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Postby Voyager » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:04 am

TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Ameneh Bahrami is certain that one day she'll meet someone, fall in love and get married. But when her wedding day comes, her husband won't see her eyes, and she won't see her husband. Bahrami is blind, the victim of an acid attack by a spurned suitor.

Ameneh Bahrami said her attacker pestered her with marriage demands.

If she gets her way, her attacker will suffer the same fate. The 31-year-old Iranian is demanding the ancient punishment of "an eye for an eye," and, in accordance with Islamic law, she wants to blind Majid Movahedi, the man who blinded her.

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Photos from before and the attack.

"I don't want to blind him for revenge," Bahrami said in her parents' Tehran apartment. "I'm doing this to prevent it from happening to someone else."

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Photo of her attacker.

Bahrami says she first crossed paths with Movahedi in 2002, when they attended the same university.

She was a 24-year-old electronics student. He was 19. She never noticed him until they shared a class. He sat next to her one day and brushed up against her. Bahrami says she knew it wasn't an accident.

"I moved away from him," she said, "but he brushed up against me again."

When Bahrami stood up in class and screamed for him to stop, Movahedi just looked at her in stunned silence. He wouldn't stay silent for long.

Bahrami said that over the next two years, Movahedi kept harassing her and making threats, even as he asked her to marry him. "He told me he would kill me. He said, 'You have to say yes.' "

On a November afternoon in 2004, Movahedi's threats turned to violence.

That day at 4:30 p.m., Bahrami left the medical engineering company where she worked. As she walked to the bus stop, she remembers sensing someone behind her.

She turned around and was startled to see Movahedi. A moment later came the agonizing pain. Movahedi had thrown something over her. What felt like fire on her face was acid searing through her skin.

"I was just yelling, 'I'm burning! I'm burning! For God's sake, somebody help me!' "

The acid seeped into Bahrami's eyes and streamed down her face and into her mouth. When she covered her face with her hands, streaks of acid ran down her fingers and onto her forearms.

Two weeks after the attack, Movahedi turned himself in to police and confessed in court. He was convicted in 2005 and has been behind bars all along.

Bahrami's lawyer, Ali Sarrafi, said Movahedi had never shown any remorse. "He says he did it because he loved her," Sarrafi said.

Attack victims in Iran usually accept "blood money": a fine in lieu of harsh punishment. With no insurance and mounting medical bills, Bahrami could've used the cash, but she said no.

"I told the judge I want an eye for an eye," Bahrami said. "People like him should be made to feel my suffering."

Bahrami's demand has outraged some human rights activists. Criticizing acid-attack victims is almost unheard of, but some Internet bloggers have condemned Bahrami's decision.

"We cannot condone such cruel punishment," wrote one blogger. "To willingly inflict the same treatment on a person under court order is a violation of human rights."

Late last year, an Iranian court gave Bahrami what she asked for. It sentenced Movahedi to be blinded with drops of acid in each eye. This month, the courts rejected Movahedi's appeal.

Bahrami's lawyer, Sarrafi, said the sentencing might be carried out in a matter of weeks. He said he doesn't think Bahrami will change her mind. Neither does Bahrami.

"If I don't do this and there is another acid attack, I will never forgive myself for as long as I live," she said.

Bahrami is largely self-sufficient despite not being able to see. She can make a salad, prepare tea and walk up the five flights of stairs that lead to her parents' apartment.

She has undergone more than a dozen surgeries on her badly scarred face, but she says there are many more to come. She can't afford to pay for her medical care, so she's using the Internet to raise money.

She's lost her big brown eyes, but she likes to smile, especially when she imagines her wedding day.

"I always see myself as someone who can see and sometimes see myself in a beautiful wedding gown, and why not?"


What do you think of his punishment?

