Journey Tour Partner In 2009

[Rockindeano]

I wouldn't want to see Journey tour with any band that is better than they are.....Which pretty much leaves nobody to tour with.

Maybe that's why BA won't happen. They would show Journey up.

You know, that's happened before...back on the dead13 tour, they had a band called Silvertide open up. I dont think they're around anymore...but fuck me in the ass with a rusty chainsaw, Silvertide completely kicked Journey's ass from here to Guam. Silvertide was a hard rocking black crowes like band...raw, energetic, in your face.

The contrast between Journey and Silvertide was too much for Journey to handle in my opinion...you have this acdc/black crowes- bombastic band come out and just fucking rule...then journey comes out, all glossy and lipped up.....it made Journey look fake. It's like walking into a skanky room and watching two girls go at it...and you get to see and smell all of it, from a few feet away. Then you're led away into a nice, perfectly manicured room where you're shown a soft porn video of a man screwing a boring, uninterested woman under the covers thats safe enough to be shown on late night network tv.

Personally, I think BA would offer this same contrast, but not as rank. You've got a raw band that plays with 100% feel...and then you've got Journey, with 3/4 of the music pre-recorded and the other half locked into a click. It doesn't work. Journey needs to find an opening act that's, dare I say, as processed (er....translation, fake) as they are.

Dude, on the Main Event Tour, Journey closed every show and was definitely the worst of the three bands. Most agree with that. I was in denial but the truth is the thruth. REO was superb and Styx blew their doors off.

Amen! I took a few people and I had front row center seats...AWESOME show, but Journey sucked ass that night with ZERO energy or personality. They were definitely on cruise-control. I was blown away by Styx and REO though (except for Kevin Cronin's boring ass rants about everything!). VERY cool night, and probably my favorite concert ever.

Lipping had just begun then, albeit on just a few numbers.

[T-TIME]

I have to chime in here. After the year Journey has had there is no possible way that they can take a step back with BA. They either have to add a younger up and coming group to open or a similar act that still has relevance. B A is a horrible choice. That would be snooze fest. Arnel doesn't have to be worried about being showed up by anyone. He completely wins everybody over from the first song. He is a true superstar. I don't know if he has any writing skills but he will be held back by the constant repeat of the playlist. After all this rambling, My personal choice would be the Goo Goo Dolls. They was never really a headliner but still brings down the house. They have a worthy choice of songs and would also appeal to the same "Journey" crowd and more. To me that tour would be sweet.

[Rick]

Looks like there won't be a new album released until 2010. I'm not going to go see them until that time. I'll probably see them and take in a Perry show, if he tours in support of the new record that madsplash speaks of.

[DrFU]

I have to chime in here. After the year Journey has had there is no possible way that they can take a step back with BA. They either have to add a younger up and coming group to open or a similar act that still has relevance. B A is a horrible choice. That would be snooze fest. Arnel doesn't have to be worried about being showed up by anyone. He completely wins everybody over from the first song. He is a true superstar. I don't know if he has any writing skills but he will be held back by the constant repeat of the playlist. After all this rambling, My personal choice would be the Goo Goo Dolls. They was never really a headliner but still brings down the house. They have a worthy choice of songs and would also appeal to the same "Journey" crowd and more. To me that tour would be sweet.

Well said, Tony. On all points.

BA with Def Lep a couple of years ago was just ... weird. I left in the middle of his set, which I never do, but him following the Leps was underwhelming.

Heart, CT, & Journey this past year were a blast; I hope they figure out a way to take a step forward rather than back also.

[Rick]

I have to chime in here. After the year Journey has had there is no possible way that they can take a step back with BA. They either have to add a younger up and coming group to open or a similar act that still has relevance. B A is a horrible choice. That would be snooze fest. Arnel doesn't have to be worried about being showed up by anyone. He completely wins everybody over from the first song. He is a true superstar. I don't know if he has any writing skills but he will be held back by the constant repeat of the playlist. After all this rambling, My personal choice would be the Goo Goo Dolls. They was never really a headliner but still brings down the house. They have a worthy choice of songs and would also appeal to the same "Journey" crowd and more. To me that tour would be sweet.

Well said, Tony. On all points.

