Sam Bradford

[ScarabGator]

Tim, for the first time ever, I am jealous of you, because you are chugging beers and I am sipping Coke Zero. This will be the only time I ever mention this!

Come to me my son...... I had to do something to get thru that Atlanta-Tampa Bay game....

I enjoyed that game.....

Yes me too! Im a closet TB fan but thank God the Falcons won!!! Ive always been a Falcon fan...dont know why but I guess because they get pissed on so much.

That must explain why I am still a Browns fan!!

Do you have a pro team you are passionate about like the Gators?

No, not nearly as much. Growing up in Miami my dad and I would go to Dolphin games if the Gators game wasnt a late kickoff on saturday night. Used to upset my mom so bad because during football season she didnt have a husband or a son. But if I had to say I am a Dolphin fan...all the way back to Bob Griese, Earl Morrall, Don Strock, David Woodley and of course the immortal Dan Marino.....

[Enigma869]

You need to look into the word, "their." It works pretty well and helps us to better read what the fuck it is you are trying to say.

Dean...Washington State called. They're looking for that degree they awarded you They told me to tell you that the word that should really be looked into is "They're"

[Luvsaugeri]

I am loving what the Dolphins are doing this year. I am really pulling for them!!

I got to see Dan Marino up close and personal when he was here to be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Seems like a classy guy.

[ScarabGator]

I am loving what the Dolphins are doing this year. I am really pulling for them!!

I got to see Dan Marino up close and personal when he was here to be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Seems like a classy guy.

He was a pretty cool guy but Ive heard some stories from workers at his house that says different....Hell, who knows?

[Rockindeano]

You need to look into the word, "their." It works pretty well and helps us to better read what the fuck it is you are trying to say.

Dean...Washington State called. They're looking for that degree they awarded you They told me to tell you that the word that should really be looked into is "They're"

Go fuck yourself. You know what I was trying to say. Goddammit, there are so many fucking ill grammar posts here it is damn near impossible to navigate through them...but I persevere nonetheless.

PS- John, go fuck yourself. I am 11-1 in NFL picks and have Dallas to blow out the G men tonight.

[Enigma869]

Oh boy, I knew it was gonna happen. Theyve awakened the sleeping giant again. From the Gainesville Sun:

Tebow’s snub adds BCS motivation

The Associated Press


Published: Saturday, December 13, 2008 at 11:48 p.m.
Last Modified: Saturday, December 13, 2008 at 11:48 p.m.
NEW YORK — Good news out of the Big Apple Saturday night.


Bradford takes Heisman
Tim Tebow didn’t win the Heisman.

Whaatt?!?

Yep, I’m saying it was good news.

Not for Tebow or his family. Back-to-back would have been unbelievable.

But for Florida’s chances of winning the BCS National Championship Game next month.

Sam Bradford will be the guy eating rubber chicken and posing for pictures and shaking thousands of sweaty palms over the next week. Bradford will be the guy being pounded with questions about the Heisman jinx. Four of the last five winners have lost their bowl games.

Gator fans wouldn’t mind if it became five of six.

Because for the second time ever, Heisman winners will face off and do it in Dolphins Stadium. OK, it was Pro Player Stadium when Jason White and Matt Leinart went head-to-head four years ago, but you get the drift. It’s kind of amazing that Heisman winners had never gone against each other and now will do it twice in five seasons.

So here’s what we got Saturday night.

1. The big game was injected with more juice because Bradford won the award.

2. Tebow was injected with an extra dose of motivation, like he needed it. He had that look. He doesn’t like losing at anything.

“Why get over it? Use it,” Tebow said. “I’ll be motivated enough. I think it’s more motivating for my teammates. They’re a little bit excited. I’ve already got a lot of text messages. I can’t share them but there were some good ones.”

Probably along the lines of, “We’ll show that guy who should have won the Heisman.”

We all remember what happened the last time Florida faced a Heisman Trophy winner.

3. More voters thought Tebow deserved to win the Heisman than any of the other quarterbacks. He received the most first-place votes. Must feel a little like Al Gore in 2000.

I asked Tebow if he took any solace in that.

“Not really,” he said. “If you lose, you lose.”

Let’s face it, folks, you don’t lose the Heisman Trophy. You just don’t win it. At least not this time.

