How Rare is Perry's Vocal Classification of Tenor Altino?

[SusieP]

I'm an Alto and I cannot hit the notes Perry did. NOr could I when I was younger.

Therefore he must have a higher range than Alto.

[tammy]

What I want to know is if SP could break a glass with his voice?

Here's how: http://www.physics.ucla.edu/demoweb/dem ... sound.html

[Don]

What I want to know is if SP could break a glass with his voice?

Myth Busters did this. They got rock singer Jamie Vendera to break the glass on camera, unassisted, which they claim is the first documented video evidence of this ever happening. He in turn gave some quick lessons to Adam, one of the hosts and after his first attempt he was able to do it too.
So SP should be able to do it also I would think, even at this stage of his life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4jdGf3RzCs

[tammy]

What I want to know is if SP could break a glass with his voice?

Myth Busters did this. They got rock singer Jamie Vendera to break the glass on camera, unassisted, which they claim is the first documented video evidence of this ever happening. He in turn gave some quick lessons to Adam, one of the hosts and after his first attempt he was able to do it too.
So SP should be able to do it also I would think, even at this stage of his life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4jdGf3RzCs

Interesting. I thought the tone or whatever had to be much higher. So, it can't be done unless the person holds the glass up to the mouth?

[Don]

What I want to know is if SP could break a glass with his voice?

Myth Busters did this. They got rock singer Jamie Vendera to break the glass on camera, unassisted, which they claim is the first documented video evidence of this ever happening. He in turn gave some quick lessons to Adam, one of the hosts and after his first attempt he was able to do it too.
So SP should be able to do it also I would think, even at this stage of his life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4jdGf3RzCs

Interesting. I thought the tone or whatever had to be much higher. So, it can't be done unless the person holds the glass up to the mouth?

With sound, I would think the further away you get the more it disperses or we would all have bleeding eardrums when ever we were near a big Jet engine or some other loud noise producing machinery.

[tammy]

They should have had the singer hold it a little away from the mouth to see if it would happen - or I guess the vibration wouldn't really be strong enough. Physics is so interesting...the only thing I remember from college class was that troops had to break formation over bridges otherwise their marching frequency would collapse the bridge.

I just found something about sound...is this true? - calling all under age 20 posters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWICnMbT ... re=related Obviously, I can't hear it...and, I've got tinnitus (another old age crap thing that happens).

[BobbyinTN]

WOW! And I was just happy being a tenor.

By the way, Perry uses falsetto. Someone posted some out front vocals by him recently and you can clearly hear when he goes up into his falsetto.

Something To Hide is one example of Perry's falsetto.

It's okay, he's still one of the most amazing vocalists that ever lived, but he is still male. LOL

[Ehwmatt]

They should have had the singer hold it a little away from the mouth to see if it would happen - or I guess the vibration wouldn't really be strong enough. Physics is so interesting...the only thing I remember from college class was that troops had to break formation over bridges otherwise their marching frequency would collapse the bridge.

I just found something about sound...is this true? - calling all under age 20 posters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWICnMbT ... re=related Obviously, I can't hear it...and, I've got tinnitus (another old age crap thing that happens).

I can't hear that video and my hearing always tests great... I'm 22. Fuck, I'm aging already!

[Rick]

They should have had the singer hold it a little away from the mouth to see if it would happen - or I guess the vibration wouldn't really be strong enough. Physics is so interesting...the only thing I remember from college class was that troops had to break formation over bridges otherwise their marching frequency would collapse the bridge.

I just found something about sound...is this true? - calling all under age 20 posters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWICnMbT ... re=related Obviously, I can't hear it...and, I've got tinnitus (another old age crap thing that happens).

I can't hear that video and my hearing always tests great... I'm 22. Fuck, I'm aging already!

All I hear is something like street noise and people in the background.

[Ehwmatt]

They should have had the singer hold it a little away from the mouth to see if it would happen - or I guess the vibration wouldn't really be strong enough. Physics is so interesting...the only thing I remember from college class was that troops had to break formation over bridges otherwise their marching frequency would collapse the bridge.

I just found something about sound...is this true? - calling all under age 20 posters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWICnMbT ... re=related Obviously, I can't hear it...and, I've got tinnitus (another old age crap thing that happens).

I can't hear that video and my hearing always tests great... I'm 22. Fuck, I'm aging already!

All I hear is something like street noise and people in the background.

