OT-How Does This E Mail Make You Feel?

[madsplash]

I got this today from a friend and while I sure don't consider myself a racist, I agree with most of it.
I'm curious to think what people here think, This place is obviously a cultural melting pot and I just want to get opinions.

As a society, aren't we just too sensitive?

Anyway, read it and say what you think.




PROUD TO BE WHITE

This is great. I have been wondering about why Whites are racists, and no other race is.
Proud to be White
Michael Richards makes his point...

Michael Richards better known as Kramer
from TVs Seinfeld does make a good point.

This was his defense speech in court after making racial comments
in his comedy act. He makes some very interesting points...

Someone finally said it... How many are actually paying attention
to this? There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian
Americans, Arab Americans, etc. And then there are just Ameri-
cans. You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call
me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman' ... and
that's OK.

But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel
Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... You call me a racist. You say that
whites commit a lot of violence against you... so why are the ghettos
the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther
King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez
Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have
the NAACP. You have BET... If we had WET (White Entertainment
Television), we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would
call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance'
OUR, lives we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of
Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.

Wonder who pays for that??

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant,
but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships
...You know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US .

Yet if there were 'White colleges' That would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching
for your race and rights.

If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange,
and you're not afraid to announce it.

But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.. But, when a white police
officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-
dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you
call him a racist.

I am proud... But you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists??

There is nothing improper about this e-mail. Let's see which of you
are proud enough to send it on. I sadly don't think many will. That's
why we have lost most of OUR RIGHTS in this country. We won't
stand up for ourselves!

BE PROUD TO BE WHITE!
It's not a crime yet ..... but getting real close!

[ScarabGator]

I live in the south...dont ask.

[madsplash]

I live in the south...dont ask.

I get it, but depending upon your race, that can mean 2 very different things.

It's cool to say no more, I'm just trying to get feedback.

[ScarabGator]

I dont understand wht we cannot have "white entertainment tv" or "white history month" and I am not ashamed to say that to my black friends...in fact theyve agreed'd with me here.

[ScarabGator]

damn, Im fixing to get exiled.

[madsplash]

I dont understand wht we cannot have "white entertainment tv" or "white history month" and I am not ashamed to say that to my black friends...in fact theyve agreed'd with me here.

I feel that way, too. I'm just curious as to how this e mail makes people feel, especially people of other races than my pasty-white self.

Very curious as to the reponses I'll get here. I just hope people will be honest and not be afraid to post, either way.
I really believe we're too sensitive as a society.

C'mon guys and gals, how do you feel?

[Rhiannon]

I dont understand wht we cannot have "white entertainment tv" or "white history month" and I am not ashamed to say that to my black friends...in fact theyve agreed'd with me here.

I have said that a bajillion times. It's not equality, it's double standard. No one can argue that.

[madsplash]

damn, Im fixing to get exiled.

Why is that?

[ScarabGator]

damn, Im fixing to get exiled.

Why is that?

dude, you know the course....dont ask, dont tell, and I dont mean because you are gay. The double standard that was spoke of above...that explains it all.

[Onestepper]

I dont understand wht we cannot have "white entertainment tv" or "white history month" and I am not ashamed to say that to my black friends...in fact theyve agreed'd with me here.

I have said that a bajillion times. It's not equality, it's double standard. No one can argue that.

And when they do, they look stupid. A guy I was friends with once told that the double standard is pay back for the sins of slavery, and we should just deal with it. Oh yes he did!

[Saint John]

I try to stay away from all of the hoopla surrounding things like Black History Month, Mexican Independence Day, and the most fucking irritating one of them all, Saint Patrick's Day. I swear, everytime I see someone wearing a "Kiss me, I'm Irish" shirt I wanna fucking belt them. I'm American...period. Not Greek-American or anything else...just American. I remember when I worked for the Chicago Public Schools and we had "The Black History Bowl"...a trivia contest with kids in the school dealing with "prominent African-Americans." I informed the principal that I wasn't interested in particpipating in any capacity and he respectfully put me in Pre-K that day. Boy, was that fun.

I don't think there's anything wrong with being "proud" to be ___, but it certainly seems like caucasians have to forever pay for the sins of the KKK, the Nazis and every other perverted form of humanity that merely shared the same skin color as us...something people today are trying to put an end to. Seems highly hypocritical to me. In the end, I really don't give a fuck. I keep to myself and have no desire to push forward any agenda for any color, even my own. Whatever color that might be.

