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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:01 am

Is suprisingly fantastic. Better, There was a time, and especially Street of dream are some incredible songs. Actually pretty much the whole album is amazing.

Considering its taking so long, I assumed It would not live up expectations, but for me personally it is well above anything I thought it would be.
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Postby kbo » Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:29 am

2.5 of 5 stars...

It's quite clear to me now why Slash and the others didn't want to follow Axl Rose..
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:36 am

Is it classic Guns n Roses? Of course not. But I only liked their Greatest Hits anyways.

7 of the tracks are fantastic, with some of them incredible. 2-3 skip tracks but not that bad, and the others are good.

4.5/5 stars for me, and I was not expecting to like this album at all.

I guess I like it so much because theres not to much thrashy sounding GnR that I didnt like.

Hardcorse fans of the classic band I doubt would like it too much.

I also think its Axls strongest vocals that i've ever heard. Probably alot of pro tools though
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Postby Arkansas » Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:40 am

Wasn't this album made like 11 yrs ago?
Can Axl Rose still sing it today?


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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:44 am

The only way I'm gonna even hear this album is if someone comes up and puts it in my hands to listen to. I'm not interested in it at all, especially after hearing Shackler's Revenge on Rock Band. Not really a huge GnR fan past the couple of hits they had anyway. Slash rules though.
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Postby finalfight » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:08 am

kbo wrote:2.5 of 5 stars...

It's quite clear to me now why Slash and the others didn't want to follow Axl Rose..


At least Axl still has a record label.

Chinese Democracy scores a definite 7 out of 10 for me. I'll be buying it as soon as it hits the shelves.
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Postby DrFU » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:24 am

At least everyone in the US who wants one really will get a free Dr. Pepper out of the deal:

http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/41220
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Postby Rhiannon » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:31 am

DrFU wrote:At least everyone in the US who wants one really will get a free Dr. Pepper out of the deal:

http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/41220


And that is what really matters here. :D

Wonder what company would sponsor a "freebie" day for "if" Perry releases a new album? Swarovski? :lol:
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Postby S2M » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:42 am

Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:At least everyone in the US who wants one really will get a free Dr. Pepper out of the deal:

http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/41220


And that is what really matters here. :D

Wonder what company would sponsor a "freebie" day for "if" Perry releases a new album? Swarovski? :lol:



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Postby WalrusOct9 » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:51 am

It's very, very good.

It's NOT the original Gn'R, but even listening to the Illusions, you can tell Axl had bigger visions for his band than Slash or Izzy would've ever done. I love the original band, but it's obvious they were splitting in two directions...Slash wanted to keep Guns a tight, raw Aerosmith-esque hard rock band, and Axl wanted to do something bigger in the style of Queen or Elton John.

I wish this album had come out years ago when it was supposed to, so Axl could've gotten this out of his system and maybe made new music with Slash & Izzy while he's still young enough to pull it off, but for what it is, it's a great rock record, unlike any album I've ever heard, if nothing else.
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:57 am

Hear is the link for all of the songs.

http://uk.myspace.com/gunsnroses

I dont like Chinease Democracy or Shacklers revenge.. thats the type of GnR I hate.

The rest though.. wow
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Postby Just_Plain_Eric » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:00 am

Streamed it on Myspace....kept waiting for the song that would hook me (big fan of Appetite)...never happened...

:Disappointed:

Now we have the lame GNR and the lame Velvet Revolver..oh boy!

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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:16 am

Just_Plain_Eric wrote:Streamed it on Myspace....kept waiting for the song that would hook me (big fan of Appetite)...never happened...

:Disappointed:

Now we have the lame GNR and the lame Velvet Revolver..oh boy!

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Not even the second to last song, the ballad? street of dreams? Prostitute? Better?

Amazing, so many catchy songs.
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Postby Babyblue » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:34 am

Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:At least everyone in the US who wants one really will get a free Dr. Pepper out of the deal:

http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/41220


And that is what really matters here. :D

Wonder what company would sponsor a "freebie" day for "if" Perry releases a new album? Swarovski? :lol:


I like the way you think. :wink: :wink: :D
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Postby Rhiannon » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:38 am

Babyblue wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:Wonder what company would sponsor a "freebie" day for "if" Perry releases a new album? Swarovski? :lol:


I like the way you think. :wink: :wink: :D


Thankee. 8)
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Postby lights1961 » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:41 am

yawn.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:45 am

Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:At least everyone in the US who wants one really will get a free Dr. Pepper out of the deal:

http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/41220


And that is what really matters here. :D

Wonder what company would sponsor a "freebie" day for "if" Perry releases a new album? Swarovski? :lol:


Garnier? :twisted:
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Postby AlteredDNA » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:48 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:At least everyone in the US who wants one really will get a free Dr. Pepper out of the deal:

http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/41220


And that is what really matters here. :D

Wonder what company would sponsor a "freebie" day for "if" Perry releases a new album? Swarovski? :lol:


