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Postby Abitaman » Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:54 am

finalfight wrote:
Arkansas wrote:
finalfight wrote: ... Someone should sue the b@stards that created it for impeding their freedom. ...


So much for personal responsibility, huh?
Facebook doesn't kill people. People kill people.
Facebook doesn't divulge info. People do.
If people didn't use it, it would go away on its own.
Too much 'hey look at me!' bull$hit in this world.


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My problem is that non Facebook users are also dragged into this quagmire as there is absolutely nothing stopping them from being mentioned in someone's status or wall or tagged in photographs. This information then does the rounds and eventually gets back to the right or wrong people. It's a cesspool, a breeding ground of unwarranted gossip and Chinese whispers.

Case in point, I know of a Facebook user that put pictures of her child's first day at school on their supposedly secure account only allowing access to family and close friends. A family member who lived several hundreds of miles away tagged the photos and put them on their own Facebook account which did not have restricted access. Now via a simple Google search the estranged father of the person who originally posted the photos 'securely' was able to track down family members, in this case the Auntie, and not only see that his daughter had a child but also know exactly were the little girl went to school due to the uniform in the photo.

Imagine the shock when the mother turned up and the school one day to find 'grandpa' (an ex-con with a violent history) chatting to the granddaughter he had no right to see. Needless to say it was a very heated, unwarranted and downright scary situation for both mother and child. Imagine if she had gone home with grandpa - after all he had gotten this far unquestioned.

Farcebook breeds jealously and mistrust and ends as many relationships as it creates. This downright dangerous network is a predators paradise and people need to very, very careful when using it.

It beggars belief with the current levels of unemployment that people will openly state how much they hate their job or berate their colleagues when all it takes is a few clicks of a button for this information to become public knowledge. It's simply astounding!

If you want to stay in touch with people safely email, write a letter or God forbid use the phone (and I don't mean txt)! And hope to hell that person isn't a Facebook user unless you want the contents divulged to one and all.


Well said.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:57 am

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StevePerryHair wrote:Well maybe some of us old people like the fact that we can keep up with all those friends we lost touch with to all of those different schools and jobs and marriages etc. :P :lol: :lol:


We gave you MySpace!! Was that not enough for you? :lol: :wink:


:lol: None of the people I have found in facebook are using myspace and I have no idea why! I like myspace. I noticed though how they are changing EVERYTHING to look like facebook to compete!
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Postby StevePerryHair » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:03 am

finalfight wrote:
Arkansas wrote:
finalfight wrote: ... Someone should sue the b@stards that created it for impeding their freedom. ...


So much for personal responsibility, huh?
Facebook doesn't kill people. People kill people.
Facebook doesn't divulge info. People do.
If people didn't use it, it would go away on its own.
Too much 'hey look at me!' bull$hit in this world.


later~

My problem is that non Facebook users are also dragged into this quagmire as there is absolutely nothing stopping them from being mentioned in someone's status or wall or tagged in photographs. This information then does the rounds and eventually gets back to the right or wrong people. It's a cesspool, a breeding ground of unwarranted gossip and Chinese whispers.

Case in point, I know of a Facebook user that put pictures of her child's first day at school on their supposedly secure account only allowing access to family and close friends. A family member who lived several hundreds of miles away tagged the photos and put them on their own Facebook account which did not have restricted access. Now via a simple Google search the estranged father of the person who originally posted the photos 'securely' was able to track down family members, in this case the Auntie, and not only see that his daughter had a child but also know exactly were the little girl went to school due to the uniform in the photo.

Imagine the shock when the mother turned up and the school one day to find 'grandpa' (an ex-con with a violent history) chatting to the granddaughter he had no right to see. Needless to say it was a very heated, unwarranted and downright scary situation for both mother and child. Imagine if she had gone home with grandpa - after all he had gotten this far unquestioned.

Farcebook breeds jealously and mistrust and ends as many relationships as it creates. This downright dangerous network is a predators paradise and people need to very, very careful when using it.

It beggars belief with the current levels of unemployment that people will openly state how much they hate their job or berate their colleagues when all it takes is a few clicks of a button for this information to become public knowledge. It's simply astounding!

If you want to stay in touch with people safely email, write a letter or God forbid use the phone (and I don't mean txt)! And hope to hell that person isn't a Facebook user unless you want the contents divulged to one and all.


