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Postby PowerChords » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:08 am

brywool wrote:
PowerChords wrote:Arnel needs to be a prick if he wants to last in this business. Perry was a prick and a pain in the ass with Journey but guess what? He delivered the goods! What happened to Arnel never happened to Perry. If he can't hear his voice or the stage setup is messed up, he will fuckin' say so and everyone will listen and adjust. Perry is the consumate perfectionist. That's why Neal et. al gave the reins to Perry to show them the money.


What happened to Arnel did happen to Perry. Listen to the Philly show from the ROR tour. Listen to the Bill Graham performance.


Sure, but Perry came back with a vengeance after the Bill Graham performance. Did you hear him at...er...uh...hm..
nevermind Bry! :-)
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Postby brywool » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:08 am

PowerChords wrote:
brywool wrote:
PowerChords wrote:Arnel needs to be a prick if he wants to last in this business. Perry was a prick and a pain in the ass with Journey but guess what? He delivered the goods! What happened to Arnel never happened to Perry. If he can't hear his voice or the stage setup is messed up, he will fuckin' say so and everyone will listen and adjust. Perry is the consumate perfectionist. That's why Neal et. al gave the reins to Perry to show them the money.


What happened to Arnel did happen to Perry. Listen to the Philly show from the ROR tour. Listen to the Bill Graham performance.


Sure, but Perry came back with a vengeance after the Bill Graham performance. Did you hear him at...er...uh...hm..
nevermind Bry! :-)


HAHAHAHAHA.
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:06 am

I cannot believe I am going to say this, but if Pineda really had a cold, and who the fuck knows, I would have ran tape. Yep, I would have had Elson work his magic one more time. For an event this big, the goal was to be perfect as you can. I wouldn't say the same thing for Springsteen though, because he always breathes heavy, and cuts note and fucks off, but Journey is about that maestro voice, that Perry laid down.

Now, for the record, you will never hear me say that again.
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Re: ARNEL COMMENTS ON SUPERBOWL

Postby tammy » Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:12 am

PianoMan1986 wrote:Thanks to "Gunbot" on this one:

Knellsky: I WAS FEELING QUITE BAD TODAY
AFTER SEEING MY OWN PERFORMANCE WITH JOURNEY
IT WAS QUITE BAD
IM SO EMBARRASED WITH JOURNEY

Arnel expressed his disappointment over his performance. That's the only review I need to see really. How many artists would come out and say that?

I don't know why we are even debating it.


Why can't people accept that the man was sick and had to commit to an obligation?


I thought he might've been sick because he sounded raspier, but he still did a good job. He doesn't deserve all that harsh criticism either way. Today I heard Mark & Brian (Classic rock morning radio show) talking about bands that found their singers thru youtube (they were talking with the new singer of YES who was hired via youtube) then they briefly mentioned about Journey's Super Bowl performance...Brian, even 'tho conflicted about "the new guy" and it being hard (cuz he is a SP/Journey fan) said AP was very good & sounded so much like Steve Perry.
Now where is that clip of AP singing the Heart song with that little girl? He sounded amazing in it.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:24 am

Rockindeano wrote:I cannot believe I am going to say this, but if Pineda really had a cold, and who the fuck knows, I would have ran tape.


And run the risk of accidentally grabbing the 2005 ones? :lol: That would have been some comedy.

(and you will never hear me say that again)
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Postby StoneCold » Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:52 am

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Rockindeano wrote:I cannot believe I am going to say this, but if Pineda really had a cold, and who the fuck knows, I would have ran tape.


And run the risk of accidentally grabbing the 2005 ones? :lol:


Augeri sound, Pineda face? THAT would've been the end.
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Re: ARNEL COMMENTS ON SUPERBOWL

Postby journel » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:01 am

tammy wrote:
PianoMan1986 wrote:Thanks to "Gunbot" on this one:

Knellsky: I WAS FEELING QUITE BAD TODAY
AFTER SEEING MY OWN PERFORMANCE WITH JOURNEY
IT WAS QUITE BAD
IM SO EMBARRASED WITH JOURNEY

Arnel expressed his disappointment over his performance. That's the only review I need to see really. How many artists would come out and say that?

