How would YOU rate Journey's performance last night?

[ttango1]

I think Arnel did fine. His accent was a little more pronounced, his voice is a little rougher than when he started, but all in all, it was good. There were no flat notes or missed lyrics.

Journey has come a long way from just a few years back, where almost all the DSB highs were either ducked, delegated, or worse, pro-tooled.

That's where I'm at and I'm Filipino.

This is how I felt, although I think AP slid some notes to get where he needed to be. I've heard better but I think that there are millions of Super Bowl viewers who ARE NOT as critical about Journey as the members of the message board is.

I'm a staunch supporter of both Journey and Arnel and I know they can do better but I also say that they didn't do as bad as some naysayers say they did. Truthfully, Journey played at a Super Bowl event... that right there is cool.

And lastly I wanted to say...


I took this picture ->

[SherriBerry]

Now that I am over my initial reaction to the SB performance, I went back and watched it again on YouTube. While it definitely was not the performance it could or should have been, I don't think it's the end of the world. I believe we all agree that not rescheduling the charity performances and not saving his vocals for the Super Bowl was either very shortsighted or irresponsible given what was at stake.

That said, I believe most of us are extremely disappointed because we know how much better it could have been, but considering that most of the people watching the SB pregame have probably never heard Arnel sing DSB live, they did not have that comparison and to them it probably sounded alright. If they compare a live performance to the SP studio original on their iPod, well I don't know who could live up to that comparison except Journey with SP in 1981. At least it was live and the band sounded great. Since most of the 50-100 million viewers were not watching and analyzing Arnel's performance like a CSI, chances are that many missed the eye-rolling.

I have to give Arnel credit - most people fear public speaking more than death, so to go on stage knowing that there are up to 100,000,000 people watching you and sing a song made famous by Steve Perry takes a lot of courage, even for a seasoned performer.

[finalfight]

I think Arnel did fine. His accent was a little more pronounced, his voice is a little rougher than when he started, but all in all, it was good. There were no flat notes or missed lyrics.

Journey has come a long way from just a few years back, where almost all the DSB highs were either ducked, delegated, or worse, pro-tooled.

That's where I'm at and I'm Filipino.

This is how I felt, although I think AP slid some notes to get where he needed to be. I've heard better but I think that there are millions of Super Bowl viewers who ARE NOT as critical about Journey as the members of the message board is.

I'm a staunch supporter of both Journey and Arnel and I know they can do better but I also say that they didn't do as bad as some naysayers say they did. Truthfully, Journey played at a Super Bowl event... that right there is cool.

And lastly I wanted to say...


I took this picture ->

And what a lovely photo it is, shame Ross ruins it though!

[SherriBerry]

Does anyone else think that Journey's current management is absolutely worthless? They seem to have completely abrogated any responsibility for guiding this band and ensuring its longevity. If it was in fact Azoff's idea for Journey to tour with a hard drive instead of taking care of SA's voice, that demonstrates they only care about touring revenue from the band and should have been fired a long time ago! Now the band's new lead singer was across the country singing in shows that should have been rescheduled right before the biggest live event in history - management dropped the ball again. There has to be a better manager for Journey that loves the music and will fight to protect the interests of the band. They need Herbie.

[Luvsaugeri]

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If you want to send me on Holiday in order to tighten the proverbial belt, I understand, I mean, fuck you!

How about just for an hour now, so I can get my Steve Augeri interview done?

No kidding?? I say give him the boot then and finish it up already!!

When can we be expecting this interview?

[annpea]

Is'nt it ironic, that Perry did a poor job singing at the world series and Journey did a poor job playing at the superbowl; neither one seem to be properly prepared. Maybe sporting events are not their cup of tea.

[finalfight]

Is'nt it ironic, that Perry did a poor job singing at the world series and Journey did a poor job playing at the superbowl; neither one seem to be properly prepared. Maybe sporting events are not their cup of tea.

