Official NFL Week 16&17 Thread+Playoffs&Predictions

[YoungJRNY]

Chargers still have another chance to choke next week. It's part of the culture in Mexico's finest city. Baseball, football, doesn't matter. Zero championships. Even my pathetic Philly teams have a few rings at least in Baseball, hockey and basketball.

Something tells me Philly is going all the way this year.

First PA Superbowl in league history.

Pittsburgh vs Philadelphia

[Don]

Chargers still have another chance to choke next week. It's part of the culture in Mexico's finest city. Baseball, football, doesn't matter. Zero championships. Even my pathetic Philly teams have a few rings at least in Baseball, hockey and basketball.

Something tells me Philly is going all the way this year.

First PA Superbowl in league history.

Pittsburgh vs Philadelphia

As long as McNugget doesn't get a stomach ache in the fourth quarter, we'll have a chance.

[Enigma869]

As long as McNugget doesn't get a stomach ache in the fourth quarter, we'll have a chance.

Hey, at least McNabb doesn't pull himself out of big games like that stiff Tomlinson does season after season. This fucker invents a new injury every season. It's a fucking embarrassment to the NFL!

[ttango1]

He has a 2nd Degree Groin Strain per the media here in San Diego-

A second-degree groin sprain involves stretched tendons, stretched or torn muscle fibres, and often bruising of the hip bone and its muscular attachments. They are usually symptomatic for two to three weeks. Lastly, a third-degree groin pull is represented by many ruptured muscle fibres, severely stretched tendons, and perhaps separation of a tendon from either its muscle or bony attachment. Symptoms can persist for six to eight weeks - or even longer.

The fact that the guy played and scored is a testament to him trying to give it his all. Sproles is the Swiss-Army Knife of Running Backs.

I'm just saying that when an 8-8 team beats a playoff team on a 9 game win streak, that garners some respect. Except for haters like...well you know.

Oh and SJ, that defensive holding was when Jennings pulled Chambers left shoulder pad and altered his route. That was the call to make. Had the ball been in the air at that time, then it was an easy PI.

It's on to wherever and the Chargers have shown that they can play either team tough-as-nails.

[Rockindeano]

As long as McNugget doesn't get a stomach ache in the fourth quarter, we'll have a chance.

Hey, at least McNabb doesn't pull himself out of big games like that stiff Tomlinson does season after season. This fucker invents a new injury every season. It's a fucking embarrassment to the NFL!

I agree and I don't agree. This guy is in the NFL not the NBA. Take the needle, take the pills, play already. But now, I hear Norv Turner chose to sit him out..Hmm. Now, don't look LT, but this 5'6" midget Sproles is the little engine that can. Amazing little fucker. He just earned a huge raise next year.

San Diego will go to Pittsburgh or Nashville and win.

[Rockindeano]

You can disrupt the receivers route within 5 yards as long as the ball is not in the air. The ref called "holding" and there was no holding, so he deemed the contact legal, but found a fantom holding call. Weird to say the least.

Watch it again Ray Charles. He chucked him once in the 5 yd buffer, which like you said is legal, then clearly held his left pad. You'll see on Sportscenter tomorrow morning when your Keystone Ice Light wears off.

[WIX]

Super Bowl

Chargers 38
Carolina 17

[Maui Tom]

Super Bowl

Chargers 38
Carolina 17

go to bed you drunken spud.....

[YoungJRNY]

As long as McNugget doesn't get a stomach ache in the fourth quarter, we'll have a chance.

Hey, at least McNabb doesn't pull himself out of big games like that stiff Tomlinson does season after season. This fucker invents a new injury every season. It's a fucking embarrassment to the NFL!

I agree and I don't agree. This guy is in the NFL not the NBA. Take the needle, take the pills, play already. But now, I hear Norv Turner chose to sit him out..Hmm. Now, don't look LT, but this 5'6" midget Sproles is the little engine that can. Amazing little fucker. He just earned a huge raise next year.

San Diego will go to Pittsburgh or Nashville and win.

You're going to see the Charger team next week that beat the lowly Chiefs by 1 point in each of their meetings. I believe they will be coming to Pittsburgh, and I'll promise you that the penalties during that game won't benefit San Diego like it did in the first meeting of 13-1, and esp during a Stillers drive that should of resulted in a touchdown. The Steelers should of won the first meeting by atleast 14 points.