But the good news I’m talking about is that Tebow is taking this like a loss. Maybe not in an Ole Miss way, but it’s there.

Just finishing third in a close vote was a pat-on-the-back achievement considering the way his numbers were dwarfed by the Big 12 quarterbacks. And the reason he didn’t win was that there were 154 voters who left him off the ballot.

Like I wrote Saturday, there was no wrong ballot, even if you left any of the three off because Graham Harrell was deserving as well. But the fact that there were 154 semi-educated voters who left Tebow off their ballots and 120 who dissed McCoy and 93 who snubbed Bradford tells you they must not get cable in a lot of places.

“They either love us or they hate it,” Tebow said. “That’s the Gator Nation. They didn’t think I was worthy, but I get one more chance.”

And then he blamed Steve Spurrier for costing him the Heisman.

Not really.

But what he did say is that love 'em or hate 'em mentality started with “Spurrier’s swagger.” And that’s when I told Tebow the headline in our paper would read, “Tebow blames Spurrier for Heisman loss.”

“Only if you write it,” he said laughing.

Maybe the most alarming information we received in frigid New York Saturday night was that 127 ballots were received before the last weekend of the season. Tebow was well back in third place after those ballots came in. Then he went out and led Florida past No. 1 Alabama. Among the 777 ballots that were received after that game, Tebow was ahead of Colt McCoy and just a few points behind Bradford.

You vote before the season is over, you shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

And if that’s not enough to drive you Tebow fans crazy, how about this — 41 different players received third-place votes and 20 received second-place votes. That means there were a bunch of people wasting their votes to make a statement.

All that said, a lot of good can come from this. Maybe it's the spark that keeps Tebow at Florida for another year. Maybe it's enough to cause issues in the Bradford brain. Maybe it’s enough to motivate Florida over Oklahoma.

I leave you with this, something Tebow said Saturday night.

“Don’t rattle the fence.”

The fence has been rattled.

Told you there was good news.

Contact Pat Dooley at 352-374-5053 or dooleyp@gvillesun.com.

How the hell is Tebow not winning the Heisman being perceived by a snub? People in Florida need to get their head out of their asses. Hell, Bradford had TWENTY more TD passes than Tebow had. Bradford had a higher completion percentage and threw for almost 2000 yards more than Tebow. I'm not sure how the hell anyone in the state of Florida can genuinely believed Tebow got overlooked. I thought the fact that he was voted third was generous. We have some local high school QB's in this area who had more passing yards than Tebow had this season. He's a good college QB with slightly better than average numbers. Making this guy sound like he's some great (in terms of historical significance) is just silly. He's simply another guy who won a Heisman, just like Gino Torretta and Andre Ware. In the grand scheme of things, it means nothing.

[Enigma869]

PS- John, go fuck yourself. I am 11-1 in NFL picks and have Dallas to blow out the G men tonight.

Dude...you're spot on with your picks today. It's nice to see you in here making some picks. This board has missed your sports presence. Also, I need someone else to piss people off with me. It's been a lonely job going at it alone

[ScarabGator]

Oh boy, I knew it was gonna happen. Theyve awakened the sleeping giant again. From the Gainesville Sun:

Tebow’s snub adds BCS motivation

The Associated Press


Published: Saturday, December 13, 2008 at 11:48 p.m.
Last Modified: Saturday, December 13, 2008 at 11:48 p.m.
NEW YORK — Good news out of the Big Apple Saturday night.


Bradford takes Heisman
Tim Tebow didn’t win the Heisman.

Whaatt?!?

Yep, I’m saying it was good news.

Not for Tebow or his family. Back-to-back would have been unbelievable.

But for Florida’s chances of winning the BCS National Championship Game next month.

Sam Bradford will be the guy eating rubber chicken and posing for pictures and shaking thousands of sweaty palms over the next week. Bradford will be the guy being pounded with questions about the Heisman jinx. Four of the last five winners have lost their bowl games.

Gator fans wouldn’t mind if it became five of six.

Because for the second time ever, Heisman winners will face off and do it in Dolphins Stadium. OK, it was Pro Player Stadium when Jason White and Matt Leinart went head-to-head four years ago, but you get the drift. It’s kind of amazing that Heisman winners had never gone against each other and now will do it twice in five seasons.