You are joking about Perry right? An off the cuff 'performance' following a period of time spent cheering and yelling loudly along with a large crowd at a sporting event hardly compares with what should have been a well rehearsed and easily managed gig for Arnel.

[perryfaithful]

Is'nt it ironic, that Perry did a poor job singing at the world series and Journey did a poor job playing at the superbowl; neither one seem to be properly prepared. Maybe sporting events are not their cup of tea.

You are joking about Perry right? An off the cuff 'performance' following a period of time spent cheering and yelling loudly along with a large crowd at a sporting event hardly compares with what should have been a well rehearsed and easily managed gig for Arnel.

clearly

[annpea]

Is'nt it ironic, that Perry did a poor job singing at the world series and Journey did a poor job playing at the superbowl; neither one seem to be properly prepared. Maybe sporting events are not their cup of tea.

You are joking about Perry right? An off the cuff 'performance' following a period of time spent cheering and yelling loudly along with a large crowd at a sporting event hardly compares with what should have been a well rehearsed and easily managed gig for Arnel.

It's ironic that both are extremely good singers who had a not so good moment at a huge sporting event; it won't kill them it was just a bump in the road. Is that better FF ?:lol:

[annpea]

Does anyone else think that Journey's current management is absolutely worthless? They seem to have completely abrogated any responsibility for guiding this band and ensuring its longevity. If it was in fact Azoff's idea for Journey to tour with a hard drive instead of taking care of SA's voice, that demonstrates they only care about touring revenue from the band and should have been fired a long time ago! Now the band's new lead singer was across the country singing in shows that should have been rescheduled right before the biggest live event in history - management dropped the ball again. There has to be a better manager for Journey that loves the music and will fight to protect the interests of the band. They need Herbie.

It, seem like it.

[Behshad]

Even the damn poll calculator knows better not to give Neal any %-credit for his one vote

[stevew2]

Does anyone else think that Journey's current management is absolutely worthless? They seem to have completely abrogated any responsibility for guiding this band and ensuring its longevity. If it was in fact Azoff's idea for Journey to tour with a hard drive instead of taking care of SA's voice, that demonstrates they only care about touring revenue from the band and should have been fired a long time ago! Now the band's new lead singer was across the country singing in shows that should have been rescheduled right before the biggest live event in history - management dropped the ball again. There has to be a better manager for Journey that loves the music and will fight to protect the interests of the band. They need Herbie.

The whole lot is retarded ,they blew every chance they had through the years and they ve had many

[stevew2]

Even the damn poll calculator knows better not to give Neal any %-credit for his one vote

lol

[Onestepper]

Does anyone else think that Journey's current management is absolutely worthless? They seem to have completely abrogated any responsibility for guiding this band and ensuring its longevity. If it was in fact Azoff's idea for Journey to tour with a hard drive instead of taking care of SA's voice, that demonstrates they only care about touring revenue from the band and should have been fired a long time ago! Now the band's new lead singer was across the country singing in shows that should have been rescheduled right before the biggest live event in history - management dropped the ball again. There has to be a better manager for Journey that loves the music and will fight to protect the interests of the band. They need Herbie.

It, seem like it.

The current management team is doing what they have to do to maximize current earning opportunities. In other words, they seem to focus on a day to day basis, going for the quick dollar or publicity, versus really putting a long term strategy together, maybe because they feel they are on borrowed time. The WalMart deal alone guaranteed them the ability to make some huge money, while assuring at least one more album/tour out of the band. Thus resulting in one more pay day. After that, it's like a short term lease that ends up going month to month. You don't forecast that money upfront because you don't know if it will continue to be there year after year. I honestly believe they could care less that they sounded and looked awful Sunday evening. They know they got enough exposure and hype to get them to another recording session which leads to the pay day. Artistic integrity be damned.

[E5C4P3ING]

I agree with those who feel the singer's performance was less than good.

Can't imagine them going much further with him.

