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Postby Since 78 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:55 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:I think it's pretty unfair to compare pot to alchohol death-toll wise. Here's my reasoning... people say "you never hear about accidents involving pot smokers". Let me ask this question... where are pot smokers at normally, when they smoke? Usually hiding in their house because it's illegal! If it were legal in bars and restaurants, I can guarantee that the death toll would jump through the roof (so would sales of Snickers and Cheese Puffs!) :wink:


Not that I know anything about this :lol: but the reason people don't drive when they're high is because you can't, at least not if its good stuff. Ive never had to talk someone out of driving high, but Ive had plenty of experience with people drunk off their ass who think they're just fine to hit the road.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:00 pm

Since 78 wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:I think it's pretty unfair to compare pot to alchohol death-toll wise. Here's my reasoning... people say "you never hear about accidents involving pot smokers". Let me ask this question... where are pot smokers at normally, when they smoke? Usually hiding in their house because it's illegal! If it were legal in bars and restaurants, I can guarantee that the death toll would jump through the roof (so would sales of Snickers and Cheese Puffs!) :wink:


Not that I know anything about this :lol: but the reason people don't drive when they're high is because you can't, at least not if its good stuff. Ive never had to talk someone out of driving high, but Ive had plenty of experience with people drunk off their ass who think they're just fine to hit the road.


Some of my buds drive around blazed all the time. And yes, they smoke "good stuff." Once the weather gets nice, they're fond of "blunt rides" :lol:
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Postby Since 78 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:04 pm

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G.I.Jim wrote:I think it's pretty unfair to compare pot to alchohol death-toll wise. Here's my reasoning... people say "you never hear about accidents involving pot smokers". Let me ask this question... where are pot smokers at normally, when they smoke? Usually hiding in their house because it's illegal! If it were legal in bars and restaurants, I can guarantee that the death toll would jump through the roof (so would sales of Snickers and Cheese Puffs!) :wink:


Not that I know anything about this :lol: but the reason people don't drive when they're high is because you can't, at least not if its good stuff. Ive never had to talk someone out of driving high, but Ive had plenty of experience with people drunk off their ass who think they're just fine to hit the road.


Some of my buds drive around blazed all the time. And yes, they smoke "good stuff." Once the weather gets nice, they're fond of "blunt rides" :lol:


Well, actually its not that I can't drive, its just that I get lost :oops: so I don't. :lol:
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Postby FishinMagician » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:48 pm

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G.I.Jim wrote:I think it's pretty unfair to compare pot to alchohol death-toll wise. Here's my reasoning... people say "you never hear about accidents involving pot smokers". Let me ask this question... where are pot smokers at normally, when they smoke? Usually hiding in their house because it's illegal! If it were legal in bars and restaurants, I can guarantee that the death toll would jump through the roof (so would sales of Snickers and Cheese Puffs!) :wink:


Not that I know anything about this :lol: but the reason people don't drive when they're high is because you can't, at least not if its good stuff. Ive never had to talk someone out of driving high, but Ive had plenty of experience with people drunk off their ass who think they're just fine to hit the road.


Some of my buds drive around blazed all the time. And yes, they smoke "good stuff." Once the weather gets nice, they're fond of "blunt rides" :lol:


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Postby Don » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:03 pm

Carl Sagan excerpts:

…Initially I was unwilling to partake, but the apparent euphoria that cannabis produced and the fact that there was no physiological addiction to the plant eventually persuaded me to try… I have smoked occasionally and enjoyed it thoroughly. It amplifies torpid sensibilities and produces what to me are even more interesting effects…

The cannabis experience has greatly improved my appreciation for art, a subject which I had never much appreciated before…

A very similar improvement in my appreciation of music has occurred with cannabis. For the first time I have been able to hear the separate parts of a three-part harmony and the richness of the counterpoint…

The enjoyment of food is amplified; tastes and aromas emerge that for some reason we ordinarily seem to be too busy to notice… Cannabis also enhances the enjoyment of sex…