I will state again. This message board is no different. People post personal things here. They post pictures. They can be tracked here too. Yet here you are posting here. I mean really, if you have an "estranged" relative, then YES you should stay the hell off of facebook. But if you are a normal average person without those fears I just don't see the harm it can do. Some of us can use good judgement and know whether or not we are posting TMI. For those that can't, that's really their problem for being so dumb. I don't see how that is the site's problem. Or anyone elses who uses it purely for innocent things. It is a site to FIND people. You can't find people by texting and emailing. And it's much easier to post something for all those you want to keep in touch with in one place rather than send out 20 or more emails.
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Postby finalfight » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:04 am

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I keep a Facebook so people can find me and send me messages if they are coming back in town or whatever. I have friends that are working in Argentina and China with no other way to get in touch with me, and some day it'll be nice to be able to look up old friends that have gone their own way. I don't put dumb pictures on there, I don't post my phone number (that's what private messages are for if someone needs it), and I don't give out my address.


What happened to good old email...?
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Postby StevePerryHair » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:14 am

Ehwmatt wrote:I keep a Facebook so people can find me and send me messages if they are coming back in town or whatever. I have friends that are working in Argentina and China with no other way to get in touch with me, and some day it'll be nice to be able to look up old friends that have gone their own way. I don't put dumb pictures on there, I don't post my phone number (that's what private messages are for if someone needs it), and I don't give out my address.

People are responsible for the shit that ends up on there, not the site.

With that said, this story is extremely sad, but an Internet Web site did not make that nutjob do what he did. He would have found some other reason to snap, such as when she served him with divorce papers, no doubt about that.


I agree with this. It's a place to actually look people up who have moved around and you lost touch with. People I NEVER would have talked to again for my whole life if not for the site. And they are people I miss actually, but as time went on we just drifted as people do, and it's such a fun thing to find them again and catch up. The features of having a chat, private message place and a wall are what makes it a convenient place to be. It is FREE and minutes on a phone are not. And going there to send a message for 15 minutes is a lot quicker than a phone call that can turn into an hour for someone who likes to talk like me :lol: Less time spent.
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Postby finalfight » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:31 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:I keep a Facebook so people can find me and send me messages if they are coming back in town or whatever. I have friends that are working in Argentina and China with no other way to get in touch with me, and some day it'll be nice to be able to look up old friends that have gone their own way. I don't put dumb pictures on there, I don't post my phone number (that's what private messages are for if someone needs it), and I don't give out my address.

People are responsible for the shit that ends up on there, not the site.

With that said, this story is extremely sad, but an Internet Web site did not make that nutjob do what he did. He would have found some other reason to snap, such as when she served him with divorce papers, no doubt about that.


I agree with this. It's a place to actually look people up who have moved around and you lost touch with. People I NEVER would have talked to again for my whole life if not for the site. And they are people I miss actually, but as time went on we just drifted as people do, and it's such a fun thing to find them again and catch up. The features of having a chat, private message place and a wall are what makes it a convenient place to be. It is FREE and minutes on a phone are not. And going there to send a message for 15 minutes is a lot quicker than a phone call that can turn into an hour for someone who likes to talk like me :lol: Less time spent.


There were other methods before Facebook made it incredibly easy, you just chose not to use them.

There is usually a good reason why people lose contact in the first place and I bet some of these people are frankly gutted they have been found again. I bet for every 'friend' that is rediscovered there are twenty or more nosy-parkers who just want to see who got fat and who got bald.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:42 am

finalfight wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:I keep a Facebook so people can find me and send me messages if they are coming back in town or whatever. I have friends that are working in Argentina and China with no other way to get in touch with me, and some day it'll be nice to be able to look up old friends that have gone their own way. I don't put dumb pictures on there, I don't post my phone number (that's what private messages are for if someone needs it), and I don't give out my address.

People are responsible for the shit that ends up on there, not the site.

With that said, this story is extremely sad, but an Internet Web site did not make that nutjob do what he did. He would have found some other reason to snap, such as when she served him with divorce papers, no doubt about that.


I agree with this. It's a place to actually look people up who have moved around and you lost touch with. People I NEVER would have talked to again for my whole life if not for the site. And they are people I miss actually, but as time went on we just drifted as people do, and it's such a fun thing to find them again and catch up. The features of having a chat, private message place and a wall are what makes it a convenient place to be. It is FREE and minutes on a phone are not. And going there to send a message for 15 minutes is a lot quicker than a phone call that can turn into an hour for someone who likes to talk like me :lol: Less time spent.


There were other methods before Facebook made it incredibly easy, you just chose not to use them.

There is usually a good reason why people lose contact in the first place and I bet some of these people are frankly gutted they have been found again. I bet for every 'friend' that is rediscovered there are twenty or more nosy-parkers who just want to see who got fat and who got bald.