I don't know why we are even debating it.


Why can't people accept that the man was sick and had to commit to an obligation?


I thought he might've been sick because he sounded raspier, but he still did a good job. He doesn't deserve all that harsh criticism either way. Today I heard Mark & Brian (Classic rock morning radio show) talking about bands that found their singers thru youtube (they were talking with the new singer of YES who was hired via youtube) then they briefly mentioned about Journey's Super Bowl performance...Brian, even 'tho conflicted about "the new guy" and it being hard (cuz he is a SP/Journey fan) said AP was very good & sounded so much like Steve Perry.
Now where is that clip of AP singing the Heart song with that little girl? He sounded amazing in it.


all i can say is arnel pineda should quit singing tagalog songs.....period!
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Re: ARNEL COMMENTS ON SUPERBOWL

Postby Don » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:13 am

journel wrote:
tammy wrote:
PianoMan1986 wrote:Thanks to "Gunbot" on this one:

Knellsky: I WAS FEELING QUITE BAD TODAY
AFTER SEEING MY OWN PERFORMANCE WITH JOURNEY
IT WAS QUITE BAD
IM SO EMBARRASED WITH JOURNEY

Arnel expressed his disappointment over his performance. That's the only review I need to see really. How many artists would come out and say that?

I don't know why we are even debating it.


Why can't people accept that the man was sick and had to commit to an obligation?


I thought he might've been sick because he sounded raspier, but he still did a good job. He doesn't deserve all that harsh criticism either way. Today I heard Mark & Brian (Classic rock morning radio show) talking about bands that found their singers thru youtube (they were talking with the new singer of YES who was hired via youtube) then they briefly mentioned about Journey's Super Bowl performance...Brian, even 'tho conflicted about "the new guy" and it being hard (cuz he is a SP/Journey fan) said AP was very good & sounded so much like Steve Perry.
Now where is that clip of AP singing the Heart song with that little girl? He sounded amazing in it.


all i can say is arnel pineda should quit singing tagalog songs.....period!


Or just sing the Rey Valera ones only.
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Postby stargzr210 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:14 pm

aliaslen wrote:Now where is Poohwie? i think he wanted to manage Arnel's career :). I remember him saying in his first post that Arnel's manager sucks coz he
wanted Arnel to perform only with Journey and (the zoo band) hehe


hey! there's another "wee" i kmow that sounded like poohwie on AP's site....i swear...they sounded identical....lol
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Re: ARNEL COMMENTS ON SUPERBOWL

Postby stargzr210 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:15 pm

Gunbot wrote:
journel wrote:
tammy wrote:
PianoMan1986 wrote:Thanks to "Gunbot" on this one:

Knellsky: I WAS FEELING QUITE BAD TODAY
AFTER SEEING MY OWN PERFORMANCE WITH JOURNEY
IT WAS QUITE BAD
IM SO EMBARRASED WITH JOURNEY

Arnel expressed his disappointment over his performance. That's the only review I need to see really. How many artists would come out and say that?

I don't know why we are even debating it.


Why can't people accept that the man was sick and had to commit to an obligation?


I thought he might've been sick because he sounded raspier, but he still did a good job. He doesn't deserve all that harsh criticism either way. Today I heard Mark & Brian (Classic rock morning radio show) talking about bands that found their singers thru youtube (they were talking with the new singer of YES who was hired via youtube) then they briefly mentioned about Journey's Super Bowl performance...Brian, even 'tho conflicted about "the new guy" and it being hard (cuz he is a SP/Journey fan) said AP was very good & sounded so much like Steve Perry.
Now where is that clip of AP singing the Heart song with that little girl? He sounded amazing in it.


all i can say is arnel pineda should quit singing tagalog songs.....period!


