OT: The Cavs are scary good

[Enigma869]

Just a few minutes ago one of the Cleveland radio shows was just interviewing Barry, and Barry was saying that people are taking what he said out of context. He went on to say that James is clearly the best player in all of Basketball right now, and that if he fixes these few minor flaws he'll go down as the greatest ever. He said that these few minor "flaws" are extremely fixable, and that James will get those fixed very soon.

On a separate note: I recently read an article about some math genius who also happens to be a huge Basketball fan that came up with some math equation to determine which players have had the greatest single seasons of any players in NBA history. It's considered to be so accurate that the NBA even recognize his equation as being accurate and use it themselves. That equation has determined that LeBron James is currently having the greatest single season in NBA history. Of course, the season isn't over, so that could change.

Put your Cleveland cheerleader skirt away Jamison worshipper! Just because LeBron grew up in Akron doesn't make him the greatest player in the history of the NBA. That distinction will be Michael Jordan's forever! Everyone else will continue to be an impostor. It won't be long before your delusional brain is in here telling everyone that stiff Travis Hafner is better than Babe Ruth!

[Journey/Survivor]

Just a few minutes ago one of the Cleveland radio shows was just interviewing Barry, and Barry was saying that people are taking what he said out of context. He went on to say that James is clearly the best player in all of Basketball right now, and that if he fixes these few minor flaws he'll go down as the greatest ever. He said that these few minor "flaws" are extremely fixable, and that James will get those fixed very soon.

On a separate note: I recently read an article about some math genius who also happens to be a huge Basketball fan that came up with some math equation to determine which players have had the greatest single seasons of any players in NBA history. It's considered to be so accurate that the NBA even recognize his equation as being accurate and use it themselves. That equation has determined that LeBron James is currently having the greatest single season in NBA history. Of course, the season isn't over, so that could change.

Put your Cleveland cheerleader skirt away Jamison worshipper! Just because LeBron grew up in Akron doesn't make him the greatest player in the history of the NBA. That distinction will be Michael Jordan's forever! Everyone else will continue to be an impostor. It won't be long before your delusional brain is in here telling everyone that stiff Travis Hafner is better than Babe Ruth!

Fuck off, shit-head.

Do a Google search and count how many NATIONAL sportscasters predict that James will be as good or even better than Jordan when all is said and done.

I know that last season you were still trying to claim that Kobe is better than LeBron. James is now clearly separating himself as better than Bryant. It's pretty much accepted by everyone now that Lebron James is the best player in the NBA at this time.

Even this season your trying to claim that the Cavs are a "one man team." Until his injury it was considered to be a lock that Ilgauskas would make the All-Star team this season, which would be his third. Most NATIONAL broadcasters feel that Mo Williams is deserving of being an All-Star this season. Hell, the guy just scored 33 points in last nights game. And I can't count how many NATIONAL broadcasters have said in the last few weeks that the Cavs have a deeper team roster than the Celtics, and that the Cavs have to be considered to be the favorites to represent the East in the NBA Finals this year.

[Enigma869]

Fuck off, shit-head.

Go lick Jamison's nuts, fanboy!

Do a Google search and count how many NATIONAL sportscasters predict that James will be as good or even better than Jordan when all is said and done.

This is why you continue to be a complete fucking embarrassment to the city of Cleveland. You're one of the easiest so-called "sports fans" who I've ever debated with, because you know absolutely nothing about sports! You have no freakin' clue what you're talking about and have to rely upon "Google" searches to get the opinion of what "national sportscasters predict". I could give a fuck what you, "national sportscasters", or Cleo are predicting. It couldn't be less relevant. Everyone predicted the world of technology would come to a screeching halt when the calendar turned to the year 2000. I also didn't listen to your clueless self when you predicted the Cleveland Browns were "a serious super bowl threat" this past season. You were correct about one thing...The NFL would have been "threatened" as a serious league if a team that sucked as much as the Girl Scouts made it to the Super Bowl!

I know that last season you were still trying to claim that Kobe is better than LeBron. James is now clearly separating himself as better than Bryant. It's pretty much accepted by everyone now that Lebron James is the best player in the NBA at this time.

