Is this the end ?!

[Gideon]

He should respect the band more than that (and in turn, they should respect him by not wearing him out like they did Perry and Soto).

Don't you mean Perry and Augeri?

Erm... I don't know what you're talking about.

Nicely edited Sir!

Thank you, sir!

Words to live by: Cover your ass (lest Saint John send you creepy emails, phonecalls, and text messages :lol).

So what you're saying is 'cover your ass when Saint John is around'? Hmmm.

You know you're sad when the only date on your calender is Miley Cyrus's 18th birthday.

[Jana]

I don't know if he has been as disciplined towards that goal this time as he's more comfortable with Journey and been doing his own thing solo-wise.

I love Arnel's voice and he has an award-winning personality. My problem is that any problems born from his babysteps into a solo career shouldn't exist at all. Solo careers have been nearly damning for Journey in the past and you'd think they'd have learned from their mistakes; Pineda's function is to be the charismatic lead singer for Journey. This may sound harsh, but I'm not interested in an Arnel Pineda solo career. He should respect the band more than that (and in turn, they should respect him by not wearing him out like they did Perry and Soto).

I have no problem with him over there in December making appearances. Gideon, Journey has never played in the Phils. I think his singing over there at different appearances was good publicity for their upcoming tour. Win-win situation. Probably was encouraged by JM. But some of these Journey songs don't come quite as naturally to Arnel, like Don't Stop Believing. He sang that over ithere n November and it wasn't his best performance. I think his voice has to be in tip-top shape for that song. I believe that song and some like it he shines on when he's really working on his vocal exercises he talked about and diction coach and really singing them more. Like Jonathan said, Arnel's voice actually got better mid way in the concert tour b/c his voice was then used to singing continually in the upper register and stretched out; whereas, b/f joinig Journey he never sang in that upper register continually. I think maybe he was a little lax heading into this concert about vocal preparation b/c of preparing for his charity concerts so close to the Super Bowl. Maybe nerves played a part too. Probably a lot of factors.

[mdaemon]

I think the point was, this time at least, his Journey appearance may have suffered due to his recent solo outings.

I never thought it would as the amount of shows he do as a solo artist is a lot less than what he was doing when touring with Journey. However, judging from his Superbowl performance alone, I think it may have. Alas his sub-par performance did happen at the more important event that Journey participated in. Oh well, I'm sure he'll bounce back as what he did after the Chile performance.

[Carla777]

I think the point was, this time at least, his Journey appearance may have suffered due to his recent solo outings.

I never thought it would as the amount of shows he do as a solo artist is a lot less than what he was doing when touring with Journey. However, judging from his Superbowl performance alone, I think it may have. Alas his sub-par performance did happen at the more important event that Journey participated in. Oh well, I'm sure he'll bounce back as what he did after the Chile performance.

what's wrong with the chile performances uh? hahahaha...it was his baptizm of fire..anyway i enjoy watch Journey here

[Jana]

I think the point was, this time at least, his Journey appearance may have suffered due to his recent solo outings.

I never thought it would as the amount of shows he do as a solo artist is a lot less than what he was doing when touring with Journey. However, judging from his Superbowl performance alone, I think it may have. Alas his sub-par performance did happen at the more important event that Journey participated in. Oh well, I'm sure he'll bounce back as what he did after the Chile performance.

I don't believe the month and a half one song performances hurt him in November and December here and there, probably good for his voice, to sing. But probably should cut it off by the end of December and not take on a mini concert tour b/f a big appearance like this, and start focusing on preparing for Journey only from January on. He is 41 after all, and Journey songs are demanding, as he saw by the end of the last concert tour,

[RocknRoll]

I think Arnel just needs to figure out whether he wants to be a big fish in a small pond (PI and other Filipino fans) or a medium size fish with the Journey fanbase. Personally, I"ve been very disappointed about his priorities but then I'm a Journey fan. Arnel has been fantastic with Journey live so this is very disappointing. The excuse that he had a cold just doesn't work especially since his priorities were on his solo gigs. Yeah, I know it was for charity, but the best way to get funds for charities is to keep a high profile and sound great with a great band and gain a larger fanbase.