Or just sing the Rey Valera ones only.



i'll go for Air supply...
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Re: ARNEL COMMENTS ON SUPERBOWL

Postby Don » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:19 pm

stargzr210 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
journel wrote:
tammy wrote:
PianoMan1986 wrote:Thanks to "Gunbot" on this one:

Knellsky: I WAS FEELING QUITE BAD TODAY
AFTER SEEING MY OWN PERFORMANCE WITH JOURNEY
IT WAS QUITE BAD
IM SO EMBARRASED WITH JOURNEY

Arnel expressed his disappointment over his performance. That's the only review I need to see really. How many artists would come out and say that?

I don't know why we are even debating it.


Why can't people accept that the man was sick and had to commit to an obligation?


I thought he might've been sick because he sounded raspier, but he still did a good job. He doesn't deserve all that harsh criticism either way. Today I heard Mark & Brian (Classic rock morning radio show) talking about bands that found their singers thru youtube (they were talking with the new singer of YES who was hired via youtube) then they briefly mentioned about Journey's Super Bowl performance...Brian, even 'tho conflicted about "the new guy" and it being hard (cuz he is a SP/Journey fan) said AP was very good & sounded so much like Steve Perry.
Now where is that clip of AP singing the Heart song with that little girl? He sounded amazing in it.


all i can say is arnel pineda should quit singing tagalog songs.....period!


Or just sing the Rey Valera ones only.



i'll go for Air supply...


Rey crushes Air Supply and you know it.
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Postby stargzr210 » Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:12 am

Gunbot wrote:
stargzr210 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
journel wrote:
tammy wrote:
PianoMan1986 wrote:Thanks to "Gunbot" on this one:

Knellsky: I WAS FEELING QUITE BAD TODAY
AFTER SEEING MY OWN PERFORMANCE WITH JOURNEY
IT WAS QUITE BAD
IM SO EMBARRASED WITH JOURNEY

Arnel expressed his disappointment over his performance. That's the only review I need to see really. How many artists would come out and say that?

I don't know why we are even debating it.


Why can't people accept that the man was sick and had to commit to an obligation?


I thought he might've been sick because he sounded raspier, but he still did a good job. He doesn't deserve all that harsh criticism either way. Today I heard Mark & Brian (Classic rock morning radio show) talking about bands that found their singers thru youtube (they were talking with the new singer of YES who was hired via youtube) then they briefly mentioned about Journey's Super Bowl performance...Brian, even 'tho conflicted about "the new guy" and it being hard (cuz he is a SP/Journey fan) said AP was very good & sounded so much like Steve Perry.
Now where is that clip of AP singing the Heart song with that little girl? He sounded amazing in it.


all i can say is arnel pineda should quit singing tagalog songs.....period!


Or just sing the Rey Valera ones only.



i'll go for Air supply...


Rey crushes Air Supply and you know it.



i know... :lol:
but what happened to rey's face? he looks like he's been botoxed !
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Postby brywool » Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:24 am

Rockindeano wrote:I cannot believe I am going to say this, but if Pineda really had a cold, and who the fuck knows, I would have ran tape. Yep, I would have had Elson work his magic one more time. For an event this big, the goal was to be perfect as you can. I wouldn't say the same thing for Springsteen though, because he always breathes heavy, and cuts note and fucks off, but Journey is about that maestro voice, that Perry laid down.

Now, for the record, you will never hear me say that again.