BA with Def Lep a couple of years ago was just ... weird. I left in the middle of his set, which I never do, but him following the Leps was underwhelming.

Heart, CT, & Journey this past year were a blast; I hope they figure out a way to take a step forward rather than back also.

Heart and Journey were a perfect match, I think. I hope they join up again in the future.

[Jana]

I have to chime in here. After the year Journey has had there is no possible way that they can take a step back with BA. They either have to add a younger up and coming group to open or a similar act that still has relevance. B A is a horrible choice. That would be snooze fest. Arnel doesn't have to be worried about being showed up by anyone. He completely wins everybody over from the first song. He is a true superstar. I don't know if he has any writing skills but he will be held back by the constant repeat of the playlist. After all this rambling, My personal choice would be the Goo Goo Dolls. They was never really a headliner but still brings down the house. They have a worthy choice of songs and would also appeal to the same "Journey" crowd and more. To me that tour would be sweet.

Well said, Tony. On all points.

BA with Def Lep a couple of years ago was just ... weird. I left in the middle of his set, which I never do, but him following the Leps was underwhelming.

Heart, CT, & Journey this past year were a blast; I hope they figure out a way to take a step forward rather than back also.

Heart and Journey were a perfect match, I think. I hope they join up again in the future.

You'all are so right. I loved Journey and Heart. What a great concert. I do hope I have the opportunity to see them together again.

[Rockindeano]

I have to chime in here. After the year Journey has had there is no possible way that they can take a step back with BA. They either have to add a younger up and coming group to open or a similar act that still has relevance. B A is a horrible choice. That would be snooze fest. Arnel doesn't have to be worried about being showed up by anyone. He completely wins everybody over from the first song. He is a true superstar. I don't know if he has any writing skills but he will be held back by the constant repeat of the playlist. After all this rambling, My personal choice would be the Goo Goo Dolls. They was never really a headliner but still brings down the house. They have a worthy choice of songs and would also appeal to the same "Journey" crowd and more. To me that tour would be sweet.

Are you on Meth?

Dude, Journey will never not play it safe. That's just who they are. BA if he plays with them, which I say no he won't, will play his rockers, which are better than Journey's. Arnel, who is awesome, is NOT a superstar. You have got to be kidding me. He isn't close. Can he be? Sure. He has great chops and am even better attitude. But BA is so much more talented, seasoned and just better, that Journey might want to rethink this.

BTW, I have told Dan his sources are full of shit on this. BA won't do this. He only tours 1-12 days a month. He is a professional photogapher and a writer now, so he spaces out his workload.

Mind you T-Time, I am NOT a Journey hater. I love Arnel, despise Neal and Friga, but don't exist here to bash, but to tell it like it is. You put Journey up against a rocked out Adams, Journey gets eaten alive, period.

[JRNYFan]

Saint John, I hope you are right! That would be a dream show for me! Who are your sources on this one?

[Don]

I wouldn't want to see Journey tour with any band that is better than they are.....Which pretty much leaves nobody to tour with.

Maybe that's why BA won't happen. They would show Journey up.

You know, that's happened before...back on the dead13 tour, they had a band called Silvertide open up. I dont think they're around anymore...but fuck me in the ass with a rusty chainsaw, Silvertide completely kicked Journey's ass from here to Guam. Silvertide was a hard rocking black crowes like band...raw, energetic, in your face.

The contrast between Journey and Silvertide was too much for Journey to handle in my opinion...you have this acdc/black crowes- bombastic band come out and just fucking rule...then journey comes out, all glossy and lipped up.....it made Journey look fake. It's like walking into a skanky room and watching two girls go at it...and you get to see and smell all of it, from a few feet away. Then you're led away into a nice, perfectly manicured room where you're shown a soft porn video of a man screwing a boring, uninterested woman under the covers thats safe enough to be shown on late night network tv.

Personally, I think BA would offer this same contrast, but not as rank. You've got a raw band that plays with 100% feel...and then you've got Journey, with 3/4 of the music pre-recorded and the other half locked into a click. It doesn't work. Journey needs to find an opening act that's, dare I say, as processed (er....translation, fake) as they are.

