found on their part was bitterness, resentment, countless articles and hate-fuelled mentions especially about Perry, how sad. I had no idea those men ended on such a sour note. I was annoyed after watching the VH1 Behind the Music special on Journey back in 2001 now that I think about it. Of course the video was edited, nonetheless it made me sad and resentful that Journey ended so poorly and left their fans to deal with it.

I was especially upset that Perry dropped off the face of the earth leaving his fans hanging while his ex-comrades continued on, “the hell with him,” was my motto. Then I realized Journey weren`t just artists they are human beings. So, I came up with my own way to help cope with the loss of the five men whose music I enjoy.

First I wrote a book about Journey and the elusive Perry. Then I made You Tube videos to go along with it. Silliness, but whatever. Then I thought about a couple of things regarding Journey and Steve Perry that helped me not personalize their breakup. Keep in mind, writing one`s feelings and thoughts is not interpreted the same as what you read on paper or computer screen. Try not to over-analyzed what you see before you. Here we go..


1. A marriage of equals can lead to emotional bankruptcy; I said this somewhere else online. And all the men involved with Journey were equally talented, ambitious and believed in themselves. While I hate that these like-minded artists may resent each other, or whatever the hell is wrong with them, I accept that they parted; after all I was not involved in their “marriage” I was just a fan who listened to their great music. I am sure one day before they are too old or dead they will be friends again, if they aren’t already.

2. If Perry retired, good for him. He had his fun and left a great voice to listen for years to come. Why he walked away does not matter, there is no point in wondering why if he does not want people to know why. If Perry is trying to make a comeback, fine, perhaps he will be good enough to tell the world. Right now, I see Perry as an older man living life like anyone else. Don`t need to see him, don`t care to get his autograph or photo because his vibe and how he lives his life is exactly what he gives off, private. So, I leave him to his privacy.

3. I believe Neal Schon never approached the level of success he wanted, meaning, he is not quite a one-name wonder like Clapton; Santana and Escovedo. I think therein lies a bit of resentment on his part towards Perry which might have to do with some of the bitterness if he is in fact resentful. Can happen, artists are human. Besides, everyone knows the lead singer tends to get the attention and feelings can get hurt. I was so mesmerized by Mike Jackson`s talents it took me years to notice his brothers were on stage with him!

4. Perry is coy about his comeback, silly, I hate being dangled on a thread, but maybe he is coy because he is and always will be an artist and artists can be tormented. The good news is artists will forever create because they have to, it is an emotional necessity as far as I am concerned. Then again, maybe Perry left a legacy that he probably feels he cannot live up to as he is getting older. He is probably a perfectionist who seeks perfection where there isn’t any.

I expect Perry wants to come back, but does not feel he may appease his fans. Just my thoughts. But, Perry CAN sing, he is talented and he is an artist, that much we all know. And if Perry does return to singing, and he should hurry as we none of us are getting any younger, great I will purchase his cd.


You all still there? Well, I guess everyone has an opinion, that is what these forums are for. Thanks for listening to my babbling mess. For whatever reason( s) Journey no longer exists in the five men I once knew, Cain; Schon; Smith; Perry and Valory, I am happy to have cds, dvds and YOUTUBE. I LOVE that Houston DVD.

I know there are people out there who appreciate the quality of Journey and Perry’s music as much as I do and who are convicted and emotional enough to speak online from time to time. Nothing wrong with that. Back in the day when I was into Journey no one I knew appreciated them, I felt like such an outsider.

Now, wow, I had I had no idea there were so many fans! And, since Perry has not sung in so long I was amazed he had fans or forums! I can write a hundred books and do a thousand foolish videos trying to jokingly “heal” him and his ex-comrades, but it is only a bit of fun on my part, nothing more. I am a fan, albeit fair-weather, but those five men are helping me heal and that is all that matters to me right now. (my mom is dying, nothing new to most of us, I am sure).

BTW – I won’t be able to offer my Journey/Steve Perry book to the public because I have taken certain liberties with fan blogs and excerpts that I have not cleared. But, if you are in need of a wicked foolish tickle, and good-hearted, smart-ass humor you can hear excerpts on my You Tube channel.

Actually, I did send drafts to a Bay Area fan club per a friend’s advice, but did not want to because those people are not agents or managers for Journey and Perry, they did not need to be made privy. But, I sent it anyway with handmade gifts and a cover letter and suffice it to say I never got a “thanks, or “what the hell...” No stress on my part.

