What's Up Around Here?

[Don]

So, wait. You're telling me that after six pages of hip-hooray and balley-hoo, falderah and fiddle-dee-dee, wailing and gnashing of teeth, accusatory finger-pointing and conspiracy theorizing, that there's no cloak? No dagger? No skull-duggery?



What the heck is this place coming to...

(Extinguishes torch, lowers pitchfork and heads back home)

[Blueskies]

So, wait. You're telling me that after six pages of hip-hooray and balley-hoo, falderah and fiddle-dee-dee, wailing and gnashing of teeth, accusatory finger-pointing and conspiracy theorizing, that there's no cloak? No dagger? No skull-duggery?



What the heck is this place coming to...

(Extinguishes torch, lowers pitchfork and heads back home)

[Jubilee]

So, wait. You're telling me that after six pages of hip-hooray and balley-hoo, falderah and fiddle-dee-dee, wailing and gnashing of teeth, accusatory finger-pointing and conspiracy theorizing, that there's no cloak? No dagger? No skull-duggery?



What the heck is this place coming to...

(Extinguishes torch, lowers pitchfork and heads back home)

...another Christmas ruined. Thanks a lot, folks.

[Blueskies]

So, wait. You're telling me that after six pages of hip-hooray and balley-hoo, falderah and fiddle-dee-dee, wailing and gnashing of teeth, accusatory finger-pointing and conspiracy theorizing, that there's no cloak? No dagger? No skull-duggery?



What the heck is this place coming to...

(Extinguishes torch, lowers pitchfork and heads back home)

...another Christmas ruined. Thanks a lot, folks.

If it's any consolation there is still plenty of intrigue with Journey and some of the fans and other message boards.

[Don]

I've been checking out the UK Journey board that has a lot of mods from Journey's old site. You can actually give praise to JSS and Augeri on that board without setting off chants of "Hater".

http://www.journeyrock.co.uk/

Apparently those mods got the same treatment our own Sarah did, no notice at all just let go with out even a thank you.

You Augeri fans will probably dig the site as His pic seems to be in every other thread.

[finalfight]

I can't speak for everyone but I am personally too busy with work to post at the moment and frankly the longer I spend away from here the less I want to come back. My decision has nothing to do with the subject matter or information found at MR but more to do with the lies, secrecy, negativity and general nastiness of a few bad apples. In fact I have only come back on now to address this topic with what are thought to be the actual facts rather then speculation.

Rick knows full well that there has been a falling out behind the scenes between several prominent forum members and whilst I personally don't know the full story it is now commonly known amongst many other MR members that a secret forum (or VIP forum as it was dubbed by some) was active behind the scenes at MR. This information was divulged to many MR members by one of the 'VIPs' upon their recent departure from the board and was believed to have contained a handful of preferred members personally invited to discuss subject matters and information that were not made available in other areas. Discussions such as behind the scenes happenings in the Journey and Steve Perry camps as well as information about MR members especially those deemed suspicious in their motives. For whatever reason the 'VIP' area was recently closed and consequently some of the members left the board, others simply decided to have a break and one or two returned to posting on the main board after a lengthy absence.

You are talking (mostly) fair out of your ass.

Some of you lot talk endlessly about the inner workings of this forum and clandestine meetings and messages and arguments as if I don't fricking exist. Why don't people ever bring this shit to my attention rather than turn it into a Oliver Stone worthy conspiracy?

Fuck me....get a life.

There was at one time an additional board that was more for me and T-Bone to dump deleted topics and problem issues into and discuss and I added a couple of extra people into that forum that I trust for their advice. As it was needed, cause you lot do my fucking head in and I'm sick of it.

Some asshole broke my trust so it was deleted. End of conspiracy and end of story. Those very few that I confided in (for the good o my SANITY....fat lot of bloody good that did me) are all still here and all still talk tome.

So anything else you can blow it out your ass.

When you trust the likes of RockinDeano and Saint John you set yourself up for a slippery ride on the backs of snakes.

The lies are still being perpetrated even now and the spin goes on. You would have been better off staying well clear and basically not commenting but no, you were probably too worried about ' the negative affect on your livelihood' - that is the usual party-line right? It's a little too late for that given your rants on other sites such as WTF. Besides, it's nice to see your true colours on display - it's commonly known that you are spoiling for a fight most of the time - your unwarranted 'f@cks yous' and other insults are especially funny given your physical size and general appearance.

Whilst I only gave the most basic of information I could have divulged a whole lot more, including transcripts of conversations. And what's with the sharing of IP and location information? - a serious breach of trust and confidentiality not too mention data protection issues.

