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Behshad wrote:And to answer the question asked by many of you " Is Neal a member here at MR?"
This picture confirms the answer, YES HE IS !
Jeremey wrote:
But to find out he did 2 gigs in 3 days before this event, I felt was pretty reckless, even if they were scheduled before the show. Super Bowl takes precedence over anything, anytime. Even if he did the show on Friday and not Saturday, a cross country flight shuffling through airports the day before the show may well have been just as bad as singing. To spend 8 hours dehydrating in a plane before performing for nearly 100 million people just doesn't make sense....
RE Journey's management, I believe they are 100% handled by John Baruck now. I don't believe Tom Consolo even works for Azoff Management right now. But yes, the interest is not in promoting the career, which is partly the culture at Azoff Management - they don't have to break new acts, they just essentially broker mega-deals for acts already in their prime. The relationship between Azoff Management and Journey is basically - You do whatever you want, we'll field and develop any interest RE your catalog (and deal with Mr P in the process) and we'll collect our several million dollars a year commissions. I don't know if anyone really thought out the consequences of not making sure AP was in Florida several days before the show.
Gideon wrote:Behshad wrote:And to answer the question asked by many of you " Is Neal a member here at MR?"
This picture confirms the answer, YES HE IS !
Andrew needs to devise a means to link votes to posters so we can see who the fuck voted for that.
Behshad wrote:Gideon wrote:Behshad wrote:And to answer the question asked by many of you " Is Neal a member here at MR?"
This picture confirms the answer, YES HE IS !
Andrew needs to devise a means to link votes to posters so we can see who the fuck voted for that.
Cant you read, boy?
N E A L
Gideon wrote:Behshad wrote:And to answer the question asked by many of you " Is Neal a member here at MR?"
This picture confirms the answer, YES HE IS !
Andrew needs to devise a means to link votes to posters so we can see who the fuck voted for that.
Rockindeano wrote:Gideon wrote:Behshad wrote:And to answer the question asked by many of you " Is Neal a member here at MR?"
This picture confirms the answer, YES HE IS !
Andrew needs to devise a means to link votes to posters so we can see who the fuck voted for that.
My guess is either Rip Rokken, or some Pinoy soldier, and more importantly to me, who were the 4 dumbfucks who voted Journey better than Springsteen. My guess would be Fact Finder, St John, ewhmatt and Brywool. All haters.
Gideon wrote:The White Sox media cloud was what started the resurgence of "Don't Stop Believin'" -- please don't make it seem as though it was something recent or that it was anywhere near its atmosphere-piercing levels of superstardom. He was promoting that song just as much (if not more) than Journey using the SuperBowl to promote Revelation.
There's no way to defend Perry's lackluster performance. He was hoarse? Arnel had a cold. It was impromptu? He could have said no. He wasn't promoting anything? He was, de facto.
Excuses don't mitigate how poorly Arnel and Perry performed relative to their better moments.
Gideon wrote:Blueskies wrote:I'm not about to say Perry never had any off performances because I havent heard every performance he ever made and I'm sure he did have some on occasion with their heavy tour schedule..that would be expected....
Correct. Perry was among the best ever, but he was hardly infallible. The current state of his voice is resounding proof that the 'vocal god' is, actually, a mere mortal.but come on dude..the use of that clip as an example does nothing at all to prove your case because that occasion was not a performance and I can't believe your trying to make it out as one.
Perry was singing on national television in front of a considerable crowd. It was a performance by strict definition.That was a very impromto sing along at best and I'm positive it wasn't planned out in advance....someone just decided to call him up to the mic.
He could have said "no."He was having fun with the team and had been screaming that day as a baseball fan and had not sang at all in a very long time...so you are not going to prove a point with that clip...you'll have to find another example.![]()
I'm not saying he couldn't have done better, but I'm traditionally not one for lame excuses. Arnel reportedly had a cold and just got back from a solo performance the night before. Does that mitigate his lackluster attempt at the Superbowl? No.
