Revelations sales totals

[Diffworlds]

I thought Revelation (new material) was Journey's most consistent effort since (and maybe even including) Rasied on Radio. I think most of the albums ROR-Generations have some stronger songs, but Revelations is the first of the CDs in that time frame that I can listen to and not skip a track or two wondering "What the hell were they thinking?" Revelations was fairly even balanced for my interest. So I am glad it sold well, especially given all the crap out there now.

[strangegrey]

Sunshower is a an old Augeri reject.
Faith In The Heartland was a generations retread (and a regression from the original)
What It Takes to Win has some of the worst fucking lyrics since I last had the stomach to listen to an Elton John record.
The Journey is crap and if I had to guess, is a Neal Schon solo record reject.

And some will argue that parts of Never Walk Away was stolen from JSS's Believe in Me. I'm not putting a dog into that fight, as I respect Jeremey and recognize that his contributions to the song were done without such consideration of the JSS track.

Even without the arguement on Never Walk Away, that's 4 songs out of 11 are rejects or shite...

[Rockindeano]

I didn't mean to say the record is shit. I am just saying they used the "crutch math" to get to platinum, and that is still a big if. I see it as a gold record, and nothing more. Maybe one of these days I will actually listen to it.

What would you all say if SP put out a 5 disc CD and sold 100,000 copies? It would be platinum, yes? You would all freak the fuck out.

[ProgRocker53]

I didn't mean to say the record is shit. I am just saying they used the "crutch math" to get to platinum, and that is still a big if. I see it as a gold record, and nothing more. Maybe one of these days I will actually listen to it.

What would you all say if SP put out a 5 disc CD and sold 100,000 copies? It would be platinum, yes? You would all freak the fuck out.

SP's 5-disc CD:

One disc of Motown covers
One disc of Blues covers
One disc of adult contemporary covers
One disc of minimalistic industrial beats and samples from German indie movies
One disc of duets with female country singers, from Dolly to Carrie

[amaron]

I didn't mean to say the record is shit. I am just saying they used the "crutch math" to get to platinum, and that is still a big if. I see it as a gold record, and nothing more. Maybe one of these days I will actually listen to it.

What would you all say if SP put out a 5 disc CD and sold 100,000 copies? It would be platinum, yes? You would all freak the fuck out.

SP's 5-disc CD:

One disc of Motown covers
One disc of Blues covers
One disc of adult contemporary covers
One disc of minimalistic industrial beats and samples from German indie movies
One disc of duets with female country singers, from Dolly to Carrie

The title?

"Steve Perry: The Unreleased Classics"

or

"Greatest Hits + 60 Unreleased"

or

"ALL YOUR CASH ARE BELONG TO ME"

or

"The album I was thinking about releasing for a long time"

or

"Steve Perry: The songs his cat loves"

or

"I cracked someone elses' stone"

[Rick]

I didn't mean to say the record is shit. I am just saying they used the "crutch math" to get to platinum, and that is still a big if. I see it as a gold record, and nothing more. Maybe one of these days I will actually listen to it.

What would you all say if SP put out a 5 disc CD and sold 100,000 copies? It would be platinum, yes? You would all freak the fuck out.

SP's 5-disc CD:

One disc of Motown covers
One disc of Blues covers
One disc of adult contemporary covers
One disc of minimalistic industrial beats and samples from German indie movies
One disc of duets with female country singers, from Dolly to Carrie

The title?

"Steve Perry: The Unreleased Classics"

or

"Greatest Hits + 60 Unreleased"

or

"ALL YOUR CASH ARE BELONG TO ME"

[PowerChords]

I didn't mean to say the record is shit. I am just saying they used the "crutch math" to get to platinum, and that is still a big if. I see it as a gold record, and nothing more. Maybe one of these days I will actually listen to it.

What would you all say if SP put out a 5 disc CD and sold 100,000 copies? It would be platinum, yes? You would all freak the fuck out.

He can't even put out a single disc let alone 5!

[Don]

I would think Perry gets some kind of royalty payment for Revelation, similar to Jeremey's deal because of his songwriting credits on one/third of the album.
Not that he needs the money but he need never put out any new work again when he continuously gets paid for his past achievements (and rightfully so).