I do not consider myself a religious person in the usual sense, but there is a religious aspect to some highs. The heightened sensitivity in all areas gives me a feeling of communion with my surroundings, both animate and inanimate…

When I'm high I can penetrate into the past, recall childhood memories, friends, relatives, playthings, streets, smells, sounds, and tastes from a vanished era. I can reconstruct the actual occurrences in childhood events only half understood at the time…

I find that most of the insights I achieve when high are into social issues, an area of creative scholarship very different from the one I am generally known for. I can remember one occasion, taking a shower with my wife while high, in which I had an idea on the origins and invalidities of racism in terms of gaussian distribution curves. It was a point obvious in a way, but rarely talked about. I drew the curves in soap on the shower wall, and went to write the idea down. One idea led to another, and at the end of about an hour of extremely hard work I found I had written eleven short essays on a wide range of social, political, philosophical, and human biological topics. Because of problems of space, I can't go into the details of these essays, but from all external signs, such as public reactions and expert commentary, they seem to contain valid insights. I have used them in university commencement addresses, public lectures, and in my books.

… I am convinced that there are genuine and valid levels of perception available with cannabis (and probably with other drugs) which are, through the defects of our society and our educational system, unavailable to us without such drugs…

… If you're high and your child is calling, you can respond about as capably as you usually do. I don't advocate driving when high on cannabis, but I can tell you from personal experience that it certainly can be done. My high is always reflective, peaceable, intellectually exciting, and sociable, unlike most alcohol highs, and there is never a hangover…

… the illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:06 pm

Gunbot wrote:Carl Sagan excerpts:

…Initially I was unwilling to partake, but the apparent euphoria that cannabis produced and the fact that there was no physiological addiction to the plant eventually persuaded me to try… I have smoked occasionally and enjoyed it thoroughly. It amplifies torpid sensibilities and produces what to me are even more interesting effects…

The cannabis experience has greatly improved my appreciation for art, a subject which I had never much appreciated before…

A very similar improvement in my appreciation of music has occurred with cannabis. For the first time I have been able to hear the separate parts of a three-part harmony and the richness of the counterpoint…

The enjoyment of food is amplified; tastes and aromas emerge that for some reason we ordinarily seem to be too busy to notice… Cannabis also enhances the enjoyment of sex…

I do not consider myself a religious person in the usual sense, but there is a religious aspect to some highs. The heightened sensitivity in all areas gives me a feeling of communion with my surroundings, both animate and inanimate…

When I'm high I can penetrate into the past, recall childhood memories, friends, relatives, playthings, streets, smells, sounds, and tastes from a vanished era. I can reconstruct the actual occurrences in childhood events only half understood at the time…

I find that most of the insights I achieve when high are into social issues, an area of creative scholarship very different from the one I am generally known for. I can remember one occasion, taking a shower with my wife while high, in which I had an idea on the origins and invalidities of racism in terms of gaussian distribution curves. It was a point obvious in a way, but rarely talked about. I drew the curves in soap on the shower wall, and went to write the idea down. One idea led to another, and at the end of about an hour of extremely hard work I found I had written eleven short essays on a wide range of social, political, philosophical, and human biological topics. Because of problems of space, I can't go into the details of these essays, but from all external signs, such as public reactions and expert commentary, they seem to contain valid insights. I have used them in university commencement addresses, public lectures, and in my books.

… I am convinced that there are genuine and valid levels of perception available with cannabis (and probably with other drugs) which are, through the defects of our society and our educational system, unavailable to us without such drugs…

… If you're high and your child is calling, you can respond about as capably as you usually do. I don't advocate driving when high on cannabis, but I can tell you from personal experience that it certainly can be done. My high is always reflective, peaceable, intellectually exciting, and sociable, unlike most alcohol highs, and there is never a hangover…

… the illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world.


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Postby Don » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:12 pm

That's from the early 70's. I think that was wife number 1. He had 3 of them.
So In conclusion, you are probably right.
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Postby Voyager » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:17 pm

The Sushi Hunter wrote:Next, how about the 10,000,000 potheads who were not successful?