The claim was that Perry wouldn't have fucked up as badly. He did.
Rockindeano wrote:Gideon wrote:Behshad wrote:And to answer the question asked by many of you " Is Neal a member here at MR?"
This picture confirms the answer, YES HE IS !
Andrew needs to devise a means to link votes to posters so we can see who the fuck voted for that.
My guess is either Rip Rokken, or some Pinoy soldier, and more importantly to me, who were the 4 dumbfucks who voted Journey better than Springsteen. My guess would be Fact Finder, St John, ewhmatt and Brywool. All haters.
Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:The White Sox media cloud was what started the resurgence of "Don't Stop Believin'" -- please don't make it seem as though it was something recent or that it was anywhere near its atmosphere-piercing levels of superstardom. He was promoting that song just as much (if not more) than Journey using the SuperBowl to promote Revelation.
There's no way to defend Perry's lackluster performance. He was hoarse? Arnel had a cold. It was impromptu? He could have said no. He wasn't promoting anything? He was, de facto.
Excuses don't mitigate how poorly Arnel and Perry performed relative to their better moments.
The movie's Monster and the Wedding Singer restarted the DSB resurgence, but you can believe what you want, your memories of what was going on in 2003 may be different than mine.
Gideon wrote:Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:The White Sox media cloud was what started the resurgence of "Don't Stop Believin'" -- please don't make it seem as though it was something recent or that it was anywhere near its atmosphere-piercing levels of superstardom. He was promoting that song just as much (if not more) than Journey using the SuperBowl to promote Revelation.
There's no way to defend Perry's lackluster performance. He was hoarse? Arnel had a cold. It was impromptu? He could have said no. He wasn't promoting anything? He was, de facto.
Excuses don't mitigate how poorly Arnel and Perry performed relative to their better moments.
The movie's Monster and the Wedding Singer restarted the DSB resurgence, but you can believe what you want, your memories of what was going on in 2003 may be different than mine.
DSB was hardly topping the charts in the fucking Wedding Singer. I'll retract my statement that it "started" the resurgence of DSB, you've got me there, but it certainly brought it to a greater cultural awareness than the Wedding Singer and, arguably, Monster. You're making it out to be that Perry's appearance at the games and the White Sox making DSB their theme song offered nothing to the awareness of the song.
That simply isn't the case. At all.
Edit: BS, just for kicks, compare the quality of performances. Who did better: Perry at the White Sox or Pineda at the Superbowl?
Ehwmatt wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Gideon wrote:Behshad wrote:And to answer the question asked by many of you " Is Neal a member here at MR?"
This picture confirms the answer, YES HE IS !
Andrew needs to devise a means to link votes to posters so we can see who the fuck voted for that.
My guess is either Rip Rokken, or some Pinoy soldier, and more importantly to me, who were the 4 dumbfucks who voted Journey better than Springsteen. My guess would be Fact Finder, St John, ewhmatt and Brywool. All haters.
Sorry dipshit, I don't vote in these polls.
Are you honestly stupid enough to believe I hate Bruce? If you want, I'll take a screen cap of the Bruce shit I have on my external HD right now. Believe it or not, someone's politics don't determine the worthiness of their music, athletic abilities, writing abilities, or whatever else for me. Tough for someone like you to believe, I know.
Rockindeano wrote:My guess is either Rip Rokken, or some Pinoy soldier, and more importantly to me, who were the 4 dumbfucks who voted Journey better than Springsteen. My guess would be Fact Finder, St John, ewhmatt and Brywool. All haters.
Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:The White Sox media cloud was what started the resurgence of "Don't Stop Believin'" -- please don't make it seem as though it was something recent or that it was anywhere near its atmosphere-piercing levels of superstardom. He was promoting that song just as much (if not more) than Journey using the SuperBowl to promote Revelation.
There's no way to defend Perry's lackluster performance. He was hoarse? Arnel had a cold. It was impromptu? He could have said no. He wasn't promoting anything? He was, de facto.