I honestly don't give a fuck who the best player in the NBA is. It's completely fucking meaningless. Whether it's LeBron or Kobe didn't matter at the end of the season, because neither guy brought home a championship! Your stance on EVERYTHING is "If the player is from Cleveland, he is the best", and "All Cleveland teams are the best". It gives you ZERO credibility as a sports fan with people who are true fans of sport. Cleveland is a second-rate sports city. It always has been and always will be. The only thing Cleveland sports teams are famous for is one choke after another! Let me know when you win some fucking hardware. One of these days, you'll get your cock out of your hand while admiring your LeBron James poster and realize that one man doesn't make a team and never has!

Even this season your trying to claim that the Cavs are a "one man team." Until his injury it was considered to be a lock that Ilgauskas would make the All-Star team this season, which would be his third. Most NATIONAL broadcasters feel that Mo Williams is deserving of being an All-Star this season. Hell, the guy just scored 33 points in last nights game. And I can't count how many NATIONAL broadcasters have said in the last few weeks that the Cavs have a deeper team roster than the Celtics, and that the Cavs have to be considered to be the favorites to represent the East in the NBA Finals this year.

Just another paragraph of meaningless meanderings from the Clueless Clevelander. I hope for Cleveland's sake that not all of its residents have their heads tucked this far up their anus! The Boston Bruins have had the best record in the entire NHL (I know the NHL is a foreign concept to a second class sports city, but it's a professional sports league) almost this entire season and I haven't posted 100 times here about it, because it doesn't matter. They haven't won a Stanley Cup since the world was flat, and I won't say a word unless they win it all, because the regular season is MEANINGLESS. I would say that one of these days you'd figure that out, but you continue to prove, with your idiotic comments, that you'll always be fucking clueless! Why don't you get back in here and brag out your "semi-pro soccer team" winning a championship. That should get everyone fired up. What a fucking dope

[conversationpc]

At this point, Dwyane Wade may be better than both James and Bryant.

[Journey/Survivor]

Fuck off, shit-head.

Go lick Jamison's nuts, fanboy!

Do a Google search and count how many NATIONAL sportscasters predict that James will be as good or even better than Jordan when all is said and done.

This is why you continue to be a complete fucking embarrassment to the city of Cleveland. You're one of the easiest so-called "sports fans" who I've ever debated with, because you know absolutely nothing about sports! You have no freakin' clue what you're talking about and have to rely upon "Google" searches to get the opinion of what "national sportscasters predict". I could give a fuck what you, "national sportscasters", or Cleo are predicting. It couldn't be less relevant. Everyone predicted the world of technology would come to a screeching halt when the calendar turned to the year 2000. I also didn't listen to your clueless self when you predicted the Cleveland Browns were "a serious super bowl threat" this past season. You were correct about one thing...The NFL would have been "threatened" as a serious league if a team that sucked as much as the Girl Scouts made it to the Super Bowl!

I know that last season you were still trying to claim that Kobe is better than LeBron. James is now clearly separating himself as better than Bryant. It's pretty much accepted by everyone now that Lebron James is the best player in the NBA at this time.

I honestly don't give a fuck who the best player in the NBA is. It's completely fucking meaningless. Whether it's LeBron or Kobe didn't matter at the end of the season, because neither guy brought home a championship! Your stance on EVERYTHING is "If the player is from Cleveland, he is the best", and "All Cleveland teams are the best". It gives you ZERO credibility as a sports fan with people who are true fans of sport. Cleveland is a second-rate sports city. It always has been and always will be. The only thing Cleveland sports teams are famous for is one choke after another! Let me know when you win some fucking hardware. One of these days, you'll get your cock out of your hand while admiring your LeBron James poster and realize that one man doesn't make a team and never has!

Even this season your trying to claim that the Cavs are a "one man team." Until his injury it was considered to be a lock that Ilgauskas would make the All-Star team this season, which would be his third. Most NATIONAL broadcasters feel that Mo Williams is deserving of being an All-Star this season. Hell, the guy just scored 33 points in last nights game. And I can't count how many NATIONAL broadcasters have said in the last few weeks that the Cavs have a deeper team roster than the Celtics, and that the Cavs have to be considered to be the favorites to represent the East in the NBA Finals this year.