Same... and some kind of clang halfway through

[Rick]

They should have had the singer hold it a little away from the mouth to see if it would happen - or I guess the vibration wouldn't really be strong enough. Physics is so interesting...the only thing I remember from college class was that troops had to break formation over bridges otherwise their marching frequency would collapse the bridge.

I just found something about sound...is this true? - calling all under age 20 posters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWICnMbT ... re=related Obviously, I can't hear it...and, I've got tinnitus (another old age crap thing that happens).

I can't hear that video and my hearing always tests great... I'm 22. Fuck, I'm aging already!

All I hear is something like street noise and people in the background.

Same... and some kind of clang halfway through

I guess we're screwed.

[Gideon]

Digitaldreamdoor is a site I lurk on and it's the general consensus there that Steve Perry, under live conditions, was the greatest rock singer of all time. He's ranked in either the top five or top ten on everything else, depending on the various lists. He's also rated nigh-peerlessly for his control. Range-wise, he's good, but far from the best. It's not like he was singing the "Can't Stop" and RoR husky notes when he was in his glass breaking '70s stage. Wear and tear ensued and Perry simply adapted. Though he could still hit some pretty damn good notes even in the late stage of his career, I'm sure.

[Michigan Girl]

Digitaldreamdoor is a site I lurk on and it's the general consensus there that Steve Perry, under live conditions, was the greatest rock singer of all time. He's ranked in either the top five or top ten on everything else, depending on the various lists. He's also rated nigh-peerlessly for his control. Range-wise, he's good, but far from the best. It's not like he was singing the "Can't Stop" and RoR husky notes when he was in his glass breaking '70s stage. Wear and tear ensued and Perry simply adapted. Though he could still hit some pretty damn good notes even in the late stage of his career, I'm sure.

This is a true statement!!!

Oh and I would guess....Very Rare!!

[Gideon]

Digitaldreamdoor is a site I lurk on and it's the general consensus there that Steve Perry, under live conditions, was the greatest rock singer of all time. He's ranked in either the top five or top ten on everything else, depending on the various lists. He's also rated nigh-peerlessly for his control. Range-wise, he's good, but far from the best. It's not like he was singing the "Can't Stop" and RoR husky notes when he was in his glass breaking '70s stage. Wear and tear ensued and Perry simply adapted. Though he could still hit some pretty damn good notes even in the late stage of his career, I'm sure.

This is a true statement!!!

Oh and I would guess....Very Rare!!

True? Not really, since there is no objective way to conclude as much. Even that is up for debate around there. On that list, the Houston "Mother, Father" is ranked extremely high relative to other live performers by various vocalists. But, truthfully? It doesn't impress me. He sounds whiney on it and the theatrics are completely distracting. Deen impresses my father and I more on MF than Perry (live).

Now "Captured"? Nearly flawless in my opinion. A phenomenal concert. I'd like to hear a great RoR-era concert, but I'm afraid that his stamina was such that many of them would be dismal.

[tammy]

They should have had the singer hold it a little away from the mouth to see if it would happen - or I guess the vibration wouldn't really be strong enough. Physics is so interesting...the only thing I remember from college class was that troops had to break formation over bridges otherwise their marching frequency would collapse the bridge.

I just found something about sound...is this true? - calling all under age 20 posters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWICnMbT ... re=related Obviously, I can't hear it...and, I've got tinnitus (another old age crap thing that happens).

I can't hear that video and my hearing always tests great... I'm 22. Fuck, I'm aging already!

LOL! Apparently, it is a mosquito type sound that teens are using as their cell phone ringtone so only they can hear it and not adults. It is also something malls use to get the teens from loitering. Here's the actual ringtone sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf9447pc ... re=related

[Rick]

They should have had the singer hold it a little away from the mouth to see if it would happen - or I guess the vibration wouldn't really be strong enough. Physics is so interesting...the only thing I remember from college class was that troops had to break formation over bridges otherwise their marching frequency would collapse the bridge.

I just found something about sound...is this true? - calling all under age 20 posters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWICnMbT ... re=related Obviously, I can't hear it...and, I've got tinnitus (another old age crap thing that happens).

I can't hear that video and my hearing always tests great... I'm 22. Fuck, I'm aging already!

LOL! Apparently, it is a mosquito type sound that teens are using as their cell phone ringtone so only they can hear it and not adults. It is also something malls use to get the teens from loitering. Here's the actual ringtone sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf9447pc ... re=related

I could hear that one easily.