Excuses don't mitigate how poorly Arnel and Perry performed relative to their better moments.
The movie's Monster and the Wedding Singer restarted the DSB resurgence, but you can believe what you want, your memories of what was going on in 2003 may be different than mine.
DSB was hardly topping the charts in the fucking Wedding Singer. I'll retract my statement that it "started" the resurgence of DSB, you've got me there, but it certainly brought it to a greater cultural awareness than the Wedding Singer and, arguably, Monster. You're making it out to be that Perry's appearance at the games and the White Sox making DSB their theme song offered nothing to the awareness of the song.
That simply isn't the case. At all.
Edit: BS, just for kicks, compare the quality of performances. Who did better: Perry at the White Sox or Pineda at the Superbowl?
Without a band backing him up....Perry
Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:The White Sox media cloud was what started the resurgence of "Don't Stop Believin'" -- please don't make it seem as though it was something recent or that it was anywhere near its atmosphere-piercing levels of superstardom. He was promoting that song just as much (if not more) than Journey using the SuperBowl to promote Revelation.
There's no way to defend Perry's lackluster performance. He was hoarse? Arnel had a cold. It was impromptu? He could have said no. He wasn't promoting anything? He was, de facto.
Excuses don't mitigate how poorly Arnel and Perry performed relative to their better moments.
The movie's Monster and the Wedding Singer restarted the DSB resurgence, but you can believe what you want, your memories of what was going on in 2003 may be different than mine.
DSB was hardly topping the charts in the fucking Wedding Singer. I'll retract my statement that it "started" the resurgence of DSB, you've got me there, but it certainly brought it to a greater cultural awareness than the Wedding Singer and, arguably, Monster. You're making it out to be that Perry's appearance at the games and the White Sox making DSB their theme song offered nothing to the awareness of the song.
That simply isn't the case. At all.
Edit: BS, just for kicks, compare the quality of performances. Who did better: Perry at the White Sox or Pineda at the Superbowl?
Without a band backing him up....Perry
Gideon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:The White Sox media cloud was what started the resurgence of "Don't Stop Believin'" -- please don't make it seem as though it was something recent or that it was anywhere near its atmosphere-piercing levels of superstardom. He was promoting that song just as much (if not more) than Journey using the SuperBowl to promote Revelation.
There's no way to defend Perry's lackluster performance. He was hoarse? Arnel had a cold. It was impromptu? He could have said no. He wasn't promoting anything? He was, de facto.
Excuses don't mitigate how poorly Arnel and Perry performed relative to their better moments.
The movie's Monster and the Wedding Singer restarted the DSB resurgence, but you can believe what you want, your memories of what was going on in 2003 may be different than mine.
DSB was hardly topping the charts in the fucking Wedding Singer. I'll retract my statement that it "started" the resurgence of DSB, you've got me there, but it certainly brought it to a greater cultural awareness than the Wedding Singer and, arguably, Monster. You're making it out to be that Perry's appearance at the games and the White Sox making DSB their theme song offered nothing to the awareness of the song.
That simply isn't the case. At all.
Edit: BS, just for kicks, compare the quality of performances. Who did better: Perry at the White Sox or Pineda at the Superbowl?
Without a band backing him up....Perry
You, ma'am, should consider a career in stand up comedy.
But I do have a suspicion that Blueskies will say the same thing.
Behshad wrote:
do it !do it! do it !do it !and while youre at it , do a screen cap of all your porn
Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:The White Sox media cloud was what started the resurgence of "Don't Stop Believin'" -- please don't make it seem as though it was something recent or that it was anywhere near its atmosphere-piercing levels of superstardom. He was promoting that song just as much (if not more) than Journey using the SuperBowl to promote Revelation.
There's no way to defend Perry's lackluster performance. He was hoarse? Arnel had a cold. It was impromptu? He could have said no. He wasn't promoting anything? He was, de facto.
