I remember a time....

[JRNYFan]

Rehash...

Just move on dude. Nobody likes someone with an agenda, especially a negative agenda that just puts people down. If you don't like the band, you don't have to follow them. Simple as that.

[Playitloudforme]

The difference between JSS and Arnel is, JSS was actually bringing back the people who said "I won't EVER go see Journey without Perry", and he ROCKED that fuckin' stage ANYWHERE they played. Arnel...the guy is NOT a frontman, nor does he have the chops to pull off that catalog. Again...good voice, but not for Journey. They need someone to annunciate the words.

and I agree. I was one that was not impressed by Augeri, blown away by JSS, disheartened (again) by his dismissal, and then even more so by their choice of JSS's replacement. After seeing the Superbowl, arguably the most important gig they had to-date to show off Arnel, many feel it was sub-par at best. Arnel had not re-anglicized his pronunciations due to his vacation back home, the same too-long notes as Chile, the spasmodic stage presence... ugh. Add eye rolling to the list now... and I'm thinking ...

they dumped Jeff for this??? WTF? Two months back home and it's the same garbage as Chile?

Does he have a good voice? Yes. Does he have the right voice? In my opinion, no. There's still struggling going on in hitting some key notes, not to mention the blasted holding onto notes too long. Does he not read music? 1/2 note, 1/4 note, whole note etc. And blaming his lack of preparation on being sick is no longer ok. Is he or is he not a professional? If you are a lead singer of a major Rock band like Journey, you have to be. So no bloody excuses. Does Neal come up with excuses? No. He plays. Same with the rest of the guys.. they suit up and show up and perform. So if Arnel isn't taking care of his instrument while on vacation, it affects the band. Neal wouldn't leave his guitar out in the rain, ya know?

I had the same issues back with the Chile introduction of Arnel, so after all this time, I see no improvement. And I can't tell you how disappointing that is. I don't just want someone that can hit most of the notes ... not for this band.

Journey doesn't get my money anymore. and it breaks my heart.

[DrFU]

Because a lot of people on this site (and elsewhere) depict these assholes as saints. They're douchebags. And this coming from a guy who HAD tremendous respect for Neal's guitar playing, and what Friga brought to the band with Escape - Arrival. Now, it's all just stale bullshit. YES, YOU HEARD ME JOURNEY, BULLSHIT. Get Perry back, do a farewell tour, and then call it quits with Journey.

I always hear about Ritchie Blackmore that he was so narcisistic person, and that he was this and the other..well he is a human, a genius, and i guess artist can show a special behavior sometimes, but never change my mind about his work in music, he is an awesome guitar player, and now he is with his personal project wich i'm not really interested so i don't listen..but i'll never want for him he quit making music whatever this might be, and yes i prefer him in rainbow or deep purple, but well is my option keep buying his new music or not.
as for Journey..with all the new bands around and after all this time this band still remain, and still creates, hope they can come out with new music material and better records with Pineda, is all i care.

Saludos

You're so right, Carla. I'm sure Perry, Neal, and Jonathan have all been assholes many times over. Creatively speaking they're fantastic.

Sometimes we all can be, quite a human trait .....but creative yes, none the less!

If being an asshole or a douchbag were grounds for cutting off dealings with people, they'd have to shut the place I work down because we wouldn't be able to conduct business.

[artist4perry]

Because a lot of people on this site (and elsewhere) depict these assholes as saints. They're douchebags. And this coming from a guy who HAD tremendous respect for Neal's guitar playing, and what Friga brought to the band with Escape - Arrival. Now, it's all just stale bullshit. YES, YOU HEARD ME JOURNEY, BULLSHIT. Get Perry back, do a farewell tour, and then call it quits with Journey.

I always hear about Ritchie Blackmore that he was so narcisistic person, and that he was this and the other..well he is a human, a genius, and i guess artist can show a special behavior sometimes, but never change my mind about his work in music, he is an awesome guitar player, and now he is with his personal project wich i'm not really interested so i don't listen..but i'll never want for him he quit making music whatever this might be, and yes i prefer him in rainbow or deep purple, but well is my option keep buying his new music or not.
as for Journey..with all the new bands around and after all this time this band still remain, and still creates, hope they can come out with new music material and better records with Pineda, is all i care.