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Postby RossValoryRocks » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:08 am

The eye for an eye bit is about letting the punishment fit the crime. I am not sure having someone blinded because you were is a just an fair punishment.
The only time agree with that is when a life is taken purposefully.
I say lock the bastard up until he died of old age. I am sure Iranian prisons are no joy ride.
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Re: OT: Blind woman demands acid in attacker's eyes

Postby bluejeangirl76 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:09 am

Voyager wrote:What do you think of his punishment?

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Have at it. 'No' means fucking 'no', and I don't care what country or culture it is.
He harrassed her, threatened her, and blinded her because she wouldn't marry him?
That is WAY extreme. Screw him.
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Postby Voyager » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:13 am

This dude is gonna start tripping once the word gets around the prison that he is going to get acid in his eyes as punishment.

I'll bet none of those woman-abusing Iranian camel jockeys ever toss acid in a woman's eyes again after this.

She is correct - this is not revenge - it's prevention.

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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:22 am

Voyager wrote:
She is correct - this is not revenge - it's prevention.



Well, this statement...

"Criticizing acid-attack victims is almost unheard of, but some Internet bloggers have condemned Bahrami's decision."

...indicates to me that this has been a repeated problem, not a one-time shocking story. So yeah... screw them. :evil: Make an example of the bastard, punish him for what he's done and hope it serves as a deterrant. I doubt it will prevent it any more than capital punishment prevents murder, but still. If it has some effect than I'd consider it progress.
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Postby StoneCold » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:26 am

This reminds me of Richard Farley.

He stalked co-worker Laura Black for four years beginning in 1984. Black obtained a temporary restraining order against him in February 2, 1988, with a court date set for February 17, 1988 to make the order permanent. On February 16, 1988, Farley shot and killed seven people at ESL and wounded four others, including Black.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Farley

I'm not blaming the victims but I'm always amazed when people stay within reach of overt stalkers.

When you have to take out "restraining orders" on a co-worker or ex-boyfriend, doesn't it cross their minds to pack up and go far, far away from them? They've given you enough notice that they're not going to stop.

I know its not easy to leave your job/life but its better than what ends up happening.

As for the perp in the thread, just put a bullet in his head and be done with it.
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Postby Voyager » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:28 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Voyager wrote:
She is correct - this is not revenge - it's prevention.



Well, this statement...

"Criticizing acid-attack victims is almost unheard of, but some Internet bloggers have condemned Bahrami's decision."

...indicates to me that this has been a repeated problem, not a one-time shocking story. So yeah... screw them. :evil: Make an example of the bastard, punish him for what he's done and hope it serves as a deterrant. I doubt it will prevent it any more than capital punishment prevents murder, but still. If it has some effect than I'd consider it progress.


It may not stop violence on women, but I am confident that the next time one of these freaks who is thinking about blinding someone with acid will think twice about their chosen method of inflicting harm.

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Postby Don » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:33 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Voyager wrote:
She is correct - this is not revenge - it's prevention.



Well, this statement...

"Criticizing acid-attack victims is almost unheard of, but some Internet bloggers have condemned Bahrami's decision."

...indicates to me that this has been a repeated problem, not a one-time shocking story. So yeah... screw them. :evil: Make an example of the bastard, punish him for what he's done and hope it serves as a deterrant. I doubt it will prevent it any more than capital punishment prevents murder, but still. If it has some effect than I'd consider it progress.


When I was in Panama, some of the bar girls had scarred faces. Apparently when the girl had spurned some guy, he threw acid in their face. As long as he wasn't caught in the first 24 hours he could turn himself in and claim it was a crime of passion. Then he would only suffer a fine instead of harsher punishment, meanwhile the girl is disfigured and no one wants to hire her so she becomes a bar girl working at discounted rates because she is damaged goods. There was suppose to be legislation to treat the assault as a serious crime but I never heard if it went through or not. I would think so but it is the third world so you never know.
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Postby StoneCold » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:36 am

Gunbot wrote:When I was in Panama, some of the bar girls had scarred faces. Apparently when the girl had spurned some guy, he threw acid in their face. As long as he wasn't caught in the first 24 hours he could turn himself in and claim it was a crime of passion. Then he would only suffer a fine instead of harsher punishment, meanwhile the girl is disfigured and no one wants to hire her so she becomes a bar girl working at discounted rates because she is damaged goods. There was suppose to be legislation to treat the assault as a serious crime but I never heard if it went through or not. I would think so but it is the third world so you never know.