Other methods yes, but of course we like the easier way, that's human nature. Time's a premium for all of us. It's so much easier to get on there and send a message to someone or look them up when I have a free minute myself then to haplessly play phone tag or ask around about where they might be. Even now, there are people I have lost touch with that I would love to be in contact with again. It's just tough, even in today's connected age. For instance, how else would I keep in touch with my friend who is on a two-year consulting project in Argentina, with no cell plan or room phone? He can go online and use that free phone service, but that requires BOTH of us to be available at that time. Not always easy. It's doubly tough when relying on "traditional" methods. And again, if people don't want to be found, then why are they on there in the first place?
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Postby Melissa » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:45 am

Well goodness if it weren't for facebook I wouldn't have all those silly games to play :roll: lol, and would never have known what Disney princess I am, or if I were a fairly tale I'd be Beauty and the Beast, if I were an 80's hair band I'd be Tesla :shock: :lol: , if I were a Metallica song I'd be "Fade to Black" :twisted: , if I were a soda I'd be grape soda (wth? I hate that crap, lol), if I were a Care Bear I'd be Love-A-Lot bear...BARF! :lol: Extremely silly shit, yes, but entertaining.

But the best...if I were an 80's band I'd be Journey, gee what a shocker :roll: :lol:
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Postby finalfight » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:46 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
finalfight wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:I keep a Facebook so people can find me and send me messages if they are coming back in town or whatever. I have friends that are working in Argentina and China with no other way to get in touch with me, and some day it'll be nice to be able to look up old friends that have gone their own way. I don't put dumb pictures on there, I don't post my phone number (that's what private messages are for if someone needs it), and I don't give out my address.

People are responsible for the shit that ends up on there, not the site.

With that said, this story is extremely sad, but an Internet Web site did not make that nutjob do what he did. He would have found some other reason to snap, such as when she served him with divorce papers, no doubt about that.


I agree with this. It's a place to actually look people up who have moved around and you lost touch with. People I NEVER would have talked to again for my whole life if not for the site. And they are people I miss actually, but as time went on we just drifted as people do, and it's such a fun thing to find them again and catch up. The features of having a chat, private message place and a wall are what makes it a convenient place to be. It is FREE and minutes on a phone are not. And going there to send a message for 15 minutes is a lot quicker than a phone call that can turn into an hour for someone who likes to talk like me :lol: Less time spent.


There were other methods before Facebook made it incredibly easy, you just chose not to use them.

There is usually a good reason why people lose contact in the first place and I bet some of these people are frankly gutted they have been found again. I bet for every 'friend' that is rediscovered there are twenty or more nosy-parkers who just want to see who got fat and who got bald.


Other methods yes, but of course we like the easier way, that's human nature. Time's a premium for all of us. It's so much easier to get on there and send a message to someone or look them up when I have a free minute myself then to haplessly play phone tag or ask around about where they might be. Even now, there are people I have lost touch with that I would love to be in contact with again. It's just tough, even in today's connected age. For instance, how else would I keep in touch with my friend who is on a two-year consulting project in Argentina, with no cell plan or room phone? He can go online and use that free phone service, but that requires BOTH of us to be available at that time. Not always easy. It's doubly tough when relying on "traditional" methods. And again, if people don't want to be found, then why are they on there in the first place?


I don't know how people either lived without it. Sarcasm mode off.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:52 am

finalfight wrote:I don't know how people either lived without it. Sarcasm mode off.


Well, misanthropes do just fine without it, apparently.
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Postby Melissa » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:55 am

Forgot to add, I only joined facebook after a friend from high school found me in our alumni site and she prompted me to join since that's where MOST of our classmates keep in touch now. I'm a military brat who went to high school overseas, and I don't have that cozy little "hometown" to go back to or that way of keeping in touch with people, we're all spread out literally all over the world. There is only one friend I looked for on there, and she was beyond excited that we found each other again, not "gutted", her first words to me were "I LOVE you and have missed you so much!", lol. As for the others I've let them contact me, and it's been great catching up. I agree, if someone doesn't want to be found, why be on there to begin with? The majority on mine are family anyhow, since mine is huge. And my senior class was only about 150, so yes everybody knew everybody.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:59 am

finalfight wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:I keep a Facebook so people can find me and send me messages if they are coming back in town or whatever. I have friends that are working in Argentina and China with no other way to get in touch with me, and some day it'll be nice to be able to look up old friends that have gone their own way. I don't put dumb pictures on there, I don't post my phone number (that's what private messages are for if someone needs it), and I don't give out my address.