[Luvsaugeri]

It's not equality, it's double standard.

That's it.....case closed.

[Don]

We don't need WET or Martin Luther King holidays or any of that other stuff. Everything not associated with a minority is Ours (White People) by default in America. We are the majority in this country. When I go out everyday, it may not look like it here in L.A., but when you look at the whole make up of the US, even with all the minorities combined, (and throw in the illegals too) there are still more white people here in America. We still get over half of the pie. Let the minorities have the other half, We've got plenty of Holidays we brought over from Europe, plenty of TV channels that aren't minority oriented. You get the picture right? This isn't South Africa or Zimbabwe, where Whites might need their own Holidays or TV stations because the majority is African. If we start labeling things as white this or white that, we become a minority in our way of thinking, which we don't need. My bloodlines are from Yorkshire and Scotland, dating back to six years after the Mayflower landed. I don't have an inferiority complex. I know I'm not a minority or victim of race and will never accept that mentality by crying over what other Ethnic groups or nationalities get in this country.

[ScarabGator]

I dont understand wht we cannot have "white entertainment tv" or "white history month" and I am not ashamed to say that to my black friends...in fact theyve agreed'd with me here.

I have said that a bajillion times. It's not equality, it's double standard. No one can argue that.

And when they do, they look stupid. A guy I was friends with once told that the double standard is pay back for the sins of slavery, and we should just deal with it. Oh yes he did!

Holy shit Onestepper, I love the avatar!!! JEB IS THE MAN!!!!!

[Luvsaugeri]

We don't need WET or Martin Luther King holidays or any of that other stuff. Everything not associated with a minority is Ours (White People) by default in America. We are the majority in this country. When I go out everyday, it may not look like it here in L.A., but when you look at the whole make up of the US, even with all the minorities combined, (and throw in the illegals too) there are still more white people here in America. We still get over half of the pie. Let the minorities have the other half, We've got plenty of Holidays we brought over from Europe, plenty of TV channels that aren't minority oriented. You get the picture right? This isn't South Africa or Zimbabwe, where Whites might need their own Holidays or TV stations because the majority is African. If we start labeling things as white this or white that, we become a minority in our way of thinking, which we don't need. My bloodlines are from Yorkshire and Scotland, dating back to six years after the Mayflower landed. I don't have an inferiority complex. I know I'm not a minority or victim of race and will never accept that mentality by crying over what other Ethnic groups or nationalities get in this country.

I think I read somewhere that we will be the moniority in something like 33 yrs.

[ScarabGator]

We don't need WET or Martin Luther King holidays or any of that other stuff. Everything not associated with a minority is Ours (White People) by default in America. We are the majority in this country. When I go out everyday, it may not look like it here in L.A., but when you look at the whole make up of the US, even with all the minorities combined, (and throw in the illegals too) there are still more white people here in America. We still get over half of the pie. Let the minorities have the other half, We've got plenty of Holidays we brought over from Europe, plenty of TV channels that aren't minority oriented. You get the picture right? This isn't South Africa or Zimbabwe, where Whites might need their own Holidays or TV stations because the majority is African. If we start labeling things as white this or white that, we become a minority in our way of thinking, which we don't need. My bloodlines are from Yorkshire and Scotland, dating back to six years after the Mayflower landed. I don't have an inferiority complex. I know I'm not a minority or victim of race and will never accept that mentality by crying over what other Ethnic groups or nationalities get in this country.

I think I read somewhere that we will be the moniority in something like 33 yrs.

\Fuck that, not here in the woods....

[Luvsaugeri]

We don't need WET or Martin Luther King holidays or any of that other stuff. Everything not associated with a minority is Ours (White People) by default in America. We are the majority in this country. When I go out everyday, it may not look like it here in L.A., but when you look at the whole make up of the US, even with all the minorities combined, (and throw in the illegals too) there are still more white people here in America. We still get over half of the pie. Let the minorities have the other half, We've got plenty of Holidays we brought over from Europe, plenty of TV channels that aren't minority oriented. You get the picture right? This isn't South Africa or Zimbabwe, where Whites might need their own Holidays or TV stations because the majority is African. If we start labeling things as white this or white that, we become a minority in our way of thinking, which we don't need. My bloodlines are from Yorkshire and Scotland, dating back to six years after the Mayflower landed. I don't have an inferiority complex. I know I'm not a minority or victim of race and will never accept that mentality by crying over what other Ethnic groups or nationalities get in this country.

