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Postby Deb » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:14 am

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WykkedSensation wrote:I like the way you keep saying ''NEW'' material there Drew. Nice, subtle :D


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I'll put money on the next Perry release being a compilation of sorts featuring no new material at all. Bets please...


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Re: WE'LL SEE

Postby bluejeangirl76 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:15 am

Deb wrote:
Andrew wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:I like the way you keep saying ''NEW'' material there Drew. Nice, subtle :D


:twisted:

I'll put money on the next Perry release being a compilation of sorts featuring no new material at all. Bets please...


ROR dvd????


We can hope, but I'd be shocked if that ever happened.

(Departure dvd? :D Pleeease? :( :lol: )
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Re: WE'LL SEE

Postby Don » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:41 am

Andrew wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:I like the way you keep saying ''NEW'' material there Drew. Nice, subtle :D


:twisted:

I'll put money on the next Perry release being a compilation of sorts featuring no new material at all. Bets please...


I'm thinking Perry's Greatest hits remastered on DVD in Dolby 7.1 with a laser light show effects that keep time to the music while still photos of his career are displayed in the backround.
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Postby squirt1 » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:42 am

Saint John- I think Perry will record again,but never tour. He has the money to back himself and awhile ago he talked about the freedom of not being signed to any label. They would force a tour. He was implying with the new technology an artist is in the drivers seat and Walmart as a new distributor doesn't require tours. He will never do ANYTHING he doesn't want to so........
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Re: WE'LL SEE

Postby artist4perry » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:47 am

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Andrew wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:I like the way you keep saying ''NEW'' material there Drew. Nice, subtle :D


:twisted:

I'll put money on the next Perry release being a compilation of sorts featuring no new material at all. Bets please...


I'm thinking Perry's Greatest hits remastered on DVD in Dolby 7.1 with a laser light show effects that keep time to the music while still photos of his career are displayed in the backround.


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Postby Don » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:50 am

I bet Fabrice Morvan of Milli Vanilli wishes they could have gotten away with out touring. With today's technology, they could have sounded exactly like the original singers that did their albums.
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Postby peridactyl » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:10 am

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Saint John wrote:lol...Steve Perry can put out 60 new songs and it won't mean shit until he performs live. Anyone can sound good today with the technology at hand.



I'm not sure I get this obsession among many Journey fans about live performance. I mean...you see a concert for an hour and half...and hear the same songs you've heard a thoudsand times before...and then you go home. Big deal.

For me the album is much more important and if Perry's voice was put through a couple of effects...well, so be it. But you can't fake soul and even if Perry sounds like a rasping old man on forty fags a day his voice will always have that.

So I couldn't care less if Perry can't carry off on an 80--city tour. This isn't some talent contest we're talking about.


I'm with you, man.

If Perry has the slightest inclination to sing ANYTHING again but is discouraged by the touring thing, who gives a damn if he doesn't tour?

I wouldn't want Steve to feel he should forget about any project unless he could do the whole touring thing. Damn, the man is nearly 60. I couldn't care less if he never did a live performance again.

I just want to hear whatever he may be working on because whatever he creates, whether he sings it or does background or writes for someone else, has a unique Perry stamp and I for one appreciate it.

If Steve ever has anything new to put out I feel sure it would be uniquely wonderful in one way or another, .

After waiting for a decade (and probably a lot longer.....) I would be happy that Steve would be willing to put himself out at all. In any damn way.
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Re: WE'LL SEE

Postby peridactyl » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:15 am

Gunbot wrote:
Andrew wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:I like the way you keep saying ''NEW'' material there Drew. Nice, subtle :D


:twisted:

I'll put money on the next Perry release being a compilation of sorts featuring no new material at all. Bets please...


I'm thinking Perry's Greatest hits remastered on DVD in Dolby 7.1 with a laser light show effects that keep time to the music while still photos of his career are displayed in the backround.


I doubt Steve would do anything that cheesy.....blech..... :lol:
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Postby donnaplease » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:15 pm

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Matthew wrote:I'm not sure I get this obsession among many Journey fans about live performance.

The question at hand was whether or not he can still sing at a high level, and I merely pointed out that, for me, I will need to judge him by a live performance. Your answer really doesn't pertain to my question.