Saludos

You're so right, Carla. I'm sure Perry, Neal, and Jonathan have all been assholes many times over. Creatively speaking they're fantastic.

Sometimes we all can be, quite a human trait .....but creative yes, none the less!

If being an asshole or a douchbag were grounds for cutting off dealings with people, they'd have to shut the place I work down because we wouldn't be able to conduct business.

Just my point! Personalities clash. If you don't think so, go work in an office. Their office is a tiny bus on long rides every day for almost a year. Someones feet stink, someone farts too much, someone snores, someone took my food, drink, etc............

[RocknRoll]

Because a lot of people on this site (and elsewhere) depict these assholes as saints. They're douchebags. And this coming from a guy who HAD tremendous respect for Neal's guitar playing, and what Friga brought to the band with Escape - Arrival. Now, it's all just stale bullshit. YES, YOU HEARD ME JOURNEY, BULLSHIT. Get Perry back, do a farewell tour, and then call it quits with Journey.

I always hear about Ritchie Blackmore that he was so narcisistic person, and that he was this and the other..well he is a human, a genius, and i guess artist can show a special behavior sometimes, but never change my mind about his work in music, he is an awesome guitar player, and now he is with his personal project wich i'm not really interested so i don't listen..but i'll never want for him he quit making music whatever this might be, and yes i prefer him in rainbow or deep purple, but well is my option keep buying his new music or not.
as for Journey..with all the new bands around and after all this time this band still remain, and still creates, hope they can come out with new music material and better records with Pineda, is all i care.

Saludos

You're so right, Carla. I'm sure Perry, Neal, and Jonathan have all been assholes many times over. Creatively speaking they're fantastic.

Sometimes we all can be, quite a human trait .....but creative yes, none the less!

If being an asshole or a douchbag were grounds for cutting off dealings with people, they'd have to shut the place I work down because we wouldn't be able to conduct business.

So true Linda. Although I hear acadamia is one of the worst.

[DrFU]

Because a lot of people on this site (and elsewhere) depict these assholes as saints. They're douchebags. And this coming from a guy who HAD tremendous respect for Neal's guitar playing, and what Friga brought to the band with Escape - Arrival. Now, it's all just stale bullshit. YES, YOU HEARD ME JOURNEY, BULLSHIT. Get Perry back, do a farewell tour, and then call it quits with Journey.

I always hear about Ritchie Blackmore that he was so narcisistic person, and that he was this and the other..well he is a human, a genius, and i guess artist can show a special behavior sometimes, but never change my mind about his work in music, he is an awesome guitar player, and now he is with his personal project wich i'm not really interested so i don't listen..but i'll never want for him he quit making music whatever this might be, and yes i prefer him in rainbow or deep purple, but well is my option keep buying his new music or not.
as for Journey..with all the new bands around and after all this time this band still remain, and still creates, hope they can come out with new music material and better records with Pineda, is all i care.

Saludos

You're so right, Carla. I'm sure Perry, Neal, and Jonathan have all been assholes many times over. Creatively speaking they're fantastic.

Sometimes we all can be, quite a human trait .....but creative yes, none the less!

If being an asshole or a douchbag were grounds for cutting off dealings with people, they'd have to shut the place I work down because we wouldn't be able to conduct business.

So true Linda. Although I hear acadamia is one of the worst.

It's pretty breathtaking. Eveyone has long strings of initials after their names, most are totally convinced that their needs are way more important than everyone else's, and a goodly chunk of them actually BELIEVE what is written in their press releases about how smart and important they are. MR trolls and psycho bees seem tame by comparison some days.

[Don]

i've met rick, he's the most!!

It was really special meeting You, Dean and Wyatt, finally. You're such a nice lady and great mother. Wyatt is the happiest little boy around and definitely gets his looks from his momma. And Deano, what a blast he was. Wish I could have spent more time with all of you.

Lula is a ray of light in a dark room.

[StoneCold]

i've met rick, he's the most!!