Just another paragraph of meaningless meanderings from the Clueless Clevelander. I hope for Cleveland's sake that not all of its residents have their heads tucked this far up their anus! The Boston Bruins have had the best record in the entire NHL (I know the NHL is a foreign concept to a second class sports city, but it's a professional sports league) almost this entire season and I haven't posted 100 times here about it, because it doesn't matter. They haven't won a Stanley Cup since the world was flat, and I won't say a word unless they win it all, because the regular season is MEANINGLESS. I would say that one of these days you'd figure that out, but you continue to prove, with your idiotic comments, that you'll always be fucking clueless! Why don't you get back in here and brag out your "semi-pro soccer team" winning a championship. That should get everyone fired up. What a fucking dope

Go blow Joe Elliot like you know you want to.

I knew more about sports at the age of 10 than you will ever know. You know Boston sports and that's about it.

I don't need to Google much of anything. I'm simply telling you that if you do do a Google search that you will see tons of national sportscasters who say that LeBron is the best player in the NBA at this time, and many predict that he will wind up being better than Jordan. You insist that James will never be as good or better than Jordan. I'm sure that there was a time that everyone would have insisted that no one would ever be better than Ty Cobb, but then along came Ruth. There would have be3en a time that everyone insisted that there would never be a better Golfer than Jack Nicklaus, but then along came Tiger Woods. You can't guarantee that James won't be better than Jordan when all is said and done. I can't guarantee that James will be better than Jordan. But there is an excellent possibility that he will be better. James just turned 24, most Basketball players don't even reach their prime until around the age range of 28 or even 30 years old.

NHL, I like American sports. Cleveland Soccer teams (yes, I know Soccer isn't an American sport, but I'm not a Soccer fan anyway) that won Championships was not semi-pro, they were professional.

The Browns biggest problem this past season was that they were decimated by injuries, especially to key players. And then there's the fact that Romeo Crennel is the worst head coach in NFL history. By the way, Jim Nantz predicts that Mangenius will win a Super Bowl as the Browns head coach within the next 3 years. I'm not basing my opinions on what Nantz or anyone else says, I'm just simply pointing out that whether you want to believe it or not, that national sportscasters are aware of how much talent the Cleveland sports teams have and how bright their near-futures are. Just last week Roger Craig was raving about how much talent there is on the current Browns, and that as long as they don't become decimated by injuries like they had this season that they'll be a playoff team in 2009-2010.

Talk to me when you learn something about sports.

[Journey/Survivor]

At this point, Dwyane Wade may be better than both James and Bryant.

At this point it goes...

#1 James
#2 Wade
#3 Bryant

Wade is great though, for sure.

[conversationpc]

At this point, Dwyane Wade may be better than both James and Bryant.

At this point it goes...

#1 James
#2 Wade
#3 Bryant

Wade is great though, for sure.

I'd put Wade first, followed by Bryant, then James.

[Saint John]

It looks like the Cavs and Lakers are on a collision course to face each other in the NBA Finals.

You were half right! LeBron James is just a big talented dope. What separates him from Jordan, Bird, Magic and Kobe is brains. Those guys were on court coaches. James has the intelligence and floor leadership of a dead dick. he needs to "learn" the game before he can win a championship. Fuck, he didn't even show up tonight. Total cowardly performance.

[StevePerryHair]

Guess the Cavs weren't' THAT scary good GO MAGIC!!!!!!!!!!

[Don]

Somebody, turn Ehwmatt on his side before he chokes to death.

[Saint John]

Somebody, turn Ehwmatt on his side before he chokes to death.

Seriously, he's crying somewhere. He and Journey/Survivor are probably arguing over who gets to jump first.

[StevePerryHair]

Somebody, turn Ehwmatt on his side before he chokes to death.

Seriously, he's crying somewhere. He and Journey/Survivor are probably arguing over who gets to jump first.

Orlando is a pretty exciting place to be right now! Wish I was downtown and not on my keyboard

[YoungJRNY]

Holy shit I miss John from Boston. Look at him tear it up in this thread, lmao.

[Saint John]

Holy shit I miss John from Boston. Look at him tear it up in this thread, lmao.

I have a feeling he's gonna pop in to rub it in to the Cleveland peeps. Ehwmatt is gonna blow about a million blood vessels if he does.

[Chubby321]

There are so many youtube videos comparing Lebron to Michael and predicting that he is the next Michael Jordan. I think Michael Jordan is one of a kind. No statistics can justify what Michael had accomplished.