Where's Anthony Geisler's challenge to this guy?
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Postby Voyager » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:37 am

Can you imagine how much it would suck to be this guy's cellmate after he finds out what the sentence is?
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Postby Don » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:38 am

StoneCold wrote:
Gunbot wrote:When I was in Panama, some of the bar girls had scarred faces. Apparently when the girl had spurned some guy, he threw acid in their face. As long as he wasn't caught in the first 24 hours he could turn himself in and claim it was a crime of passion. Then he would only suffer a fine instead of harsher punishment, meanwhile the girl is disfigured and no one wants to hire her so she becomes a bar girl working at discounted rates because she is damaged goods. There was suppose to be legislation to treat the assault as a serious crime but I never heard if it went through or not. I would think so but it is the third world so you never know.


Where's Anthony Geisler's challenge to this guy?


Anthony's probably down on Hill Street filing a restraining order against Chris Brown after some unwanted visitors showed up at his crib the last few nights. :lol:
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Postby Jubilee » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:39 am

StoneCold wrote:This reminds me of Richard Farley.

He stalked co-worker Laura Black for four years beginning in 1984. Black obtained a temporary restraining order against him in February 2, 1988, with a court date set for February 17, 1988 to make the order permanent. On February 16, 1988, Farley shot and killed seven people at ESL and wounded four others, including Black.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Farley

I'm not blaming the victims but I'm always amazed when people stay within reach of overt stalkers.

When you have to take out "restraining orders" on a co-worker or ex-boyfriend, doesn't it cross their minds to pack up and go far, far away from them? They've given you enough notice that they're not going to stop.
I know its not easy to leave your job/life but its better than what ends up happening.

As for the perp in the thread, just put a bullet in his head and be done with it.



Unfortunately, as in many cases, the victim likely failed to see the real danger she was in. Who knows? For all we know she may have seen this nut-job as being persistant, and maybe more than a little annoying, but she could never have imagined it would come to this. Remember, he's the nut-job here. Who knows what kind of happy little scenarios he was dreaming up in that addled brain of his while she was busy living her life, never giving him a second thought.

As for the punishment...I'm sure the Iranians will come up with something creative -- they always do... :wink:
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Postby Voyager » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:41 am

StoneCold wrote:When you have to take out "restraining orders" on a co-worker or ex-boyfriend, doesn't it cross their minds to pack up and go far, far away from them? They've given you enough notice that they're not going to stop.


The victim usually has no idea how the mind of a psychopath works. Most people don't sit around devising evil ways to get back at people who infuriate them.

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Postby NealIsGod » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:42 am

StoneCold wrote:When you have to take out "restraining orders" on a co-worker or ex-boyfriend, doesn't it cross their minds to pack up and go far, far away from them? They've given you enough notice that they're not going to stop.



It would suck letting someone control your life like that.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:54 am

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StoneCold wrote:When you have to take out "restraining orders" on a co-worker or ex-boyfriend, doesn't it cross their minds to pack up and go far, far away from them? They've given you enough notice that they're not going to stop.



It would suck letting someone control your life like that.


Not only that, but leaving is not always an option, or at least an immediate option. Think of how many women have children to support with maybe only little money or even no job because their husband/boyfriend was the provider... then the guy starts smacking her around or threatening her, stalking her... maybe she just can't get away fast enough and by then he's gone too far... women in these situations get shockingly little help or protection when threatened, because "we can't arrest him/prosecute him unless he's done something." Wonderful... so wait until he DOES something before you help. :roll:

The point is, women shouldn't have to be the ones to run away. But it seems like if you want any kind of help or way out of these things, you have to change your life and move away, hide, whatever. It isn't fair.
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Postby Voyager » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:36 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
StoneCold wrote:When you have to take out "restraining orders" on a co-worker or ex-boyfriend, doesn't it cross their minds to pack up and go far, far away from them? They've given you enough notice that they're not going to stop.