So here’s what we got Saturday night.

1. The big game was injected with more juice because Bradford won the award.

2. Tebow was injected with an extra dose of motivation, like he needed it. He had that look. He doesn’t like losing at anything.

“Why get over it? Use it,” Tebow said. “I’ll be motivated enough. I think it’s more motivating for my teammates. They’re a little bit excited. I’ve already got a lot of text messages. I can’t share them but there were some good ones.”

Probably along the lines of, “We’ll show that guy who should have won the Heisman.”

We all remember what happened the last time Florida faced a Heisman Trophy winner.

3. More voters thought Tebow deserved to win the Heisman than any of the other quarterbacks. He received the most first-place votes. Must feel a little like Al Gore in 2000.

I asked Tebow if he took any solace in that.

“Not really,” he said. “If you lose, you lose.”

Let’s face it, folks, you don’t lose the Heisman Trophy. You just don’t win it. At least not this time.

But the good news I’m talking about is that Tebow is taking this like a loss. Maybe not in an Ole Miss way, but it’s there.

Just finishing third in a close vote was a pat-on-the-back achievement considering the way his numbers were dwarfed by the Big 12 quarterbacks. And the reason he didn’t win was that there were 154 voters who left him off the ballot.

Like I wrote Saturday, there was no wrong ballot, even if you left any of the three off because Graham Harrell was deserving as well. But the fact that there were 154 semi-educated voters who left Tebow off their ballots and 120 who dissed McCoy and 93 who snubbed Bradford tells you they must not get cable in a lot of places.

“They either love us or they hate it,” Tebow said. “That’s the Gator Nation. They didn’t think I was worthy, but I get one more chance.”

And then he blamed Steve Spurrier for costing him the Heisman.

Not really.

But what he did say is that love 'em or hate 'em mentality started with “Spurrier’s swagger.” And that’s when I told Tebow the headline in our paper would read, “Tebow blames Spurrier for Heisman loss.”

“Only if you write it,” he said laughing.

Maybe the most alarming information we received in frigid New York Saturday night was that 127 ballots were received before the last weekend of the season. Tebow was well back in third place after those ballots came in. Then he went out and led Florida past No. 1 Alabama. Among the 777 ballots that were received after that game, Tebow was ahead of Colt McCoy and just a few points behind Bradford.

You vote before the season is over, you shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

And if that’s not enough to drive you Tebow fans crazy, how about this — 41 different players received third-place votes and 20 received second-place votes. That means there were a bunch of people wasting their votes to make a statement.

All that said, a lot of good can come from this. Maybe it's the spark that keeps Tebow at Florida for another year. Maybe it's enough to cause issues in the Bradford brain. Maybe it’s enough to motivate Florida over Oklahoma.

I leave you with this, something Tebow said Saturday night.

“Don’t rattle the fence.”

The fence has been rattled.

Told you there was good news.

Contact Pat Dooley at 352-374-5053 or dooleyp@gvillesun.com.

How the hell is Tebow not winning the Heisman being perceived by a snub? People in Florida need to get their asses out of their head. Hell, Bradford had TWENTY more TD passes than Tebow had. Bradford had a higher completion percentage and threw for almost 2000 yards more than Tebow. I'm not sure how the hell anyone in the state of Florida can genuinely believed Tebow got overlooked. I thought the fact that he was voted third was generous. We have some local high school QB's in this area who had more passing yards than Tebow had this season. He's a good college QB with slightly better than average numbers. Making this guy sound like he's some great (in terms of historical significance) is just silly. He's simply another guy who won a Heisman, just like Gino Torretta and Andre Ware. In the grand scheme of things, it means nothing.

you need to verify how many top 20 ranked defenses each guy faced. Tebow had many more than these other guys. Why did the southwest leave him off their ballot? Thats what hurt him.

[Rick]

PS- John, go fuck yourself. I am 11-1 in NFL picks and have Dallas to blow out the G men tonight.

Dude...you're spot on with your picks today. It's nice to see you in here making some picks. This board has missed your sports presence. Also, I need someone else to piss people off with me. It's been a lonely job going at it alone

Yeah but you performed admirably.

[Enigma869]

Yeah but you performed admirably.

