Arianddu wrote:This is a load of horse shit! "Awoke other nations to the realization of the dangers and that we are at war" - you know what, he fucking dragged other nations into his stupid 'war on terror', lied about who was involved so he could settle his daddy's old score, and fucking created the terrorist war! Don't bother looking at why it happened, don't bother looking at who is possibly supporting Bin Laden and how you can change their minds about the US, oh no! Let's just use this as an excuse to fuck over Iraq - and give every person in the middle east who didn't really give a shit either way, certainly not enough to get involved, a real reason to hate and fear the West! And just to keep things sweet, let's refer to the fucking Crusades! 'Cause that's really going to help the Islamic world keep calm about it.
Try living in a country that deals with terrorism as more than a one off (and I'm not denegrating the terrible events on September 11th in the States in any way, so don't start). Look at attitude that the people in London and Madrid have. I lost count of the number of people I knew in London who rolled their eyes at the over-the-top declarations from Americans about how the US was standing by, and God Would Prevail. Because hey, it wasn't like it was the first time a bomb had gone off in London. And guess where the money for all the previous terrorist attacks on London came from? When the people of the USA stand up and appologise for 50+ years of sponsoring IRA terrorism in the UK, when they stand up and appologise for selling arms to most of the middle east (where the fuck do you think Iraq got its training and hardware from in the 80s?) and when they start looking long and hard at their own foreign policies and considering that maybe, just maybe, if your international dealings consist mainly of fucking over and railroading anyone whose opinion differs from yours then people are going to get pissed... then maybe you've got a right to start taking the high moral ground.
I don't condone what those fuckwits who took over the planes did, under any circumstances. But it would make a refreshing change to hear a bit of speculation coming out of the US about why people were so desperate to hit and hurt back.
And I am pissed off that that arse-licking, lying, ball-sucking, two faced fuckwit John Howard turned the Australian Defence forces into an invasion force, for the first time in our history, just so he could keep his nose firmly planted between Bush's buttcheeks.
How refreshing to see someone with some sense around here. You are so right my friend. I do not recall Americans bleating about terrorism when they were fundiing the IRA, a terrorist organisation! As Arianddu so astutely points out Americans were only too happy to supply Saddam Hussein with weapons when he was fighting Iran. It is a little hypocritical to start whining now. There is no denying the utter horror of 9-11, so don't even bother suggesting that I condone such a heinous crime, but maybe you should look a little closer to home for the reason of the attack. Remind me, how many of those terrorists were Iraqi?