You know, the guy was pitchy in a few spots, but (and I can't believe I'M saying this) the accent was incredibly apparent and distracting and that's what I wasn't wild about. I've got no problem with the guy being from the Philippines, but if you're in an American band, singing an American song, you really need to get the pronunciation correct. I'd say the same thing to an American singing a French aria. The pronunciation's gotta be there. To me, this is the most I've heard Arnel's accent since the Zoo clips. When I saw him, he didn't sound like that, when he was on CBS This Morning he didn't sound like that. I think that he was away for a while and just slipped back into his own accent. Totally understandable. A rehearsal would've helped.
Having said that, I still think Arnel kicks ass over most singers. It was ONE performance, and (to me) it was pretty low on the totem pole. I mean, they were on tv, but they were on a hokey, tiny stage that looked like it was set up for the local cover band (he said, realizing that that's his gig too!). I don't know, in the scheme of things, I don't think it's a such a huge deal. I've seen Arnel kick ass more than I've seen him have problems. He's still THE SH*T as far as I'm concerned.
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Postby mdaemon » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:13 pm

brywool wrote:
PowerChords wrote:Arnel needs to be a prick if he wants to last in this business. Perry was a prick and a pain in the ass with Journey but guess what? He delivered the goods! What happened to Arnel never happened to Perry. If he can't hear his voice or the stage setup is messed up, he will fuckin' say so and everyone will listen and adjust. Perry is the consumate perfectionist. That's why Neal et. al gave the reins to Perry to show them the money.


What happened to Arnel did happen to Perry. Listen to the Philly show from the ROR tour. Listen to the Bill Graham performance. Every singer will have a bad night once in a while.
I'm not sure if what Deano mentioned about not rehearsing was the deal or not. The band SHOULD definitely have rehearsed and I can't believe they didn't. Still, the guy actually sang the song live as many others didn't. Too bad that it wasn't a good performance. I don't really think it would've mattered one bit to the band. Meaning that if it was a good performance, I don't think people would be just 'buzzing' about it or anything. They played a song that's been overplayed for years, did an 'okay' job of it, big deal.


It's Arnel fault. He called up Neal a few weeks before and said he doesn't want to practice because he can sing that song on his sleep. Neal could do nothing but scratch his head
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Postby SherriBerry » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:27 pm

When is Journey touring North America? Any updates? I would like to forget the Super Bowl, hear Journey live, and be quite happy to say that they were great! But if anyone is going to the concerts in Japan and is planning on posting on YouTube... :wink:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:05 am

SherriBerry wrote:When is Journey touring North America? Any updates? I would like to forget the Super Bowl, hear Journey live, and be quite happy to say that they were great! But if anyone is going to the concerts in Japan and is planning on posting on YouTube... :wink:


I'll chop my dick off and send it to you airmail if they stop in Vancouver. Ain't happenin Canuck friend.
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Postby Behshad » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:33 am

Rockindeano wrote:
SherriBerry wrote:When is Journey touring North America? Any updates? I would like to forget the Super Bowl, hear Journey live, and be quite happy to say that they were great! But if anyone is going to the concerts in Japan and is planning on posting on YouTube... :wink:


I'll chop my dick off and send it to you airmail if they stop in Vancouver. Ain't happenin Canuck friend.


You & your bets,,, :lol:
Dont you have other lost bets to fullfill !? :wink:
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Postby finalfight » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:55 am

mdaemon wrote:It's Arnel fault. He called up Neal a few weeks before and said he doesn't want to practice because he can sing that song on his sleep. Neal could do nothing but scratch his head


That really happened? :shock:
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Postby stargzr210 » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:15 am

finalfight wrote:
mdaemon wrote:It's Arnel fault. He called up Neal a few weeks before and said he doesn't want to practice because he can sing that song on his sleep. Neal could do nothing but scratch his head


That really happened? :shock:



i'll ask knellsky tonight....lol....yes, for real!
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Postby Jana » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:25 am

stargzr210 wrote:
finalfight wrote:
mdaemon wrote:It's Arnel fault. He called up Neal a few weeks before and said he doesn't want to practice because he can sing that song on his sleep. Neal could do nothing but scratch his head


That really happened? :shock:



i'll ask knellsky tonight....lol....yes, for real!