You know you're someone special when famous actors, singers, and other famous athletes (not only in basketball) wear your apparel.

Do you think he is the next Michael Jordan?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZWsUD0B ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5ri7t03 ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBSglPCb ... re=related

[Ehwmatt]

A buncha points:

1. John from Boston is a big big fag

2. You cannot possibly blame the loss on LeBron - the guy played 1 on 5 for 4 games straight against an explosive team. He was tired in game 6, all there is to it. Maybe he's got some fitness work to do or maybe all that rest he got this season was counterproductive in the end. I don't know enough about basketball training to say for sure.

3. LeBron is a good leader and has great basketball sense - you don't get that fuckin great without both attributes. My biggest criticism of his leadership is that sometimes he needs to get in a Mo Williams or a Daniel Gibson's face when they are playing badly. He's too much of a benevolent dictator - the great leaders will yell at their teammates (KG, Jordan are two great examples)

4. Two things define this series: Blowing the massive lead in game 1 - The Magic looked downright scared of us in the first half of game 1 and Mo Williams nailing that nearly full court shot at the half buzzer should have been the knife in the heart for that game. A blow out in game 1 would have set the tone for a 4 or 5 game series, imo. Instead, we allowed the Magic to win that game, letting them steal home court and more importantly for the long haul, building a huge amount of confidence, allowing them to put on a shooting clinic of historic proportions. Second, if Delonte comes up with that long rebound with seconds to play in game 4, that game is over instead of Rashard's 3 and LeBron's free throws to send it to OT. Fuckin over. Home court back to us.

5. All year long I didn't believe the pundits' recommendations for another big man. In hindsight, man, how right they were.

6. The Artist Formerly Known as Mo Williams: This guy was supposed to be our championship piece and he was garbage from Detroit on. Maybe the Bucks knew something we didn't when they gave us Mo for Damon Jones's expiring contract.

7. Regardless of the mistakes Mike Brown did or didn't make on defensive matchups and overall rotations(my personal verdict is still out), the Magic put on a hell of a shooting clinic. I'm not sure I've ever seen a team shoot like that in the playoffs. I don't buy the "Oh woe is us they are a bad matchup" talk, we had big leads that we couldn't capitalize on and a few close games (game 3 relatively close, game 4 obviously very close). But you gotta hand it to the guys for shooting lights out and well above their regular season numbers. They're on a mission

8. My head tells me Lakers, but my heart tells me Magic. So I'll do it: Magic in 7. Dwight's gonna be a beast, Pau's soft, and Andrew is inconsistent. That should be enough if the Magic shooters keep up their end of the bargain.

[Jana]

Somebody, turn Ehwmatt on his side before he chokes to death.

Seriously, he's crying somewhere. He and Journey/Survivor are probably arguing over who gets to jump first.

Orlando is a pretty exciting place to be right now! Wish I was downtown and not on my keyboard

Orlando Magic all the way.

[StevePerryHair]

8. My head tells me Lakers, but my heart tells me Magic. So I'll do it: Magic in 7. Dwight's gonna be a beast, Pau's soft, and Andrew is inconsistent. That should be enough if the Magic shooters keep up their end of the bargain.

Yes, follow your heart! I did that once 15 years ago though,and it was broken I really hope they can do it. Orlando doesn't have a whole lot when it comes to professional sports. The Magic are IT and it's time our city gets to feel that kind of excitement !!!! We can have something other than Mickey Mouse for people to talk about

[Saint John]

The end of game 2 is when I knew the Cavs were done. LeBron hit an incredible shot to win the game, but rather than seeing fire and passion in his eyes I saw a kid running around like he won the big stuffed animal at the carnival. I thought his post game-winning shot celebration was completely embarrassing from a team leader point of view and offered up to the Magic that the guy was surprised he made the shot. Take a look at any one of Michael Jordan's "Fuck you, I just ripped your pathetic heart's out" game winning taunts. Little things like this gave the Magic confidence and boy did they gain more and more as the series went on. Culminating with last night's thrashing.

I've long held that shaking hands at the end of a series is fucking stupid and that only baseball gets it right, but James was a media no show and didn't shake hands with any of the Magic players after the game. He would have done so in victory, so he should have done so in defeat. Another sign that he's about as mature as a toddler.