People are responsible for the shit that ends up on there, not the site.

With that said, this story is extremely sad, but an Internet Web site did not make that nutjob do what he did. He would have found some other reason to snap, such as when she served him with divorce papers, no doubt about that.


I agree with this. It's a place to actually look people up who have moved around and you lost touch with. People I NEVER would have talked to again for my whole life if not for the site. And they are people I miss actually, but as time went on we just drifted as people do, and it's such a fun thing to find them again and catch up. The features of having a chat, private message place and a wall are what makes it a convenient place to be. It is FREE and minutes on a phone are not. And going there to send a message for 15 minutes is a lot quicker than a phone call that can turn into an hour for someone who likes to talk like me :lol: Less time spent.


There were other methods before Facebook made it incredibly easy, you just chose not to use them.

There is usually a good reason why people lose contact in the first place and I bet some of these people are frankly gutted they have been found again. I bet for every 'friend' that is rediscovered there are twenty or more nosy-parkers who just want to see who got fat and who got bald.


Well the friends I'm talking about found ME there and I was THRILLED when they did. Not everyone wants to drift from friends. It just happens when you move 1000 miles away. Now with a site like this, it makes it possible to keep in touch. I also came from a very small high school, small graduating class, and it is a place for a cyber reunion kind of thing too, which I have not had a problem with either. It is fun to see who has balded or whatever :P But I am careful about who I add or say yes to. Look at all the people on this site me and others have trusted :shock: It could have turned out bad or harmful too, and I have met wonderful travel companions and friends here. To each his own. If you don't like it, dont use it. But don't slam those who like it or call it evil just because that is your opinion.
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Postby finalfight » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:11 am

StevePerryHair wrote:But don't slam those who like it or call it evil just because that is your opinion.


That's my right. I don't slam the users, use away, act 12, do what you want. I sincerely hope it all works out for you. I just think in the end it is a vile piece of programming that does more harm than good.

Big Brother is watching.
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Postby finalfight » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:12 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
finalfight wrote:I don't know how people either lived without it. Sarcasm mode off.


Well, misanthropes do just fine without it, apparently.


A sphincter says what... :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:30 am

finalfight wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:But don't slam those who like it or call it evil just because that is your opinion.


That's my right. I don't slam the users, use away, act 12, do what you want. I sincerely hope it all works out for you. I just think in the end it is a vile piece of programming that does more harm than good.

Big Brother is watching.


Yes, they are. And most people know that and act accordingly. I mean employers look there. They can ask for your password and see that you are a drunk or a wild person and not hire you. And you'd think people would be smart enough to delete those things before applying, but NO, sadly, people are dumb. So yes, to those who dont' think things through, it could do lots of harm. But I would say the majority of people will not be harmed. I have had just as much of a chance of being harmed on this web board than I have in facebook and I don't plan to leave either. There are stupid people EVERYWHERE!! I know, it's hard to believe!!! :lol:

And let me add, I love how you think posting on this site is acting as a mature adult!! I've seen more immaturity here than I have on my facebook page. Talk about acting 12!! I've seen some act like they were 5!!! Not me of course :oops: :lol:
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Postby SherriBerry » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:07 pm

I'm not sure what the privacy laws are or what the user agreement states, but if I'm not mistaken,
anything posted on Facebook is technically the property of the site which begs the question of how
they might use that information or the photos. People post everything from their children's photos to
the most personal information. It's an identity thief's paradise - birthdates, contact numbers, addresses,
workplace info, photos, etc.

I have no photos and almost no information on mine and I almost never go on there, but I've had to tell
people to remove pictures because I did not give my permission to be posted on someone's site that
hundreds of strangers have access too. Part of the problem is you cannot really control what others put
out there and there is no longer any sense of respecting someone else's privacy.

Most of the people requesting to be friends are people I barely knew, was not friends with and only know
well enough to greet with a 'hello' in passing, but do they ever get PO'd when I don't accept their
"friend request" and access to my page! We live in a small town and they never call, but they want access
to my personal information? Besides, if I were up to anything worth talking about, they could just go to the
Tim Horton's and hear all about it - around here, information spreads the old-fashioned way and it seems
to be faster :wink:
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Postby T-Bone » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:14 pm

BUT,,,, The user also has the options of going into settings and turning on or off the displayed info as well. In this specific case, I think the default status is SINGLE, but the user can change it. Maybe this lady never knew that or even saw that?!?!? I finally found where I could hide my phone number and e-mail addy on mine. Pissed me off to no end that it was displayed
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