It was really special meeting You, Dean and Wyatt, finally. You're such a nice lady and great mother. Wyatt is the happiest little boy around and definitely gets his looks from his momma. And Deano, what a blast he was. Wish I could have spent more time with all of you.

Lula is a ray of light in a dark room.

Dude, is that supposed to be a compliment?

Oh, and Rick is the most.

[Don]

i've met rick, he's the most!!

It was really special meeting You, Dean and Wyatt, finally. You're such a nice lady and great mother. Wyatt is the happiest little boy around and definitely gets his looks from his momma. And Deano, what a blast he was. Wish I could have spent more time with all of you.

Lula is a ray of light in a dark room.

Dude, is that supposed to be a compliment?

Oh, and Rick is the most.

It's a word association game. Didn't Rick PM you?

[Carla777]

The difference between JSS and Arnel is, JSS was actually bringing back the people who said "I won't EVER go see Journey without Perry", and he ROCKED that fuckin' stage ANYWHERE they played. Arnel...the guy is NOT a frontman, nor does he have the chops to pull off that catalog. Again...good voice, but not for Journey. They need someone to annunciate the words.

and I agree. I was one that was not impressed by Augeri, blown away by JSS, disheartened (again) by his dismissal, and then even more so by their choice of JSS's replacement. After seeing the Superbowl, arguably the most important gig they had to-date to show off Arnel, many feel it was sub-par at best. Arnel had not re-anglicized his pronunciations due to his vacation back home, the same too-long notes as Chile, the spasmodic stage presence... ugh. Add eye rolling to the list now... and I'm thinking ...

they dumped Jeff for this??? WTF? Two months back home and it's the same garbage as Chile?

Does he have a good voice? Yes. Does he have the right voice? In my opinion, no. There's still struggling going on in hitting some key notes, not to mention the blasted holding onto notes too long. Does he not read music? 1/2 note, 1/4 note, whole note etc. And blaming his lack of preparation on being sick is no longer ok. Is he or is he not a professional? If you are a lead singer of a major Rock band like Journey, you have to be. So no bloody excuses. Does Neal come up with excuses? No. He plays. Same with the rest of the guys.. they suit up and show up and perform. So if Arnel isn't taking care of his instrument while on vacation, it affects the band. Neal wouldn't leave his guitar out in the rain, ya know?

I had the same issues back with the Chile introduction of Arnel, so after all this time, I see no improvement. And I can't tell you how disappointing that is. I don't just want someone that can hit most of the notes ... not for this band.

Journey doesn't get my money anymore. and it breaks my heart.

Journey did a great show in Santiago after his performance in viña del mar (the tv show), and for what i read and told very good other shows in others part of the world too...is all i have to say about it..the other part of your post i don't agree in all, specially in the part that arnel don't have the right voice for Journey..but well is your opinion and your choice too.

[StoneCold]

i've met rick, he's the most!!

It was really special meeting You, Dean and Wyatt, finally. You're such a nice lady and great mother. Wyatt is the happiest little boy around and definitely gets his looks from his momma. And Deano, what a blast he was. Wish I could have spent more time with all of you.

Lula is a ray of light in a dark room.

Dude, is that supposed to be a compliment?

Oh, and Rick is the most.

It's a word association game. Didn't Rick PM you?

Ok, let me try.

Rick is the MOST .... fun I can stand.

whatever the hell that means

[StevePerryHair]

One more thing before I get banned....ARNEL EATS DOGS.

I've actually eaten dog myself. A little bit tough, like goat meat. Not really worth the price.

No dog but I've eaten Frog ... legs. Yummy.

Rabbit was good too.

I ate rabbit for about four months, thinking it was chicken. I'm not the brightest bulb I guess.

I'm pretty sure that I was tricked as a child with that very same thing

What gave it away? Boiling pot on the stove?

Is your name Ellen?

[Don]

One more thing before I get banned....ARNEL EATS DOGS.

I've actually eaten dog myself. A little bit tough, like goat meat. Not really worth the price.

No dog but I've eaten Frog ... legs. Yummy.

Rabbit was good too.

I ate rabbit for about four months, thinking it was chicken. I'm not the brightest bulb I guess.

was that before you got VD?

