Rockindeano wrote:The jobless claims would rival the population of Coloarad
Where's that? I think it's a city in Spain, but I can check for you.

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Rockindeano wrote:The jobless claims would rival the population of Coloarad
Jana wrote: But Joe is starting to show a little bittnerness since the election.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Onestepper wrote:Who cares. I was merely making the point that the person who steps up to the liberal agenda on the show thought Mathews comments were out of bounds. Nothing more or less.
Giggling like a twit and twirling her hair at every mention of "Obama" is not implementing a "liberal agenda."
Rachel Maddow steps up to the liberal agenda.
Mika, on the other hand, is just an telemprompter reader in Obama's big tent personality cult.
Rockindeano wrote:Are you talking about Joe Scarborough? I dig that guy.
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Rockindeano wrote:The jobless claims would rival the population of Coloarad
Where's that? I think it's a city in Spain, but I can check for you.
Rockindeano wrote:Jana wrote: But Joe is starting to show a little bittnerness since the election.
Are you talking about Joe Scarborough? I dig that guy, but that woman who sits along side with him is as about smart as Neal's asscheeks. She says the dumbest shit and smiles...and she isn't hot enough to do that shit.
And by the way, where in the fuck did Paula Zahn? I know she left CNN for Campbell Brown, but I am shocked nobody picked her up, especially MSNBC. I think she is hot as Hell, especially when she wears the teacher/secretary glasses.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Are you talking about Joe Scarborough? I dig that guy.
Any thoughts on the dead intern found in his office?
I"ve always noticed Joe's cavalier misogynist streak, but after reading about that, I really notice it.
Rockindeano wrote:
Ok look. I know it stings, but what is the Gov't supposed to do? Let them fail? You have any idea of the major ramifications we would experience? The jobless claims would rival the population of Colorado, the image of America would be seriously injured and mocked and that is a big deal by the way. People out of work don't behave very nice. They tend to get chippy, and get hungry as well. They tend to commit crimes in order to feed themselves and their families. So the Big 2(Chrysler sucks), has proven they have NO vision. They let Honda and Toyota keep rolling right along, and now Nissan is a big power again. The three assholes, Waggoner, Nardelli and the Ford clown, are now asking for a loan, not free money. Those dolts arrived at the Capitol in domestic cars this last time, rather than three separate private jets, and maybe they get the message. If the government turns their backs on the Auto industry, who knows what next industry will fail. You pick, could be anyone. This Bush economy has hurt a lot of people. Manufacturing is down, and as a result, so are sales. So in this one little example, When Toro stopped making their new 2009 lawnmowers and weedeaters, Home Depot stopped ordering them, and Union Pacific stopped delivering them, thus Toro and Home Depot laid off workers..and so on and so on. This economy is a result of a failed Bush presidency, and tax breaks for the wealthy. Trickle down failed-again. I do know this economy and the auto situation is different caused by different variables, but we as a people are all in this together. And for those asshole Senators in the South, fuck you. Next time a hurricane buries your sorry states, how would you like it if people of Michigan and Indiana and NY said, "deal with it" ??
Rockindeano wrote:Jana wrote: But Joe is starting to show a little bittnerness since the election.
Are you talking about Joe Scarborough? I dig that guy, but that woman who sits along side with him is as about smart as Neal's asscheeks. She says the dumbest shit and smiles...and she isn't hot enough to do that shit.
And by the way, where in the fuck did Paula Zahn? I know she left CNN for Campbell Brown, but I am shocked nobody picked her up, especially MSNBC. I think she is hot as Hell, especially when she wears the teacher/secretary glasses.