How about the 20,000,000 non-potheads who are deadbeats anyway?

The latest craze in Europe is vaporizing weed. It removes the toxins and carcinogens from smoking, making the THC delivery much cleaner. It has begun to become very popular in the USA now too. It removes the respiratory health concerns. Many people medical marijuana users prefer using a vaporizer. It works great!

I'll never smoke weed again. I promise. (Unless my vape breaks down.)

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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:03 pm

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The Sushi Hunter wrote:Next, how about the 10,000,000 potheads who were not successful?


How about the 20,000,000 non-potheads who are deadbeats anyway?

The latest craze in Europe is vaporizing weed. It removes the toxins and carcinogens from smoking, making the THC delivery much cleaner. It has begun to become very popular in the USA now too. It removes the respiratory health concerns. Many people medical marijuana users prefer using a vaporizer. It works great!

I'll never smoke weed again. I promise. (Unless my vape breaks down.)

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Deadbeats? Are you referring to Deadbeat dads? I'm sure pot had a lot to do with the decision making process of deadbeat dads. And medical marijuana is the biggest fucking bullshit excuse to smoke pot there ever was. I have zero tolerance for individuals who use that excuse cause they want to get high. And in cases where people say they need pot to make themselves happy, I say find something legal to do in order to be happy. There's so much more out there then illigal drugs, try a fucking salad or a bowl of fresh fruit. Maybe a 6am walk down the beach some morning after an full eight hour sleep with plenty of fresh air will fix that unhappy feeling.

I'm thrilled to death that the Europeans are vaporizing weed over there, cause that's just the start, next they will start doing other controlled substances because weed will become useless to them after their bodies build up a tolerance to it's effects. My wife and I went to the movies last weekend with another couple. Right before the movie started they ran a bit with kids saying stupid things they did because they were on pot at the time. One kid said "I drove off leaving my friends to walk home....." cause he was high on pot. We should get some adult ones too, like "I fucked this chick up the ass without a condom on and then found out she was a guy....cause I was high on pot."
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Postby finalfight » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:06 pm

This is one artist who never touches the stuff. :x
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Postby Don » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:11 pm

finalfight wrote:This is one artist who never touches the stuff. :x


I learned how to smoke pot while I was in the boy scouts. We would smoke it in the back pews of a church we had to clean every Thursday night. I can't recall if it it made me feel any closer to God.
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Postby Voyager » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:16 pm

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finalfight wrote:This is one artist who never touches the stuff. :x


I learned how to smoke pot while I was in the boy scouts. We would smoke it in the back pews of a church we had to clean every Thursday night. I can't recall if it it made me feel any closer to God.


I'm sure Jesus knows what it's like to have to score a nickel bag in the hood during a dry spell.


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"Give me my money back, or let's see the weed homeboy!"

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Postby Don » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:19 pm

Voyager wrote:
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finalfight wrote:This is one artist who never touches the stuff. :x


I learned how to smoke pot while I was in the boy scouts. We would smoke it in the back pews of a church we had to clean every Thursday night. I can't recall if it it made me feel any closer to God.


I'm sure Jesus knows what it's like to have to score a nickel bag in the hood.

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If you want to see some funky shit going down in church, watch the first five minutes of "Bad Lieutenant" with Harvey Keitel.
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Postby Voyager » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:22 pm

Gunbot wrote:If you want to see some funky shit going down in church, watch the first five minutes of "Bad Lieutenant" with Harvey Keitel.


You haven't seen Funky Church until you've seen this brutha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8MJKmq7phg

Now that's my kind of television evangelist.