..Still not sleeping on Miami over Baltimore though. Wherever the Chargers go whether it's Tenn or Pitt, I think they lose big. Can't wait 'til tomorrow.

[Ehwmatt]

Sproles was incredible. I'm disappointed to see Indy go down, they were my sleeper Super Bowl favorite. I kinda figured whoever got the ball first in OT was gonna win the way both Ds were performing towards the end of the game. As we see time and time again in pro sports, it's all about match-ups. Chargers get dusted next round, Colts coulda gone all the way if they got past this challenge. Oh well.

BTW, what do you guys think of that holding call? Questionable at best. Face masking was dumb, but that woulda never come up if holding wasn't called.

[Ehwmatt]

You can disrupt the receivers route within 5 yards as long as the ball is not in the air. The ref called "holding" and there was no holding, so he deemed the contact legal, but found a fantom holding call. Weird to say the least.

Watch it again Ray Charles. He chucked him once in the 5 yd buffer, which like you said is legal, then clearly held his left pad. You'll see on Sportscenter tomorrow morning when your Keystone Ice Light wears off.

Keystone Ice Light? That can't be possible

[YoungJRNY]

Sproles was incredible. I'm disappointed to see Indy go down, they were my sleeper Super Bowl favorite. I kinda figured whoever got the ball first in OT was gonna win the way both Ds were performing towards the end of the game. As we see time and time again in pro sports, it's all about match-ups. Chargers get dusted next round, Colts coulda gone all the way if they got past this challenge. Oh well.

BTW, what do you guys think of that holding call? Questionable at best. Face masking was dumb, but that woulda never come up if holding wasn't called.

The call was legit, and so was the other 2 crucial penalties on the game winning drive. The Colts played dumb ass football at the end, and it cost them a trip to the Divisional Round.

[Saint John]

Sproles was incredible. I'm disappointed to see Indy go down, they were my sleeper Super Bowl favorite. I kinda figured whoever got the ball first in OT was gonna win the way both Ds were performing towards the end of the game. As we see time and time again in pro sports, it's all about match-ups. Chargers get dusted next round, Colts coulda gone all the way if they got past this challenge. Oh well.

BTW, what do you guys think of that holding call? Questionable at best. Face masking was dumb, but that woulda never come up if holding wasn't called.

The call was legit, and so was the other 2 crucial penalties on the game winning drive. The Colts played dumb ass football at the end, and it cost them a trip to the Divisional Round.

The Chargers were offside on 3 different occasions that the refs didn't deem penalties. One play, the guy was 2 yards in the backfield...weird shit.

[Rockindeano]

You're going to see the Charger team next week that beat the lowly Chiefs by 1 point in each of their meetings.

And you are touting a team that beat "lowly San Diego" by a single point at home, on a controversial call?

I like SD by 10.

[Ehwmatt]

You're going to see the Charger team next week that beat the lowly Chiefs by 1 point in each of their meetings.

And you are touting a team that beat "lowly San Diego" by a single point at home, on a controversial call?

I like SD by 10.

As much as I'd love to see it happen, it's hard to imagine. Although, with that said, it only takes one off day on defense to end the Steelers stellar season really quick. It's tough when you can barely rely on your offense or even your special teams come playoff time.

But here's hoping you're right

[YoungJRNY]

You're going to see the Charger team next week that beat the lowly Chiefs by 1 point in each of their meetings.

And you are touting a team that beat "lowly San Diego" by a single point at home, on a controversial call?

I like SD by 10.

Like I said, Pittsburgh should of won that game by 14 points, maybe even 21 if our bone-headed offense doesn't get stuff at the goaline. Hines Ward was called on 2 holding penalties on a big Steelers drive, and there was another bad call on holding during Willie Parkers TD run on the last drive. Pittsburgh had to settle for a FG to go up by one.

The Steelers were penalized 13 times to San Diego's 1, all called on drives were the Steelers moved the ball down the field.

Then we all know about the lateral's at the end of the game. Polamalu should of got credited for 6.

Steelers, or the Titans will win this game by 13 points or more.

[Rockindeano]

You're going to see the Charger team next week that beat the lowly Chiefs by 1 point in each of their meetings.

And you are touting a team that beat "lowly San Diego" by a single point at home, on a controversial call?

I like SD by 10.

As much as I'd love to see it happen, it's hard to imagine. Although, with that said, it only takes one off day on defense to end the Steelers stellar season really quick. It's tough when you can barely rely on your offense or even your special teams come playoff time.