Ehwmatt wrote:Rockindeano wrote:
Ok look. I know it stings, but what is the Gov't supposed to do? Let them fail? You have any idea of the major ramifications we would experience? The jobless claims would rival the population of Colorado, the image of America would be seriously injured and mocked and that is a big deal by the way. People out of work don't behave very nice. They tend to get chippy, and get hungry as well. They tend to commit crimes in order to feed themselves and their families. So the Big 2(Chrysler sucks), has proven they have NO vision. They let Honda and Toyota keep rolling right along, and now Nissan is a big power again. The three assholes, Waggoner, Nardelli and the Ford clown, are now asking for a loan, not free money. Those dolts arrived at the Capitol in domestic cars this last time, rather than three separate private jets, and maybe they get the message. If the government turns their backs on the Auto industry, who knows what next industry will fail. You pick, could be anyone. This Bush economy has hurt a lot of people. Manufacturing is down, and as a result, so are sales. So in this one little example, When Toro stopped making their new 2009 lawnmowers and weedeaters, Home Depot stopped ordering them, and Union Pacific stopped delivering them, thus Toro and Home Depot laid off workers..and so on and so on. This economy is a result of a failed Bush presidency, and tax breaks for the wealthy. Trickle down failed-again. I do know this economy and the auto situation is different caused by different variables, but we as a people are all in this together. And for those asshole Senators in the South, fuck you. Next time a hurricane buries your sorry states, how would you like it if people of Michigan and Indiana and NY said, "deal with it" ??
You know whta people don't think of? Things like the impact on professional sports if the big 3 went under. There's no way they could go on like they do. A huge chunk of our commercial/entertainment economy would go right out the window, making things unfathomably worse. This is a non-partisan issue, as far as I'm concerned. And even denying that, the precedent's already been set by both sides. Yes, the CEOs are dicks and they've had a shitty business model for decades, but you can't punish everyone else for their mistakes.
Rockindeano wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Rockindeano wrote:
Ok look. I know it stings, but what is the Gov't supposed to do? Let them fail? You have any idea of the major ramifications we would experience? The jobless claims would rival the population of Colorado, the image of America would be seriously injured and mocked and that is a big deal by the way. People out of work don't behave very nice. They tend to get chippy, and get hungry as well. They tend to commit crimes in order to feed themselves and their families. So the Big 2(Chrysler sucks), has proven they have NO vision. They let Honda and Toyota keep rolling right along, and now Nissan is a big power again. The three assholes, Waggoner, Nardelli and the Ford clown, are now asking for a loan, not free money. Those dolts arrived at the Capitol in domestic cars this last time, rather than three separate private jets, and maybe they get the message. If the government turns their backs on the Auto industry, who knows what next industry will fail. You pick, could be anyone. This Bush economy has hurt a lot of people. Manufacturing is down, and as a result, so are sales. So in this one little example, When Toro stopped making their new 2009 lawnmowers and weedeaters, Home Depot stopped ordering them, and Union Pacific stopped delivering them, thus Toro and Home Depot laid off workers..and so on and so on. This economy is a result of a failed Bush presidency, and tax breaks for the wealthy. Trickle down failed-again. I do know this economy and the auto situation is different caused by different variables, but we as a people are all in this together. And for those asshole Senators in the South, fuck you. Next time a hurricane buries your sorry states, how would you like it if people of Michigan and Indiana and NY said, "deal with it" ??
You know whta people don't think of? Things like the impact on professional sports if the big 3 went under. There's no way they could go on like they do. A huge chunk of our commercial/entertainment economy would go right out the window, making things unfathomably worse. This is a non-partisan issue, as far as I'm concerned. And even denying that, the precedent's already been set by both sides. Yes, the CEOs are dicks and they've had a shitty business model for decades, but you can't punish everyone else for their mistakes.
Fuck! Are you agreeing with me here? I think so, but want confirmation.
Jana wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Jana wrote: But Joe is starting to show a little bittnerness since the election.
Are you talking about Joe Scarborough? I dig that guy, but that woman who sits along side with him is as about smart as Neal's asscheeks. She says the dumbest shit and smiles...and she isn't hot enough to do that shit.