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Postby SherriBerry » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:58 pm

I live in BC where we have a huge problem with pot. So many users drive high that we are having to change the laws so the police can perform roadside tests. It's particularly bad in the lower mainland and areas of the southern interior where they grow a lot of it - its use is more tolerated by society there and more people are out in the open high and driving. It's interesting that many of the famous people listed also had other drug issues - Stephen King nearly killed himself with his alcoholism and cocaine use. Neither my friends nor I ever touch the stuff, but everyone I know who uses it sounds like Tommy Chong. Perhaps the talented people listed were simply a lot smarter than the general public to begin with and can afford the impact on their cognitive abilities. You wouldn't know it around here though. None of the local potheads are on their way to building billion dollar empires - just a good case of the munchies.
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Postby Voyager » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:50 pm

SherriBerry wrote:I live in BC where we have a huge problem with pot. So many users drive high that we are having to change the laws so the police can perform roadside tests. It's particularly bad in the lower mainland and areas of the southern interior where they grow a lot of it - its use is more tolerated by society there and more people are out in the open high and driving. It's interesting that many of the famous people listed also had other drug issues - Stephen King nearly killed himself with his alcoholism and cocaine use. Neither my friends nor I ever touch the stuff, but everyone I know who uses it sounds like Tommy Chong. Perhaps the talented people listed were simply a lot smarter than the general public to begin with and can afford the impact on their cognitive abilities. You wouldn't know it around here though. None of the local potheads are on their way to building billion dollar empires - just a good case of the munchies.


Do you live in the midst of a bunch of illegal immigrants or what the fuck? Sounds like more than a "stoner" problem... sounds like a bunch of fucking peasants feeding off the locals.

I'm sorry to hear that your local potheads are not living up to the national average. What are they putting in the weed around your town - PCP?

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Postby SherriBerry » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:43 pm

Voyager wrote:
SherriBerry wrote:I live in BC where we have a huge problem with pot. So many users drive high that we are having to change the laws so the police can perform roadside tests. It's particularly bad in the lower mainland and areas of the southern interior where they grow a lot of it - its use is more tolerated by society there and more people are out in the open high and driving. It's interesting that many of the famous people listed also had other drug issues - Stephen King nearly killed himself with his alcoholism and cocaine use. Neither my friends nor I ever touch the stuff, but everyone I know who uses it sounds like Tommy Chong. Perhaps the talented people listed were simply a lot smarter than the general public to begin with and can afford the impact on their cognitive abilities. You wouldn't know it around here though. None of the local potheads are on their way to building billion dollar empires - just a good case of the munchies.


Do you live in the midst of a bunch of illegal immigrants or what the fuck? Sounds like more than a "stoner" problem... sounds like a bunch of fucking peasants feeding off the locals.

I'm sorry to hear that your local potheads are not living up to the national average. What are they putting in the weed around your town - PCP?

:shock:


You're a pot proponent and you aren't familiar with BC's reputation? It's estimated to be our second largest export in the billions of dollars, though with the current economy it may be at number one. While there are islands off BC's coast, the Nelson/Slocan Valley area is well known for the hippies and US draft dodgers that located there in the 60's and 70's and set up a huge industry, a few hours from where I live. Use is so common in those areas that the police take a very lenient approach and it isn't unusual to see people smoking it in public.

If you don't like my opinion on this too bad - I have seen the negative impact on too many people to take it so lightly. My brother was once shot at because he was checking a substation and ended up too close to some grow op. There is nothing "cool" about it to me, but what you do is your own choice as long as you don't get behind the wheel of a car.
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Postby Liquid_Drummer » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:26 am

Voyager wrote:
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KenTheDude wrote:Never tried it and have no desire to. But that's just me.


My wife doesn't care for it, but I have been known to take a recreational toke now and then.

Phelps obviously likes it. I think it's sad how he lost his contract with Kelloggs over it. To me it's no different than if he was caught drinking a beer. Alcohol is much more dangerous, but it's legal. Go figure.

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It should only be legal when sitting home alone, in front of your computer, listening to the music of choice.. :lol:

Other than that, life's better without it.

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The same could be said for alcohol. A guy that used to live down the street from us was driving home from an office party 10 miles from here a few years ago, and he was drunk and drove into the wrong lane of traffic on a highway by driving up the offramp. He hit a car head-on with six college kids in it, and they were all killed. He is now in prison for 20 years, and his three young children are fatherless. His wife is in shock. He ruined the lives of eight families, and he didn't even have a criminal record. He was only 23 years old and had a good job at an auto dealership in the finance department.

