South Park fans

[Saint John]

I can't believe they got away with this. I guess because they're "in" with the big liberal circles it's ok.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlIE7mvsIsE

[bluejeangirl76]

Of course they got away with it... South Park gets away with everything.

But, to be fair, it looked like kind of an Archie Bunker moment... they used it to make the character look like a fool and point out that bigotry still exists... at least that's the way I took it. But I also didn't see the whole episode, so I might be incorrectly interpreting that out of context.

Its kind of interesting... watching that made it clear to me how we have been re-trained. In the 70s and early 80s, shows like All in the Family and the Jeffersons could use those words to make their points about racism, and today you would NEVER hear that and people get all bungled up about it if you do. As I was watching that youtube, when they had all the letters up but the one, I went and gasped audibly. Then I figured what the word was actually going to be and I realized, what am I so surprised for? Its the same kind of joke like on All in the Family, where he's going to look like a fool at the end of the scene.

[Saint John]

Great points, BJG. I just thought it warranted discussion because of the fact that they did apparently get away with it. I mean, had it been anyone else other those guys, or maybe Chappelle, (who are looked upon highly in the left-wing nutbag circles) you would have seen armageddon. Instead, you heard nothing. I thought it was funny...but I'm not black. I can't stand the show and don't watch it because of the leftist clowns that created the show, but someone forwarded it to me so I gave it a look. The black cameraman's expression is priceless.

[finalfight]

Of course they got away with it... South Park gets away with everything.

But, to be fair, it looked like kind of an Archie Bunker moment... they used it to make the character look like a fool and point out that bigotry still exists... at least that's the way I took it. But I also didn't see the whole episode, so I might be incorrectly interpreting that out of context.

Its kind of interesting... watching that made it clear to me how we have been re-trained. In the 70s and early 80s, shows like All in the Family and the Jeffersons could use those words to make their points about racism, and today you would NEVER hear that and people get all bungled up about it if you do. As I was watching that youtube, when they had all the letters up but the one, I went and gasped audibly. Then I figured what the word was actually going to be and I realized, what am I so surprised for? Its the same kind of joke like on All in the Family, where he's going to look like a fool at the end of the scene.

If I remember correctly following the 'incident' on TV Randy becomes widely known and hated as 'the n*gger guy'. He then forms some form of group to lobby against the use of the term 'n*gger guy' as it causes him offense. Not the first time South Park have heavy handedly played the race card (see the episode where Token wants to get more rich people to move to South Park as he is in a minority) and it is sure not to be the last but the message is there, somewhere...

The show is definitely hit and miss but when it finds it's target it is often hilarious.

[bluejeangirl76]

Well, it WAS funny. And anyone flipping their lid about something like that (which was clearly not meant to slam blacks) needs their priorities adjusted. If anything, its bigots who should be upset about it, because that's who it was making fun of.

[StevePerryHair]

I had an intersting experience this weekend. We went to see my son march in a "battle of the bands" marching band show. It was a "black" event and we didn't know until we got there. They had 10 inner city black marching bands, some local and some from other places outside of Florida and then 2 Florida black college rival marching bands perform. We were the only school with 60% white kids in the band. I don't know if anyone has ever seen black marching bands, but it is really fun. They dance while they play and it's very entertaining compared to traditional marching programs. The entire time I wondered what our band was going to do, because they don't dance Well their band came out playing the music by Outkast and they danced My son was doing hip hop moves See, our band director, who happens to be black, graduated from one of those colleges and he had them entered. The crowd seemed perplexed by our kids, and i heard a girl in front of us mention the fact that our band was mostly "white." So I don't think they expected any of it, and our kids did great and the crowd of 10,000 in the arena went nuts for them. But needless to say, we were the minorities in that building.

This is a lead up to something for me though. They had a comedian MC for the event. He mentioned not once, but at least 10 times how they got their "black" president. Even thanked Jesus at one point for finally answering their prayers, and even made a comment at one point that "I have a message for McCain and Palin, Our president is BLACK" They were selling Obama tshirts, and many were wearing them. One of the college bands was wearing Obama tshirts. One of the band spelled out "Obama" on the field as a formation. Now I have no problem with pride. I have said that here before, but at what point does it become Idolatry? At what point does this whole thing become more about skin color than what he will actually do for our country? I personally know a lot of white people who would have walked out of that event with the things they were saying. We got looks from people when we didnt' clap for every Obama comment made. I LOVED the marching bands. They turned it into a religious revival/black political rally in a lot of ways to me. I found it an interesting learning experience but it worries me the way they are all reacting to the new president. I think this is going to make racism worse, both ways. I mean I was uncomfortable being a white person there, with some of the jokes made and the things they said. I know for a fact by looks we got, that there is a lot of racism coming back from the other side too. And it's ignorant on both sides. I completely respect Obama as our future president. This stuff bothered me though.