[finalfight]

I think Arnel just needs to figure out whether he wants to be a big fish in a small pond (PI and other Filipino fans) or a medium size fish with the Journey fanbase. Personally, I"ve been very disappointed about his priorities but then I'm a Journey fan. Arnel has been fantastic with Journey live so this is very disappointing. The excuse that he had a cold just doesn't work especially since his priorities were on his solo gigs. Yeah, I know it was for charity, but the best way to get funds for charities is to keep a high profile and sound great with a great band and gain a larger fanbase.

He had a cold? Were was this reported?

[Jana]

I think Arnel just needs to figure out whether he wants to be a big fish in a small pond (PI and other Filipino fans) or a medium size fish with the Journey fanbase. Personally, I"ve been very disappointed about his priorities but then I'm a Journey fan. Arnel has been fantastic with Journey live so this is very disappointing. The excuse that he had a cold just doesn't work especially since his priorities were on his solo gigs. Yeah, I know it was for charity, but the best way to get funds for charities is to keep a high profile and sound great with a great band and gain a larger fanbase.

He had a cold? Were was this reported?

His fans who went to concerts Friday and another day mentioned he had a cold. It was mentioned b/f the Super Bowl performance in a thread on his appearance in California.

[weatherman90]

This is off topic, but....

Does anyone know how I can get in touch with Arnel or the folks who run his website??

They are using my photo on the front page (The Journey band shot at the top). I'm okay with it, but I would like to be credited!

Send me a PM if you know of a way

[Michigan Girl]

This is off topic, but....

Does anyone know how I can get in touch with Arnel or the folks who run his website??

They are using my photo on the front page (The Journey band shot at the top). I'm okay with it, but I would like to be credited!

Send me a PM if you know of a way

WOW...it's nice!!! Rip will know!!

[weatherman90]

This is off topic, but....

Does anyone know how I can get in touch with Arnel or the folks who run his website??

They are using my photo on the front page (The Journey band shot at the top). I'm okay with it, but I would like to be credited!

Send me a PM if you know of a way

WOW...it's nice!!! Rip will know!!

Thanks! Yeah I was just thinking of Rip, he has the inside scoop.

[Behshad]

Sure, a cold can be accepted by the fans and those who have seen Arnel live,,,, but considering the fact that this performance was going to help Journey to get more fans , specially those who think Perry is still the singer, I think this did more harm than good fir both Journey and Arnel. It's much harder to try to explain it with a cold to the average Joe who happened to catch Journey live on TV today.

[RocknRoll]

A killer performance at the SuperBowl would have totally silenced all the naysayers. Arnel is certainly capable of that performance.

[LazzMan]

Here it is. He sounds like a Filipino cover singer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge-xlQV66hA

[Jana]

Here it is. He sounds like a Filipino cover singer:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge-xlQV66hA

Phuleeez. He sounds like a singer who gave a good performance and not a great performance.

[The Sushi Hunter]

They certainly aren't going to call it quits, but I do think that moving Arnel and his family to the US would be a smart move. I'm surprised they didn't move him here as soon as he got the gig.

Plus having Arnel in the Philippines so much, he may have some problems with his health. Tons of disease over there, plus it's very easy to get food poisoning too. Over the years that I was both visiting and living there, I was always coming down with sicknesses. Colds and sore throats are 10x worse in the Philippines then they are over here. Plus the mosquito's are very leathal over there. Little tiny bastards, about 1/4 the size that they are over here in the U.S. but the bite itches for around three weeks straight. Getting bit by them, you will wake up in the middle of the night to find that you've been scratching the bites while you were sleeping until they bleed. So having Arnel out of that environment altogether, is sure to be very good for his health.

[Behshad]

A killer performance at the SuperBowl would have totally silenced all the naysayers. Arnel is certainly capable of that performance.

This isn't even about silencing the naysayers. He did that last year with the great tour they did. And you're right , he IS capable of it. That's what bother me the most.

And Jana. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

[jrny84]

The performance itself was not very good. I getting really freaked out with what Arnel was doing with eyes. It almost looked like he was possessed by something when he would roll his eyes back into his head. There are definetly some things he needs to work on as a performer.

[mdaemon]

Here it is. He sounds like a Filipino cover singer:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge-xlQV66hA

Phuleeez. He sounds like a singer who gave a good performance and not a great performance.

Jana, there is nothing wrong with being a Filipino cover singer.

[scarygirl]

As a quintisential Steve Perry fan, I didn't think it was that bad. Case of nerves more than anything.

[LazzMan]

I was referring to the noticeable accent. I didn't say it was bad. That's how he got the job in the first place, right?