Matthew wrote:I mean...you see a concert for an hour and half...and hear the same songs you've heard a thoudsand times before...and then you go home. Big deal.
Albums never change, but concerts are all unique. Whether it's new music, a forgotten oldie, or the guy next to you puking on your shoe, concerts always offer something different with virtually every listen. I've been hard on Journey for the same set list and "click track" because it's taking some of that uniqueness away.

Matthew wrote:For me the album is much more important and if Perry's voice was put through a couple of effects...well, so be it. But you can't fake soul and even if Perry sounds like a rasping old man on forty fags a day his voice will always have that.

So I couldn't care less if Perry can't carry off on an 80--city tour. This isn't some talent contest we're talking about.
Again, very valid points, but no one is asking for an 80 city tour. I just don't think it's asking too much to perform a new song or two live. That's it. I mean, if you're putting something out that you can't even perform live is that even being an artist? Again, I'm just defending my position as to why it would be important for *me* to hear him sing again.


Here's the thing for me, Dan...

I'd love to see a live SP performance. AI, tour, it doesn't matter to me (although I'd give nearly AN-Y-THING to see him perform live). However, if he feels that he could not live up to the hype, for whatever reason, I would be ok with just a new album. People are NEVER satisfied by him, they ALWAYS want something more, and if he doesn't live up to it, he gets trashed. I've seen it too many times here.

Then again, the band that this forum is dedicated to has no problem NOT singing live, as we've all been made aware (thanks to Dean and others here and elsewhere). I believe SP has said that if he couldn't do it justice, he wouldn't do it, simply out of respect to the music. Obviously other members of the legacy aren't quite so noble.

Now, as for you, my friend... I know how much of a loon you really are, so cut the crap and quit harassing the Voice! :x I'll come to Chi-town and hunt your sorry ass down!!! :P :wink:
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Re: WE'LL SEE

Postby WykkedSensation » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:45 am

Andrew wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:I like the way you keep saying ''NEW'' material there Drew. Nice, subtle :D


:twisted:

I'll put money on the next Perry release being a compilation of sorts featuring no new material at all. Bets please...



Aha, just as i thought.
Now you know something about this don't ya Drew? C'mon now, spill the beans :D
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Re: WE'LL SEE

Postby annie89509 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:00 am

Deb wrote:
Andrew wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:I like the way you keep saying ''NEW'' material there Drew. Nice, subtle :D


:twisted:

I'll put money on the next Perry release being a compilation of sorts featuring no new material at all. Bets please...


ROR dvd???? Image

What Deb said ... with the emoticon :wink: .
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Postby annie89509 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:28 am

Luvsaugeri wrote:Wow....great work Gin!!!

These threads just make me laugh. It's truly like Groundhog Day!!

My question is this.....when do the people that think he will never come out with anything major as far as new music or a tour get to say "I told you so"? They really have to wait until his funeral. And even then it wouldn't surprise me one bit to read a "My brother's ex sister in law works at the funeral home and she overheard someone say that he had a CD completed and it's going to be released posthumously."

8) Well, I have always said, from Day 1 .... that so long as there's breath, there's hope. That applies to both him and us ... nobody is getting younger. But, you're right, never thought of the posthumously angle :wink: .
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Postby Matthew » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:02 am

Saint John wrote:The question at hand was whether or not he can still sing at a high level, and I merely pointed out that, for me, I will need to judge him by a live performance. Your answer really doesn't pertain to my question.


It does pertain to it because I'm saying a the ability to tour isn't the only criteria for Perry performing 'at a high level'. An outstanding album is equally, if not more important.

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Whether it's new music, a forgotten oldie, or the guy next to you puking on your shoe, concerts always offer something different with virtually every listen. I've been hard on Journey for the same set list and "click track" because it's taking some of that uniqueness away.


Sure - each performance has a few nuances that make them unique. But these nuances aren't so fascinating that they somehow negate the experience of listening to a timeless album.

Again, very valid points, but no one is asking for an 80 city tour. I just don't think it's asking too much to perform a new song or two live. That's it. I mean, if you're putting something out that you can't even perform live is that even being an artist? Again, I'm just defending my position as to why it would be important for *me* to hear him sing again.