[bluejeangirl76]

We got looks from people when we didnt' clap for every Obama comment made.

That AIN'T cool. I would have been uncomfortable too.
Its a double standard, unfortunately and its been that way for a long time.
Don't see it clearing up anytime soon either.

[StevePerryHair]

We got looks from people when we didnt' clap for every Obama comment made.

That AIN'T cool. I would have been uncomfortable too.
Its a double standard, unfortunately and its been that way for a long time.
Don't see it clearing up anytime soon either.

We clapped for the first Obama comment, because it was a round of applause for the 44th president elect obama, our first black president. And one girl turned around and then made fun of my clap to the girl next to her because I guess it wasn't a strong enough clap for her I guess. She judged me based on MY skin color that I would not have been happy to honor our next president and it ticked me off. But then that's what racism is, judging based on skin color. It exists in white and black people, and it's really too bad. There were some things I wouldn't clap for though, because I just felt they were inappropriate. And obviously there were some very nice people there too. Not every black person is a racist just like not every white person is. It was just an interesting experience though, and I learned a lot. It was awesome that 10,000 people would show up at a marching band event like that though. They were in town for the big rival football game here the next day, and this band thing is supported by that. There was a lot of pride there, you could tell.

[StevePerryHair]

I forgot to mention the MC opened the show by singing the Jefferson's theme "Movin on up" to honor Obama too, and the whole stadium was singing and laughing. To me that was fun though. I mean it is a pride thing, and I get it. It's just I can see where sometimes it does and will go to far and offend some people. And I can totally see more racial issues coming up from some of these things. Guess only time will tell.

[Saint John]

the 44th president elect obama, our first black president.

He's just as much white as he is black. He's bi-racial. I'm not correcting you, Lynn...just the hoards of race hustlers trying to make him something he simply isn't.

[bluejeangirl76]

the 44th president elect obama, our first black president.

He's just as much white as he is black. He's bi-racial. I'm not correcting you, Lynn...just the hoards of race hustlers trying to make him something he simply isn't.

He's being claimed because he achieved something great. If he'd murdered 18 people on a school bus with a grenade launcher, you would hear "he's NOT a black man... he's only got one black parent... that damn WHITE boy killed all those people!"

And I don't care how that sounds, its the truth. We live under so many double standards its not even funny.

[StevePerryHair]

the 44th president elect obama, our first black president.

He's just as much white as he is black. He's bi-racial. I'm not correcting you, Lynn...just the hoards of race hustlers trying to make him something he simply isn't.

No, I get that. But I'm telling you, they are making it about his skin color. And it is his skin color. They feel they are being represented now. It will be interesting to see what happens. If he can measure up the "hero" status being placed on him. And for the record, I am not anti-Obama.

[annpea]

I had an intersting experience this weekend. We went to see my son march in a "battle of the bands" marching band show. It was a "black" event and we didn't know until we got there. They had 10 inner city black marching bands, some local and some from other places outside of Florida and then 2 Florida black college rival marching bands perform. We were the only school with 60% white kids in the band. I don't know if anyone has ever seen black marching bands, but it is really fun. They dance while they play and it's very entertaining compared to traditional marching programs. The entire time I wondered what our band was going to do, because they don't dance Well their band came out playing the music by Outkast and they danced My son was doing hip hop moves See, our band director, who happens to be black, graduated from one of those colleges and he had them entered. The crowd seemed perplexed by our kids, and i heard a girl in front of us mention the fact that our band was mostly "white." So I don't think they expected any of it, and our kids did great and the crowd of 10,000 in the arena went nuts for them. But needless to say, we were the minorities in that building.

This is a lead up to something for me though. They had a comedian MC for the event. He mentioned not once, but at least 10 times how they got their "black" president. Even thanked Jesus at one point for finally answering their prayers, and even made a comment at one point that "I have a message for McCain and Palin, Our president is BLACK" They were selling Obama tshirts, and many were wearing them. One of the college bands was wearing Obama tshirts. One of the band spelled out "Obama" on the field as a formation. Now I have no problem with pride. I have said that here before, but at what point does it become Idolatry? At what point does this whole thing become more about skin color than what he will actually do for our country? I personally know a lot of white people who would have walked out of that event with the things they were saying. We got looks from people when we didnt' clap for every Obama comment made. I LOVED the marching bands. They turned it into a religious revival/black political rally in a lot of ways to me. I found it an interesting learning experience but it worries me the way they are all reacting to the new president. I think this is going to make racism worse, both ways. I mean I was uncomfortable being a white person there, with some of the jokes made and the things they said. I know for a fact by looks we got, that there is a lot of racism coming back from the other side too. And it's ignorant on both sides. I completely respect Obama as our future president. This stuff bothered me though.