You don't hear about that happening to someone after doing too many bong hits because it simply doesn't.

8)




Fact, fact, fact.. All the the anti pot folks hate that statistic. You should never drive on anything but oxygen however it has been proven time and time again that horrible things like this NEVER happen with pot. The worst that happens with pot is the crime associated with bad drug deals. With it legal there would be no bad drug deals. Remember when alcohol was prohibited ? It created a criminal empire that resulted in countless mob related deaths and turned many cities in to mob war zones. The canadian border was even hazardous as that was the closest place to get real whiskey. So many died.

Make something that people want illegal and you only force it underground, remove all regulation and create criminal empires. Laws will NEVER stop people from doing things as they never have.. I wonder how much many a year WE spend housing inmates that are jailed for possession of pot ? I bet it is a lot and with the current economic crisis we sure could use so extra cash. Also, the over crowded legal system would get a bit of re-leaf hehe.. As the economy worsens crime goes up. We will need those beds for armed robbers not potheads !!

The fact that pot laws do WAY more harm to people and families than the drug itself if obvious but not in the spotlight as it should be

Gateway drug ?? My ass... THat is called a lame excuse... Everything is a gateway drug if you are prone to caving in to peer pressure. If there ever was a gateway drug it is alcohol.. It's a gateway to waking up with strange woman and having no memory (never will happen on pot), it is a gateway to a terrible hangover and missed work (never gonna happen on pot), it is a gateway to many other things because it lowers your inhibitions and pot does not.

End of rant...
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Postby finalfight » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:16 am

Liquid_Drummer wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
Voyager wrote:
KenTheDude wrote:Never tried it and have no desire to. But that's just me.


My wife doesn't care for it, but I have been known to take a recreational toke now and then.

Phelps obviously likes it. I think it's sad how he lost his contract with Kelloggs over it. To me it's no different than if he was caught drinking a beer. Alcohol is much more dangerous, but it's legal. Go figure.

8)



It should only be legal when sitting home alone, in front of your computer, listening to the music of choice.. :lol:

Other than that, life's better without it.

Time/Place


The same could be said for alcohol. A guy that used to live down the street from us was driving home from an office party 10 miles from here a few years ago, and he was drunk and drove into the wrong lane of traffic on a highway by driving up the offramp. He hit a car head-on with six college kids in it, and they were all killed. He is now in prison for 20 years, and his three young children are fatherless. His wife is in shock. He ruined the lives of eight families, and he didn't even have a criminal record. He was only 23 years old and had a good job at an auto dealership in the finance department.

You don't hear about that happening to someone after doing too many bong hits because it simply doesn't.

8)




Fact, fact, fact.. All the the anti pot folks hate that statistic. You should never drive on anything but oxygen however it has been proven time and time again that horrible things like this NEVER happen with pot. The worst that happens with pot is the crime associated with bad drug deals. With it legal there would be no bad drug deals. Remember when alcohol was prohibited ? It created a criminal empire that resulted in countless mob related deaths and turned many cities in to mob war zones. The canadian border was even hazardous as that was the closest place to get real whiskey. So many died.


Fiction. Never say never.

The following are randomly pulled from the first page a simple Google search using the words - vehicle accident marijuana

There are substantially more news reports to be found about the role of marijuana in car accidents, including those involving serious injury or fatality.

Whilst there is no doubt that drink driving is by far the bigger threat, to say that somehow accidents don't happen when people smoke pot is frankly ludicrous and also a dangerous point of view. Accidents happen when people are stone cold sober, pot does not make you a better driver and that's a fact.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news ... -car-crash

http://www.car-accident-claim.com/car-a ... idents.htm

http://ihatephilly.blogspot.com/2008/02 ... d-for.html

http://courts.state.ar.us/opinions/2006 ... 5-817.html
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Postby artist4perry » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:26 am

finalfight wrote:
Liquid_Drummer wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
Voyager wrote:
KenTheDude wrote:Never tried it and have no desire to. But that's just me.