Dump that shit-bum coach and go get Pat Riley. He'd hold LeBron accountable for not being an on-floor leader, teach him how to be one and make coaching moves that (gasp) actually make sense!!! LeBron still lacks the maturity that I think a year or two of college could have given him. The stats are there, but the maturity and leadership are missing. He's been coddled and it shows.

[Maui Tom]

I'm just happy I don't have to watch Delonte West anymore this year...

[Enigma869]

A buncha points:

1. John from Boston is a big big fag

2. You cannot possibly blame the loss on LeBron - the guy played 1 on 5 for 4 games straight against an explosive team. He was tired in game 6, all there is to it. Maybe he's got some fitness work to do or maybe all that rest he got this season was counterproductive in the end. I don't know enough about basketball training to say for sure.

3. LeBron is a good leader and has great basketball sense - you don't get that fuckin great without both attributes. My biggest criticism of his leadership is that sometimes he needs to get in a Mo Williams or a Daniel Gibson's face when they are playing badly. He's too much of a benevolent dictator - the great leaders will yell at their teammates (KG, Jordan are two great examples)

4. Two things define this series: Blowing the massive lead in game 1 - The Magic looked downright scared of us in the first half of game 1 and Mo Williams nailing that nearly full court shot at the half buzzer should have been the knife in the heart for that game. A blow out in game 1 would have set the tone for a 4 or 5 game series, imo. Instead, we allowed the Magic to win that game, letting them steal home court and more importantly for the long haul, building a huge amount of confidence, allowing them to put on a shooting clinic of historic proportions. Second, if Delonte comes up with that long rebound with seconds to play in game 4, that game is over instead of Rashard's 3 and LeBron's free throws to send it to OT. Fuckin over. Home court back to us.

5. All year long I didn't believe the pundits' recommendations for another big man. In hindsight, man, how right they were.

6. The Artist Formerly Known as Mo Williams: This guy was supposed to be our championship piece and he was garbage from Detroit on. Maybe the Bucks knew something we didn't when they gave us Mo for Damon Jones's expiring contract.

7. Regardless of the mistakes Mike Brown did or didn't make on defensive matchups and overall rotations(my personal verdict is still out), the Magic put on a hell of a shooting clinic. I'm not sure I've ever seen a team shoot like that in the playoffs. I don't buy the "Oh woe is us they are a bad matchup" talk, we had big leads that we couldn't capitalize on and a few close games (game 3 relatively close, game 4 obviously very close). But you gotta hand it to the guys for shooting lights out and well above their regular season numbers. They're on a mission

8. My head tells me Lakers, but my heart tells me Magic. So I'll do it: Magic in 7. Dwight's gonna be a beast, Pau's soft, and Andrew is inconsistent. That should be enough if the Magic shooters keep up their end of the bargain.

Listen you fucking douche...If I ever had the desire to go to that shithole excuse of a sports city, I'd spit in your fucking face! The only one of you so-called moronic Cleveland sports fans that has more than two brain cells is luvsaugeri. She's the only rational sports fan in the city of Cleveland! Cleveland has proven once again that's it's a disgrace of a sports city. At least in Boston, our entire fucking city doesn't go into a championship drought. I will NEVER respect the Cleveland sports fans on this board, because most of you are too fucking retarded to even engage in a debate. Way for that shitbag Lebron James to go storming off the court like a little bitch. I hope he finally reaches puberty one of these seasons and actually grows the fuck up. He may be an immense talent, but he's a fucking pussy and a shitbag poor sport. Give me a call when you fuckers actually find a sports team that doesn't choke their ass off! I think it's time for the mayor of Cleveland to put out a "proclamation" that the Mistake by the Lake has been officially renamed to CHOKELAND! Fuck you Cleveland, and all your fucking shit teams!

[bluejeangirl76]

3. LeBron is a good leader and has great basketball sense - you don't get that fuckin great without both attributes. My biggest criticism of his leadership is that sometimes he needs to get in a Mo Williams or a Daniel Gibson's face when they are playing badly. He's too much of a benevolent dictator - the great leaders will yell at their teammates (KG, Jordan are two great examples)

Erm, no. He's not a great leader. Great leaders don't bail out on congratulating the winning team and walk off the court.