The first time I ever saw Journey, they were opening for the Stones at JFK. George Thorogood comes out and blows the crowd away being a local boy and all that. Journey comes out and the next thing you know beer bottles are flying. They were trying to promote Escape but the Stones crowd wasn't having any of it. Luckily Foriegner just played an uptempo setlist to try and avoid beer bottles themselves. Certain groups don't mix well. Six months later when I saw Journey again, Scandal and Greg Kihn opened for them, a lot safer matchup.

[Blueskies]

Saint John, I hope you are right! That would be a dream show for me! Who are your sources on this one?

Given his previous track record on info and predictions I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

[Rockindeano]

Saint John, I hope you are right! That would be a dream show for me! Who are your sources on this one?

Yeah, anxiously awaiting his response.

[Don]

If they continue with the same setlist they played on this tour (only 3 or 4 songs from Revelation), how many of you are going to go see them again if they have a no name opening act? Not I.

[Rockindeano]

If they continue with the same setlist they played on this tour (only 3 or 4 songs from Revelation), how many of you are going to go see them again if they have a no name opening act? Not I.

My guess would be 80% of these folks will see them again. But you really think they will change their set? LOl, no way. This time they won't play anything from Revelations.

[Don]

If they continue with the same setlist they played on this tour (only 3 or 4 songs from Revelation), how many of you are going to go see them again if they have a no name opening act? Not I.

My guess would be 80% of these folks will see them again. But you really think they will change their set? LOl, no way. This time they won't play anything from Revelations.

I predict a 30% drop off in attendance this go around. No Ellen, no CBS sob story, no new album hype, means less tickets sold unless they are the opening act for U2 or Bon Jovi.

[Don]

Is the Asian tour 10 shows? Anybody know?

[Jana]

If they continue with the same setlist they played on this tour (only 3 or 4 songs from Revelation), how many of you are going to go see them again if they have a no name opening act? Not I.

My guess would be 80% of these folks will see them again. But you really think they will change their set? LOl, no way. This time they won't play anything from Revelations.

I'll see them . And I predict they sing Turn Down The World Tonight and What It Takes to Win. Unfortunately, I agree with you. They're not going to change up the setlist much. What a shame. I hope I'm wrong.

[Rockindeano]

If they continue with the same setlist they played on this tour (only 3 or 4 songs from Revelation), how many of you are going to go see them again if they have a no name opening act? Not I.

My guess would be 80% of these folks will see them again. But you really think they will change their set? LOl, no way. This time they won't play anything from Revelations.

I predict a 30% drop off in attendance this go around. No Ellen, no CBS sob story, no new album hype, means less tickets sold unless they are the opening act for U2 or Bon Jovi.

Bon Jovi and U2 don't have opening acts.

Neal needs a comparable band to go out with. He wants Santana but Carlos said no. BA will probably say no. Who's left? Survivor? LOL, they suck. Styx? Ok, nice matchup. REO? They suck. He is running out of partners. He need sPerry back so they can go it alone. Sucks to be Neal.

You watch, they will get somebody like Eddie Money or Steve Miller Band.

What they should do is go get a band like Train or Five for Fighting.

[Rockindeano]

If they continue with the same setlist they played on this tour (only 3 or 4 songs from Revelation), how many of you are going to go see them again if they have a no name opening act? Not I.

My guess would be 80% of these folks will see them again. But you really think they will change their set? LOl, no way. This time they won't play anything from Revelations.

I'll see them . And I predict they sing Turn Down The World Tonight and What It Takes to Win. Unfortunately, I agree with you. They're not going to change up the setlist much. What a shame. I hope I'm wrong.

Really? Why spend the money to see the same old thing again? Go buy the DVD and a new TV. Same difference.

[Don]

If they continue with the same setlist they played on this tour (only 3 or 4 songs from Revelation), how many of you are going to go see them again if they have a no name opening act? Not I.

My guess would be 80% of these folks will see them again. But you really think they will change their set? LOl, no way. This time they won't play anything from Revelations.

I'll see them . And I predict they sing Turn Down The World Tonight and What It Takes to Win. Unfortunately, I agree with you. They're not going to change up the setlist much. What a shame. I hope I'm wrong.