My wife doesn't care for it, but I have been known to take a recreational toke now and then.

Phelps obviously likes it. I think it's sad how he lost his contract with Kelloggs over it. To me it's no different than if he was caught drinking a beer. Alcohol is much more dangerous, but it's legal. Go figure.

8)



It should only be legal when sitting home alone, in front of your computer, listening to the music of choice.. :lol:

Other than that, life's better without it.

Time/Place


The same could be said for alcohol. A guy that used to live down the street from us was driving home from an office party 10 miles from here a few years ago, and he was drunk and drove into the wrong lane of traffic on a highway by driving up the offramp. He hit a car head-on with six college kids in it, and they were all killed. He is now in prison for 20 years, and his three young children are fatherless. His wife is in shock. He ruined the lives of eight families, and he didn't even have a criminal record. He was only 23 years old and had a good job at an auto dealership in the finance department.

You don't hear about that happening to someone after doing too many bong hits because it simply doesn't.

8)




Fact, fact, fact.. All the the anti pot folks hate that statistic. You should never drive on anything but oxygen however it has been proven time and time again that horrible things like this NEVER happen with pot. The worst that happens with pot is the crime associated with bad drug deals. With it legal there would be no bad drug deals. Remember when alcohol was prohibited ? It created a criminal empire that resulted in countless mob related deaths and turned many cities in to mob war zones. The canadian border was even hazardous as that was the closest place to get real whiskey. So many died.


Fiction. Never say never.

The following are randomly pulled from the first page a simple Google search using the words - vehicle accident marijuana

There are substantially more news reports to be found about the role of marijuana in car accidents, including those involving serious injury or fatality.

Whilst there is no doubt that drink driving is by far the bigger threat, to say that somehow accidents don't happen when people smoke pot is frankly ludicrous and also a dangerous point of view. Accidents happen when people are stone cold sober, pot does not make you a better driver and that's a fact.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news ... -car-crash

http://www.car-accident-claim.com/car-a ... idents.htm

http://ihatephilly.blogspot.com/2008/02 ... d-for.html

http://courts.state.ar.us/opinions/2006 ... 5-817.html


Agreed. Most would be angry if a school bus driver smoked pot and drove children to school. So why is it different for anyone else to do the same? If it slows your body reactions, locomotor skills, or cognative abilities you should not do it while driving, yes many things do the same thing. So they should not be done also.
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Postby Rick » Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:53 am

artist4perry wrote:
finalfight wrote:
Liquid_Drummer wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
Voyager wrote:
KenTheDude wrote:Never tried it and have no desire to. But that's just me.


My wife doesn't care for it, but I have been known to take a recreational toke now and then.

Phelps obviously likes it. I think it's sad how he lost his contract with Kelloggs over it. To me it's no different than if he was caught drinking a beer. Alcohol is much more dangerous, but it's legal. Go figure.

8)



It should only be legal when sitting home alone, in front of your computer, listening to the music of choice.. :lol:

Other than that, life's better without it.

Time/Place


The same could be said for alcohol. A guy that used to live down the street from us was driving home from an office party 10 miles from here a few years ago, and he was drunk and drove into the wrong lane of traffic on a highway by driving up the offramp. He hit a car head-on with six college kids in it, and they were all killed. He is now in prison for 20 years, and his three young children are fatherless. His wife is in shock. He ruined the lives of eight families, and he didn't even have a criminal record. He was only 23 years old and had a good job at an auto dealership in the finance department.

You don't hear about that happening to someone after doing too many bong hits because it simply doesn't.

8)




Fact, fact, fact.. All the the anti pot folks hate that statistic. You should never drive on anything but oxygen however it has been proven time and time again that horrible things like this NEVER happen with pot. The worst that happens with pot is the crime associated with bad drug deals. With it legal there would be no bad drug deals. Remember when alcohol was prohibited ? It created a criminal empire that resulted in countless mob related deaths and turned many cities in to mob war zones. The canadian border was even hazardous as that was the closest place to get real whiskey. So many died.