You, only let it bother you because, you were uncomfortable within yourself about being in a situation where there was a majority of black people. I wouldn't call being proud of someone of the black race (even if he is only fifty percent) moving up in his career to the highest position in this country as idolatry apparently you have never had anything to overcome; You attended an event that was majority black you were welcomed and your children were not treated disrespectfully they were cheered and made to feel a part of something that they could have been shut completely out of. Then you say basically because black people were expressing pride in one of their own , you didn't even at times have the social fiber to at least give a cool polite little pat of the hand and you wonder why you were looked at. It wasn't racism that caused those looks. How would you feel if you were snubbed in your own home by someone you welcomed in with the thought that that person was there because they wanted to be and was just as happy being there as you were for having them there.

[Rick]

I had an intersting experience this weekend. We went to see my son march in a "battle of the bands" marching band show. It was a "black" event and we didn't know until we got there. They had 10 inner city black marching bands, some local and some from other places outside of Florida and then 2 Florida black college rival marching bands perform. We were the only school with 60% white kids in the band. I don't know if anyone has ever seen black marching bands, but it is really fun. They dance while they play and it's very entertaining compared to traditional marching programs. The entire time I wondered what our band was going to do, because they don't dance Well their band came out playing the music by Outkast and they danced My son was doing hip hop moves See, our band director, who happens to be black, graduated from one of those colleges and he had them entered. The crowd seemed perplexed by our kids, and i heard a girl in front of us mention the fact that our band was mostly "white." So I don't think they expected any of it, and our kids did great and the crowd of 10,000 in the arena went nuts for them. But needless to say, we were the minorities in that building.

This is a lead up to something for me though. They had a comedian MC for the event. He mentioned not once, but at least 10 times how they got their "black" president. Even thanked Jesus at one point for finally answering their prayers, and even made a comment at one point that "I have a message for McCain and Palin, Our president is BLACK" They were selling Obama tshirts, and many were wearing them. One of the college bands was wearing Obama tshirts. One of the band spelled out "Obama" on the field as a formation. Now I have no problem with pride. I have said that here before, but at what point does it become Idolatry? At what point does this whole thing become more about skin color than what he will actually do for our country? I personally know a lot of white people who would have walked out of that event with the things they were saying. We got looks from people when we didnt' clap for every Obama comment made. I LOVED the marching bands. They turned it into a religious revival/black political rally in a lot of ways to me. I found it an interesting learning experience but it worries me the way they are all reacting to the new president. I think this is going to make racism worse, both ways. I mean I was uncomfortable being a white person there, with some of the jokes made and the things they said. I know for a fact by looks we got, that there is a lot of racism coming back from the other side too. And it's ignorant on both sides. I completely respect Obama as our future president. This stuff bothered me though.

You, only let it bother you because, you were uncomfortable within yourself about being in a situation where there was a majority of black people. I wouldn't call being proud of someone of the black race (even if he is only fifty percent) moving up in his career to the highest position in this country as idolatry apparently you have never had anything to overcome; You attended an event that was majority black you were welcomed and your children were not treated disrespectfully they were cheered and made to feel a part of something that they could have been shut completely out of. Then you say basically because black people were expressing pride in one of their own , you didn't even at times have the social fiber to at least give a cool polite little pat of the hand and you wonder why you were looked at. It wasn't racism that caused those looks. How would you feel if you were snubbed in your own home by someone you welcomed in with the thought that that person was there because they wanted to be and was just as happy being there as you were for having them there.

Nobody can be shut out of any competition because of race.

[annpea]

the 44th president elect obama, our first black president.

He's just as much white as he is black. He's bi-racial. I'm not correcting you, Lynn...just the hoards of race hustlers trying to make him something he simply isn't.

He's being claimed because he achieved something great. If he'd murdered 18 people on a school bus with a grenade launcher, you would hear "he's NOT a black man... he's only got one black parent... that damn WHITE boy killed all those people!"

And I don't care how that sounds, its the truth. We live under so many double standards its not even funn

y.

I can't believe, you really think like that; you really think you know what a Black person think and feel that's really sad; you should really take the time to learn more about black people before making statments like that Obama will never be disowned by the black people, why because he is part of us, he will stand a greater chance of being disowned by the white people because he is bi-racial, remember we didn't start that 1/8 drop of blood crap.

[annpea]

I had an intersting experience this weekend. We went to see my son march in a "battle of the bands" marching band show. It was a "black" event and we didn't know until we got there. They had 10 inner city black marching bands, some local and some from other places outside of Florida and then 2 Florida black college rival marching bands perform. We were the only school with 60% white kids in the band. I don't know if anyone has ever seen black marching bands, but it is really fun. They dance while they play and it's very entertaining compared to traditional marching programs. The entire time I wondered what our band was going to do, because they don't dance Well their band came out playing the music by Outkast and they danced My son was doing hip hop moves See, our band director, who happens to be black, graduated from one of those colleges and he had them entered. The crowd seemed perplexed by our kids, and i heard a girl in front of us mention the fact that our band was mostly "white." So I don't think they expected any of it, and our kids did great and the crowd of 10,000 in the arena went nuts for them. But needless to say, we were the minorities in that building.