[Behshad]

Does anyone else think that Journey's current management is absolutely worthless? They seem to have completely abrogated any responsibility for guiding this band and ensuring its longevity. If it was in fact Azoff's idea for Journey to tour with a hard drive instead of taking care of SA's voice, that demonstrates they only care about touring revenue from the band and should have been fired a long time ago! Now the band's new lead singer was across the country singing in shows that should have been rescheduled right before the biggest live event in history - management dropped the ball again. There has to be a better manager for Journey that loves the music and will fight to protect the interests of the band. They need Herbie.

It, seem like it.

The current management team is doing what they have to do to maximize current earning opportunities. In other words, they seem to focus on a day to day basis, going for the quick dollar or publicity, versus really putting a long term strategy together, maybe because they feel they are on borrowed time. The WalMart deal alone guaranteed them the ability to make some huge money, while assuring at least one more album/tour out of the band. Thus resulting in one more pay day. After that, it's like a short term lease that ends up going month to month. You don't forecast that money upfront because you don't know if it will continue to be there year after year. I honestly believe they could care less that they sounded and looked awful Sunday evening. They know they got enough exposure and hype to get them to another recording session which leads to the pay day. Artistic integrity be damned.

Great post. Totally agree.

[Jana]

I agree with those who feel the singer's performance was less than good.

Can't imagine them going much further with him.

I predict another successul tour this year, just like last year's.

[NealIsGod]

I agree with those who feel the singer's performance was less than good.

Can't imagine them going much further with him.

I predict another successul tour this year, just like last year's.

It depends who they tour with. They better pick well because I think the economy will finally affect concerts this year. I don't think $135 per ticket for 3 bands will sell in 2009.

[Behshad]

I agree with those who feel the singer's performance was less than good.

Can't imagine them going much further with him.

I predict another successul tour this year, just like last year's.

I dont think the poor performance from Sunday could really affect the tour in a negative way. 95% of those who go to the shows dont give a crap about details that we focus on .
On the other hand, as Niggy said, they need to have the right band to tour with. That will affect the success of the tour a lot more than a 5 minute superbowl fuckup.

[Jana]

I agree with those who feel the singer's performance was less than good.

Can't imagine them going much further with him.

I predict another successul tour this year, just like last year's.

It depends who they tour with. They better pick well because I think the economy will finally affect concerts this year. I don't think $135 per ticket for 3 bands will sell in 2009.

Well, true, I didn't factor in the economy. I see the economy worse by June, and the right pick to tour with will make a big difference for people shelling out money for concerts this year.

[NealIsGod]

I agree with those who feel the singer's performance was less than good.

Can't imagine them going much further with him.

I predict another successul tour this year, just like last year's.

It depends who they tour with. They better pick well because I think the economy will finally affect concerts this year. I don't think $135 per ticket for 3 bands will sell in 2009.

Well, true, I didn't factor in the economy. I see the economy worse by June, and the right pick to tour with will make a big difference for people shelling out money for concerts this year.

If they could open for VH this year or next they should jump at the chance.

[Rocker Chic]

If they could open for VH this year or next they should jump at the chance.

You sound awfully optimistic that VH would tour this quickly again, NIG! I, on the other hand, won't be holding my breath for that one.

Debbie

[NealIsGod]

If they could open for VH this year or next they should jump at the chance.

You sound awfully optimistic that VH would tour this quickly again, NIG! I, on the other hand, won't be holding my breath for that one.

Debbie

I don't see it happening this year, but I am keeping my fingers crossed for 2010. And I am also hoping a live DVD of the last tour sees the light of day this year.

[Uno_up]

If they could open for VH this year or next they should jump at the chance.

If VH can sell out shows with Kymani Marley opening for them, I doubt they need Journey at this point in their careers .