You made your bed and as uncomfortable as it is you now have to lie in it. Yes, that's lie and not lay.

To everyone else - don't believe the bullsh!t that you are still be fed. As Mulder probably once said 'The Truth is Out There'.

Andrew, please delete my account but not this post. I will not be visiting MR again or reading this even as a guest so any pithy remarks and comments will be wasted. Why not put a positive foot forward instead or do something for charity. You will feel much better for it.

[artist4perry]

So, wait. You're telling me that after six pages of hip-hooray and balley-hoo, falderah and fiddle-dee-dee, wailing and gnashing of teeth, accusatory finger-pointing and conspiracy theorizing, that there's no cloak? No dagger? No skull-duggery?



What the heck is this place coming to...

(Extinguishes torch, lowers pitchfork and heads back home)

Darn another rumor riot run amok thwarted.......thanks a lot Andrew, now Gunbot will be bummed till we go get the Guiness and Cadberry's...............

[Behshad]

When you trust the likes of RockinDeano and Saint John you set yourself up for a slippery ride on the backs of snakes.

The lies are still being perpetrated even now and the spin goes on. You would have been better off staying well clear and basically not commenting but no, you were probably too worried about ' the negative affect on your livelihood' - that is the usual party-line right? It's a little too late for that given your rants on other sites such as WTF. Besides, it's nice to see your true colours on display - it's commonly known that you are spoiling for a fight most of the time - your unwarranted 'f@cks yous' and other insults are especially funny given your physical size and general appearance.

Whilst I only gave the most basic of information I could have divulged a whole lot more, including transcripts of conversations. And what's with the sharing of IP and location information? - a serious breach of trust and confidentiality not too mention data protection issues.

You made your bed and as uncomfortable as it is you now have to lie in it. Yes, that's lie and not lay.

To everyone else - don't believe the bullsh!t that you are still be fed. As Mulder probably once said 'The Truth is Out There'.

Andrew, please delete my account but not this post. I will not be visiting MR again or reading this even as a guest so any pithy remarks and comments will be wasted. Why not put a positive foot forward instead or do something for charity. You will feel much better for it.

FF seriously, what is going on in your life? Youve made a complete 180 in just 2 weeks. Why feel the need to throw Dean & Dan under the bus.

You came here claiming that you have inside info. I call it bullshit. There is no falling out behind the scenes..... a few people havent posted as much as before, cause theyve been busy with other things in life, much like yourself .
Some may have reduced their posting ever since the SuperBowl fiasco. BUT its just a phase that this board goes through. You have been here long enough to know that when things are slow, people dont post as much and eventually that leads to many crappy threads ....

You claimed your knowledge about this so called VIP forum as if you were a member or you truly knew what was going on there. Which you didnt.

You also tried to connect the departure of the posters from here to the fact that there is a fallout in regards to the VIP forum and you know what is going on. which you also didnt.

The existence of ForumOne had NO relevance to slow times here at MR. It was just some speculations and in a more fun way than a conspiracy theory you were trying to suggest it is.

All your bluffs called, now youre trying to get poor Rick involved in this. Trust me he will not go that route with you .

Last but not least. Youre a total jerk for trying to attack Andrew by the comments in regards to his size and appearance. That was totally uncalled for and you know it. Youre some macho guy now? What the fuck is this, the fucking highschool cafeteria!??? Have you met Andrew? He is the most humble and the friendliest person youve ever met. This is his board and he has EVERY RIGHT to tell you, me or anyone else FUCK YOU, when his buttons are pushed. You think that your size as far as your physical appearance weighs more than his knowledge ? If you had the wisdom and intelligence to match your size, then you wouldnt even make such ridiculous statement.

Dont let the door hit your ass on your way out.

[Moon Beam]

I'm dealing with my own personal set of problems.

I'm sorry to see this Sir and I hope you get to dive head first
into the sea of no cares soon.


finalfight like when anyone else makes the choice to leave
my disappointment always follows them out.
Happiness and health to you, hope to see you in cyberspace another day.

[Ehwmatt]

When you trust the likes of RockinDeano and Saint John you set yourself up for a slippery ride on the backs of snakes.

The lies are still being perpetrated even now and the spin goes on. You would have been better off staying well clear and basically not commenting but no, you were probably too worried about ' the negative affect on your livelihood' - that is the usual party-line right? It's a little too late for that given your rants on other sites such as WTF. Besides, it's nice to see your true colours on display - it's commonly known that you are spoiling for a fight most of the time - your unwarranted 'f@cks yous' and other insults are especially funny given your physical size and general appearance.