And by the way, where in the fuck did Paula Zahn? I know she left CNN for Campbell Brown, but I am shocked nobody picked her up, especially MSNBC. I think she is hot as Hell, especially when she wears the teacher/secretary glasses.
Yeah, Dean, we're talking about Joe. I enjoyed his show, especially during primaries. He was actually very fair to Hillary. Mika is okay in very small doses. Zahn was having an affair and her marriage broke up and the show ended due to poor ratings. I don't know where she is.
Rockindeano wrote:bluejeangirl76 wrote:Rockindeano wrote:The jobless claims would rival the population of Coloarad
Where's that? I think it's a city in Spain, but I can check for you.
At least this proves you actually read my post. You are welcome for the lesson, dumbass.
Rockindeano wrote:Ok look. I know it stings, but what is the Gov't supposed to do? Let them fail? You have any idea of the major ramifications we would experience? The jobless claims would rival the population of Colorado, the image of America would be seriously injured and mocked and that is a big deal by the way. People out of work don't behave very nice. They tend to get chippy, and get hungry as well. They tend to commit crimes in order to feed themselves and their families. So the Big 2(Chrysler sucks), has proven they have NO vision. They let Honda and Toyota keep rolling right along, and now Nissan is a big power again. The three assholes, Waggoner, Nardelli and the Ford clown, are now asking for a loan, not free money. Those dolts arrived at the Capitol in domestic cars this last time, rather than three separate private jets, and maybe they get the message. If the government turns their backs on the Auto industry, who knows what next industry will fail. You pick, could be anyone. This Bush economy has hurt a lot of people. Manufacturing is down, and as a result, so are sales. So in this one little example, When Toro stopped making their new 2009 lawnmowers and weedeaters, Home Depot stopped ordering them, and Union Pacific stopped delivering them, thus Toro and Home Depot laid off workers..and so on and so on. This economy is a result of a failed Bush presidency, and tax breaks for the wealthy. Trickle down failed-again. I do know this economy and the auto situation is different caused by different variables, but we as a people are all in this together. And for those asshole Senators in the South, fuck you. Next time a hurricane buries your sorry states, how would you like it if people of Michigan and Indiana and NY said, "deal with it" ??
Rockindeano wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Are you talking about Joe Scarborough? I dig that guy.
Any thoughts on the dead intern found in his office?
I"ve always noticed Joe's cavalier misogynist streak, but after reading about that, I really notice it.
Well, he was a republican Congressman.From Florida
Jana wrote:Rockindeano wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Are you talking about Joe Scarborough? I dig that guy.
Any thoughts on the dead intern found in his office?
I"ve always noticed Joe's cavalier misogynist streak, but after reading about that, I really notice it.
Well, he was a republican Congressman.From Florida
We here in Florida like our scandals too. He resigned a few months after being reelected to, QUOTE, spend time with his family. Never could figure what was going on after reading that. But no dirt came out. Well, I think he got divorced. That was probably his first wife then. I don't know the timeline on all of that. I never really followed it.
Rockindeano wrote:Jana wrote:Rockindeano wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Are you talking about Joe Scarborough? I dig that guy.
Any thoughts on the dead intern found in his office?
I"ve always noticed Joe's cavalier misogynist streak, but after reading about that, I really notice it.
Well, he was a republican Congressman.From Florida
We here in Florida like our scandals too. He resigned a few months after being reelected to, QUOTE, spend time with his family. Never could figure what was going on after reading that. But no dirt came out. Well, I think he got divorced. That was probably his first wife then. I don't know the timeline on all of that. I never really followed it.
Florida has to be the most fucked up place in the nation, bar none.
Fact Finder wrote:Tito...is it just me, or do we have here the makings of a real life Chi-Town turf war going on...Blago and Friends -v- Obama and Friends.
Sure seems like it. Who would send death threats to Emanuel and why? Or is he making it up for sympathy.