It would suck letting someone control your life like that.


Not only that, but leaving is not always an option, or at least an immediate option. Think of how many women have children to support with maybe only little money or even no job because their husband/boyfriend was the provider... then the guy starts smacking her around or threatening her, stalking her... maybe she just can't get away fast enough and by then he's gone too far... women in these situations get shockingly little help or protection when threatened, because "we can't arrest him/prosecute him unless he's done something." Wonderful... so wait until he DOES something before you help. :roll:

The point is, women shouldn't have to be the ones to run away. But it seems like if you want any kind of help or way out of these things, you have to change your life and move away, hide, whatever. It isn't fair.


You're right... but it's better here than in many places like Africa or the Middle East. I guess that's not much consolation for the woman who gets murdered or has to move away from her hometown to get away from a psycho. That is totally not fair.

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Postby artist4perry » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:43 am

She has had to live with the pain and the scarring, not to mention the loss of her sight. And why? Because some psychopath would not take no for an answer. She should be able to say what punnishment he should get. I am sorry if this offends some people. But it is easy not being the scarred blinded victim and say what should be fair.

Courts give child molesters little to no time for their crimes. Some only do a few months if that. The child bears the scars for life. Not always is justice fair to victims. I have no pitty for this cruel man.

In some countries women have no rights. They are beaten tortured and their rights are ignored. And can you imagine if she did marry him? First time the food was too cold or too hot, the trigger would not matter. He would torture or kill her. He has a sick view of love.

As far as should she have gotten away, or a restraining order, ask many women in this country how well restraining orders work. Restraining orders don't stop the guy from coming to your house kicking in the door and beating the crap out of you, yet again. They only enforce them after he has killed or nearly killed you. :evil: :evil:

Unfortunately there are more and more violent cases every day, where men feel it is O.K. to beat women. Media promotes violence to women, in songs, movies, and video. We need better role models for boys.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:31 am

So what ever happened to that moron who did this to her? It's Iran where she's from if I'm not mistaken so probably just a slap on the hand to just pasify the rest of the world, it's a man's world over in those parts. Personally I'd like to see a lot of things happen to this fucker. Maybe put him in a cage with a bunch of chimps would get him justice he deserves. I personally would love to see this fucker sent through a woodchipper, like in that 80's movie I can't remember the name of.
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Postby Behshad » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:40 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:So what ever happened to that moron who did this to her? It's Iran where she's from if I'm not mistaken so probably just a slap on the hand to just pasify the rest of the world, it's a man's world over in those parts. Personally I'd like to see a lot of things happen to this fucker. Maybe put him in a cage with a bunch of chimps would get him justice he deserves. I personally would love to see this fucker sent through a woodchipper, like in that 80's movie I can't remember the name of.


Theyre gonna punish him, rest assured,,, and in cases like this its more than just a "slap on the hand",,,, just the last 10 years or so, they have really made it strict to prevent shit like this. and this "eye for an eye" punishment has shown to be effective in some ways.,,,,
As an example, if a guy rapes a woman , or molests a child, they just castrate him.
Thats a law that should be applied in every country I think ....



Voyager wrote:This dude is gonna start tripping once the word gets around the prison that he is going to get acid in his eyes as punishment.

I'll bet none of those woman-abusing Iranian camel jockeys ever toss acid in a woman's eyes again after this.

She is correct - this is not revenge - it's prevention.


I doubt it that it will stop some crazy men to do it, but it sure will make them think twice.
The camel jockeys are in the arab countries, bro. get your facts straight.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:47 am

I thought Iran was considered an Arab nation. So what are they considered then....Middle Eastern?
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Postby Behshad » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:56 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:I thought Iran was considered an Arab nation. So what are they considered then....Middle Eastern?