Whilst I only gave the most basic of information I could have divulged a whole lot more, including transcripts of conversations. And what's with the sharing of IP and location information? - a serious breach of trust and confidentiality not too mention data protection issues.

You made your bed and as uncomfortable as it is you now have to lie in it. Yes, that's lie and not lay.

To everyone else - don't believe the bullsh!t that you are still be fed. As Mulder probably once said 'The Truth is Out There'.

Andrew, please delete my account but not this post. I will not be visiting MR again or reading this even as a guest so any pithy remarks and comments will be wasted. Why not put a positive foot forward instead or do something for charity. You will feel much better for it.

FF seriously, what is going on in your life? Youve made a complete 180 in just 2 weeks. Why feel the need to throw Dean & Dan under the bus.

You came here claiming that you have inside info. I call it bullshit. There is no falling out behind the scenes..... a few people havent posted as much as before, cause theyve been busy with other things in life, much like yourself .
Some may have reduced their posting ever since the SuperBowl fiasco. BUT its just a phase that this board goes through. You have been here long enough to know that when things are slow, people dont post as much and eventually that leads to many crappy threads ....

You claimed your knowledge about this so called VIP forum as if you were a member or you truly knew what was going on there. Which you didnt.

You also tried to connect the departure of the posters from here to the fact that there is a fallout in regards to the VIP forum and you know what is going on. which you also didnt.

The existence of ForumOne had NO relevance to slow times here at MR. It was just some speculations and in a more fun way than a conspiracy theory you were trying to suggest it is.

All your bluffs called, now youre trying to get poor Rick involved in this. Trust me he will not go that route with you .

Last but not least. Youre a total jerk for trying to attack Andrew by the comments in regards to his size and appearance. That was totally uncalled for and you know it. Youre some macho guy now? What the fuck is this, the fucking highschool cafeteria!??? Have you met Andrew? He is the most humble and the friendliest person youve ever met. This is his board and he has EVERY RIGHT to tell you, me or anyone else FUCK YOU, when his buttons are pushed. You think that your size as far as your physical appearance weighs more than his knowledge ? If you had the wisdom and intelligence to match your size, then you wouldnt even make such ridiculous statement.

Dont let the door hit your ass on your way out.

Well said B, well said.

[madsplash]

For the record most of the above conflicts with everything many have heard. The not -so-secret forum was only recently closed (same time everyone started leaving) and is not a rumour. Many of those named above were amongst the 'VIPs' and reportedly did not leave under the terms described. There was apparently a Mexican standoff of sorts and the place imploded.

You just surpassed Madsplash for the dickhead spouting the biggest load of complete horse shit. Get a life.

Geez, what did I do? Now normally I would say name calling like that is childish and uncalled for and deal with it appropriately, if it was said to me in the real world. But we all know that since it's said here in cyberspace and there is no way to deal with it directly, I will choose to laugh at it and realize that when you play in someone's playground, you can either play by his rules or get the hell out. I really don't do well in real life with being called names by people who don't know me, but I'm willing to change the way I react here out of respect for this forum.

And as far as horseshit, come the end of the year when/if what I've said all along has happened, I assume my so called load of horseshit will be looked upon differently? I hope it will, but if not I can take satisfaction in just knowing what I tolerated and came out smelling like a rose instead of horseshit.

[Andrew]

The lies are still being perpetrated even now and the spin goes on. You would have been better off staying well clear and basically not commenting but no, you were probably too worried about ' the negative affect on your livelihood' - that is the usual party-line right? It's a little too late for that given your rants on other sites such as WTF. Besides, it's nice to see your true colours on display - it's commonly known that you are spoiling for a fight most of the time - your unwarranted 'f@cks yous' and other insults are especially funny given your physical size and general appearance.

Wow, this is one of the funniest and at the same time, the most alarming things I have read on this forum.

My physical appearance??? I think most would say by the many photo's published and the many MANY that have met me face to face that I am very very "normal".

No such luxury of even knowing who you are though right? Another anonymous troll trying to gain traction for their own leverage. Ahhh, the glorious internet is full of them and the Journey fan base has more than its fair share.

People that know me know I'm a decent person and my reaction to you is one of someone that is simply tired of dealing with horseshit.

As for rants elsewhere....er, no...I have my own site to rant at and cannot recall any rants posted elsewhere, including WTF.

And as for deleting you....one step ahead of you. See ya!

PS. Does anyone have ANY idea what this clown means by myself "spoiling for a fight" and "transcripts of conversations"?? Holy crap....sounds like the CIA is watching. Better be careful.