Excuses don't mitigate how poorly Arnel and Perry performed relative to their better moments.
The movie's Monster and the Wedding Singer restarted the DSB resurgence, but you can believe what you want, your memories of what was going on in 2003 may be different than mine.
DSB was hardly topping the charts in the fucking Wedding Singer. I'll retract my statement that it "started" the resurgence of DSB, you've got me there, but it certainly brought it to a greater cultural awareness than the Wedding Singer and, arguably, Monster. You're making it out to be that Perry's appearance at the games and the White Sox making DSB their theme song offered nothing to the awareness of the song.
That simply isn't the case. At all.
Edit: BS, just for kicks, compare the quality of performances. Who did better: Perry at the White Sox or Pineda at the Superbowl?
Without a band backing him up....Perry
You, ma'am, should consider a career in stand up comedy.
But I do have a suspicion that Blueskies will say the same thing.
Thank you.....for you!!!![]()
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gft5-6klkMA
Gideon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:The White Sox media cloud was what started the resurgence of "Don't Stop Believin'" -- please don't make it seem as though it was something recent or that it was anywhere near its atmosphere-piercing levels of superstardom. He was promoting that song just as much (if not more) than Journey using the SuperBowl to promote Revelation.
There's no way to defend Perry's lackluster performance. He was hoarse? Arnel had a cold. It was impromptu? He could have said no. He wasn't promoting anything? He was, de facto.
Excuses don't mitigate how poorly Arnel and Perry performed relative to their better moments.
The movie's Monster and the Wedding Singer restarted the DSB resurgence, but you can believe what you want, your memories of what was going on in 2003 may be different than mine.
DSB was hardly topping the charts in the fucking Wedding Singer. I'll retract my statement that it "started" the resurgence of DSB, you've got me there, but it certainly brought it to a greater cultural awareness than the Wedding Singer and, arguably, Monster. You're making it out to be that Perry's appearance at the games and the White Sox making DSB their theme song offered nothing to the awareness of the song.
That simply isn't the case. At all.
Edit: BS, just for kicks, compare the quality of performances. Who did better: Perry at the White Sox or Pineda at the Superbowl?
Without a band backing him up....Perry
You, ma'am, should consider a career in stand up comedy.
But I do have a suspicion that Blueskies will say the same thing.
Thank you.....for you!!!![]()
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gft5-6klkMA
Well, golly gee, that sure was disrespectful.
Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:The White Sox media cloud was what started the resurgence of "Don't Stop Believin'" -- please don't make it seem as though it was something recent or that it was anywhere near its atmosphere-piercing levels of superstardom. He was promoting that song just as much (if not more) than Journey using the SuperBowl to promote Revelation.
There's no way to defend Perry's lackluster performance. He was hoarse? Arnel had a cold. It was impromptu? He could have said no. He wasn't promoting anything? He was, de facto.
Excuses don't mitigate how poorly Arnel and Perry performed relative to their better moments.
The movie's Monster and the Wedding Singer restarted the DSB resurgence, but you can believe what you want, your memories of what was going on in 2003 may be different than mine.
DSB was hardly topping the charts in the fucking Wedding Singer. I'll retract my statement that it "started" the resurgence of DSB, you've got me there, but it certainly brought it to a greater cultural awareness than the Wedding Singer and, arguably, Monster. You're making it out to be that Perry's appearance at the games and the White Sox making DSB their theme song offered nothing to the awareness of the song.
That simply isn't the case. At all.
Edit: BS, just for kicks, compare the quality of performances. Who did better: Perry at the White Sox or Pineda at the Superbowl?
Without a band backing him up....Perry
You, ma'am, should consider a career in stand up comedy.
But I do have a suspicion that Blueskies will say the same thing.
Thank you.....for you!!!![]()
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gft5-6klkMA
Well, golly gee, that sure was disrespectful.