Persian. 8)
Youre not the only one thinking that tho.

Its as bad as if someone would think Japanese people are the same as Chinese..... :lol: :wink:
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:05 am

Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I thought Iran was considered an Arab nation. So what are they considered then....Middle Eastern?


Persian. 8)
Youre not the only one thinking that tho.

Its as bad as if someone would think Japanese people are the same as Chinese..... :lol: :wink:


If their countries were physically connected, I could see why. The Japanese were said to have originated from Korea, before that from China where Mongolian tribes were. So basically Japanese are Chinese. :wink: Eskimo's are also in some ways Asian too. It all was during the Ice Age when the tribes followed the animals they were hunting across the ice.
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Postby Carla777 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:09 am

This is so sad and cruel, still happen in a lot of places included my country, machismo still run rampant in latin countries too..however don't seem to me fair or even think will help this guy , or the victim that he receive the same punishment..and agree with the activist that goes against human rights..and no because this guy didn't respect them we must do the same...now i don't feel much simpathy for him either..he should pay, but in jail, and hope he get a VERY VERY LONG TIME.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:12 am

Carla777 wrote:This is so sad and cruel, still happen in a lot of places included my country, machismo still run rampant in latin countries too..however don't seem to me fair or even think will help this guy , or the victim that he receive the same punishment..and agree with the activist that goes against human rights..and no because this guy didn't respect them we must do the same...now i don't feel much simpathy for him either..he should pay, but in jail, and hope he get a VERY VERY LONG TIME.


Let's see now....guy throws acid in womans face, authorities throw acid in guys face, anyone else thinking to throw acid in a woman's face will remember what happened to the last guy who did that.....domino effect. I say that would be a good problem solver.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:14 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I thought Iran was considered an Arab nation. So what are they considered then....Middle Eastern?


Persian. 8)
Youre not the only one thinking that tho.

Its as bad as if someone would think Japanese people are the same as Chinese..... :lol: :wink:


If their countries were physically connected, I could see why. The Japanese were said to have originated from Korea, before that from China where Mongolian tribes were. So basically Japanese are Chinese. :wink: Eskimo's are also in some ways Asian too. It all was during the Ice Age when the tribes followed the animals they were hunting across the ice.


Don't ever tell a Japanese person they are Chinese or the other way around :shock: I've seen it done and it's not a good thing!!
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:16 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I thought Iran was considered an Arab nation. So what are they considered then....Middle Eastern?


Persian. 8)
Youre not the only one thinking that tho.

Its as bad as if someone would think Japanese people are the same as Chinese..... :lol: :wink:


If their countries were physically connected, I could see why. The Japanese were said to have originated from Korea, before that from China where Mongolian tribes were. So basically Japanese are Chinese. :wink: Eskimo's are also in some ways Asian too. It all was during the Ice Age when the tribes followed the animals they were hunting across the ice.


Don't ever tell a Japanese person they are Chinese or the other way around :shock: I've seen it done and it's not a good thing!!


No...telling a Japanese that they are Korean and vs versa is the shit!
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Postby Angiekay » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:45 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I thought Iran was considered an Arab nation. So what are they considered then....Middle Eastern?


Persian. 8)
Youre not the only one thinking that tho.

Its as bad as if someone would think Japanese people are the same as Chinese..... :lol: :wink:


If their countries were physically connected, I could see why. The Japanese were said to have originated from Korea, before that from China where Mongolian tribes were. So basically Japanese are Chinese. :wink: Eskimo's are also in some ways Asian too. It all was during the Ice Age when the tribes followed the animals they were hunting across the ice.


Don't ever tell a Japanese person they are Chinese or the other way around :shock: I've seen it done and it's not a good thing!!


*AHEM* and don't lump all Arabs as Camel jockeys....


I say God Bless her and more power to her!








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