Is Obama going to fiddle while Rahm burns?![]()
Oh and BTW, Blagos Chief of Staff John Harris, who was arrested with Blago the other day, has resigned as well.
CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., who was cited in a criminal complaint against Rod Blagojevich, went to the U.S. Attorney's office about alleged wrongdoers, including the Illinois governor, a Jackson spokesman said Tuesday.
Jesse Jackson Jr. reported in 2006 what he believed was a shakedown by the Illinois governor.
Spokesman Kenneth Edmonds described Jackson's interaction with federal authorities this way: "As a responsible citizen and elected official, Congressman Jackson has in the past provided information to federal authorities regarding his personal knowledge of perceived corruption and governmental misconduct.
"This was completely unrelated to the current investigation regarding the U.S. Senate appointment. And it is absolutely inaccurate to describe the congressman as an informant," Edmonds said in a written statement.
Jackson, a Democrat, has given information regarding the embattled Democratic governor of Illinois, though not in the case currently under investigation, Edmonds said.
In addition, two sources close to Jackson told CNN that, in 2002, Blagojevich -- then running for governor of Illinois -- solicited a $25,000 campaign donation from Jackson, which he did not get.
At the time, Jackson's wife, Sandi, was a candidate for the job of director of the state's Lottery Commission, a post she did not win, the sources said.
After Blagojevich took office, in early 2003, he told Jackson something to the effect of, "You see what $25,000 would have done?" the sources said.
In 2006, Jackson reported the incident, which he believed to have been an attempt at a shakedown, the sources said.
The report, the sources said, came three three years later because Jackson's memory was jogged by another case -- that of developer Tony Rezko, whose fraud and corruption trial included testimony about $25,000 donations to Blagojevich.
Jackson did not endorse Blagojevich in his initial campaign and tried to stay on the sidelines during the governor's re-election bid, one of the sources said.
Blagojevich's office did not return calls seeking comment.
The comments by Jackson's spokesman come on the same day members of an Illinois House of Representatives panel met to determine whether there is a basis to impeach Blagojevich.
Federal prosecutors accuse Blagojevich of trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama's former Senate seat.
The governor was arrested December 9 on federal corruption charges and has since ignored calls to resign.
Although Blagojevich, 52, has not commented publicly on the charges, his lawyer Ed Genson said the governor had done nothing wrong and does not intend to step down.
"We're going to fight this case," Genson said.
The 21-member panel is "not a committee to impeach the governor, but rather to investigate whether or not there exists a basis for the drafting and consideration of an impeachment motion by the full House," said Rep. Barbara Flynn Currie, the majority leader and chairwoman of the committee. Watch as panel begins its work »
The proceedings will be fair, Currie said.
"Many Illinoisans today, including some of the lawmakers chosen to sit on this committee, have strong feelings about the governor and the crimes of which he's been accused," she said. "But let us remember that we are not 'Alice in Wonderland.' We're not the Red Queen; we do not sentence first and then do the verdict." Watch as panelists debate governor's capacity to serve »
The committee, which includes a dozen Democrats and nine Republicans, was meeting to discuss its investigation and procedures.
Currie said she met Monday with U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, the lead prosecutor in the case, to ask for help and information as well as "to make sure our investigation doesn't trample on his."
Fitzgerald had asked the committee put its request in writing, and Currie said the committee planned to do that.
Currie adjourned the hearing until Wednesday so Genson could attend. She said she had also written a letter to Blagojevich, inviting him to participate in the proceedings.
She said that on Wednesday, members will probably examine the 76-page federal criminal complaint, which includes transcripts of several expletive-laced taped phone conversations the governor had, in which he allegedly tried to personally benefit from the Senate vacancy.
Many members said Tuesday they regretted having to call impeachment proceedings but said it was necessary.
"It's unfortunate we're here," said Republican Rep. Jim Durkin, "but we have responsibilities."
Democratic Rep. Frank Mautino added, "No one takes any joy in watching someone stumble, but in the course of going forward, we all have a job to do."