It's a joke.
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Postby tammy » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:31 am

I just noticed "Don't stop believin" is #61 on iTunes top songs...anyone know where it landed right after Super Bowl? (sorry, Bruce is at #77).
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:53 am

tammy wrote:I just noticed "Don't stop believin" is #61 on iTunes top songs...anyone know where it landed right after Super Bowl? (sorry, Bruce is at #77).


LOL, Bruce debuted at number one on the chart that matters Tammer. The album chart. His new single is one of the weakest off the new cd.
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Postby finalfight » Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:57 am

Jana wrote:
stargzr210 wrote:
finalfight wrote:
mdaemon wrote:It's Arnel fault. He called up Neal a few weeks before and said he doesn't want to practice because he can sing that song on his sleep. Neal could do nothing but scratch his head


That really happened? :shock:



i'll ask knellsky tonight....lol....yes, for real!


It's a joke.


The whole thing is a joke. Journey is the gift that keeps on giving only without the gift and taking instead of giving!
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Postby mdaemon » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:33 am

finalfight wrote:
mdaemon wrote:It's Arnel fault. He called up Neal a few weeks before and said he doesn't want to practice because he can sing that song on his sleep. Neal could do nothing but scratch his head


That really happened? :shock:


I was kidding and being sarcastic as well. I don't agree with putting the blame solely on Pineda. I think Journey's management are partly to blame. Arnel wouldn't do anything without Journey's approval...yes even the gig a night before. In my book, if you agree to something and it goes tits up, then you're partly to blame. Also, scheduling the practice with only a few days before the gig isn't Pineda's call. As a matter of fact, I don't think Pineda has any say at all as to when they will practice. Journey are doing this for more than 30 years, they should know better. Arnel on the other hand is very new to all these so I think people should cut him some slack.
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Postby Don » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:53 am

tammy wrote:I just noticed "Don't stop believin" is #61 on iTunes top songs...anyone know where it landed right after Super Bowl? (sorry, Bruce is at #77).


Which version? (actually, I don't think any of the re-recorded songs from Jouney's new album are available on itunes, another byproduct of being a Walmart exclusive).
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Postby wednesday's child » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:53 am

mdaemon wrote:
finalfight wrote:
mdaemon wrote:It's Arnel fault. He called up Neal a few weeks before and said he doesn't want to practice because he can sing that song on his sleep. Neal could do nothing but scratch his head


That really happened? :shock:


I was kidding and being sarcastic as well. I don't agree with putting the blame solely on Pineda. I think Journey's management are partly to blame. Arnel wouldn't do anything without Journey's approval...yes even the gig a night before. In my book, if you agree to something and it goes tits up, then you're partly to blame. Also, scheduling the practice with only a few days before the gig isn't Pineda's call. As a matter of fact, I don't think Pineda has any say at all as to when they will practice. Journey are doing this for more than 30 years, they should know better. Arnel on the other hand is very new to all these so I think people should cut him some slack.



Hold the fuck up. :)

Given the weather and his documented difficulties with it, and the ease with which he catches some bug,
He shouldn't have been expending his energy reserve, or getting so physically close to fans before
a real Journey gig. Given the jet lag and acclimatization issues, he should have left a lot of time open
prior to the SB, and if that meant nixing any other peformances, then he should have never even
considered it.

Even IF Journey management had signed off (begrudgingly or no) on the charity gig with Lani,
they would have asked if it would be a problem SB-wise, and that means Arnel told them it wouldn't.
Let's not confuse the principal party with minor accessories.

Minsan lang ang pagkakataon 'tulad ng Superbowl, even if it's just the Tailgate gig, and Arnel blew it,
period. Bad sound system my ass --we're talking about flubbed lyrics, oversinging, pitchiness and an
accent every bit as pronounced as when he was still auditioning.