During the 80's they played 6 or 7 songs off the current album they were touring for. Why pay a hundred bucks to see what I saw 25 years ago when it was new? I hate TBF but if they would play 4 or 5 songs off of it, I might go just because it was fresh. This time though, with no Heart joining them, I think it will be different.They'll havethe filipinos there, but Idon't think people realise how important the Wilson sisters were to this last tour. If you have never seen them, by all means go, Arnel is fantastic live. If it the dirty dozen again though, I would think a lot of people will pass and wait for the new album.

[Rockindeano]

During the 80's they played 6 or 7 songs off the current album they were touring for. Why pay a hundred bucks to see what I saw 25 years ago when it was new? I hate TBF but if they would play 4 or 5 songs off of it, I might go just because it was fresh. This time though, with no Heart joining them, I think it will be different.They'll havethe filipinos there, but Idon't think people realise how important the Wilson sisters were to this last tour. If you have never seen them, by all means go, Arnel is fantastic live. If it the dirty dozen again though, I would think a lot of people will pass and wait for the new album.

Great points.

The Wilson sisters are fantastic.

The problem I have with the Filipinos is their lack of respect for the legacy. They only know Arnel and don't give three shits about the man Journey is famous for: Perry.

The real big plus Journey has going for them is they have such a vast history, and there are bunches who haven't seen them in eons...thy will always have folks show up...even if the show is stale as 4 week old piss....which it is.

Jon and Neal don't know ow to treat their fans and frankly don't give shit about them, because the keep coming to their shows.. They're like the Cubs fans. they support a losing team year after year. Why?

If Journey were smart, they would do free shows or 5 buck shows, as a way to say, "Thanks." But we all know that ain't happening.

[Jana]

During the 80's they played 6 or 7 songs off the current album they were touring for. Why pay a hundred bucks to see what I saw 25 years ago when it was new? I hate TBF but if they would play 4 or 5 songs off of it, I might go just because it was fresh. This time though, with no Heart joining them, I think it will be different.They'll havethe filipinos there, but Idon't think people realise how important the Wilson sisters were to this last tour. If you have never seen them, by all means go, Arnel is fantastic live. If it the dirty dozen again though, I would think a lot of people will pass and wait for the new album.

Great points.

The Wilson sisters are fantastic.

The problem I have with the Filipinos is their lack of respect for the legacy. They only know Arnel and don't give three shits about the man Journey is famous for: Perry.

The real big plus Journey has going for them is they have such a vast history, and there are bunches who haven't seen them in eons...thy will always have folks show up...even if the show is stale as 4 week old piss....which it is.

Jon and Neal don't know ow to treat their fans and frankly don't give shit about them, because the keep coming to their shows.. They're like the Cubs fans. they support a losing team year after year. Why?

If Journey were smart, they would do free shows or 5 buck shows, as a way to say, "Thanks." But we all know that ain't happening.

True, Heart was a great fit and draw for the concert. A lot of people were excited they were touring with Journey down here. But my dream is they play People and Places and more ROR and some TBF, like One More. My hope is it's a two-hour show, and they have Deen sing several songs the whole concert tour; thus giving Arnel a rest. With a two-hour set, at least I can hear a few more songs other than Open Arms. Hey, a girl can dream. And if they don't play Turn Down The World Tonight off of Revelations, I will be pissed off. It's a great song and Arnel's voice and tone are great on it. I would love to hear Like a Sunshower. But I know that will never happen.

[Rockindeano]

True, Heart was a great fit and draw for the concert. A lot of people were excited they were touring with Journey down here. But my dream is they play People and Places and more ROR and some TBF, like One More. My hope is it's a two-hour show, and they have Deen sing several songs the whole concert tour; thus giving Arnel a rest. With a two-hour set, at least I can hear a few more songs other than Open Arms. Hey, a girl can dream. And if they don't play Turn Down The World Tonight off of Revelations, I will be pissed off. It's a great song and Arnel's voice and tone are great on it. I would like Like a Sunshower. But I know that will never happen.

Then why go and spend 200 dollars?

You know what? Sorry I commented. You Journey fans do what makes you happy. I just can't get into it. They will find a way to rape your wallet, if you let them. You do know there are other bands out there?