This is a lead up to something for me though. They had a comedian MC for the event. He mentioned not once, but at least 10 times how they got their "black" president. Even thanked Jesus at one point for finally answering their prayers, and even made a comment at one point that "I have a message for McCain and Palin, Our president is BLACK" They were selling Obama tshirts, and many were wearing them. One of the college bands was wearing Obama tshirts. One of the band spelled out "Obama" on the field as a formation. Now I have no problem with pride. I have said that here before, but at what point does it become Idolatry? At what point does this whole thing become more about skin color than what he will actually do for our country? I personally know a lot of white people who would have walked out of that event with the things they were saying. We got looks from people when we didnt' clap for every Obama comment made. I LOVED the marching bands. They turned it into a religious revival/black political rally in a lot of ways to me. I found it an interesting learning experience but it worries me the way they are all reacting to the new president. I think this is going to make racism worse, both ways. I mean I was uncomfortable being a white person there, with some of the jokes made and the things they said. I know for a fact by looks we got, that there is a lot of racism coming back from the other side too. And it's ignorant on both sides. I completely respect Obama as our future president. This stuff bothered me though.

You, only let it bother you because, you were uncomfortable within yourself about being in a situation where there was a majority of black people. I wouldn't call being proud of someone of the black race (even if he is only fifty percent) moving up in his career to the highest position in this country as idolatry apparently you have never had anything to overcome; You attended an event that was majority black you were welcomed and your children were not treated disrespectfully they were cheered and made to feel a part of something that they could have been shut completely out of. Then you say basically because black people were expressing pride in one of their own , you didn't even at times have the social fiber to at least give a cool polite little pat of the hand and you wonder why you were looked at. It wasn't racism that caused those looks. How would you feel if you were snubbed in your own home by someone you welcomed in with the thought that that person was there because they wanted to be and was just as happy being there as you were for having them there.

Nobody can be shut out of any competition because of race.

That's not what I meant; by shut out I mean they could have played every outkast song ever recorded, and could have done every hip hop move invented,and the people could have never uttered one cheer or clap to show them that they were welcomed and just as much a part of the program as any black person there was.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I can't stand the show and don't watch it because of the leftist clowns that created the show, but someone forwarded it to me so I gave it a look.

Uh-huh.
The show's creators, who skewer everyone from Al Gore to drowning Katrina Victims with even-handed disdain, are now so-called "leftists."
Right.
What was "Team America" if not a gigantic Fuck You to Michael Moore, Alec Baldwin, and the bleeding heart Hollywood establishment?

The South Park guys are renowned libertarians, and many Republicans have even begun to identify themselves as "South Park Republicans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican

[Jana]

I can't stand the show and don't watch it because of the leftist clowns that created the show, but someone forwarded it to me so I gave it a look.

Uh-huh.
The show's creators, who skewer everyone from Al Gore to drowning Katrina Victims with even-handed disdain, are now so-called "leftists."
Right.
What was "Team America" if not a gigantic Fuck You to Michael Moore, Alec Baldwin, and the bleeding heart Hollywood establishment?

The South Park guys are renowned libertarians, and many Republicans have even begun to identify themselves as "South Park Republicans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican

I watched it a few times. I don't really care for it, but a lot of my friends love this show and they are Republicans and wouldn't watch a show that came only from the left point of view comically. I agree with TNC, they're definitely equal opportunity.

[StevePerryHair]

You, only let it bother you because, you were uncomfortable within yourself about being in a situation where there was a majority of black people. I wouldn't call being proud of someone of the black race (even if he is only fifty percent) moving up in his career to the highest position in this country as idolatry apparently you have never had anything to overcome; You attended an event that was majority black you were welcomed and your children were not treated disrespectfully they were cheered and made to feel a part of something that they could have been shut completely out of. Then you say basically because black people were expressing pride in one of their own , you didn't even at times have the social fiber to at least give a cool polite little pat of the hand and you wonder why you were looked at. It wasn't racism that caused those looks. How would you feel if you were snubbed in your own home by someone you welcomed in with the thought that that person was there because they wanted to be and was just as happy being there as you were for having them there.