He simply didn't prepare enough for the SB-TG gig:
Setting aside necessary conservation of energy and recovery from jetlag:
If it takes weeks of being around Americans to lose enough of the accent, then
there has to be allowance for it, in the States, prior to performing with Journey.
(Spending that time amidst Filipino-accented English defeats the purpose).

While I disagree with the assmunching hypocrites on this board who say that Journey hiring Arnel
was a mistake, you have to understand that Arnel's lack of preparation is HIS responsibility alone.
he knows his voice, and now knows what U.S. weather is like.

He's not some toddler, and he shouldn't need to be toilet trained.
He should be able to take a leak safely without Journey management having to hold his dick steady,
but what Arnel did was piss all over the SB opportunity.

When he's truly on, he's pure gold.
Making sure he's on, 100%, for Journey is his priority work obligation.


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Postby Gideon » Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:18 am

wednesday's child wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
finalfight wrote:
mdaemon wrote:It's Arnel fault. He called up Neal a few weeks before and said he doesn't want to practice because he can sing that song on his sleep. Neal could do nothing but scratch his head


That really happened? :shock:


I was kidding and being sarcastic as well. I don't agree with putting the blame solely on Pineda. I think Journey's management are partly to blame. Arnel wouldn't do anything without Journey's approval...yes even the gig a night before. In my book, if you agree to something and it goes tits up, then you're partly to blame. Also, scheduling the practice with only a few days before the gig isn't Pineda's call. As a matter of fact, I don't think Pineda has any say at all as to when they will practice. Journey are doing this for more than 30 years, they should know better. Arnel on the other hand is very new to all these so I think people should cut him some slack.



Hold the fuck up. :)

Given the weather and his documented difficulties with it, and the ease with which he catches some bug,
He shouldn't have been expending his energy reserve, or getting so physically close to fans before
a real Journey gig. Given the jet lag and acclimatization issues, he should have left a lot of time open
prior to the SB, and if that meant nixing any other peformances, then he should have never even
considered it.

Even IF Journey management had signed off (begrudgingly or no) on the charity gig with Lani,
they would have asked if it would be a problem SB-wise, and that means Arnel told them it wouldn't.
Let's not confuse the principal party with minor accessories.

Minsan lang ang pagkakataon 'tulad ng Superbowl, even if it's just the Tailgate gig, and Arnel blew it,
period. Bad sound system my ass --we're talking about flubbed lyrics, oversinging, pitchiness and an
accent every bit as pronounced as when he was still auditioning.

He simply didn't prepare enough for the SB-TG gig:
Setting aside necessary conservation of energy and recovery from jetlag:
If it takes weeks of being around Americans to lose enough of the accent, then
there has to be allowance for it, in the States, prior to performing with Journey.
(Spending that time amidst Filipino-accented English defeats the purpose).

While I disagree with the assmunching hypocrites on this board who say that Journey hiring Arnel
was a mistake, you have to understand that Arnel's lack of preparation is HIS responsibility alone.
he knows his voice, and now knows what U.S. weather is like.

He's not some toddler, and he shouldn't need to be toilet trained.
He should be able to take a leak safely without Journey management having to hold his dick steady,
but what Arnel did was piss all over the SB opportunity.

When he's truly on, he's pure gold.
Making sure he's on, 100%, for Journey is his priority work obligation.


-wech


Amen. This post should be submitted to the Journey Bible. We'll call it Gospel of ...er... Wech?
'Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. “I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Steve Perry (Feb 2012).'
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Postby tammy » Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:57 am

Gunbot wrote:
tammy wrote:I just noticed "Don't stop believin" is #61 on iTunes top songs...anyone know where it landed right after Super Bowl? (sorry, Bruce is at #77).


Which version? (actually, I don't think any of the re-recorded songs from Jouney's new album are available on itunes, another byproduct of being a Walmart exclusive).