On Monday, Obama said a review of his transition team's activities showed that he and his staff had no inappropriate discussions with either Blagojevich or Blagojevich's staff about filling the vacant Senate seat.
"There is nothing in the review that was presented to me that in any way contradicted my earlier statements that this appalling set of circumstances that we've seen arise had nothing to do with my office," Obama said.
Obama noted that Fitzgerald has requested a week's delay of the public release of the review so that it would not "interfere with an ongoing investigation" of the governor.
On Sunday, the governor spoke briefly to reporters.
"There will be an appropriate time to talk about this, but let me just wish everybody happy holidays," he said. "Things will work out just fine."
Blagojevich and his former chief of staff, John Harris, 46, were each charged with a count of conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and a count of solicitation of bribery, authorities said. iReport.com: Do you trust your leaders?
Harris has since resigned but has not commented on the charges.
On Friday, Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan petitioned the state Supreme Court to temporarily remove Blagojevich from office or, at least, strip him of some of his authority. Madigan says that Blagojevich is "disabled" and cannot carry out the functions of his office.
"We are not looking to try to convict him criminally with the pleadings that we brought to the Illinois Supreme Court," she said Sunday. "We're simply recognizing that these are extraordinary, unprecedented circumstances and that we need to have a governor who can actually use the powers of that office and govern our state, or else our state becomes paralyzed."
"There is also this serious concern that absolutely everything that he does from here on out is going to be tainted," she said. "It's going to be illegitimate. And so we think it is absolutely obvious that he is incapable of governing, and the best thing to do is to move aside."
(CNN) -- Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich on Tuesday named former Illinois Attorney General Roland Burris to the U.S. Senate.
Burris' appointment would fill President-elect Barack Obama's former Senate seat. Blagojevich is to announce his choice at a news conference at 3 p.m. ET.
Burris, 71, is African-American. Earlier this month, he said that despite the scandal associated with the seat, he wanted the job.
Blagojevich was arrested this month on federal corruption charges and has since ignored calls to resign.
Burris does not have to be formally approved by the Senate to be appointed by Blagojevich. But the Senate could refuse to seat Burris, or it could seat him and investigate the manner in which he was appointed, and unseat him if senators discover any wrongdoing.
Two Democratic officials tell CNN that Senate Democratic leaders are planning to block Blagojevich's appointment of Burris.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, has threatened not to seat anyone the governor appoints and has called for Blagojevich, a Democrat, to step down.
In a statement released Tuesday, Reid said it was "truly regrettable that ... Gov. Blagojevich would take the imprudent step of appointing someone to the United States Senate who would serve under a shadow and be plagued by questions of impropriety."
"We again urge Gov. Blagojevich to not make this appointment. It is unfair to Mr. Burris, it is unfair to the people of Illinois and it will ultimately not stand," Reid said. "The governor must put the interests of the people of Illinois and all Americans first by stepping aside now and letting his successor appoint someone who we will seat."
Although Blagojevich, 52, has not commented publicly on the charges, his lawyer Ed Genson said the governor has done nothing wrong and does not intend to step down.
FBI agents arrested Blagojevich on December 9 after federal prosecutors alleged, among other things, that he had tried to "sell" Obama's former Senate seat. It is the sole authority of the Illinois governor to name a successor who would serve the remaining two years of Obama's term.
Jana wrote:Wow, Lt Governor Pat Quinn is on TV right now in a news conference slamming Blag for picking a successor to Obama's senate seat and calling him a crook and calling him a disgrace to the people of Illinois and that the replacement he picked shouldn't be accepting it from him. Go Lt. Governor Quinn.
Jana wrote:Wow, Lt Governor Pat Quinn is on TV right now in a news conference slamming Blag for picking a successor to Obama's senate seat and calling him a crook and calling him a disgrace to the people of Illinois and that the replacement he picked shouldn't be accepting it from him. Go Lt. Governor Quinn.
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