I don't know who you think you are, but you do not know me and you have no idea what I felt inside so don't speak for me or judge me. I was saying the way they are EXPRESSING their pride feels like Idolatry. It just seems weird to have pictures of a president and his family all over tshirts. That is the sense that I meant it in. Do NOT put words in my mouth. I was not uncomfortable within myself. That is BS. The ONLY moments I felt uncomfortable was when the MC said inappropriate and things that I felt were making fun of white people. And when a few people around us made us feel uncomfortable by things I heard them say and the way they looked at me when I clapped for Obama,and how she imitated me. That was ONE ignorant person who did that. I did not blame 10,ooo people for one stupid persons reaction. She made other comments too that made it clear that she wasn't too happy with white people. I did NOT imagine it. And I DID CLAP FOR HIM!!!!! You have no idea what you are talking about and obviuosly you did not read everything or you are not understanding what I am saying. It was INAPPROPRIATE things said that I would not clap for. Don't TELL me a black person can not be racist against a white person. I have experienced it on more than one occassion. The MAJORITY of the people there that night were wonderful, and I even said that. There were a few who were not. How would you know if I was welcomed or not? You weren't even there.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I watched it a few times. I don't really care for it, but a lot of my friends love this show and they are Republicans and wouldn't watch a show that came only from the left point of view comically. I agree with TNC, they're definitely equal opportunity.

The reason liberals give Trey and Matt a pass is, unlike Dennis Miller and Glenn Beck, these guys are actually funny.
Some right wingers took their sitcom of the Bush presidency, "That's My Bush", as an opening salvo, but Trey and Matt had written scripts about both Gore AND Bush.
The one that went to air depended on who came out of 2000 the winner.

[Jeremey]

I watched it a few times. I don't really care for it, but a lot of my friends love this show and they are Republicans and wouldn't watch a show that came only from the left point of view comically. I agree with TNC, they're definitely equal opportunity.

The reason liberals give Trey and Matt a pass is, unlike Dennis Miller and Glenn Beck, these guys are actually funny.
Some right wingers took their sitcom of the Bush presidency, "That's My Bush", as an opening salvo, but Trey and Matt had written scripts about both Gore AND Bush.
The one that went to air depended on who came out of 2000 the winner.

I think Trey and Matt are geniuses. I think this may be the only show in history that does not end up jumping the shark.

[Saint John]

I can't stand the show and don't watch it because of the leftist clowns that created the show, but someone forwarded it to me so I gave it a look.

Uh-huh.
The show's creators, who skewer everyone from Al Gore to drowning Katrina Victims with even-handed disdain, are now so-called "leftists."
Right.
What was "Team America" if not a gigantic Fuck You to Michael Moore, Alec Baldwin, and the bleeding heart Hollywood establishment?

The South Park guys are renowned libertarians, and many Republicans have even begun to identify themselves as "South Park Republicans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican

If that's the case then I stand corrected. Maybe I was thinking of the Family Guy writers?

[Jeremey]

I can't stand the show and don't watch it because of the leftist clowns that created the show, but someone forwarded it to me so I gave it a look.

Uh-huh.
The show's creators, who skewer everyone from Al Gore to drowning Katrina Victims with even-handed disdain, are now so-called "leftists."
Right.
What was "Team America" if not a gigantic Fuck You to Michael Moore, Alec Baldwin, and the bleeding heart Hollywood establishment?

The South Park guys are renowned libertarians, and many Republicans have even begun to identify themselves as "South Park Republicans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican

If that's the case then I stand corrected. Maybe I was thinking of the Family Guy writers?

Ohhh....Seth McFarland is left of Alec Baldwin...

[The_Noble_Cause]

I think Trey and Matt are geniuses. I think this may be the only show in history that does not end up jumping the shark.

Agreed.
When they're firing on all cyliniders they are the Rod Serling of toilet humor.
Even when its forced, gotta give 'em points for subtext.

[S2M]

I can't stand the show and don't watch it because of the leftist clowns that created the show, but someone forwarded it to me so I gave it a look.

Uh-huh.
The show's creators, who skewer everyone from Al Gore to drowning Katrina Victims with even-handed disdain, are now so-called "leftists."
Right.
What was "Team America" if not a gigantic Fuck You to Michael Moore, Alec Baldwin, and the bleeding heart Hollywood establishment?

The South Park guys are renowned libertarians, and many Republicans have even begun to identify themselves as "South Park Republicans."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican

If that's the case then I stand corrected. Maybe I was thinking of the Family Guy writers?

Ohhh....Seth McFarland is left of Alec Baldwin...

Now SETH is a genius.....I'm looking at a list: 1) Norman Lear, 2) Seth McFarlane 3) Seinfeld/that other dude who wrote that show..who has his own show.....

[annpea]

You, only let it bother you because, you were uncomfortable within yourself about being in a situation where there was a majority of black people. I wouldn't call being proud of someone of the black race (even if he is only fifty percent) moving up in his career to the highest position in this country as idolatry apparently you have never had anything to overcome; You attended an event that was majority black you were welcomed and your children were not treated disrespectfully they were cheered and made to feel a part of something that they could have been shut completely out of. Then you say basically because black people were expressing pride in one of their own , you didn't even at times have the social fiber to at least give a cool polite little pat of the hand and you wonder why you were looked at. It wasn't racism that caused those looks. How would you feel if you were snubbed in your own home by someone you welcomed in with the thought that that person was there because they wanted to be and was just as happy being there as you were for having them there.