But here's hoping you're right

Barely rely on special teams? Did you not see the punter Scifres tonight? He was MVP with along with Sproles. Kaeding is one of the top kickers in this league. And the offense is fine.

That game in Pittsburgh earlier was 11-10, and Pittsburgh didn't score a single touchdown.

On the flip side, SD has never ever won in Steel City. This week if they go there, they will win. I am quite confident they can and will beat Tennessee, if that's who they draw.

[YoungJRNY]

You're going to see the Charger team next week that beat the lowly Chiefs by 1 point in each of their meetings.

And you are touting a team that beat "lowly San Diego" by a single point at home, on a controversial call?

I like SD by 10.

As much as I'd love to see it happen, it's hard to imagine. Although, with that said, it only takes one off day on defense to end the Steelers stellar season really quick. It's tough when you can barely rely on your offense or even your special teams come playoff time.

But here's hoping you're right

The Steelers did have their one off day, against Tennessee. Defense is a MURDEROUS weapon in post-season football, and the way my unit plays ball.. all the offense needs to do is take care of the football.

Holy SHIT , I can't wait

[Ehwmatt]

You're going to see the Charger team next week that beat the lowly Chiefs by 1 point in each of their meetings.

And you are touting a team that beat "lowly San Diego" by a single point at home, on a controversial call?

I like SD by 10.

As much as I'd love to see it happen, it's hard to imagine. Although, with that said, it only takes one off day on defense to end the Steelers stellar season really quick. It's tough when you can barely rely on your offense or even your special teams come playoff time.

But here's hoping you're right

Barely rely on special teams? Did you not see the punter Scifres tonight? He was MVP with along with Sproles. Kaeding is one of the top kickers in this league. And the offense is fine.

That game in Pittsburgh earlier was 11-10, and Pittsburgh didn't score a single touchdown.

On the flip side, SD has never ever won in Steel City. This week if they go there, they will win. I am quite confident they can and will beat Tennessee, if that's who they draw.

I was referring to the Steelers man. If their D has an off day/meltdown, offense/special teams aren't there to prop up much in a ramped up playoff atmosphere...

[ttango1]

On the flip side, SD has never ever won in Steel City. This week if they go there, they will win. I am quite confident they can and will beat Tennessee, if that's who they draw.

http://www.steelersgab.com/2008/11/15/t ... -memories/

Chargers-Steelers games always bring up the worst memories for me. Yes for younger fans, you may remember the great Monday night win a few years back, but for those a bit older, you remember two painful Chargers-Steelers game. One of which was the 1982 AFC Tournament in which Dan Fouts came into Three Rivers against Terry Bradshaw and beat the Steelers with Kellen Winslow, and no, the dad, not the son.

But it was the game in 1994 that to me always will live in the depths of being the toughest loss I have ever endured as a Steelers follower. That 12-4 team was one of, if not the best Steelers team that I had ever seen. While there offense was nothing special (what else is new?), the defense was simply awesome.

Greg Lloyd, Kevin Greene, Rod Woodson, Chad Brown, Ray Seals, Brenston Buckner, Carnell Lake and others led that top ranked defense to the title game. They led the league in sacks, got turnovers in bunches, and made plays that to this day still make highlight films. If they would have went to the Super Bowl and/or won it, that D would still get props today.


Instead, it was that D in the end and their aggressive nature that let them down in the end. They dominated that Chargers AFC Title game at Three Rivers, yet Stan Humphries, in my opinion the worst starting QB ever in a Super Bowl, made two big plays to beat that D 17-13.

So, yeah the Bolts have won in Stiller town.

[Enigma869]

He has a 2nd Degree Groin Strain per the media here in San Diego-

A second-degree groin sprain involves stretched tendons, stretched or torn muscle fibres, and often bruising of the hip bone and its muscular attachments. They are usually symptomatic for two to three weeks. Lastly, a third-degree groin pull is represented by many ruptured muscle fibres, severely stretched tendons, and perhaps separation of a tendon from either its muscle or bony attachment. Symptoms can persist for six to eight weeks - or even longer.

The fact that the guy played and scored is a testament to him trying to give it his all. Sproles is the Swiss-Army Knife of Running Backs.

I'm just saying that when an 8-8 team beats a playoff team on a 9 game win streak, that garners some respect. Except for haters like...well you know.

Oh and SJ, that defensive holding was when Jennings pulled Chambers left shoulder pad and altered his route. That was the call to make. Had the ball been in the air at that time, then it was an easy PI.