But, I am getting positive YOUTUBE feedback from fans which is very kind. So check if you would like. Until then, all the best, you people have good taste in music. MBPL (Mocha Bus Pass Lady – also my You Tube channel name)
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Postby StoneCold » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:13 pm

SusieP wrote:If you can't be arsed to read MBPL's post.......try these........

Ep 1 part 1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NrSOUYxOm ... re=related

ep 1 part 2
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw9CRC7Au ... re=related

This is a Hell of a publicity stunt for a book. :shock:

WIX, you got competition! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


That's what I was thinkin'.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:44 am

StoneCold wrote:
SusieP wrote:If you can't be arsed to read MBPL's post.......try these........

Ep 1 part 1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NrSOUYxOm ... re=related

ep 1 part 2
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw9CRC7Au ... re=related

This is a Hell of a publicity stunt for a book. :shock:

WIX, you got competition! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


That's what I was thinkin'.


LMAO!!! Mocha Bus Pass Lady you are a hoot!!! :wink:
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Postby Tomulator » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:15 am

Well...I wasn't going to "chime in" on this as the "inside" information I have is pretty amazing...but, here goes!

I have it on good authority that the "HH" that Perry is collaborating with on a new recording is...Helen Hunt.

:lol: :lol:

:shock:
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Postby SusieP » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:24 am

Tomulator wrote:Well...I wasn't going to "chime in" on this as the "inside" information I have is pretty amazing...but, here goes!

I have it on good authority that the "HH" that Perry is collaborating with on a new recording is...Helen Hunt.

:lol: :lol:

:shock:



I heard it was Horace Horsecollar. :lol:
I know Steve is an animal lover, but I don't believe this rumour. I don't think Horace is a very good singer. :lol:
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Postby SusieP » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:24 am

StoneCold wrote:
SusieP wrote:If you can't be arsed to read MBPL's post.......try these........

Ep 1 part 1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NrSOUYxOm ... re=related

ep 1 part 2
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw9CRC7Au ... re=related

This is a Hell of a publicity stunt for a book. :shock:

WIX, you got competition! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


That's what I was thinkin'.



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Postby TRAGChick » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:34 am

StoneCold wrote:Here's what MBPL wrote with more paragraphs for those that want to attempt it again.


THANK YOU StoneCold!! :D

...and thank YOU, MBPL.....That was a very well-thought, well-written intro post!

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Postby tammy » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:19 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
SusieP wrote:If you can't be arsed to read MBPL's post.......try these........

Ep 1 part 1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NrSOUYxOm ... re=related

ep 1 part 2
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw9CRC7Au ... re=related

This is a Hell of a publicity stunt for a book. :shock:

WIX, you got competition! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


That's what I was thinkin'.


LMAO!!! Mocha Bus Pass Lady you are a hoot!!! :wink:


OMG! That was funny stuff...."the cats ate the fruit" - "chicken bone in the ear" :lol: MBPL, humor is healing, too. :) I dig your costume...I have some fake fruit - my kiddo doesn't want me to make her into Carmen Miranda for Halloween after all - darnit.
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Postby StoneCold » Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:24 am

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3. I believe Neal Schon never approached the level of success he wanted, meaning, he is not quite a one-name wonder like Clapton; Santana and Escovedo. I think therein lies a bit of resentment on his part towards Perry which might have to do with some of the bitterness if he is in fact resentful. Can happen, artists are human. Besides, everyone knows the lead singer tends to get the attention and feelings can get hurt. I was so mesmerized by Mike Jackson`s talents it took me years to notice his brothers were on stage with him!


This is an interesting idea which I saw alluded to in another thread. That Schon has never become the one-name wonder. I think its true and one of Neal's secret or not so secret desire. I believe that's the legacy he wants to be remembered for but is trapped behind the band or Perry's fame.

Jimi, Stevie Ray, Clapton, Santana, Page

Really it deserves a thread of its own but this will suffice. Stevie Ray and Jimi could've easily been lost behind a band if they hadn't been in a 3 piece that focused on them.

Journey's more than a stand out guitarist and vocalist so I really don't think Neal will ever be able to break away from it.
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Postby StoneCold » Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:12 am

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StoneCold wrote:Here's what MBPL wrote with more paragraphs for those that want to attempt it again.


THANK YOU StoneCold!! :D

...and thank YOU, MBPL.....That was a very well-thought, well-written intro post!

Welcome aboard!
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You're welcome Miss "I helped Journey find their new lead singer and have a hit record and tour" TragChick.