[Michigan Girl]

Digitaldreamdoor is a site I lurk on and it's the general consensus there that Steve Perry, under live conditions, was the greatest rock singer of all time. He's ranked in either the top five or top ten on everything else, depending on the various lists. He's also rated nigh-peerlessly for his control. Range-wise, he's good, but far from the best. It's not like he was singing the "Can't Stop" and RoR husky notes when he was in his glass breaking '70s stage. Wear and tear ensued and Perry simply adapted. Though he could still hit some pretty damn good notes even in the late stage of his career, I'm sure.

This is a true statement!!!

Oh and I would guess....Very Rare!!

True? Not really, since there is no objective way to conclude as much. Even that is up for debate around there. On that list, the Houston "Mother, Father" is ranked extremely high relative to other live performers by various vocalists. But, truthfully? It doesn't impress me. He sounds whiney on it and the theatrics are completely distracting. Deen impresses my father and I more on MF than Perry (live).

Now "Captured"? Nearly flawless in my opinion. A phenomenal concert. I'd like to hear a great RoR-era concert, but I'm afraid that his stamina was such that many of them would be dismal.

Let me rephrase, the bolded is a true statement, in my opinion!!

[Don]

Digitaldreamdoor is a site I lurk on and it's the general consensus there that Steve Perry, under live conditions, was the greatest rock singer of all time. He's ranked in either the top five or top ten on everything else, depending on the various lists. He's also rated nigh-peerlessly for his control. Range-wise, he's good, but far from the best. It's not like he was singing the "Can't Stop" and RoR husky notes when he was in his glass breaking '70s stage. Wear and tear ensued and Perry simply adapted. Though he could still hit some pretty damn good notes even in the late stage of his career, I'm sure.

This is a true statement!!!

Oh and I would guess....Very Rare!!

True? Not really, since there is no objective way to conclude as much. Even that is up for debate around there. On that list, the Houston "Mother, Father" is ranked extremely high relative to other live performers by various vocalists. But, truthfully? It doesn't impress me. He sounds whiney on it and the theatrics are completely distracting. Deen impresses my father and I more on MF than Perry (live).

Now "Captured"? Nearly flawless in my opinion. A phenomenal concert. I'd like to hear a great RoR-era concert, but I'm afraid that his stamina was such that many of them would be dismal.

Let me rephrase, the bolded is a true statement, in my opinion!!

On Captured, I think Lights/Stay Awhile are as close to the originals as any Journey song has ever been when sung live. Just amazing, his voice is so smooth on those two songs.

[Gideon]

I think Captured's version of "Do You Recall" is thousands of times better than the studio version. I think the '70s era was the best era of Perry live, but the songs he sang were terrible in my opinion compared to what Journey would later right. Lyrically, most of the pre-Cain stuff is just cringe-worthy. I'm one of the few people who cares about what he is singing almost as much as how he sings it.

[Enigma869]

On that list, the Houston "Mother, Father" is ranked extremely high relative to other live performers by various vocalists. But, truthfully? It doesn't impress me. He sounds whiney on it and the theatrics are completely distracting. Deen impresses my father and I more on MF than Perry (live).

You need to dig the shit out of your ears, young, pre-pubescent teen! While Deen does an okay job, he's not remotely close to Perry on "Mother/Father" and would be the first to admit it. That song is nothing without Perry's vocals. I challenge you to find one single performance of Deen singing "Mother/Father" and find one other person (aside from your deluded self) who thinks Deen pulls that song off better than Perry did! I think because Perry has been retired longer than you've been alive, you'll simply NEVER have an appreciation or understanding of his immense talent, because you simply never witnessed it. Phelps wants his bong back!

[Rick]

On that list, the Houston "Mother, Father" is ranked extremely high relative to other live performers by various vocalists. But, truthfully? It doesn't impress me. He sounds whiney on it and the theatrics are completely distracting. Deen impresses my father and I more on MF than Perry (live).

You need to dig the shit out of your ears, young, pre-pubescent teen! While Deen does an okay job, he's not remotely close to Perry on "Mother/Father" and would be the first to admit it. That song is nothing without Perry's vocals. I challenge you to find one single performance of Deen singing "Mother/Father" and find one other person (aside from your deluded self) who thinks Deen pulls that song off better than Perry did! I think because Perry has been retired longer than you've been alive, you'll simply NEVER have an appreciation or understanding of his immense talent, because you simply never witnessed it. Phelps wants his bong back!