Before I found out that the earwax on the finger trick doesn't really work? Yes.

[Playitloudforme]

The difference between JSS and Arnel is, JSS was actually bringing back the people who said "I won't EVER go see Journey without Perry", and he ROCKED that fuckin' stage ANYWHERE they played. Arnel...the guy is NOT a frontman, nor does he have the chops to pull off that catalog. Again...good voice, but not for Journey. They need someone to annunciate the words.

and I agree. I was one that was not impressed by Augeri, blown away by JSS, disheartened (again) by his dismissal, and then even more so by their choice of JSS's replacement. After seeing the Superbowl, arguably the most important gig they had to-date to show off Arnel, many feel it was sub-par at best. Arnel had not re-anglicized his pronunciations due to his vacation back home, the same too-long notes as Chile, the spasmodic stage presence... ugh. Add eye rolling to the list now... and I'm thinking ...

they dumped Jeff for this??? WTF? Two months back home and it's the same garbage as Chile?

Does he have a good voice? Yes. Does he have the right voice? In my opinion, no. There's still struggling going on in hitting some key notes, not to mention the blasted holding onto notes too long. Does he not read music? 1/2 note, 1/4 note, whole note etc. And blaming his lack of preparation on being sick is no longer ok. Is he or is he not a professional? If you are a lead singer of a major Rock band like Journey, you have to be. So no bloody excuses. Does Neal come up with excuses? No. He plays. Same with the rest of the guys.. they suit up and show up and perform. So if Arnel isn't taking care of his instrument while on vacation, it affects the band. Neal wouldn't leave his guitar out in the rain, ya know?

I had the same issues back with the Chile introduction of Arnel, so after all this time, I see no improvement. And I can't tell you how disappointing that is. I don't just want someone that can hit most of the notes ... not for this band.

Journey doesn't get my money anymore. and it breaks my heart.

Journey did a great show in Santiago after his performance in viña del mar (the tv show), and for what i read and told very good other shows in others part of the world too...is all i have to say about it..the other part of your post i don't agree in all, specially in the part that arnel don't have the right voice for Journey..but well is your opinion and your choice too.

and I appreciate that. My biggest issue isn't his notes, but the diction. I find his diction, lack of pronunciation, just too distracting, and that's why I don't feel he is right for the job. The other issues, while important, wouldn't be deal breakers for me, but the diction is. I had a lot of music training when I was young. A lot. Pronouncing all the words correctly so that they can be understood was a big issue for me, as well as everyone else I worked with. Maybe that's why it's such a big deal for me. But then again, I do a lot of stagework now, and if I don't pronounce my words perfectly, the guy in the back row has no clue what I'm saying. So yeah... there ya go.

[Blueskies]

One more thing before I get banned....ARNEL EATS DOGS.

Awww crap...come on Liam...youre a better person then that and you just lost all credibilty in your positions. That comment is just said to entice animosity. So what if dogs have been consumed in the culture? This comment just comes off as racist even if you don't mean it that way. It's also unfair to attack Arnel due to things the band members have done in the past. He's not to blame. Or just because you prefer someone else. If you don't like his singing then fine..thats your opinion and he can be held accountable for his performances....but don't attack him for who he is. Hey..he took an opportunity that was brought to him...he didn't do anything to anyone to get it. If you were in his shoes and Neal had called you up and given you the opportunity of a lifetime you would have taken it to. I can see where you are coming from with what you are saying in regards to other things but you have no basis for attacking Arnel as a person or his culture. Thats just not cool.

[treetopovskaya]

seriously. some people need to get lives already & do some growing up.

move on with your lives...

btw... the jokes still aren't funny.

[StoneCold]

One more thing before I get banned....ARNEL EATS DOGS.

I've actually eaten dog myself. A little bit tough, like goat meat. Not really worth the price.

Are we supposed to know what goat tastes like too

I've eaten goat ... in Jamaica ... I thought it tasted pretty baaaaaaad.

From the desk of Michael Scott:

Neish

[artist4perry]

Carla, I am sorry, I was under the impression you were from the Philipeans. I owe you an appology.