LeBron James, regardless of his skill, is a huge douchebag.

[Ehwmatt]

3. LeBron is a good leader and has great basketball sense - you don't get that fuckin great without both attributes. My biggest criticism of his leadership is that sometimes he needs to get in a Mo Williams or a Daniel Gibson's face when they are playing badly. He's too much of a benevolent dictator - the great leaders will yell at their teammates (KG, Jordan are two great examples)

Erm, no. He's not a great leader. Great leaders don't bail out on congratulating the winning team and walk off the court.

LeBron James, regardless of his skill, is a huge douchebag.

I said good, not great. Definitely a huge leap from one to the next. Hence my comparison to guys like KG and MJ - they are in a different class of leadership. His actions weren't the best after the end, but they weren't the worst, either. The guy has shown remarkable poise up til now as far as that kinda stuff goes. It wasn't just a game or a series' worth of frustration bubbling over, it was really three years of frustration building up and culimnating. I'm not defending the post-game behavior, but I can understand it.

LeBron is a douche though, trust me, I'm no LeBron worshipper. His actions with the Yankees hats and cheering against our other teams when he grew up here are pretty over the top and he's a dick to some of our local media (puts on a good face for national media). This next season, regardless of how well or poorly the Cavs do, is gonna suck with the whole circus about him leaving/staying. It's started already even. LeBron's a phony, but he's damn good. And his skills do include some natural on-court leadership. Game 6 just shows he needs work on the intangible and off the court leadership.

[Ehwmatt]

Listen you fucking douche...If I ever had the desire to go to that shithole excuse of a sports city, I'd spit in your fucking face! The only one of you so-called moronic Cleveland sports fans that has more than two brain cells is luvsaugeri. She's the only rational sports fan in the city of Cleveland! Cleveland has proven once again that's it's a disgrace of a sports city. At least in Boston, our entire fucking city doesn't go into a championship drought. I will NEVER respect the Cleveland sports fans on this board, because most of you are too fucking retarded to even engage in a debate. Way for that shitbag Lebron James to go storming off the court like a little bitch. I hope he finally reaches puberty one of these seasons and actually grows the fuck up. He may be an immense talent, but he's a fucking pussy and a shitbag poor sport. Give me a call when you fuckers actually find a sports team that doesn't choke their ass off! I think it's time for the mayor of Cleveland to put out a "proclamation" that the Mistake by the Lake has been officially renamed to CHOKELAND! Fuck you Cleveland, and all your fucking shit teams!

Yeah, like I said, you're a huge fag. You have to be a 12-year-old masquerading behind the guise of a disgruntled east coast postal worker and former law enforcement officer. You just can't be real. You can't be.

[Saint John]

I saw this one coming!

[Jana]

So sad. Bad night for the Magic.

[Saint John]

Another complete thrashing of a good, but definitely not great, team. Lebron James is nothing more than a stats whore, giving nothing to the game in terms of leadership, on court direction, making his teammates better, willing a team to win or displaying any balls. He's played his last game for the Cavs and is off to a major city, probably Chicago and maybe New York, to pad his bank account. That's really all I think he cares about. He'll make less in salary, but tens of millions more in advertising and other huge endorsements and perks only a major city can offer.

It's embarrassing to the NBA that this Cavaliers team, probably 50 win team in any other era, won as many games as they did. The NBA is a complete joke and has 2 really good, complete teams ... LA and Orlando. Congrats, Lebron. Go polish your high school championship trophy. "Scary good ..."

[wednesday's child]

It's embarrassing to the NBA that this Cavaliers team, probably 50 win team in any other era, won as many games as they did. The NBA is a complete joke and has 2 really good, complete teams ... LA and Orlando. Congrats, Lebron. Go polish your high school championship trophy. "Scary good ..."

QFT.
Kids these days.... just too many are fucking morons.

[Tomulator]

Kobe is better.

Simple as that.

Best since Jordan.

Simple as that.

Number FIVE is coming in a few short weeks for Kobe.

Simple as that!

[Saint John]

Kobe is better.

Simple as that.

Best since Jordan.

Simple as that.

Number FIVE is coming in a few short weeks for Kobe.

Simple as that!

I don't know, man. The Celtics are playing great basketball.