Thanks Buddy. I try, but there will only ever be one Dean on this board, and I'm probably the happiest person here that he's back.

[Enigma869]

you need to verify how many top 20 ranked defenses each guy faced. Tebow had many more than these other guys. Why did the southwest leave him off their ballot? Thats what hurt him.

Dude...I don't need to verify anything. As I said, the numbers simply aren't close. Bradford threw for almost double the yards and double the TD's than Tebow did. There isn't an argument anyone can make with a straight face that Tebow was more worthy of the award. Based on the fact that Tebow didn't even finish second, tells me that most agree with my assessment. In my opinion, Tebow was lucky to finish third.

As for a guy leaving him completely off the ballot, that happens ALL THE TIME in sports. Dustin Pedroia was completely left off of several MVP ballots this season in baseball and still won the award. Pedro Martiniez was left off of many ballots in 1999 when there was nobody a close second to him for the MVP and he still won it. The difference is that there were other guys in college football who had FAR better number than Tebow had. You need to understand that part of being a fan isn't actually believing that your guy and your team should always win everything, "just because". All sports teams deserve better fans than that. It's more than okay to support your team but when you lose all objectivity, it becomes embarrassing, regardless of which team you're pulling for. I have been a Patriots fan my entire life, and you'd never catch me telling anyone that someone on the Patriots is worthy of winning the MVP (or any other award) this season. I also think if they manage to get into the playoffs, that they'll be one and done. It's all about being honest about what the reality is.

[Tomulator]

you need to verify how many top 20 ranked defenses each guy faced. Tebow had many more than these other guys. Why did the southwest leave him off their ballot? Thats what hurt him.

Dude...I don't need to verify anything. As I said, the numbers simply aren't close. Bradford threw for almost double the yards and double the TD's than Tebow did. There isn't an argument anyone can make with a straight face that Tebow was more worthy of the award. Based on the fact that Tebow didn't even finish second, tells me that most agree with my assessment. In my opinion, Tebow was lucky to finish third.

As for a guy leaving him completely off the ballot, that happens ALL THE TIME in sports. Dustin Pedroia was completely left off of several MVP ballots this season in baseball and still won the award. Pedro Martiniez was left off of many ballots in 1999 when there was nobody a close second to him for the MVP and he still won it. The difference is that there were other guys in college football who had FAR better number than Tebow had. You need to understand that part of being a fan isn't actually believing that your guy and your team should always win everything, "just because". All sports teams deserve better fans than that. It's more than okay to support your team but when you lose all objectivity, it becomes embarrassing, regardless of which team you're pulling for. I have been a Patriots fan my entire life, and you'd never catch me telling anyone that someone on the Patriots is worthy of winning the MVP (or any other award) this season. I also think if they manage to get into the playoffs, that they'll be one and done. It's all about being honest about what the reality is.

The Pats suck.

[ScarabGator]

you need to verify how many top 20 ranked defenses each guy faced. Tebow had many more than these other guys. Why did the southwest leave him off their ballot? Thats what hurt him.

Dude...I don't need to verify anything. As I said, the numbers simply aren't close. Bradford threw for almost double the yards and double the TD's than Tebow did. There isn't an argument anyone can make with a straight face that Tebow was more worthy of the award. Based on the fact that Tebow didn't even finish second, tells me that most agree with my assessment. In my opinion, Tebow was lucky to finish third.

As for a guy leaving him completely off the ballot, that happens ALL THE TIME in sports. Dustin Pedroia was completely left off of several MVP ballots this season in baseball and still won the award. Pedro Martiniez was left off of many ballots in 1999 when there was nobody a close second to him for the MVP and he still won it. The difference is that there were other guys in college football who had FAR better number than Tebow had. You need to understand that part of being a fan isn't actually believing that your guy and your team should always win everything, "just because". All sports teams deserve better fans than that. It's more than okay to support your team but when you lose all objectivity, it becomes embarrassing, regardless of which team you're pulling for. I have been a Patriots fan my entire life, and you'd never catch me telling anyone that someone on the Patriots is worthy of winning the MVP (or any other award) this season. I also think if they manage to get into the playoffs, that they'll be one and done. It's all about being honest about what the reality is.

Then we'll agree to disagree and just see how the story ends.