I

don't know who you think you are, but you do not know me and you have no idea what I felt inside so don't speak for me or judge me. I was saying the way they are EXPRESSING their pride feels like Idolatry. It just seems weird to have pictures of a president and his family all over tshirts. That is the sense that I meant it in. Do NOT put words in my mouth. I was not uncomfortable within myself. That is BS. The ONLY moments I felt uncomfortable was when the MC said inappropriate and things that I felt were making fun of white people. And when a few people around us made us feel uncomfortable by things I heard them say and the way they looked at me when I clapped for Obama,and how she imitated me. That was ONE ignorant person who did that. I did not blame 10,ooo people for one stupid persons reaction. She made other comments too that made it clear that she wasn't too happy with white people. I did NOT imagine it. And I DID CLAP FOR HIM!!!!! You have no idea what you are talking about and obviuosly you did not read everything or you are not understanding what I am saying. It was INAPPROPRIATE things said that I would not clap for. Don't TELL me a black person can not be racist against a white person. I have experienced it on more than one occassion. The MAJORITY of the people there that night were wonderful, and I even said that. There were a few who were not. How would you know if I was welcomed or not? You weren't even there.

I am, a BLACK person ; one of the people you are so busy talking about without knowing about, telling other people what you think we black people should feel, think and how we should act, and you shouldn't speak about black people as if you know what and how we think and feel unless you have taken time to really learn more about the people you so openly pre judge.

[StevePerryHair]

You, only let it bother you because, you were uncomfortable within yourself about being in a situation where there was a majority of black people. I wouldn't call being proud of someone of the black race (even if he is only fifty percent) moving up in his career to the highest position in this country as idolatry apparently you have never had anything to overcome; You attended an event that was majority black you were welcomed and your children were not treated disrespectfully they were cheered and made to feel a part of something that they could have been shut completely out of. Then you say basically because black people were expressing pride in one of their own , you didn't even at times have the social fiber to at least give a cool polite little pat of the hand and you wonder why you were looked at. It wasn't racism that caused those looks. How would you feel if you were snubbed in your own home by someone you welcomed in with the thought that that person was there because they wanted to be and was just as happy being there as you were for having them there.

I

don't know who you think you are, but you do not know me and you have no idea what I felt inside so don't speak for me or judge me. I was saying the way they are EXPRESSING their pride feels like Idolatry. It just seems weird to have pictures of a president and his family all over tshirts. That is the sense that I meant it in. Do NOT put words in my mouth. I was not uncomfortable within myself. That is BS. The ONLY moments I felt uncomfortable was when the MC said inappropriate and things that I felt were making fun of white people. And when a few people around us made us feel uncomfortable by things I heard them say and the way they looked at me when I clapped for Obama,and how she imitated me. That was ONE ignorant person who did that. I did not blame 10,ooo people for one stupid persons reaction. She made other comments too that made it clear that she wasn't too happy with white people. I did NOT imagine it. And I DID CLAP FOR HIM!!!!! You have no idea what you are talking about and obviuosly you did not read everything or you are not understanding what I am saying. It was INAPPROPRIATE things said that I would not clap for. Don't TELL me a black person can not be racist against a white person. I have experienced it on more than one occassion. The MAJORITY of the people there that night were wonderful, and I even said that. There were a few who were not. How would you know if I was welcomed or not? You weren't even there.

I am, a BLACK person ; one of the people you are so busy talking about without knowing about, telling other people what you think we black people should feel, think and how we should act, and you shouldn't speak about black people as if you know what and how we think and feel unless you have taken time to really learn more about the people you so openly pre judge.

I actually learned a LOT that night and I thoroughly ENJOYED myself which I thought I made clear. It was SO COOL seeing the bands dance and move the way they did and I have never seen anything like it. We sat there for 4 hours, 3 of which were AFTER my son performed. I couldn't WAIT for the performances from the black colleges because I knew how awesome they would be and they WERE. The marching bands were AWESOME and the way everyone reacted to our "white" band was awesome too. I said that too. The MAJORITY of people there were wonderful and you're right, they could have totally snubbed the band, and they did not. I was proud of our kids and proud of everyone in that place because they appreciated that a lot of our kids can't easily march that way. It was a first for many of them. It was a blast! You chose to read more into what I said and assume that I felt things I did not feel. I only know what one ignorant girl in front of me did, and how she made me feel. And I know what that MC said, and he made me uncomfortable with some of the things he said too. This was a public event,not one only for black people, so I think he should have considered that when he chose HIS words. But obviously he was speaking to a majority and he didn't really care. He said things that were not appropriate and if you weren't there I don't see how you can judge my opinion. I still think it's weird to wear tshirts. But then I think my cousin is NUTS for having a magnet of George Bush on her refrigerator too. I am allowed to have that opinion. That is not racist to feel that way. I don't see how I pre-judged anyone. On the contrary, I was pre-judged by the girl in front of me. She ASSUMED because I was white I would not be happy that Obama got elected. She ASSUMED that I did not vote for him. That was as wrong as when white people pre-judge a black person. That was my point. Don't assume that I don't get to know any black people either. I belong to a church in a predominately black area and I am a minority there. Our community is VERY mixed and I LOVE that fact and I love the fact that my kids don't give a crap about skin color. Don't prejudge me just because I felt uncomfortable at things said at a place you did not attend. Sorry if I offended you with my words.