Saint John - I get that concerts are important to you but I'm not sure that it's true to say that Perry - or anyone else - isn't an artist unless they perform live. Song-writing, production, getting the perfect take...these are all crucial aspects of being an artist. There are plenty of hack singers on our television screens right now singing live who wouldn't know their arse from they elbow when it comes to creating music in the studio.
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Postby Matthew » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:10 am

annie89509 wrote:
Luvsaugeri wrote:Wow....great work Gin!!!

These threads just make me laugh. It's truly like Groundhog Day!!

My question is this.....when do the people that think he will never come out with anything major as far as new music or a tour get to say "I told you so"? They really have to wait until his funeral. And even then it wouldn't surprise me one bit to read a "My brother's ex sister in law works at the funeral home and she overheard someone say that he had a CD completed and it's going to be released posthumously."

8) Well, I have always said, from Day 1 .... that so long as there's breath, there's hope. That applies to both him and us ... nobody is getting younger. But, you're right, never thought of the posthumously angle :wink: .



Yes - she's totally correct. And my first thought after Perry's funeral would definitely be..."What's in the archive?" It really won't be until my own funeral that I'll be able to let go of hearing new material from the guy.
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Postby artist4perry » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:15 am

Matthew wrote:
annie89509 wrote:
Luvsaugeri wrote:Wow....great work Gin!!!

These threads just make me laugh. It's truly like Groundhog Day!!

My question is this.....when do the people that think he will never come out with anything major as far as new music or a tour get to say "I told you so"? They really have to wait until his funeral. And even then it wouldn't surprise me one bit to read a "My brother's ex sister in law works at the funeral home and she overheard someone say that he had a CD completed and it's going to be released posthumously."

8) Well, I have always said, from Day 1 .... that so long as there's breath, there's hope. That applies to both him and us ... nobody is getting younger. But, you're right, never thought of the posthumously angle :wink: .



Yes - she's totally correct. And my first thought after Perry's funeral would definitely be..."What's in the archive?" It really won't be until my own funeral that I'll be able to let go of hearing new material from the guy.


They could play it in our Crypts................lol :lol: :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:00 am

donnaplease wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Matthew wrote:I'm not sure I get this obsession among many Journey fans about live performance.

The question at hand was whether or not he can still sing at a high level, and I merely pointed out that, for me, I will need to judge him by a live performance. Your answer really doesn't pertain to my question.

Matthew wrote:I mean...you see a concert for an hour and half...and hear the same songs you've heard a thoudsand times before...and then you go home. Big deal.
Albums never change, but concerts are all unique. Whether it's new music, a forgotten oldie, or the guy next to you puking on your shoe, concerts always offer something different with virtually every listen. I've been hard on Journey for the same set list and "click track" because it's taking some of that uniqueness away.

Matthew wrote:For me the album is much more important and if Perry's voice was put through a couple of effects...well, so be it. But you can't fake soul and even if Perry sounds like a rasping old man on forty fags a day his voice will always have that.

So I couldn't care less if Perry can't carry off on an 80--city tour. This isn't some talent contest we're talking about.
Again, very valid points, but no one is asking for an 80 city tour. I just don't think it's asking too much to perform a new song or two live. That's it. I mean, if you're putting something out that you can't even perform live is that even being an artist? Again, I'm just defending my position as to why it would be important for *me* to hear him sing again.


Here's the thing for me, Dan...

I'd love to see a live SP performance. AI, tour, it doesn't matter to me (although I'd give nearly AN-Y-THING to see him perform live). However, if he feels that he could not live up to the hype, for whatever reason, I would be ok with just a new album. People are NEVER satisfied by him, they ALWAYS want something more, and if he doesn't live up to it, he gets trashed. I've seen it too many times here.

Then again, the band that this forum is dedicated to has no problem NOT singing live, as we've all been made aware (thanks to Dean and others here and elsewhere). I believe SP has said that if he couldn't do it justice, he wouldn't do it, simply out of respect to the music. Obviously other members of the legacy aren't quite so noble.

Now, as for you, my friend... I know how much of a loon you really are, so cut the crap and quit harassing the Voice! :x I'll come to Chi-town and hunt your sorry ass down!!! :P :wink:
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Re: WE'LL SEE

Postby Andrew » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:41 pm

Andrew wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:I like the way you keep saying ''NEW'' material there Drew. Nice, subtle :D


:twisted:

I'll put money on the next Perry release being a compilation of sorts featuring no new material at all. Bets please...