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Re: Steve's Voice

Postby peridactyl » Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:23 am

MBPL wrote:
madsplash wrote:Long time lurker, first post. Be gentle :lol:
I'm a male "loon". Nothing sexual(I'm married, with child), I just am completely awestruck and inspired by the man's gift and legacy.

That being said, I know I'm in the minority, but I PREFER Steve's voice from Frontiers and after. To me, it gained texture and emotion. I've been listening to TBF recently and think that "Don't Be Down On Me Baby" is my favorite ballad performance of his.

I've also read about some of the reviews fron the FTLOSM tour. When I saw him in Pittsburgh, his voice was great. Some of the songs were lowered a half-step, and most were not.

Anyway, I'm happy to be posting on this forum with so many fans that love Journey and Steve as much as I do. As for the whole new version of the band, obviously I prefer the band with Steve, but since we'll never see that again(or will we?), I'm just glad that they continue on with Arnel. Those songs are so great, they deserve to be heard live by new generations, as well as ours.

When the reunion happened in 96, I was thrilled. The huge album debut, then the let down when the tour never happened was horrible. We all have our opinions as to what happened, but if Steve needed time to have his hip fixed, I can't imagine why the others couldn't have waited for him. They had just waited 9 years, what's another one? Who knows? Maybe the people who say that Steve knew he couldn't tour those songs are right.

Thanks for letting me have my long-winded post and I look forward to continuing to read and post on this great place!

P.S. The new album is going to happen. Not if, but when. I know a couple people who say that Steve did indeed have work done on his chords and that he sounds as good as the Frontiers era. I guess we'll see!



All right, now, be warned, there is just a bit of rambling babble coming ahead. I recently found this website and unlike other forums that I have looked at you people seem a bit more vocal and less neurotic about what you say. First, I don`t think there is anything wrong with a man liking Steve Perry`s voice. I am a fair-weather Journey fan, although, I saw a Journey concert back in the 80’s even took pictures, but I was not obsessed with them. Did not buy albums or t-shirts, I was a Jackson Five kind of gal. Matter of fact, it wasn’t until recently that I even knew all the Journey men’s names. I am going through personal pain, who isn’t these days, so I listened to Journey, their music is healing to me, and for a moment I felt better. When I needed Journey and Steve Perry after not having heard them in years they were there for me. I am also a bit of an artist, so while I listened to Journey I wrote my feelings down. In between writing I looked up Journey and Steve Perry online, did a bit of research, but unfortunately what I found on their part was bitterness, resentment, countless articles and hate-fuelled mentions especially about Perry, how sad. I had no idea those men ended on such a sour note. I was annoyed after watching the VH1 Behind the Music special on Journey back in 2001 now that I think about it. Of course the video was edited, nonetheless it made me sad and resentful that Journey ended so poorly and left their fans to deal with it. I was especially upset that Perry dropped off the face of the earth leaving his fans hanging while his ex-comrades continued on, “the hell with him,” was my motto. Then I realized Journey weren`t just artists they are human beings. So, I came up with my own way to help cope with the loss of the five men whose music I enjoy. First I wrote a book about Journey and the elusive Perry. Then I made You Tube videos to go along with it. Silliness, but whatever. Then I thought about a couple of things regarding Journey and Steve Perry that helped me not personalize their breakup. Keep in mind, writing one`s feelings and thoughts is not interpreted the same as what you read on paper or computer screen. Try not to over-analyzed what you see before you. Here we go...
1. A marriage of equals can lead to emotional bankruptcy; I said this somewhere else online. And all the men involved with Journey were equally talented, ambitious and believed in themselves. While I hate that these like-minded artists may resent each other, or whatever the hell is wrong with them, I accept that they parted; after all I was not involved in their “marriage” I was just a fan who listened to their great music. I am sure one day before they are too old or dead they will be friends again, if they aren’t already.
2. If Perry retired, good for him. He had his fun and left a great voice to listen for years to come. Why he walked away does not matter, there is no point in wondering why if he does not want people to know why. If Perry is trying to make a comeback, fine, perhaps he will be good enough to tell the world. Right now, I see Perry as an older man living life like anyone else. Don`t need to see him, don`t care to get his autograph or photo because his vibe and how he lives his life is exactly what he gives off, private. So, I leave him to his privacy.
3. I believe Neal Schon never approached the level of success he wanted, meaning, he is not quite a one-name wonder like Clapton; Santana and Escovedo. I think therein lies a bit of resentment on his part towards Perry which might have to do with some of the bitterness if he is in fact resentful. Can happen, artists are human. Besides, everyone knows the lead singer tends to get the attention and feelings can get hurt. I was so mesmerized by Mike Jackson`s talents it took me years to notice his brothers were on stage with him!
4. Perry is coy about his comeback, silly, I hate being dangled on a thread, but maybe he is coy because he is and always will be an artist and artists can be tormented. The good news is artists will forever create because they have to, it is an emotional necessity as far as I am concerned. Then again, maybe Perry left a legacy that he probably feels he cannot live up to as he is getting older. He is probably a perfectionist who seeks perfection where there isn’t any. I expect Perry wants to come back, but does not feel he may appease his fans. Just my thoughts. But, Perry CAN sing, he is talented and he is an artist, that much we all know. And if Perry does return to singing, and he should hurry as we none of us are getting any younger, great I will purchase his cd.
You all still there? Well, I guess everyone has an opinion, that is what these forums are for. Thanks for listening to my babbling mess. For whatever reason( s) Journey no longer exists in the five men I once knew, Cain; Schon; Smith; Perry and Valory, I am happy to have cds, dvds and YOUTUBE. I LOVE that Houston DVD. I know there are people out there who appreciate the quality of Journey and Perry’s music as much as I do and who are convicted and emotional enough to speak online from time to time. Nothing wrong with that. Back in the day when I was into Journey no one I knew appreciated them, I felt like such an outsider. Now, wow, I had I had no idea there were so many fans! And, since Perry has not sung in so long I was amazed he had fans or forums! I can write a hundred books and do a thousand foolish videos trying to jokingly “heal” him and his ex-comrades, but it is only a bit of fun on my part, nothing more. I am a fan, albeit fair-weather, but those five men are helping me heal and that is all that matters to me right now. (my mom is dying, nothing new to most of us, I am sure). BTW – I won’t be able to offer my Journey/Steve Perry book to the public because I have taken certain liberties with fan blogs and excerpts that I have not cleared. But, if you are in need of a wicked foolish tickle, and good-hearted, smart-ass humor you can hear excerpts on my You Tube channel. Actually, I did send drafts to a Bay Area fan club per a friend’s advice, but did not want to because those people are not agents or managers for Journey and Perry, they did not need to be made privy. But, I sent it anyway with handmade gifts and a cover letter and suffice it to say I never got a “thanks, or “what the hell...” No stress on my part. But, I am getting positive YOUTUBE feedback from fans which is very kind. So check if you would like. Until then, all the best, you people have good taste in music. MBPL (Mocha Bus Pass Lady – also my You Tube channel name)