[annpea]

You, only let it bother you because, you were uncomfortable within yourself about being in a situation where there was a majority of black people. I wouldn't call being proud of someone of the black race (even if he is only fifty percent) moving up in his career to the highest position in this country as idolatry apparently you have never had anything to overcome; You attended an event that was majority black you were welcomed and your children were not treated disrespectfully they were cheered and made to feel a part of something that they could have been shut completely out of. Then you say basically because black people were expressing pride in one of their own , you didn't even at times have the social fiber to at least give a cool polite little pat of the hand and you wonder why you were looked at. It wasn't racism that caused those looks. How would you feel if you were snubbed in your own home by someone you welcomed in with the thought that that person was there because they wanted to be and was just as happy being there as you were for having them there.

I

don't know who you think you are, but you do not know me and you have no idea what I felt inside so don't speak for me or judge me. I was saying the way they are EXPRESSING their pride feels like Idolatry. It just seems weird to have pictures of a president and his family all over tshirts. That is the sense that I meant it in. Do NOT put words in my mouth. I was not uncomfortable within myself. That is BS. The ONLY moments I felt uncomfortable was when the MC said inappropriate and things that I felt were making fun of white people. And when a few people around us made us feel uncomfortable by things I heard them say and the way they looked at me when I clapped for Obama,and how she imitated me. That was ONE ignorant person who did that. I did not blame 10,ooo people for one stupid persons reaction. She made other comments too that made it clear that she wasn't too happy with white people. I did NOT imagine it. And I DID CLAP FOR HIM!!!!! You have no idea what you are talking about and obviuosly you did not read everything or you are not understanding what I am saying. It was INAPPROPRIATE things said that I would not clap for. Don't TELL me a black person can not be racist against a white person. I have experienced it on more than one occassion. The MAJORITY of the people there that night were wonderful, and I even said that. There were a few who were not. How would you know if I was welcomed or not? You weren't even there.

I am, a BLACK person ; one of the people you are so busy talking about without knowing about, telling other people what you think we black people should feel, think and how we should act, and you shouldn't speak about black people as if you know what and how we think and feel unless you have taken time to really learn more about the people you so openly pre judge.

I actually learned a LOT that night and I thoroughly ENJOYED myself which I thought I made clear. It was SO COOL seeing the bands dance and move the way they did and I have never seen anyting like it. We sat there for 4 hours, 3 of which were AFTER my son performed. I couldn't WAIT for the performances from the black colleges because I knew how awesome they would be and they WERE. The marching bands were AWESOME and the way everyone reacted to our "white" band was awesome too. I said that too. You chose to read more into what I said and assume that I felt things I did not feel. I only know what one ignorant girl in front of me did, and how she made me feel. And I know what that MC said, and he made me uncomfortable with some of the things he said too. This was a public event,not one only for black people, so I think he should have considered that when he chose HIS words. But obviously he was speaking to a majority and he didn't really care. He said things that were not appropriate and if you weren't there I don't see how you can judge my opinion. I still think it's weird to wear tshirts. But then I think my cousin is NUTS for having a magnet of George Bush on her refrigerator too. I am allowed to have that opinion. That is not racist to feel that way. I don't see how I pre-judged anyone. On the contrary, I was pre-judged by the girl in front of me. She ASSUMED because I was white I would not be happy that Obama got elected. She ASSUMED that I did not vote for him. That was as wrong as when white people pre-judge a black person. That was my point. Sorry if I offended you with my words.

And I'm sorry if I offended you but believe me even though I maybe black, we all don't feel ,think, and act alike. Mr. Obama was voted in on the bases of changing things in this country for all the people not one group of people; all the American people should feel safe and secure in this country, rich, poor, white,black,young, old ,male, female and gay. Believe you me Mr. Obama will be held accountable for doing a good or bad job while in office by people of color moreso than any other group of people in this country; which maybe a good thing or it may not; we will see in the long run. I don't see him as some savior of the black race, I see him as a man who said he want to try and fix a broken system (I say good luck to him ) he said he think that he can do the job and if there are black people who voted for him simply because he's black ( and I know there are many who did) then it's gonna be a sad day when it dawns on them that they actually voted for a man (and not just a black man) for president a man who has more than once stated that he is bascically for all the people, not just one group of people, and that's how it should be.