As for what I said, I don't know if it was meant to be racist or not. But it is stereotypical, and was not meant to be kind.

[stevew2]

One more thing before I get banned....ARNEL EATS DOGS.

I've actually eaten dog myself. A little bit tough, like goat meat. Not really worth the price.

No dog but I've eaten Frog ... legs. Yummy.

Rabbit was good too.

I ate rabbit for about four months, thinking it was chicken. I'm not the brightest bulb I guess.

was that before you got VD?

Before I found out that the earwax on the finger trick doesn't really work? Yes.

What retard told you that shit??At least you admit you are not the brightest bulb,people that think they got their shit together in one area are dunces in other areas {if ya know what i mean

[nolippin]

Slow night at the Annex.

One more thing before I get banned....ARNEL EATS DOGS.

Ha, ha, I knew that was coming.

Did I say in before the lockdown yet?

No? In b4 da lockdown!

Booyah.

A farewell pic for Liam.

[stevew2]

The difference between JSS and Arnel is, JSS was actually bringing back the people who said "I won't EVER go see Journey without Perry", and he ROCKED that fuckin' stage ANYWHERE they played. Arnel...the guy is NOT a frontman, nor does he have the chops to pull off that catalog. Again...good voice, but not for Journey. They need someone to annunciate the words.

and I agree. I was one that was not impressed by Augeri, blown away by JSS, disheartened (again) by his dismissal, and then even more so by their choice of JSS's replacement. After seeing the Superbowl, arguably the most important gig they had to-date to show off Arnel, many feel it was sub-par at best. Arnel had not re-anglicized his pronunciations due to his vacation back home, the same too-long notes as Chile, the spasmodic stage presence... ugh. Add eye rolling to the list now... and I'm thinking ...

they dumped Jeff for this??? WTF? Two months back home and it's the same garbage as Chile?

Does he have a good voice? Yes. Does he have the right voice? In my opinion, no. There's still struggling going on in hitting some key notes, not to mention the blasted holding onto notes too long. Does he not read music? 1/2 note, 1/4 note, whole note etc. And blaming his lack of preparation on being sick is no longer ok. Is he or is he not a professional? If you are a lead singer of a major Rock band like Journey, you have to be. So no bloody excuses. Does Neal come up with excuses? No. He plays. Same with the rest of the guys.. they suit up and show up and perform. So if Arnel isn't taking care of his instrument while on vacation, it affects the band. Neal wouldn't leave his guitar out in the rain, ya know?

I had the same issues back with the Chile introduction of Arnel, so after all this time, I see no improvement. And I can't tell you how disappointing that is. I don't just want someone that can hit most of the notes ... not for this band.

Journey doesn't get my money anymore. and it breaks my heart.

Journey did a great show in Santiago after his performance in viña del mar (the tv show), and for what i read and told very good other shows in others part of the world too...is all i have to say about it..the other part of your post i don't agree in all, specially in the part that arnel don't have the right voice for Journey..but well is your opinion and your choice too.

You still are a stoned cold fox,and a sweet girl

[Jana]

I must inquire...how is that RACIST, again??? I've had this argument with I don't know HOW many people over the past year. IT'S NOT RACISM, IT'S A FACT THAT THE FILIPINO CULTURE EAT DOGS, YOU FUCKING MORONS.

You're really a first class asshole.

[Michigan Girl]

One more thing before I get banned....ARNEL EATS DOGS.

I've actually eaten dog myself. A little bit tough, like goat meat. Not really worth the price.

Are we supposed to know what goat tastes like too

I've eaten goat ... in Jamaica ... I thought it tasted pretty baaaaaaad.

I'm LMAO at this.....

Cochon de lait for me and it was good !!!

[stevew2]

The difference between JSS and Arnel is, JSS was actually bringing back the people who said "I won't EVER go see Journey without Perry", and he ROCKED that fuckin' stage ANYWHERE they played. Arnel...the guy is NOT a frontman, nor does he have the chops to pull off that catalog. Again...good voice, but not for Journey. They need someone to annunciate the words.

and I agree. I was one that was not impressed by Augeri, blown away by JSS, disheartened (again) by his dismissal, and then even more so by their choice of JSS's replacement. After seeing the Superbowl, arguably the most important gig they had to-date to show off Arnel, many feel it was sub-par at best. Arnel had not re-anglicized his pronunciations due to his vacation back home, the same too-long notes as Chile, the spasmodic stage presence... ugh. Add eye rolling to the list now... and I'm thinking ...

they dumped Jeff for this??? WTF? Two months back home and it's the same garbage as Chile?