[Rockindeano]

I would think Perry gets some kind of royalty payment for Revelation, similar to Jeremey's deal because of his songwriting credits on one/third of the album.
Not that he needs the money but he need never put out any new work again when he continuously gets paid for his past achievements (and rightfully so).

Perry is a genius.

[stevew2]

I would think Perry gets some kind of royalty payment for Revelation, similar to Jeremey's deal because of his songwriting credits on one/third of the album.
Not that he needs the money but he need never put out any new work again when he continuously gets paid for his past achievements (and rightfully so).

Perry is a genius.

I agree His was making a 6 th cut, while them fuckers were out there lippin and deep throuting singers

[Saint John]

What would you all say if SP put out a 5 disc CD and sold 100,000 copies? It would be platinum, yes? You would all freak the fuck out.

It would be Gold, Einstein. Platinum is for a million.

[Rockindeano]

What would you all say if SP put out a 5 disc CD and sold 100,000 copies? It would be platinum, yes? You would all freak the fuck out.

It would be Gold, Einstein. Platinum is for a million.

No. Dude you do the math. 2 discs for 500K = platinum. I would assume 3 discs at 333K, 250K for 4 discs and for a 5 disc set, it would equate to 200K. That may be totally wrong, but following the mathematic formula the 500K equals platinum 1,000,000/500K, I would be proven correct. Now feel free to kiss my asshole.

[AlteredDNA]

What would you all say if SP put out a 5 disc CD and sold 100,000 copies? It would be platinum, yes? You would all freak the fuck out.

It would be Gold, Einstein. Platinum is for a million.

No. Dude you do the math. 2 discs for 500K = platinum. I would assume 3 discs at 333K, 250K for 4 discs and for a 5 disc set, it would equate to 100K. That may be totally wrong, but following the mathematic formula the 500K equals platinum 1,000,000/500K, I would be proven correct. Now feel free to kiss my asshole.

You sure about that?

[Rockindeano]

What would you all say if SP put out a 5 disc CD and sold 100,000 copies? It would be platinum, yes? You would all freak the fuck out.

It would be Gold, Einstein. Platinum is for a million.

No. Dude you do the math. 2 discs for 500K = platinum. I would assume 3 discs at 333K, 250K for 4 discs and for a 5 disc set, it would equate to 100K. That may be totally wrong, but following the mathematic formula the 500K equals platinum 1,000,000/500K, I would be proven correct. Now feel free to kiss my asshole.

You sure about that?

No, I am not. However, the current formula, the one we know for certain is 2 disc set needs to sell 500K to be certified platinum. That formula takes 1Million divided by 2. With that structure, it would seem they would do the math consistently:

1M/2 =500K
1M/3 =333K
1M/4 =250K
1M/5 =200K

[Saint John]

What would you all say if SP put out a 5 disc CD and sold 100,000 copies? It would be platinum, yes? You would all freak the fuck out.

It would be Gold, Einstein. Platinum is for a million.

No. Dude you do the math. 2 discs for 500K = platinum. I would assume 3 discs at 333K, 250K for 4 discs and for a 5 disc set, it would equate to 200K. That may be totally wrong, but following the mathematic formula the 500K equals platinum 1,000,000/500K, I would be proven correct. Now feel free to kiss my asshole.

100,000X5 discs =500,000...which is Gold!!!

[Rockindeano]

100,000X5 discs =500,000...which is Gold!!!

Yeah, if sold separately dufus.

[Matthew]

Sunshower is a an old Augeri reject.
Faith In The Heartland was a generations retread (and a regression from the original)
What It Takes to Win has some of the worst fucking lyrics since I last had the stomach to listen to an Elton John record.
The Journey is crap and if I had to guess, is a Neal Schon solo record reject.

And some will argue that parts of Never Walk Away was stolen from JSS's Believe in Me. I'm not putting a dog into that fight, as I respect Jeremey and recognize that his contributions to the song were done without such consideration of the JSS track.

Even without the arguement on Never Walk Away, that's 4 songs out of 11 are rejects or shite...

Which represents a significant increase in quality on their previous three releases....

[G.I.Jim]

100,000X5 discs =500,000...which is Gold!!!

Yeah, if sold separately dufus.

Make it stop! Dean, you said if they sold 100,000 copies, it'd be platinum because they would each have 5 discs. That equals 500,000 total disks, which makes it GOLD. Platinum would require 1,000,000 disks to be sold which is double what you said. Are we clear soldier???

