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mikemarrs wrote:holy shit is that the way most owners of companies are thinking these days.has it come to this?
Rockindeano wrote:Stopped reading after the first sentence. Yeah the new political wave that has hit the country. LOL, and I especially like the comment on how the new wave has steamrolled the Constitution.
Give it a rest already Stu. Your party lost because it sucks and it fucked up.
Now I am enfuckinraged.
Ehwmatt wrote:No party won or lost. The government is fleecing us at all levels, literally stealing from us, regardless of what party they hail from. If any of you are too dumb to fucking see that, well, you reap what you sow... and we're sowing a ruined a country here. We are DONE. Fried. Cooked. Destroyed. Fucked. Goodbye United States, nice knowing you.
So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9am, mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5pm, I don't. There is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat, and breathe this company every minute of the day. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. Every day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year old special-needs child. You, of course, only see the fruits of that garden - the nice house, the Mercedes, the vacations ... you never realize the back story and the sacrifices I've made.
Rhiannon wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:No party won or lost. The government is fleecing us at all levels, literally stealing from us, regardless of what party they hail from. If any of you are too dumb to fucking see that, well, you reap what you sow... and we're sowing a ruined a country here. We are DONE. Fried. Cooked. Destroyed. Fucked. Goodbye United States, nice knowing you.
You seem like you're in a bad mood Matt... all ok over there?
TRAGChick wrote:Doesn't impact me that much....I'm already unemployed.
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Please let me know if you need Singers.I don't care if it's CA OR CT.
conversationpc wrote:So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9am, mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5pm, I don't. There is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat, and breathe this company every minute of the day. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. Every day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year old special-needs child. You, of course, only see the fruits of that garden - the nice house, the Mercedes, the vacations ... you never realize the back story and the sacrifices I've made.
First of all, someone who "eats and breathes" their company every minute of the day is working too much and neglecting friends and family at the same time, something they will regret later in life. Secondly, whoever this is makes the mistake of lumping all employees into the "arrive at 9AM, mentally check in at noon" crowd. Most people don't fit that characterization, regardless of their job title. Hard work is admirable. Over-work is just as bad. Either way, something or someone is neglected.
conversationpc wrote:So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9am, mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5pm, I don't. There is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat, and breathe this company every minute of the day. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. Every day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year old special-needs child. You, of course, only see the fruits of that garden - the nice house, the Mercedes, the vacations ... you never realize the back story and the sacrifices I've made.
First of all, someone who "eats and breathes" their company every minute of the day is working too much and neglecting friends and family at the same time, something they will regret later in life. Secondly, whoever this is makes the mistake of lumping all employees into the "arrive at 9AM, mentally check in at noon" crowd. Most people don't fit that characterization, regardless of their job title. Hard work is admirable. Over-work is just as bad. Either way, something or someone is neglected.
RossValoryRocks wrote:TRAGChick wrote:Doesn't impact me that much....I'm already unemployed.
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Oh but it does...drive all the small and medium business out of this country by taxing them to death and you will NEVER have a job again.
RossValoryRocks wrote:TRAGChick wrote:Doesn't impact me that much....I'm already unemployed.
STUDIO PRODUCERS:
Please let me know if you need Singers.I don't care if it's CA OR CT.
Oh but it does...drive all the small and medium business out of this country by taxing them to death and you will NEVER have a job again.
Ehwmatt wrote:I think he's addressing entry-level people more than anything. I can't tell you the amount of times I've seen the secretaries and what not in my department sitting there losing important documents, surfing the web shopping for clothes, talking on the phone, talking about the latest fad diet, and generally doing anything not resembling work. The guy is making a great point that would be much better communicated with a softer tone and better choice of words, but I understand what he's saying.
TRAGChick wrote:RossValoryRocks wrote:TRAGChick wrote:Doesn't impact me that much....I'm already unemployed.
STUDIO PRODUCERS:
Please let me know if you need Singers.I don't care if it's CA OR CT.
Oh but it does...drive all the small and medium business out of this country by taxing them to death and you will NEVER have a job again.
....hah....??DUDE - I'm sending out a message that I WANT TO DO JINGLES, BACKING VOX, AND/OR VOICE-OVER WORK.
conversationpc wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:I think he's addressing entry-level people more than anything. I can't tell you the amount of times I've seen the secretaries and what not in my department sitting there losing important documents, surfing the web shopping for clothes, talking on the phone, talking about the latest fad diet, and generally doing anything not resembling work. The guy is making a great point that would be much better communicated with a softer tone and better choice of words, but I understand what he's saying.
I also can't tell you the amount of times I've seen so-called executives giving other employees the shaft, backstabbing, and kissing ass to get ahead rather than just hard work. In my experience, there are about an equal percentage of hard workers, with the exception of the perpetually poor, at all levels. Each income level has its own inherent pitfalls that cause them to be less than what they should be.