Fiction. Never say never.

The following are randomly pulled from the first page a simple Google search using the words - vehicle accident marijuana

There are substantially more news reports to be found about the role of marijuana in car accidents, including those involving serious injury or fatality.

Whilst there is no doubt that drink driving is by far the bigger threat, to say that somehow accidents don't happen when people smoke pot is frankly ludicrous and also a dangerous point of view. Accidents happen when people are stone cold sober, pot does not make you a better driver and that's a fact.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news ... -car-crash

http://www.car-accident-claim.com/car-a ... idents.htm

http://ihatephilly.blogspot.com/2008/02 ... d-for.html

http://courts.state.ar.us/opinions/2006 ... 5-817.html


Agreed. Most would be angry if a school bus driver smoked pot and drove children to school. So why is it different for anyone else to do the same? If it slows your body reactions, locomotor skills, or cognative abilities you should not do it while driving, yes many things do the same thing. So they should not be done also.


I'd have to be looped to drive with a bus load of kids in this day and age. :lol:
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Postby Voyager » Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:58 am

I wouldn't worry very much if my kids' school bus driver was high on weed while driving. I would be much more worried if he was drinking alcohol while driving.

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Postby artist4perry » Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:02 am

Rick wrote:
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Voyager wrote:
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Voyager wrote:
KenTheDude wrote:Never tried it and have no desire to. But that's just me.


My wife doesn't care for it, but I have been known to take a recreational toke now and then.

Phelps obviously likes it. I think it's sad how he lost his contract with Kelloggs over it. To me it's no different than if he was caught drinking a beer. Alcohol is much more dangerous, but it's legal. Go figure.

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It should only be legal when sitting home alone, in front of your computer, listening to the music of choice.. :lol:

Other than that, life's better without it.

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The same could be said for alcohol. A guy that used to live down the street from us was driving home from an office party 10 miles from here a few years ago, and he was drunk and drove into the wrong lane of traffic on a highway by driving up the offramp. He hit a car head-on with six college kids in it, and they were all killed. He is now in prison for 20 years, and his three young children are fatherless. His wife is in shock. He ruined the lives of eight families, and he didn't even have a criminal record. He was only 23 years old and had a good job at an auto dealership in the finance department.

You don't hear about that happening to someone after doing too many bong hits because it simply doesn't.

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Fact, fact, fact.. All the the anti pot folks hate that statistic. You should never drive on anything but oxygen however it has been proven time and time again that horrible things like this NEVER happen with pot. The worst that happens with pot is the crime associated with bad drug deals. With it legal there would be no bad drug deals. Remember when alcohol was prohibited ? It created a criminal empire that resulted in countless mob related deaths and turned many cities in to mob war zones. The canadian border was even hazardous as that was the closest place to get real whiskey. So many died.


Fiction. Never say never.

The following are randomly pulled from the first page a simple Google search using the words - vehicle accident marijuana

There are substantially more news reports to be found about the role of marijuana in car accidents, including those involving serious injury or fatality.

Whilst there is no doubt that drink driving is by far the bigger threat, to say that somehow accidents don't happen when people smoke pot is frankly ludicrous and also a dangerous point of view. Accidents happen when people are stone cold sober, pot does not make you a better driver and that's a fact.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news ... -car-crash

http://www.car-accident-claim.com/car-a ... idents.htm

http://ihatephilly.blogspot.com/2008/02 ... d-for.html

http://courts.state.ar.us/opinions/2006 ... 5-817.html


Agreed. Most would be angry if a school bus driver smoked pot and drove children to school. So why is it different for anyone else to do the same? If it slows your body reactions, locomotor skills, or cognative abilities you should not do it while driving, yes many things do the same thing. So they should not be done also.