[Shadowsong]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countertenor

Not sure where Alto fit in. I have heard mezzo sopranos & I really like the richer round tone & feel that is my range.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezzo-soprano

I was told I could sing 1st soprano in college chorus but was placed as 2nd soprano because I didn't know how to sight sing.
I really think I never was a true 1st soprano as my voice always resonated a bit lower than the supersonic high notes of a good 1st soprano.
20 years later my voice has slide down to a lower register which I am happy with.

I can almost keep up with Sarah Brightman to a hi C 6 2 octaves above middle C.
Her voice is definitely higher than mine with her very clean light high notes. I maybe can do 3 octaves...
darn G3 to C6 which is the range of a mezzo soprano.
I can get the notes in the highest range but I don't really sing powerfully in that high range...she is a better singer. She's one of the best along with

Dame Kiri Janette Te Kanawa has a warm rich full velvety soprano...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkcBy-fNXUY

She began her singing career as a mezzo-soprano, but later developed into a soprano.[3] Her voice is that of a versatile full lyric soprano supported by a technique which has allowed Te Kanawa to sing a variety of music
My voice is more like hers. I really love her voice over Sarah Brightman

So even though I can sing opera I too have trouble trying to sing the Steve Perry high notes by not using my soprano voice.
Steve Perry sings them & they still have great power & vibrato.

I agree \


Steve Perry's voice is One in a Million!

[Shadowsong]

I'm an Alto and I cannot hit the notes Perry did. NOr could I when I was younger.

Therefore he must have a higher range than Alto.

Wow, never heard your voice
I love it!!!

Love Cry me a river...

I love your voice
Alto is great
I used to think higher was better
but truth is it is not
you just have to make the best of the range you have...

Love the sultry velvet notes!
Now if I can only find my own.

[Gideon]

On that list, the Houston "Mother, Father" is ranked extremely high relative to other live performers by various vocalists. But, truthfully? It doesn't impress me. He sounds whiney on it and the theatrics are completely distracting. Deen impresses my father and I more on MF than Perry (live).

You need to dig the shit out of your ears, young, pre-pubescent teen! While Deen does an okay job, he's not remotely close to Perry on "Mother/Father" and would be the first to admit it. That song is nothing without Perry's vocals. I challenge you to find one single performance of Deen singing "Mother/Father" and find one other person (aside from your deluded self) who thinks Deen pulls that song off better than Perry did! I think because Perry has been retired longer than you've been alive, you'll simply NEVER have an appreciation or understanding of his immense talent, because you simply never witnessed it. Phelps wants his bong back!

The prodigal troll returns. Seriously, tone it down; I felt the froth from your mouth hit me across the internet. I think we've found the reason Perry doesn't sing anymore: your head is crammed so far up his ass that your chin is squeezing his vocal cords.

Edit: Removed "can't" for "doesn't." I'd rather not get jumped this week.

Welcome to the real world, Enigma. People have different opinions and, particularly in this case, yours isn't any more valid than mine. Perhaps when you reel in your easily excited temper and get a handle on your probable malignant narcissism, you'll come to understand that. If not, don't waste my time further.

[Michigan Girl]

On that list, the Houston "Mother, Father" is ranked extremely high relative to other live performers by various vocalists. But, truthfully? It doesn't impress me. He sounds whiney on it and the theatrics are completely distracting. Deen impresses my father and I more on MF than Perry (live).

You need to dig the shit out of your ears, young, pre-pubescent teen! While Deen does an okay job, he's not remotely close to Perry on "Mother/Father" and would be the first to admit it. That song is nothing without Perry's vocals. I challenge you to find one single performance of Deen singing "Mother/Father" and find one other person (aside from your deluded self) who thinks Deen pulls that song off better than Perry did! I think because Perry has been retired longer than you've been alive, you'll simply NEVER have an appreciation or understanding of his immense talent, because you simply never witnessed it. Phelps wants his bong back!

The prodigal troll returns. Seriously, tone it down; I felt the froth from your mouth hit me across the internet. I think we've found the reason Perry doesn't sing anymore: your head is crammed so far up his ass that your chin is squeezing his vocal cords.

Edit: Removed "can't" for "doesn't." I'd rather not get jumped this week.

Welcome to the real world, Enigma. People have different opinions and, particularly in this case, yours isn't any more valid than mine. Perhaps when you reel in your easily excited temper and get a handle on your probable malignant narcissism, you'll come to understand that. If not, don't waste my time further.