[Rockindeano]

100,000X5 discs =500,000...which is Gold!!!

Yeah, if sold separately dufus.

Make it stop! Dean, you said if they sold 100,000 copies, it'd be platinum because they would each have 5 discs. That equals 500,000 total disks, which makes it GOLD. Platinum would require 1,000,000 disks to be sold which is double what you said. Are we clear soldier???

I completely mistyped cocksucker. I meant 200K. That is on me. But what I thought Dan was saying was separate sales. Again, you caught me. It won't happen again.

[G.I.Jim]

100,000X5 discs =500,000...which is Gold!!!

Yeah, if sold separately dufus.

Make it stop! Dean, you said if they sold 100,000 copies, it'd be platinum because they would each have 5 discs. That equals 500,000 total disks, which makes it GOLD. Platinum would require 1,000,000 disks to be sold which is double what you said. Are we clear soldier???

I completely mistyped cocksucker. I meant 200K. That is on me. But what I thought Dan was saying was separate sales. Again, you caught me. It won't happen again.

Did Dan shit in your Cornflakes again?

[Don]

I think Deano was using Revelation math, 5 original discs with 5 retread discs packed in also.

[stevew2]

I think Deano was using Revelation math, 5 original discs with 5 retread discs packed in also. yo

you mean retard discs

[Don]

I think Deano was using Revelation math, 5 original discs with 5 retread discs packed in also. yo

you mean retard discs

I like that. Retard discs they shall be for all future references.

[JohnH]

Putting FITH on the first disc like it's original was corny, considering the second disc was declared the re-recorded material. If Cain has 400 songs on his computer, he couldn't pull up at least one more to make the first disc all new material?

It was only corny to us. None of the casual fans had heard it because nobody bought Generations. It was included in the concert ticket prices and was distributed to the concert goers, but how many people is that?

It's a great song that deserves to be heard, and that would have never happened leaving it on Generations. My opinion anyway.

[strangegrey]

Putting FITH on the first disc like it's original was corny, considering the second disc was declared the re-recorded material. If Cain has 400 songs on his computer, he couldn't pull up at least one more to make the first disc all new material?

It was only corny to us. None of the casual fans had heard it because nobody bought Generations. It was included in the concert ticket prices and was distributed to the concert goers, but how many people is that?

It's a great song that deserves to be heard, and that would have never happened leaving it on Generations. My opinion anyway.

They said on Rockline it was the producer's idea. The song isn't the best one on Generations- I skip it every time on the new album.

Yeah, good ole Cavedrunk...fucking guy probably thought he could get a few more bottles of sterno left over from Neal's 12th wedding, if he convinced Neal that he didn't have to write anymore music...and just reuse old shit.

Less time writing = more time banging french waitresses...

[jrnyjetster]

Sunshower is a an old Augeri reject.

I don't see any Augeri writing credits on that song.....

Ya know, one minute you're singing Revelation's praises and the next minute it's shit...make up your fucking mind.

[Don]

Sunshower is a an old Augeri reject.

I don't see any Augeri writing credits on that song.....

Ya know, one minute you're singing Revelation's praises and the next minute it's shit...make up your fucking mind.

I think he was saying that It was written when Augeri was with the band, not necessarily written by Augeri. Anyway the band's not promoting their album anymore and barely promoted it with their concert setlist, deciding to add even older Perry tracks late in the tour instead of taking a chance and playing more Revelation cuts. If auditing the numbers is only 400 dollars, why don't they do it? It can't hurt to have the little platinum emblem next to it on Billboard's site (unless there really is some inconsistancy in the numbers that's not being reported). All the other artists that hit platinum with releases from the the same time frame have got their certification done. Maybe the retard discs are the problem here.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

Sunshower is a an old Augeri reject.

I don't see any Augeri writing credits on that song.....

Doesn't have to be written by Augeri to be from the Arrival sessions...

[jrnyjetster]

Doesn't have to be written by Augeri to be from the Arrival sessions...

And how do you know this song was originally written for Arrival?

[Don]

Doesn't have to be written by Augeri to be from the Arrival sessions...

And how do you know this song was originally written for Arrival?

Strangegrey worked in some type of capacity for Journey so I think he probably knows, if any one does.