[youkeepmewaiting]

You, only let it bother you because, you were uncomfortable within yourself about being in a situation where there was a majority of black people. I wouldn't call being proud of someone of the black race (even if he is only fifty percent) moving up in his career to the highest position in this country as idolatry apparently you have never had anything to overcome; You attended an event that was majority black you were welcomed and your children were not treated disrespectfully they were cheered and made to feel a part of something that they could have been shut completely out of. Then you say basically because black people were expressing pride in one of their own , you didn't even at times have the social fiber to at least give a cool polite little pat of the hand and you wonder why you were looked at. It wasn't racism that caused those looks. How would you feel if you were snubbed in your own home by someone you welcomed in with the thought that that person was there because they wanted to be and was just as happy being there as you were for having them there.

I

don't know who you think you are, but you do not know me and you have no idea what I felt inside so don't speak for me or judge me. I was saying the way they are EXPRESSING their pride feels like Idolatry. It just seems weird to have pictures of a president and his family all over tshirts. That is the sense that I meant it in. Do NOT put words in my mouth. I was not uncomfortable within myself. That is BS. The ONLY moments I felt uncomfortable was when the MC said inappropriate and things that I felt were making fun of white people. And when a few people around us made us feel uncomfortable by things I heard them say and the way they looked at me when I clapped for Obama,and how she imitated me. That was ONE ignorant person who did that. I did not blame 10,ooo people for one stupid persons reaction. She made other comments too that made it clear that she wasn't too happy with white people. I did NOT imagine it. And I DID CLAP FOR HIM!!!!! You have no idea what you are talking about and obviuosly you did not read everything or you are not understanding what I am saying. It was INAPPROPRIATE things said that I would not clap for. Don't TELL me a black person can not be racist against a white person. I have experienced it on more than one occassion. The MAJORITY of the people there that night were wonderful, and I even said that. There were a few who were not. How would you know if I was welcomed or not? You weren't even there.

I am, a BLACK person ; one of the people you are so busy talking about without knowing about, telling other people what you think we black people should feel, think and how we should act, and you shouldn't speak about black people as if you know what and how we think and feel unless you have taken time to really learn more about the people you so openly pre judge.

Oh shut up you fucking idiot. Black people are racist... so are white people. Just like the person before me pointed out, some people are making this a matter of colour (both blacks and whites), whereas is should be about the future of your country.

[annpea]

You, only let it bother you because, you were uncomfortable within yourself about being in a situation where there was a majority of black people. I wouldn't call being proud of someone of the black race (even if he is only fifty percent) moving up in his career to the highest position in this country as idolatry apparently you have never had anything to overcome; You attended an event that was majority black you were welcomed and your children were not treated disrespectfully they were cheered and made to feel a part of something that they could have been shut completely out of. Then you say basically because black people were expressing pride in one of their own , you didn't even at times have the social fiber to at least give a cool polite little pat of the hand and you wonder why you were looked at. It wasn't racism that caused those looks. How would you feel if you were snubbed in your own home by someone you welcomed in with the thought that that person was there because they wanted to be and was just as happy being there as you were for having them there.

I

don't know who you think you are, but you do not know me and you have no idea what I felt inside so don't speak for me or judge me. I was saying the way they are EXPRESSING their pride feels like Idolatry. It just seems weird to have pictures of a president and his family all over tshirts. That is the sense that I meant it in. Do NOT put words in my mouth. I was not uncomfortable within myself. That is BS. The ONLY moments I felt uncomfortable was when the MC said inappropriate and things that I felt were making fun of white people. And when a few people around us made us feel uncomfortable by things I heard them say and the way they looked at me when I clapped for Obama,and how she imitated me. That was ONE ignorant person who did that. I did not blame 10,ooo people for one stupid persons reaction. She made other comments too that made it clear that she wasn't too happy with white people. I did NOT imagine it. And I DID CLAP FOR HIM!!!!! You have no idea what you are talking about and obviuosly you did not read everything or you are not understanding what I am saying. It was INAPPROPRIATE things said that I would not clap for. Don't TELL me a black person can not be racist against a white person. I have experienced it on more than one occassion. The MAJORITY of the people there that night were wonderful, and I even said that. There were a few who were not. How would you know if I was welcomed or not? You weren't even there.

I am, a BLACK person ; one of the people you are so busy talking about without knowing about, telling other people what you think we black people should feel, think and how we should act, and you shouldn't speak about black people as if you know what and how we think and feel unless you have taken time to really learn more about the people you so openly pre judge.

Oh shut up you fucking idiot. Black people are racist... so are white people. Just like the person before me pointed out, some people are making this a matter of colour (both blacks and whites), whereas is should be about the future of your country.

And I love you too! and you think for one minute that I!!! don't know that some black people are racist.