Does he have a good voice? Yes. Does he have the right voice? In my opinion, no. There's still struggling going on in hitting some key notes, not to mention the blasted holding onto notes too long. Does he not read music? 1/2 note, 1/4 note, whole note etc. And blaming his lack of preparation on being sick is no longer ok. Is he or is he not a professional? If you are a lead singer of a major Rock band like Journey, you have to be. So no bloody excuses. Does Neal come up with excuses? No. He plays. Same with the rest of the guys.. they suit up and show up and perform. So if Arnel isn't taking care of his instrument while on vacation, it affects the band. Neal wouldn't leave his guitar out in the rain, ya know?

I had the same issues back with the Chile introduction of Arnel, so after all this time, I see no improvement. And I can't tell you how disappointing that is. I don't just want someone that can hit most of the notes ... not for this band.

Journey doesn't get my money anymore. and it breaks my heart.

Journey did a great show in Santiago after his performance in viña del mar (the tv show), and for what i read and told very good other shows in others part of the world too...is all i have to say about it..the other part of your post i don't agree in all, specially in the part that arnel don't have the right voice for Journey..but well is your opinion and your choice too.

and I appreciate that. My biggest issue isn't his notes, but the diction. I find his diction, lack of pronunciation, just too distracting, and that's why I don't feel he is right for the job. The other issues, while important, wouldn't be deal breakers for me, but the diction is. I had a lot of music training when I was young. A lot. Pronouncing all the words correctly so that they can be understood was a big issue for me, as well as everyone else I worked with. Maybe that's why it's such a big deal for me. But then again, I do a lot of stagework now, and if I don't pronounce my words perfectly, the guy in the back row has no clue what I'm saying. So yeah... there ya go.

When I saw Arnel last summer, i didnt notice the "dictation" i noticed it at the pre superbowl game though. They might have to lock him up with Friga, to keep his accent awayalthough he might start to pronunce his ss different

[Carla777]

Carla, I am sorry, I was under the impression you were from the Philipeans. I owe you an appology.

As for what I said, I don't know if it was meant to be racist or not. But it is stereotypical, and was not meant to be kind.

You are too classy Ginger, don't own me anything, no hay ningùn problema

[artist4perry]

Carla, I am sorry, I was under the impression you were from the Philipeans. I owe you an appology.

As for what I said, I don't know if it was meant to be racist or not. But it is stereotypical, and was not meant to be kind.

You are too classy Ginger, don't own me anything, no hay ningùn problema

Your such a sweet person. We are blessed to have friends like you here.

[stevew2]

Carla, I am sorry, I was under the impression you were from the Philipeans. I owe you an appology.

As for what I said, I don't know if it was meant to be racist or not. But it is stereotypical, and was not meant to be kind.

You are too classy Ginger, don't own me anything, no hay ningùn problema

What is a ningun?

[Rick]

I must inquire...how is that RACIST, again??? I've had this argument with I don't know HOW many people over the past year. IT'S NOT RACISM, IT'S A FACT THAT THE FILIPINO CULTURE EAT DOGS, YOU FUCKING MORONS.

SOME, not the entire culture. You have no proof that he's ever, so saying it as fact, not only makes you look like a moron, which it does, but it debases your whole argument.

[artist4perry]

Carla, I am sorry, I was under the impression you were from the Philipeans. I owe you an appology.

As for what I said, I don't know if it was meant to be racist or not. But it is stereotypical, and was not meant to be kind.

You are too classy Ginger, don't own me anything, no hay ningùn problema

What is a ningun?

A southern ninja.

[Carla777]

You still are a stoned cold fox,and a sweet girl

you mean i'm under drugs effects? hahaha Lol..muchas gracias stevecito..welcome back!