It's on to wherever and the Chargers have shown that they can play either team tough-as-nails.

Save the pity "woe is me" Tomlinson articles that come out EVERY season after a playoff game. They are fucking embarrassing. I watched Tomlinson walk into Qualcomm before the game with ZERO discernable limp and walking about 5 mph. I played football long enough to know that ANYONE with a "2nd degree groin strain" (another made up condition to make Tomlinson seem like a hero for trying to play) isn't walking as freely, and without a limp, as Tomlinson did. I also know that if he was truly injured (there is a difference betweeen hurt and injured and everyone in the NFL is hurt every week), he wouldn't have gone out and averaged 5 yards a carry. Again, Turner AND the Charger trainer told Kreamer at halftime that there was absolutely no medical reason that Tomlinson wasn't in the game. Prior to the game, a story surfaced that Tomlinson had a separated tendon in his groin area, and Turner vehemently denied it an interview and said Tomlinson's injury was "minor". The guy is a big fucking pussy who doesn't belong in the NFL. Phillip Rivers was injured last season and still stuck it out the entire New England playoff game, while his Ladanian Pussy sat on the sidelines. I gained a whole lot of respect of Rivers in that game. Tomlinson needs to hang it up and go take up basket weaving. If the fans of the Chargers are really letting this guy off the hook, then shame on them. He would be crucified in EVERY other city for pulling himself out of every playoff game! Someone got in Turner's ear after the game and said "Gee, you told NBC at the half that Tomlinson wasn't out of the game due to his injury, and that really doesn't make him look good. Perhaps we need to float a story that the guys leg is basically hanging off so he doesn't look like the Mary Poppins Pussy that he is"!

On another note, I don't like this matchup for the Steelers, AT ALL. The Steelers have an AWFUL offense. As good as their defense is, it's going to take about 21 points to beat the Chargers, and I'm not sure the Steelers offense is even capable of scoring that many points. All Pittsburgh can hope for is some horrendous weather to give them an advantage. If San Diego flies east to 40 degrees and sunny, I think it's one and done for Pittsburgh, and this fraud Chargers team moves on yet again!

[X factor]

Dammit I KNEW the Chargers were gonna do this!



...(sigh) No one EVER listens to me...

[YoungJRNY]

On another note, I don't like this matchup for the Steelers, AT ALL. The Steelers have an AWFUL offense. As good as their defense is, it's going to take about 21 points to beat the Chargers, and I'm not sure the Steelers offense is even capable of scoring that many points. All Pittsburgh can hope for is some horrendous weather to give them an advantage. If San Diego flies east to 40 degrees and sunny, I think it's one and done for Pittsburgh, and this fraud Chargers team moves on yet again!

You DO know that Miami and Baltimore still has to play, right? Don't sleep on Miami possibly making a trip to Pittsburgh next week.

I agree with you that the Chargers are a fraud of a team, but at the same time, scary. I'm stickin' by it and think no matter who they play, they lose.

[Enigma869]

You DO know that Miami and Baltimore still has to play, right? Don't sleep on Miami possibly making a trip to Pittsburgh next week.

Yes, and I think Miami is a FAR better matchup for Pittsburgh, so that's who you should be pulling for. Now that I know it's over 80 degrees in Miami today, I am thinking Miami is going to give Baltimore all they can handle. I still think Baltimore wins a close game though.

[Saint John]

I need Baltimore to win by more than 4. That's all I'm gonna say.

[Ehwmatt]

Does the game commentary on CBS sound like a distant transistor radio reception for anyone else? I'm going back and forth between the Cavs and the Dolphins/Ravens and the difference in volume/fidelity is astonishing. Plus, the commercials sound fine, just seems to be the game.

[Saint John]

Ed Reed is the most dominant defensive play/game changer since Lawrence Taylor. That dude is fucking amazing.

[YoungJRNY]

Ed Reed is the most dominant defensive play/game changer since Lawrence Taylor. That dude is fucking amazing.

Every week, it seems, this fucker is running back fumbles, INT's , and strips, for like 115 yards. He's a gamer.

[Saint John]

I think benching Tomlinson was brilliant. He's simply not better than Sproles at this point in his career. If LT plays the whole game Indy wins.

[Rockindeano]

I think benching Tomlinson was brilliant. He's simply not better than Sproles at this point in his career. If LT plays the whole game Indy wins.

What a laughable statement, and yet...I agree 100%.