[PianoMan1986]

I'm hearing that Bryan Adams is probably their opening act. If so, this is an outstanding choice and I can't wait to see him/them. Thoughts? Dean?

I don't see it. I asked Schon about this and he said BA wouldn't do it without Perry, for whatever reason.

When did you ask him about this? Do you speak to him often?

[Don]

During the 80's they played 6 or 7 songs off the current album they were touring for. Why pay a hundred bucks to see what I saw 25 years ago when it was new? I hate TBF but if they would play 4 or 5 songs off of it, I might go just because it was fresh. This time though, with no Heart joining them, I think it will be different.They'll havethe filipinos there, but Idon't think people realise how important the Wilson sisters were to this last tour. If you have never seen them, by all means go, Arnel is fantastic live. If it the dirty dozen again though, I would think a lot of people will pass and wait for the new album.

Great points.

The Wilson sisters are fantastic.

The problem I have with the Filipinos is their lack of respect for the legacy. They only know Arnel and don't give three shits about the man Journey is famous for: Perry.

The real big plus Journey has going for them is they have such a vast history, and there are bunches who haven't seen them in eons...thy will always have folks show up...even if the show is stale as 4 week old piss....which it is.

Jon and Neal don't know ow to treat their fans and frankly don't give shit about them, because the keep coming to their shows.. They're like the Cubs fans. they support a losing team year after year. Why?

If Journey were smart, they would do free shows or 5 buck shows, as a way to say, "Thanks." But we all know that ain't happening.

True, Heart was a great fit and draw for the concert. A lot of people were excited they were touring with Journey down here. But my dream is they play People and Places and more ROR and some TBF, like One More. My hope is it's a two-hour show, and they have Deen sing several songs the whole concert tour; thus giving Arnel a rest. With a two-hour set, at least I can hear a few more songs other than Open Arms. Hey, a girl can dream. And if they don't play Turn Down The World Tonight off of Revelations, I will be pissed off. It's a great song and Arnel's voice and tone are great on it. I would like Like a Sunshower. But I know that will never happen.

It's only 30 shows so Arnel should be able to handle a two hour set. Bon Jovi just played 99 shows (all sold out by the way) and their singer survived without any help. Arnel has no problem doing all these little guest appearances on his downtime so no one should have to go to show and see Deen sing because the vocalist is tired. Perry did it for 8 years. Arnel only has to do it for probably three years at the most, he should be able to handle it.

[stevew2]

Is the Asian tour 10 shows? Anybody know?

Speakim of Asian i like your new chick, nice way to start off the new year

[Don]

I was all for Deen helping Arnel out when he first started touring, but now that everyone considers him the second coming, I think he should do what they pay him for. Be the full time singer for Journey. Deen shouldn't have to worry about anything but playing drums. We have been assured by Arnel's fans that he is ready to go as evidenced by him singing on his own time.

[Don]

Is the Asian tour 10 shows? Anybody know?

Speakim of Asian i like your new chick, nice way to start off the new year

That's a Filipina hottie there. Powered by rice alone, my friend.

[Jana]

During the 80's they played 6 or 7 songs off the current album they were touring for. Why pay a hundred bucks to see what I saw 25 years ago when it was new? I hate TBF but if they would play 4 or 5 songs off of it, I might go just because it was fresh. This time though, with no Heart joining them, I think it will be different.They'll havethe filipinos there, but Idon't think people realise how important the Wilson sisters were to this last tour. If you have never seen them, by all means go, Arnel is fantastic live. If it the dirty dozen again though, I would think a lot of people will pass and wait for the new album.

Great points.

The Wilson sisters are fantastic.

The problem I have with the Filipinos is their lack of respect for the legacy. They only know Arnel and don't give three shits about the man Journey is famous for: Perry.

The real big plus Journey has going for them is they have such a vast history, and there are bunches who haven't seen them in eons...thy will always have folks show up...even if the show is stale as 4 week old piss....which it is.

Jon and Neal don't know ow to treat their fans and frankly don't give shit about them, because the keep coming to their shows.. They're like the Cubs fans. they support a losing team year after year. Why?