All bets are off now it seems... :twisted:
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Postby Loneman1 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:18 pm

I'd EASILY settle for a CD set of all the supposed unreleased stuff he's been sitting on for all these years. The dude probably has one of the most sought after "vaults" ever!
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Postby Michigan Girl » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:20 pm

Loneman1 wrote:I'd EASILY settle for a CD set of all the supposed unreleased stuff he's been sitting on for all these years. The dude probably has one of the most sought after "vaults" ever!


I'm with you!!!! :wink:
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Re: WE'LL SEE

Postby Saint John » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:30 pm

Andrew wrote:
Andrew wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:I like the way you keep saying ''NEW'' material there Drew. Nice, subtle :D


:twisted:

I'll put money on the next Perry release being a compilation of sorts featuring no new material at all. Bets please...


All bets are off now it seems... :twisted:
What does that mean? :? :shock:
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Postby Loneman1 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:30 pm

Michigan Girl wrote:
Loneman1 wrote:I'd EASILY settle for a CD set of all the supposed unreleased stuff he's been sitting on for all these years. The dude probably has one of the most sought after "vaults" ever!


I'm with you!!!! :wink:


Seriously! I'd actually prefer all the gems that have yet to be released, as well as PROPER versions of the sub-par quality stuff that has been circulating for years. I was psyched when four of the five Alien Project songs were finally released between his GH and "Street Talk" remasters. I'm still wondering where "Holding On" went to......
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Re: WE'LL SEE

Postby Perrydise » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:27 pm

Saint John wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Andrew wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:I like the way you keep saying ''NEW'' material there Drew. Nice, subtle :D


:twisted:

I'll put money on the next Perry release being a compilation of sorts featuring no new material at all. Bets please...


All bets are off now it seems... :twisted:
What does that mean? :? :shock:


Read the front page! :lol:
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Re: WE'LL SEE

Postby strangegrey » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:08 am

madsplash wrote:There will be a huge meal of crow to be eaten.

I'll go to war with what I'm hearing, whether I'm the new guy or not. And whether or not past "sources" have heard different things. I just had a long Thanksgiving day chat with my sister. As I said, I'll go to war with what I've been told. Things change, people and "sources" change.

My day here, and The Voice's day everywhere is coming. The fun it will be to watch the negative, immature, jealous, cynical, bitter people be flat out WRONG, will be spectacular! (You know who you are).


WE'LL SEE. Just wait.


Madsplash, with all due respect, this fan base has been through it all with respect to Steve Perry. There are some here that have been watching this band since before there was an internet....and those few were slapping messages on digest lists via bitnet. Seriously, for every time there's a new poster that shows up with a "I've got inside information from my sister's mother's boyfriend's accountants daughter"...stock prices change by about 1 index point. It's gotten old.

However, what imediately red flags your post is your determination to go to war with whomever challenges your assertions as anything but what I described above. Thou doth protest too much!!! Sorry.....as already mentioned in this thread, there's good, hard, reliable sources of Perry information....like Andrew, Lora, Cyndy, etc who have far more credibility than you as a newbie poster could ever have.

It's not enough to post a rumor (or more likely last night's wet dream)...and state you're prepared to go to the matresses to defend your credibility. Just because you're the first person to draw the sabers and rattle them profusely, doesn't mean your fantasy of watching perry return to slay an evil dragon and take you for his queen....will *ever* come true.

I have hopes of seeing Perry return with new music someday....however, I would sooner take news of such information from Andrew, Lora or Cyndy LONG before I ever took it from a thousand newbie posters demanding that they be recognized as the new inside source....I'm quite confident that 99.999% of the posters here will side with my opinion on this.

No offense...but some of us have seen this playout more times than you could ever imagine...
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Re: WE'LL SEE

Postby whirlwind » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:50 am

Perrydise wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Andrew wrote:
WykkedSensation wrote:I like the way you keep saying ''NEW'' material there Drew. Nice, subtle :D


:twisted:

I'll put money on the next Perry release being a compilation of sorts featuring no new material at all. Bets please...


All bets are off now it seems... :twisted:
What does that mean? :? :shock:


Read the front page! :lol:




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