The original - it's from the Greatest Hits. You're right Revelation is not on iTunes. Just noticed that DSB jumped up to 58 from a few hours ago, that's strange.
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Postby mdaemon » Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:40 am

wednesday's child wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
finalfight wrote:
mdaemon wrote:It's Arnel fault. He called up Neal a few weeks before and said he doesn't want to practice because he can sing that song on his sleep. Neal could do nothing but scratch his head


That really happened? :shock:


I was kidding and being sarcastic as well. I don't agree with putting the blame solely on Pineda. I think Journey's management are partly to blame. Arnel wouldn't do anything without Journey's approval...yes even the gig a night before. In my book, if you agree to something and it goes tits up, then you're partly to blame. Also, scheduling the practice with only a few days before the gig isn't Pineda's call. As a matter of fact, I don't think Pineda has any say at all as to when they will practice. Journey are doing this for more than 30 years, they should know better. Arnel on the other hand is very new to all these so I think people should cut him some slack.



Hold the fuck up. :)

Given the weather and his documented difficulties with it, and the ease with which he catches some bug,
He shouldn't have been expending his energy reserve, or getting so physically close to fans before
a real Journey gig. Given the jet lag and acclimatization issues, he should have left a lot of time open
prior to the SB, and if that meant nixing any other peformances, then he should have never even
considered it.

Even IF Journey management had signed off (begrudgingly or no) on the charity gig with Lani,
they would have asked if it would be a problem SB-wise, and that means Arnel told them it wouldn't.
Let's not confuse the principal party with minor accessories.

Minsan lang ang pagkakataon 'tulad ng Superbowl, even if it's just the Tailgate gig, and Arnel blew it,
period. Bad sound system my ass --we're talking about flubbed lyrics, oversinging, pitchiness and an
accent every bit as pronounced as when he was still auditioning.

He simply didn't prepare enough for the SB-TG gig:
Setting aside necessary conservation of energy and recovery from jetlag:
If it takes weeks of being around Americans to lose enough of the accent, then
there has to be allowance for it, in the States, prior to performing with Journey.
(Spending that time amidst Filipino-accented English defeats the purpose).

While I disagree with the assmunching hypocrites on this board who say that Journey hiring Arnel
was a mistake, you have to understand that Arnel's lack of preparation is HIS responsibility alone.
he knows his voice, and now knows what U.S. weather is like.

He's not some toddler, and he shouldn't need to be toilet trained.
He should be able to take a leak safely without Journey management having to hold his dick steady,
but what Arnel did was piss all over the SB opportunity.

When he's truly on, he's pure gold.
Making sure he's on, 100%, for Journey is his priority work obligation.


-wech



"Flubbed lyrics, over-singing, and accent" would have been spotted during practice. Had they allotted enough time for practice, these should have been corrected as what happened during the summer tour. His accent problem was spotted earlier on by the MR posters when Arnel's ASAP duets were posted on youtube. Surely this should have been a red flag to Journey's management to get his ass to America as early as possible to correct that problem. Instead what we got from Journey was a smug Jon Cain interview hinting that they can play DSB on their sleep.

I am not saying that Arnel shouldn't be blamed for his sub-par performance. I just don't think that he is the only one to blame as Journey agreed for him to perform a night before at a charity gig. They could have asked Arnel to cancel or move the show to another date and Arnel would not be able to do anything about it. While he should be able hold his dick on his own. I don't think he can jerk off without Neal giving him a hand job.
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Postby SherriBerry » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:45 am

Rockindeano wrote:
SherriBerry wrote:When is Journey touring North America? Any updates? I would like to forget the Super Bowl, hear Journey live, and be quite happy to say that they were great! But if anyone is going to the concerts in Japan and is planning on posting on YouTube... :wink:


I'll chop my dick off and send it to you airmail if they stop in Vancouver. Ain't happenin Canuck friend.


:lol: That's okay - with my luck Customs would open that package and charge me GST :lol: Wherever Journey plays, I'll have to fly, so I'll just pick the best location - preferably somewhere warm and sunny!
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