I have heard him perform much better though.

[Jana]

Here it is. He sounds like a Filipino cover singer:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge-xlQV66hA

Phuleeez. He sounds like a singer who gave a good performance and not a great performance.

Jana, there is nothing wrong with being a Filipino cover singer.

It was a dig, Mdameon, and meant to be taken that way. My take on the comment.

[StevePerryHair]

I've seen him live enough to know that wasn't his best or his normal performance. All I can say is he has been nervous in the past, and we have seen that, at the beginning with Journey. He had a long break, and he knew the world was watching. Maybe too much pressure? It's too bad because I know it's not always like that but many who have not seen them live yet with Arnel won't. I don't think it was horrible, but it was not what I have heard in the past.

[RocknRoll]

I've seen him live enough to know that wasn't his best or his normal performance. All I can say is he has been nervous in the past, and we have seen that, at the beginning with Journey. He had a long break, and he knew the world was watching. Maybe too much pressure? It's too bad because I know it's not always like that but many who have not seen them live yet with Arnel won't. I don't think it was horrible, but it was not what I have heard in the past.

I certainly agree. AP has done much better

[mdaemon]

They certainly aren't going to call it quits, but I do think that moving Arnel and his family to the US would be a smart move. I'm surprised they didn't move him here as soon as he got the gig.

Plus having Arnel in the Philippines so much, he may have some problems with his health. Tons of disease over there, plus it's very easy to get food poisoning too. Over the years that I was both visiting and living there, I was always coming down with sicknesses. Colds and sore throats are 10x worse in the Philippines then they are over here. Plus the mosquito's are very leathal over there. Little tiny bastards, about 1/4 the size that they are over here in the U.S. but the bite itches for around three weeks straight. Getting bit by them, you will wake up in the middle of the night to find that you've been scratching the bites while you were sleeping until they bleed. So having Arnel out of that environment altogether, is sure to be very good for his health.

Yeah that fucking shit hole of a country! A really fucking horrible place!

Let us not kid ourselves, ok? Arnel didn't grow up in an air-conditioned mansion nor was he eating only steaks and caviars from where he came from. At one point, he slept with mosquitoes on a park bench in Luneta and would have probably eaten out of date food several times in his life. Food poisoning and mosquito bites are the least of his worries.

Dude, I don't know how long and how long ago you visited the Philippines but it has changed a lot now. It may be worth visiting again before you make remarks that put us in a bad light.

[Enigma869]

what's wrong with the chile performances uh?

I can answer that. The performance of "Stone In Love" in Chile was one of the worst performances of that song by ANYONE I've ever heard perform it. It was a complete DISASTER!

[Jana]

A killer performance at the SuperBowl would have totally silenced all the naysayers. Arnel is certainly capable of that performance.

This isn't even about silencing the naysayers. He did that last year with the great tour they did. And you're right , he IS capable of it. That's what bother me the most.

And Jana. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

I'm missing what you're saying, Behshad. I said so many things in this thread. What am I in denial about?

It wouldn't be the first time I've been told that.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Yeah that fucking shit hole of a country! A really fucking horrible place!

Sorry to see you feel that way about your own country, which obviously you do. Because there was nothing I said in the post your responding to that indicates I share your same ill-feelings with you.

[Carla777]

what's wrong with the chile performances uh?

I can answer that. The performance of "Stone In Love" in Chile was one of the worst performances of that song by ANYONE I've ever heard perform it. It was a complete DISASTER!

I was being sarcastic about my question...i was on Viña del Mar show..and yeah arnel was nervious, and stone in love wasn't good but i enjoy the whole show no matter what..it was after all Journey in Chile, could not believe it!

ps. The Viña del mar festival wasn't the only show that Journey make with arnel here, and he give a great performance after his debut in tv
Saludos

[Rip Rokken]

This is off topic, but....

Does anyone know how I can get in touch with Arnel or the folks who run his website??

They are using my photo on the front page (The Journey band shot at the top). I'm okay with it, but I would like to be credited!

Send me a PM if you know of a way

WOW...it's nice!!! Rip will know!!

Thanks! Yeah I was just thinking of Rip, he has the inside scoop.

Hi -

Yes, write to the webmaster, Rodel. He's listed in the members section as "Admin Rodel". I'm sure he will fix you up. Great pic, btw!