If Journey were smart, they would do free shows or 5 buck shows, as a way to say, "Thanks." But we all know that ain't happening.

True, Heart was a great fit and draw for the concert. A lot of people were excited they were touring with Journey down here. But my dream is they play People and Places and more ROR and some TBF, like One More. My hope is it's a two-hour show, and they have Deen sing several songs the whole concert tour; thus giving Arnel a rest. With a two-hour set, at least I can hear a few more songs other than Open Arms. Hey, a girl can dream. And if they don't play Turn Down The World Tonight off of Revelations, I will be pissed off. It's a great song and Arnel's voice and tone are great on it. I would like Like a Sunshower. But I know that will never happen.

It's only 30 shows so Arnel should be able to handle a two hour set. Bon Jovi just played 99 shows (all sold out by the way) and their singer survived without any help. Arnel has no problem doing all these little guest appearances on his downtime so no one should have to go to show and see Deen sing because the vocalist is tired. Perry did it for 8 years. Arnel only has to do it for probably three years at the most, he should be able to handle it.

I love Bon Jovi, but to me Journey's songs during concert back to back are way more taxing vocally. That's probably, unfortunately, because they play the Dirty Dozen songs, which are all belting out type songs, like Separate Ways. I'm sure Arnel could handle it, but I love Deen on Mother Father and enjoy hearing him sing a few songs; just like I enjoy hearing Richie Sambora sing.

[aliaslen]

Is the Asian tour 10 shows? Anybody know?

So far only 4 dates asian tour are confirmed as posted in his official site.

Japan - March 9, 10 and 11
Phil. - March 14

[Don]

During the 80's they played 6 or 7 songs off the current album they were touring for. Why pay a hundred bucks to see what I saw 25 years ago when it was new? I hate TBF but if they would play 4 or 5 songs off of it, I might go just because it was fresh. This time though, with no Heart joining them, I think it will be different.They'll havethe filipinos there, but Idon't think people realise how important the Wilson sisters were to this last tour. If you have never seen them, by all means go, Arnel is fantastic live. If it the dirty dozen again though, I would think a lot of people will pass and wait for the new album.

Great points.

The Wilson sisters are fantastic.

The problem I have with the Filipinos is their lack of respect for the legacy. They only know Arnel and don't give three shits about the man Journey is famous for: Perry.

The real big plus Journey has going for them is they have such a vast history, and there are bunches who haven't seen them in eons...thy will always have folks show up...even if the show is stale as 4 week old piss....which it is.

Jon and Neal don't know ow to treat their fans and frankly don't give shit about them, because the keep coming to their shows.. They're like the Cubs fans. they support a losing team year after year. Why?

If Journey were smart, they would do free shows or 5 buck shows, as a way to say, "Thanks." But we all know that ain't happening.

True, Heart was a great fit and draw for the concert. A lot of people were excited they were touring with Journey down here. But my dream is they play People and Places and more ROR and some TBF, like One More. My hope is it's a two-hour show, and they have Deen sing several songs the whole concert tour; thus giving Arnel a rest. With a two-hour set, at least I can hear a few more songs other than Open Arms. Hey, a girl can dream. And if they don't play Turn Down The World Tonight off of Revelations, I will be pissed off. It's a great song and Arnel's voice and tone are great on it. I would like Like a Sunshower. But I know that will never happen.

It's only 30 shows so Arnel should be able to handle a two hour set. Bon Jovi just played 99 shows (all sold out by the way) and their singer survived without any help. Arnel has no problem doing all these little guest appearances on his downtime so no one should have to go to show and see Deen sing because the vocalist is tired. Perry did it for 8 years. Arnel only has to do it for probably three years at the most, he should be able to handle it.

I love Bon Jovi, but to me Journey's songs during concert back to back are way more taxing vocally. That's probably, unfortunately, because they play the Dirty Dozen songs, which are all belting out type songs, like Separate Ways. I'm sure Arnel could handle it, but I love Deen on Mother Father and enjoy hearing him sing a few songs; just like I enjoy hearing Richie Sambora sing.

The whole catalog prior to Escape was brutal on high notes. Arnel is lucky he doesn't have to do the setlist from the Captured album.