RossValoryRocks wrote:conversationpc wrote:So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9am, mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5pm, I don't. There is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat, and breathe this company every minute of the day. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. Every day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year old special-needs child. You, of course, only see the fruits of that garden - the nice house, the Mercedes, the vacations ... you never realize the back story and the sacrifices I've made.
First of all, someone who "eats and breathes" their company every minute of the day is working too much and neglecting friends and family at the same time, something they will regret later in life. Secondly, whoever this is makes the mistake of lumping all employees into the "arrive at 9AM, mentally check in at noon" crowd. Most people don't fit that characterization, regardless of their job title. Hard work is admirable. Over-work is just as bad. Either way, something or someone is neglected.
Ok Dave...it is HYPERBOLE...to illustrate some points...
And as for your assertion...that IS what it takes to get a company off the ground...80+ hour weeks...and then some...
Ehwmatt wrote:Yep. And I think we are about to see a revolution in the types of people filling CEO and other high-level positions. Before, Boards of Exeuctives we're looking for flamboyant personalities before anything else. Now, I think we are entering an era that sees them looking for more stoic, proven, hard-working, ethical businessmen who care about their impact on their respective companies to fill these positions.
Rick wrote:This paints working class America with the same brush. It's inflammatory and irresponsible.
I could post an equally long diatribe in rebuttal, but instead, since reading this, I think I'll quit my job and live off the government.
artist4perry wrote:TRAGChick wrote:RossValoryRocks wrote:TRAGChick wrote:Doesn't impact me that much....I'm already unemployed.
STUDIO PRODUCERS:
Please let me know if you need Singers.I don't care if it's CA OR CT.
Oh but it does...drive all the small and medium business out of this country by taxing them to death and you will NEVER have a job again.
....hah....??DUDE - I'm sending out a message that I WANT TO DO JINGLES, BACKING VOX, AND/OR VOICE-OVER WORK.
Unfortunately during hard times these are jobs that get short changed or cut.
They just don't want to do anything that costs any money, not even ads.
conversationpc wrote:Rick wrote:This paints working class America with the same brush. It's inflammatory and irresponsible.
I could post an equally long diatribe in rebuttal, but instead, since reading this, I think I'll quit my job and live off the government.
You work?![]()
conversationpc wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Yep. And I think we are about to see a revolution in the types of people filling CEO and other high-level positions. Before, Boards of Exeuctives we're looking for flamboyant personalities before anything else. Now, I think we are entering an era that sees them looking for more stoic, proven, hard-working, ethical businessmen who care about their impact on their respective companies to fill these positions.
I certainly hope so.
Rick wrote:conversationpc wrote:Rick wrote:This paints working class America with the same brush. It's inflammatory and irresponsible.
I could post an equally long diatribe in rebuttal, but instead, since reading this, I think I'll quit my job and live off the government.
You work?![]()
Sometimes, in between my long but well deserved chatboard lunch breaks.
artist4perry wrote:conversationpc wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Yep. And I think we are about to see a revolution in the types of people filling CEO and other high-level positions. Before, Boards of Exeuctives we're looking for flamboyant personalities before anything else. Now, I think we are entering an era that sees them looking for more stoic, proven, hard-working, ethical businessmen who care about their impact on their respective companies to fill these positions.
I certainly hope so.
Hardwork and loyalty is seldom rewarded anymore, depending on the employer. The majority I have seen make you think you have a chance to advance, make you jump through hoops for years to get it, then give it to an incompetent nephew.
conversationpc wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Yep. And I think we are about to see a revolution in the types of people filling CEO and other high-level positions. Before, Boards of Exeuctives we're looking for flamboyant personalities before anything else. Now, I think we are entering an era that sees them looking for more stoic, proven, hard-working, ethical businessmen who care about their impact on their respective companies to fill these positions.
I certainly hope so.
artist4perry wrote:Hardwork and loyalty is seldom rewarded anymore, depending on the employer. The majority I have seen make you think you have a chance to advance, make you jump through hoops for years to get it, then give it to an incompetent nephew.
Rick wrote:artist4perry wrote:conversationpc wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Yep. And I think we are about to see a revolution in the types of people filling CEO and other high-level positions. Before, Boards of Exeuctives we're looking for flamboyant personalities before anything else. Now, I think we are entering an era that sees them looking for more stoic, proven, hard-working, ethical businessmen who care about their impact on their respective companies to fill these positions.
I certainly hope so.
Hardwork and loyalty is seldom rewarded anymore, depending on the employer. The majority I have seen make you think you have a chance to advance, make you jump through hoops for years to get it, then give it to an incompetent nephew.
Never underestimate the value of an incompetent nephew. When the company fails, he can help you move out of your mansion.
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