Gideon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:The White Sox media cloud was what started the resurgence of "Don't Stop Believin'" -- please don't make it seem as though it was something recent or that it was anywhere near its atmosphere-piercing levels of superstardom. He was promoting that song just as much (if not more) than Journey using the SuperBowl to promote Revelation.
There's no way to defend Perry's lackluster performance. He was hoarse? Arnel had a cold. It was impromptu? He could have said no. He wasn't promoting anything? He was, de facto.
Excuses don't mitigate how poorly Arnel and Perry performed relative to their better moments.
The movie's Monster and the Wedding Singer restarted the DSB resurgence, but you can believe what you want, your memories of what was going on in 2003 may be different than mine.
DSB was hardly topping the charts in the fucking Wedding Singer. I'll retract my statement that it "started" the resurgence of DSB, you've got me there, but it certainly brought it to a greater cultural awareness than the Wedding Singer and, arguably, Monster. You're making it out to be that Perry's appearance at the games and the White Sox making DSB their theme song offered nothing to the awareness of the song.
That simply isn't the case. At all.
Edit: BS, just for kicks, compare the quality of performances. Who did better: Perry at the White Sox or Pineda at the Superbowl?
Without a band backing him up....Perry
You, ma'am, should consider a career in stand up comedy.
But I do have a suspicion that Blueskies will say the same thing.
Thank you.....for you!!!![]()
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gft5-6klkMA
Well, golly gee, that sure was disrespectful.
I'm a good sport, though. I have no problem being villified or loathed around here. But we're going to have to work on those double standards; don't whine about me being disrespectful again, okay? Because sending a video to a song called "fuck you" seems to be a lot more rude than calling someone's remark "thoughtless."![]()
Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:Gunbot wrote:Gideon wrote:The White Sox media cloud was what started the resurgence of "Don't Stop Believin'" -- please don't make it seem as though it was something recent or that it was anywhere near its atmosphere-piercing levels of superstardom. He was promoting that song just as much (if not more) than Journey using the SuperBowl to promote Revelation.
There's no way to defend Perry's lackluster performance. He was hoarse? Arnel had a cold. It was impromptu? He could have said no. He wasn't promoting anything? He was, de facto.
Excuses don't mitigate how poorly Arnel and Perry performed relative to their better moments.
The movie's Monster and the Wedding Singer restarted the DSB resurgence, but you can believe what you want, your memories of what was going on in 2003 may be different than mine.
DSB was hardly topping the charts in the fucking Wedding Singer. I'll retract my statement that it "started" the resurgence of DSB, you've got me there, but it certainly brought it to a greater cultural awareness than the Wedding Singer and, arguably, Monster. You're making it out to be that Perry's appearance at the games and the White Sox making DSB their theme song offered nothing to the awareness of the song.
That simply isn't the case. At all.
Edit: BS, just for kicks, compare the quality of performances. Who did better: Perry at the White Sox or Pineda at the Superbowl?
Without a band backing him up....Perry
You, ma'am, should consider a career in stand up comedy.
But I do have a suspicion that Blueskies will say the same thing.
Thank you.....for you!!!![]()
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gft5-6klkMA
Well, golly gee, that sure was disrespectful.
I'm a good sport, though. I have no problem being villified or loathed around here. But we're going to have to work on those double standards; don't whine about me being disrespectful again, okay? Because sending a video to a song called "fuck you" seems to be a lot more rude than calling someone's remark "thoughtless."![]()
Review that again and get back with me, I may be able to meet you half way!!!
Gideon wrote:
That doesn't fly. I'm not even asking for an apology; you just don't need to complain again.
Michigan Girl wrote:Gideon wrote:
That doesn't fly. I'm not even asking for an apology; you just don't need to complain again.
You won't get one and Sounds reasonable.....
Blueskies wrote:Ummm..I hate to interrupt but I think you missed my response to you above where I believe I settled the debate Gideon.So bring on a new piece of evidence of Perry singing DSB as comparison..one that is more correctly similar on a stage as a professional with a band before an audience..thanks.
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