I'd have to be looped to drive with a bus load of kids in this day and age. :lol:


I am a teacher, no drug is that potent, the horror...........the horror! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: OT: Top 10 Most Successful Potheads on the Planet

Postby jrnyman28 » Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:48 am

Voyager wrote:The 10 Most Successful Potheads on the Planet… Cool Enough to Admit It

February 6, 2009 - 12:11 pm By Chuck - Boston University

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Sir Richard Branson

While the ‘Sir’ in front of this guy’s name puts him in some very elite company, it doesn’t automatically get him on this list. What does earn him a spot is the fact that he’s the 236th richest person in the world, founder of the Virgin empire, which encompasses everything from airlines to record stores to cell phones, and made his entire multi-billion dollar fortune from absolutely nothing. Not only does this man smoke weed, he gets high with his 21-year-old son. He has publicly stated that there’s nothing wrong with smoking pot, has petitioned for the legalization of pot, and even said that if it were legal, he’d sell it.


VIRGIN WEED?!?!?!
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Postby jrnyman28 » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:08 am

I think weed should be legal. I think the taboo nature of it should be removed. I think there are far too many uses for hemp to continue treating cannabis as a problem.

That being said....EVERYTHING and ANYTHING can be taken to excess. I have seen negative aspects of too much weed use. It will mess you up if you use too much too often. But you can recover. Weed addiction doesn't seem to be as difficult or widespread a problem as alcoholism.

I firmly believe alcohol is worse for you than weed. Hell, I KNOW cigarettes are worse than weed. And yet they are legal.

Let the government regulate and tax weed and see a surplus budget.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:12 am

Voyager wrote:I wouldn't worry very much if my kids' school bus driver was high on weed while driving. I would be much more worried if he was drinking alcohol while driving.

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Careful what you wish for.

Pot....alcohol, really what's the difference, they both fuck up a person.
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Postby Angiekay » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:43 am

Gunbot wrote:
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KenTheDude wrote:Never tried it and have no desire to. But that's just me.


My wife doesn't care for it, but I have been known to take a recreational toke now and then.

Phelps obviously likes it. I think it's sad how he lost his contract with Kelloggs over it. To me it's no different than if he was caught drinking a beer. Alcohol is much more dangerous, but it's legal. Go figure.

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Even alcohol to an extent is unfairly demonized. Is it really fair to give a 20-year-old kid a $500+ underage citation and take his license away for having 5 or 6 beers at a party? These days, you're almost better off getting caught shoplifting something trivial than having a beer before you're 21. Pretty ridiculous really.

I'm not saying it's ok to hammer a bottle of Goose or a case of beer and drive around town, but still, the Puritanical attitude towards drinking and even pot are pretty stupid. I don't even smoke pot and I do have a few friends who have let their lives fall apart because they started smoking pot (if not from becoming lazy, then from pot being their gateway to acid/coke), but I still don't think it should be illegal. There will always be potheads, drunk drivers, abusive alcoholics, and lazy people irrespective of any laws/societal attitudes we have.


Lets see now, first a DUI arrest (luckily, nobody got hit when he ran the stop sign that got him busted), then the Bong action. Maybe Kellogg's saw a little bit of a pattern developing.



Doritos was on the phone picking him up right after Kelloggs dumped him. :lol:








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Postby MrsPerry » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:45 am

KenTheDude wrote:Never tried it and have no desire to. But that's just me.


I haven't either. Stoli is my vice.
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Postby KenTheDude » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:47 am

I couldn't do drugs even if I wanted to. I get random drug tested at work. Lately they've been taking a snip of your hair instead of piss. And they also give you a breathalyzer test. Since I shave my head, I had to freakin' shave one of my arm pits last time I was randomed. How do you women do that shit? It itched like a bitch for a week.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:50 am

KenTheDude wrote:I couldn't do drugs even if I wanted to. I get random drug tested at work. Lately they've been taking a snip of your hair instead of piss. And they also give you a breathalyzer test. Since I shave my head, I had to freakin' shave one of my arm pits last time I was randomed. How do you women do that shit? It itched like a bitch for a week.

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