I think I read somewhere that we will be the moniority in something like 33 yrs.

\Fuck that, not here in the woods....

I need to head to your woods!

[ScarabGator]

We don't need WET or Martin Luther King holidays or any of that other stuff. Everything not associated with a minority is Ours (White People) by default in America. We are the majority in this country. When I go out everyday, it may not look like it here in L.A., but when you look at the whole make up of the US, even with all the minorities combined, (and throw in the illegals too) there are still more white people here in America. We still get over half of the pie. Let the minorities have the other half, We've got plenty of Holidays we brought over from Europe, plenty of TV channels that aren't minority oriented. You get the picture right? This isn't South Africa or Zimbabwe, where Whites might need their own Holidays or TV stations because the majority is African. If we start labeling things as white this or white that, we become a minority in our way of thinking, which we don't need. My bloodlines are from Yorkshire and Scotland, dating back to six years after the Mayflower landed. I don't have an inferiority complex. I know I'm not a minority or victim of race and will never accept that mentality by crying over what other Ethnic groups or nationalities get in this country.

I think I read somewhere that we will be the moniority in something like 33 yrs.

\Fuck that, not here in the woods....

I need to head to your woods!

C'mon baby...Ill keep you warm.....

[Jana]

I dont understand wht we cannot have "white entertainment tv" or "white history month" and I am not ashamed to say that to my black friends...in fact theyve agreed'd with me here.

We have "white entertainment TV." It's called ABC, NBC, CBS. Sorry, but when I watch TV I really get irritated that the majority of the shows are white with say the ONE black judge or ONE black cop or ONE black friend or same with other races. Why can't these shows be more diverse when casting? Grey's Anatomy was impressive the first year: Three black main characters, one Asian. That's how rare it is for me to notice and applaud them. How sad. Come on, SG, say it ain't so, that you can't see that.

[ScarabGator]

I dont understand wht we cannot have "white entertainment tv" or "white history month" and I am not ashamed to say that to my black friends...in fact theyve agreed'd with me here.

We have "white entertainment TV." It's called ABC, NBC, CBS. Sorry, but when I watch TV I really get irritated that the majority of the shows are white with say the ONE black judge or ONE black cop or ONE black friend or same with other races. Why can't these shows be more diverse when casting? Grey's Anatomy was impressive the first year: Three black main characters, one Asian. That's how rare it is for me to notice and applaud them. How sad. Come on, SG, say it ain't so, that you can't see that.

no Jana, Im sorry but I cant.

[Don]

I dont understand wht we cannot have "white entertainment tv" or "white history month" and I am not ashamed to say that to my black friends...in fact theyve agreed'd with me here.

We have "white entertainment TV." It's called ABC, NBC, CBS. Sorry, but when I watch TV I really get irritated that the majority of the shows are white with say the ONE black judge or ONE black cop or ONE black friend or same with other races. Why can't these shows be more diverse when casting? Grey's Anatomy was impressive the first year: Three black main characters, one Asian. That's how rare it is for me to notice and applaud them. How sad. Come on, SG, say it ain't so, that you can't see that.

Is that reality though? My company has 300 employees. 31 are asian, 24 are latino and 9 are black. I don't see group of friends walking around where half are white and half are black. That's fucking fantasy. On UPN and the WB, they had quite a few shows that had 90 percent minority casts. It didn't stop white people from watching them. 70 percent of the market for Rap and R&B is white. We don't buy shit or watch shows because of the skin color of the cast. I don't sit there and count how many minorities are on each show. They pick the best actor for that part. If the majority of actors are white, chances are better for them then the 10% of minorities applying for the same role. You have a bigger pool of talent to chose from. Don't put an actor who shouldn't win the part just so you can have cast that looks like the Rainbow.

[Michigan Girl]

I agree with G-boy.....

Although, I love Sandra Oh!!!!
We also don't hire based on skin color....

[Jana]

I dont understand wht we cannot have "white entertainment tv" or "white history month" and I am not ashamed to say that to my black friends...in fact theyve agreed'd with me here.