[stevew2]

Does anyone else think that Journey's current management is absolutely worthless? They seem to have completely abrogated any responsibility for guiding this band and ensuring its longevity. If it was in fact Azoff's idea for Journey to tour with a hard drive instead of taking care of SA's voice, that demonstrates they only care about touring revenue from the band and should have been fired a long time ago! Now the band's new lead singer was across the country singing in shows that should have been rescheduled right before the biggest live event in history - management dropped the ball again. There has to be a better manager for Journey that loves the music and will fight to protect the interests of the band. They need Herbie.

It, seem like it.

The current management team is doing what they have to do to maximize current earning opportunities. In other words, they seem to focus on a day to day basis, going for the quick dollar or publicity, versus really putting a long term strategy together, maybe because they feel they are on borrowed time. The WalMart deal alone guaranteed them the ability to make some huge money, while assuring at least one more album/tour out of the band. Thus resulting in one more pay day. After that, it's like a short term lease that ends up going month to month. You don't forecast that money upfront because you don't know if it will continue to be there year after year. I honestly believe they could care less that they sounded and looked awful Sunday evening. They know they got enough exposure and hype to get them to another recording session which leads to the pay day. Artistic integrity be damned.

You need to shave that bush

[Eric]

1) Wasn't as bad as the people hating on it say

2) Wasn't great either

3) No excuse not to cancel that CA gig

4) Band sounded very tight

5) Bruce is overrated and boring. Had 25 people at my party and a collective roar of a laughter occurred when he swung his guitar around.

6) He should be speaking English more, because it sounded like he reverted some on some of the accent places

[Esc]

10 pages of whining and sarcasm.
for what its worth, it was entertaining.

[Behshad]

10 pages of whining and sarcasm.
for what its worth, it was entertaining.

So now its considered whining if people critisize the band they spend their hard earned money on!?

Maybe if the fans actually give their honest critisism to their band, the band works harder and prepares better to avoid crap like Sunday's performance.

[Jana]

1) Wasn't as bad as the people hating on it say

2) Wasn't great either

3) No excuse not to cancel that CA gig

4) Band sounded very tight

5) Bruce is overrated and boring. Had 25 people at my party and a collective roar of a laughter occurred when he swung his guitar around.

6) He should be speaking English more, because it sounded like he reverted some on some of the accent places

Except number five, I agree. My ten here really liked Bruce.

[SherriBerry]

Does anyone else think that Journey's current management is absolutely worthless? They seem to have completely abrogated any responsibility for guiding this band and ensuring its longevity. If it was in fact Azoff's idea for Journey to tour with a hard drive instead of taking care of SA's voice, that demonstrates they only care about touring revenue from the band and should have been fired a long time ago! Now the band's new lead singer was across the country singing in shows that should have been rescheduled right before the biggest live event in history - management dropped the ball again. There has to be a better manager for Journey that loves the music and will fight to protect the interests of the band. They need Herbie.

It, seem like it.

The current management team is doing what they have to do to maximize current earning opportunities. In other words, they seem to focus on a day to day basis, going for the quick dollar or publicity, versus really putting a long term strategy together, maybe because they feel they are on borrowed time. The WalMart deal alone guaranteed them the ability to make some huge money, while assuring at least one more album/tour out of the band. Thus resulting in one more pay day. After that, it's like a short term lease that ends up going month to month. You don't forecast that money upfront because you don't know if it will continue to be there year after year. I honestly believe they could care less that they sounded and looked awful Sunday evening. They know they got enough exposure and hype to get them to another recording session which leads to the pay day. Artistic integrity be damned.

Great post. Totally agree.

This short term strategy is in the best interests of management, but not the band. The Wal Mart deal was good from a financial standpoint, which is why so many other artists are doing it. However, maximizing current earning opportunities at the expense of Journey's credibility and long term viability demonstrates where management's priorities lie. Journey has an evergreen catalogue and a solid fanbase - decisions such as Tapegate, the deplorable manner in which JSS's dismissal was handled and the Super Bowl indicate that this management is not doing its job for the band.