Garnier? :twisted:


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Postby S2M » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:50 am

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Postby Arianddu » Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:58 am

Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:At least everyone in the US who wants one really will get a free Dr. Pepper out of the deal:

http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/41220


And that is what really matters here. :D

Wonder what company would sponsor a "freebie" day for "if" Perry releases a new album? Swarovski? :lol:


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Postby Don » Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:00 pm

Rhiannon wrote:
DrFU wrote:At least everyone in the US who wants one really will get a free Dr. Pepper out of the deal:

http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/41220


And that is what really matters here. :D

Wonder what company would sponsor a "freebie" day for "if" Perry releases a new album? Swarovski? :lol:


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Postby DrFU » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:35 am

Axl Rose Is Back: No Guns, No Glory

By Allison Stewart
Special to The Washington Post
Saturday, November 22, 2008; Page C01

At this point you've probably already listened to, and made up your mind about, "Chinese Democracy," the maledicted multimillion-dollar Axl Rose entitlement program on sale tomorrow at a Best Buy near you and currently available for streaming on Guns N' Roses's MySpace page.

If you haven't, this is what it sounds like: a compound of "Use Your Illusion"-era GN'R, souped up with every conceivable and occasionally dated bit of available studio alchemy and mated with widescreen ballads that suggest early '00s versions of "November Rain," except longer and puffier.

"Chinese Democracy" isn't a masterpiece -- it's more curious than actually great -- but it's never dull, encompassing everything from classic rock to prog rock to actual rock, with nods to "Phantom of the Opera," hip-hop, industrial, Putumayo's world-music compilations and countless other things that should never, ever go together.

In both sound and sentiment it feels hermetically sealed, like it was made by someone who doesn't get out much. Except for a passing reference to the Falun Gong, Rose gives little sign he realizes that life exists outside the "Chinese Democracy" bubble -- that since the release of the last original GN'R disc, five presidential elections, two wars and 9/11 have passed him by.

Although the album includes an atypical number of love songs among its 14 tracks, Rose spends much of "Chinese Democracy" singing about the protracted birth of "Chinese Democracy." This involves lots of railing against an unspecified "you," who has apparently spent the past 15 years attempting to bring Axl down, perhaps while brandishing six-figure bills for studio time. "Don't you try to stop us now/'Cause I just won't let you," he warns on "Scraped," one of the disc's few outright low points.

Everything about "Chinese Democracy" is aggrieved and inflated. It was made with a rotating cast of characters that includes seemingly everyone in Los Angeles except for the actual members of GN'R's classic lineup -- it's like a modern-day, heavy-metal WPA project. But the disc belongs to Rose, and to ProTools. It's been looped, overdubbed and spit-shined beyond what's healthy for a hard-rock album, and its numerous operatic piano ballads are larded with so many sonic extras they threaten to buckle under their own weight. Like Madonna, Rose has always been better at spotting and synthesizing trends than at creating them, but on "Democracy" he's a magpie rooting around in the Museum of '90s Rock Sounds, picking at shiny bits from Soundgarden, Korn and (especially) Nine Inch Nails.


The more times you listen to "Chinese Democracy," the better it sounds, with moments of genuine, back-on-your heels wonderment: The blustery, compact "Better" is as close to golden-era GN'R as "Democracy" gets; "Street of Dreams" is a solid, simple power ballad; the '70s-inspired, funk-meets-Middle Eastern . . . thing called "If the World" is at least uniquely bizarre.

But "Chinese Democracy" begins to eat itself sometime around "Madagascar," which Rose, in a departure from the ever-higher falsetto he uses throughout, sings in a bluesy quaver over what sounds like a string loop, before launching into simultaneous samples from "Cool Hand Luke" and the "I Have a Dream" speech -- which probably shouldn't have been the first stop in iconic speech sampling for someone infamous, as Rose is, for his use of a racial epithet. It's the disc's best evidence that "Chinese Democracy" would have benefited from a steady hand and some adult supervision.

DOWNLOAD THESE: "Better," "Street of Dreams," "Chinese Democracy"
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:02 am

"Better" was a great track.

"Shackler's Revenge" and "Chinese Democracy" were okay.

The rest was a clusterfuck.

3 out of 10 here.
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Postby WalrusOct9 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:54 am

That article is a pretty good summation, actually.

I still maintain it's unlike any record ever made, and given that no artist will ever be allowed to spend that much time and that much of someone else's money to make an LP, it's unlikely any record will ever sound like that again.
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Postby mikemarrs » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:57 am

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Postby Since 78 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:14 am

I think this is a great album, the only track I don't care for is Shacklers Revenge.
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Postby Angiekay » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:46 pm

I couldn't even get a free pop out of this! The link on Dr Pepper's site kept coming up service unavailable all day and when I DID get on and try to sign up, it told me my email was already taken...huh? I eventually gave up. :lol:







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