MBPL:

I just checked out your Youtube videos about Steve Perry!
You are HILARIOUS!

Everyone--
You HAVE to catch these videos. This is a really talented woman!!
Very funny!!
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Postby StoneCold » Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:28 am

Definitely some good acting chops. Too bad it didn't happen for you MBPL, I see worse on TV all the time.

Example: all the so called "cute" wives of loser husband sitcoms. They're the worst.
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Postby TRAGChick » Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:53 am

StoneCold wrote:
TRAGChick wrote:
StoneCold wrote:Here's what MBPL wrote with more paragraphs for those that want to attempt it again.


THANK YOU StoneCold!! :D

...and thank YOU, MBPL.....That was a very well-thought, well-written intro post!

Welcome aboard!
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You're welcome Miss "I helped Journey find their new lead singer and have a hit record and tour" TragChick.


Yup.....irony of ironies, ain't it....? :shock:

Good to see you.


Thanx, man....good to see you, too! :D \~/
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Postby Ftloperry » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:29 pm

Maybe the HH is Horacio Hornblower. :D :lol: 8)
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Postby tammy » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:37 am

StoneCold wrote:Definitely some good acting chops. Too bad it didn't happen for you MBPL, I see worse on TV all the time.

Example: all the so called "cute" wives of loser husband sitcoms. They're the worst.


It must've started with "The Honeymooners" - "pow!...to the moon, Alice".
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Postby StoneCold » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:31 pm

tammy wrote:
StoneCold wrote:Definitely some good acting chops. Too bad it didn't happen for you MBPL, I see worse on TV all the time.

Example: all the so called "cute" wives of loser husband sitcoms. They're the worst.


It must've started with "The Honeymooners" - "pow!...to the moon, Alice".


Good call. That one though was entertaining.

Only sitcoms I watch now are 2 1/2 men (once in a great while) Chuck(campy fun) & The Office (which is awesome)
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