We have "white entertainment TV." It's called ABC, NBC, CBS. Sorry, but when I watch TV I really get irritated that the majority of the shows are white with say the ONE black judge or ONE black cop or ONE black friend or same with other races. Why can't these shows be more diverse when casting? Grey's Anatomy was impressive the first year: Three black main characters, one Asian. That's how rare it is for me to notice and applaud them. How sad. Come on, SG, say it ain't so, that you can't see that.

Is that reality though? My company has 300 employees. 31 are asian, 24 are latino and 9 are black. I don't see group of friends walking around where half are white and half are black. That's fucking fantasy. On UPN and the WB, they had quite a few shows that had 90 percent minority casts. It didn't stop white people from watching them. 70 percent of the market for Rap and R&B is white. We don't buy shit or watch shows because of the skin color of the cast. I don't sit there and count how many minorities are on each show. They pick the best actor for that part. If the majority of actors are white, chances are better for them then the 10% of minorities applying for the same role. You have a bigger pool of talent to chose from. Don't put an actor who shouldn't win the part just so you can have cast that looks like the Rainbow.

I'm not saying half and half. I'm saying you can't have more than the one token minority as a lead or with a recurring role on most shows? Come on. It's mostly white men running the entertainment industry. If you don't think there's not racism in the entertainment industry, well, then I can't change your mind. Nothing changes until someone decides to, just like Grey's Anatomy example.

[Luvsaugeri]

Grey's still has 2 black main characters and one asian. Plus one latino in Callie. I'm not sure I'm unerstanding the point you are making.

[Jana]

Grey's still has 2 black main characters and one asian. Plus one latino in Callie. I'm not sure I'm unerstanding the point you are making.

That they are a diverse cast, which is very rare on the major networks.

[Don]

If I have a TV show about the LAPD, would you prefer that every white officer had a minority partner in his car as a second officer, Or are you saying 4 cars out of 10? Even that wouldn't be reality but would that make you feel better, what do want exactly?

[Luvsaugeri]

Grey's still has 2 black main characters and one asian. Plus one latino in Callie. I'm not sure I'm unerstanding the point you are making.

That they are a diverse cast, which is very rare on the major networks.

Well I think it depends on the show. For example.....Cosby was about a black family. So there weren't many white people. And Brothers and Sisters (for example) is about a white family so there aren't many blacks.

My opinion is that blacks are very well represented on TV and in entertainment in general. Other minorities....not so much.

[KDOUBLEU]

Hi Everyone, Ive been lurking around here for awhile but have not posted anything yet.I hope its ok to jump in here I found this quite interesting That e-mail says pretty much everything I have thought at least once in my adult life. I work at a job where I deal with the worst of the bunch most of the time.Its hard at times to not be alittle racist. I try hard not to be. It seems there is always someone getting in my face about something. Im trying not to ramble on here but i can see the point they are trying to get at with this e-mail. Did that make any sense? Ill shut up now!!

[Michigan Girl]

Hi Everyone, Ive been lurking around here for awhile but have not posted anything yet.I hope its ok to jump in here I found this quite interesting That e-mail says pretty much everything I have thought at least once in my adult life. I work at a job where I deal with the worst of the bunch most of the time.Its hard at times to not be alittle racist. I try hard not to be. It seems there is always someone getting in my face about something. Im trying not to ramble on here but i can see the point they are trying to get at with this e-mail. Did that make any sense? Ill shut up now!!

Of course it made sense...you're from Michigan!!!

WELCOME and watch out for the BUCKEYE's....(you're gonna love them)

[Luvsaugeri]

Hi Everyone, Ive been lurking around here for awhile but have not posted anything yet.I hope its ok to jump in here I found this quite interesting That e-mail says pretty much everything I have thought at least once in my adult life. I work at a job where I deal with the worst of the bunch most of the time.Its hard at times to not be alittle racist. I try hard not to be. It seems there is always someone getting in my face about something. Im trying not to ramble on here but i can see the point they are trying to get at with this e-mail. Did that make any sense? Ill shut up now!!

Of course it made sense...you're from Michigan!!!

WELCOME and watch out for the BUCKEYE's....(you're gonna love them)

What's not to love???

Welcome KDOUBLEU.....your post made perfect sense!!