I'm LMAO....SHOCK !!! My opinion is that of JFB's, SHOCK again!!!
I just had to comment on the bolded....you made me visualize it, good job!!!!
I love it when John does that!!!

[Gideon]

On that list, the Houston "Mother, Father" is ranked extremely high relative to other live performers by various vocalists. But, truthfully? It doesn't impress me. He sounds whiney on it and the theatrics are completely distracting. Deen impresses my father and I more on MF than Perry (live).

You need to dig the shit out of your ears, young, pre-pubescent teen! While Deen does an okay job, he's not remotely close to Perry on "Mother/Father" and would be the first to admit it. That song is nothing without Perry's vocals. I challenge you to find one single performance of Deen singing "Mother/Father" and find one other person (aside from your deluded self) who thinks Deen pulls that song off better than Perry did! I think because Perry has been retired longer than you've been alive, you'll simply NEVER have an appreciation or understanding of his immense talent, because you simply never witnessed it. Phelps wants his bong back!

The prodigal troll returns. Seriously, tone it down; I felt the froth from your mouth hit me across the internet. I think we've found the reason Perry doesn't sing anymore: your head is crammed so far up his ass that your chin is squeezing his vocal cords.

Edit: Removed "can't" for "doesn't." I'd rather not get jumped this week.

Welcome to the real world, Enigma. People have different opinions and, particularly in this case, yours isn't any more valid than mine. Perhaps when you reel in your easily excited temper and get a handle on your probable malignant narcissism, you'll come to understand that. If not, don't waste my time further.

I'm LMAO....SHOCK !!! My opinion is that of JFB's, SHOCK again!!!
I just had to comment on the bolded....you made me visualize it, good job!!!!
I love it when John does that!!!

I don't.

I find it disturbing when middle aged men come out of the woodwork to harrass people a fourth their age. This is the umpteenth time he's said something along these lines, and it's the very definition of trolling.

One wonders how you jumped my shit but praise him for his...

[Michigan Girl]

On that list, the Houston "Mother, Father" is ranked extremely high relative to other live performers by various vocalists. But, truthfully? It doesn't impress me. He sounds whiney on it and the theatrics are completely distracting. Deen impresses my father and I more on MF than Perry (live).

You need to dig the shit out of your ears, young, pre-pubescent teen! While Deen does an okay job, he's not remotely close to Perry on "Mother/Father" and would be the first to admit it. That song is nothing without Perry's vocals. I challenge you to find one single performance of Deen singing "Mother/Father" and find one other person (aside from your deluded self) who thinks Deen pulls that song off better than Perry did! I think because Perry has been retired longer than you've been alive, you'll simply NEVER have an appreciation or understanding of his immense talent, because you simply never witnessed it. Phelps wants his bong back!

The prodigal troll returns. Seriously, tone it down; I felt the froth from your mouth hit me across the internet. I think we've found the reason Perry doesn't sing anymore: your head is crammed so far up his ass that your chin is squeezing his vocal cords.

Edit: Removed "can't" for "doesn't." I'd rather not get jumped this week.

Welcome to the real world, Enigma. People have different opinions and, particularly in this case, yours isn't any more valid than mine. Perhaps when you reel in your easily excited temper and get a handle on your probable malignant narcissism, you'll come to understand that. If not, don't waste my time further.

I'm LMAO....SHOCK !!! My opinion is that of JFB's, SHOCK again!!!
I just had to comment on the bolded....you made me visualize it, good job!!!!
I love it when John does that!!!

I don't.

I find it disturbing when middle aged men come out of the woodwork to harrass people a fourth their age. This is the umpteenth time he's said something along these lines, and it's the very definition of trolling.

One wonders how you jumped my shit but praise him for his...

You have a point, but you were disrespecting a GRANNY!!! Perhaps that makes no
difference to you, but it did to me. I have since realized it was obviously my problem and
you have not heard another word about it, no?!?! You are quite familiar with this show
and its cast of characters, have you met JFB?
Buck up, you are about to become a man!!

[Shadowsong]

Don't Mess With Granny!
for a cast iron pan to the side of the head isn;t pretty....

[Rick]

Don't Mess With Granny!
for a cast iron pan to the side of the head isn;t pretty....

Carol is THE sweetest person on this board. Outside myself, of course.

When are you going to sing again for us? That was great!

[Don]

MG getting fired up! You're getting me excited girl, slow down a bit.