[Andrew]

And as far as horseshit, come the end of the year when/if what I've said all along has happened, I assume my so called load of horseshit will be looked upon differently? I hope it will, but if not I can take satisfaction in just knowing what I tolerated and came out smelling like a rose instead of horseshit.

Sorry Splash....you were unfairly mentioned in that post of mine. Please accept my apology.

[Andrew]

T locked up this thread...

I just unlocked it in case anyone has another conspiracy they'd like to discuss

[larryfromnextdoor]

have you heard about the moon? ..... ok.... uhhhhhh.. moving on..

[G.I.Jim]

T locked up this thread...

I just unlocked it in case anyone has another conspiracy they'd like to discuss

Well since you asked...I think our government's been hiding bigfoot for years now!

[Rick]

The lies are still being perpetrated even now and the spin goes on. You would have been better off staying well clear and basically not commenting but no, you were probably too worried about ' the negative affect on your livelihood' - that is the usual party-line right? It's a little too late for that given your rants on other sites such as WTF. Besides, it's nice to see your true colours on display - it's commonly known that you are spoiling for a fight most of the time - your unwarranted 'f@cks yous' and other insults are especially funny given your physical size and general appearance.

Wow, this is one of the funniest and at the same time, the most alarming things I have read on this forum.

My physical appearance??? I think most would say by the many photo's published and the many MANY that have met me face to face that I am very very "normal".

No such luxury of even knowing who you are though right? Another anonymous troll trying to gain traction for their own leverage. Ahhh, the glorious internet is full of them and the Journey fan base has more than its fair share.

People that know me know I'm a decent person and my reaction to you is one of someone that is simply tired of dealing with horseshit.

As for rants elsewhere....er, no...I have my own site to rant at and cannot recall any rants posted elsewhere, including WTF.

And as for deleting you....one step ahead of you. See ya!

PS. Does anyone have ANY idea what this clown means by myself "spoiling for a fight" and "transcripts of conversations"?? Holy crap....sounds like the CIA is watching. Better be careful.

I don't know. He was off of here for a couple of weeks. Someone suggested he was working on an art piece or something to that effect. Not sure what got him fired up like that. I haven't seen you quite that fired up in a while either. It's been a crazy couple of days for sure

[Andrew]

I haven't seen you quite that fired up in a while either.

Yeah...I am dealing with stuff and this board was not supposed to be one of those things right now.

Every now and then I just hit a wall as far as putting up with and listening to other people's BS. People that don't know me but chose to judge because I've put myself in a position where I try and moderrate some of the many personalities that form this band's complex fanbase.
I'm truly over it right now.

I'm proud of my site and I'm proud of my reputation for doing the right thing and supporting the great artists that deliver this music to us. Unfortunately when dealing with so many people over may years and with the ratio of nutters out there, you'll always run across a few that rub you the wrong way or have a percieved grievance for whatever reason.

I won't let it bother me again. But at the same time I don't have to put up with it here either.

[Peartree12249]

I think this sums up just what's been going on around here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snqFHjpDpes

[larryfromnextdoor]

I haven't seen you quite that fired up in a while either.

Yeah...I am dealing with stuff and this board was not supposed to be one of those things right now.

Every now and then I just hit a wall as far as putting up with and listening to other people's BS. People that don't know me but chose to judge because I've put myself in a position where I try and moderrate some of the many personalities that form this b

I'm proud of my site .

andrew... your the best..... listen.... you need some chickens... chickens help you to relax.... get some chickens.. i

know what im talking about.....

[Blueskies]

T locked up this thread...

I just unlocked it in case anyone has another conspiracy they'd like to discuss

Well there's still that grassy knoll thing...

[Blueskies]

I haven't seen you quite that fired up in a while either.

Yeah...I am dealing with stuff and this board was not supposed to be one of those things right now.

Every now and then I just hit a wall as far as putting up with and listening to other people's BS. People that don't know me but chose to judge because I've put myself in a position where I try and moderrate some of the many personalities that form this b

I'm proud of my site .

andrew... your the best..... listen.... you need some chickens... chickens help you to relax.... get some chickens.. i

know what im talking about.....

[Rick]

I haven't seen you quite that fired up in a while either.

Yeah...I am dealing with stuff and this board was not supposed to be one of those things right now.

Every now and then I just hit a wall as far as putting up with and listening to other people's BS. People that don't know me but chose to judge because I've put myself in a position where I try and moderrate some of the many personalities that form this b

I'm proud of my site .

andrew... your the best..... listen.... you need some chickens... chickens help you to relax.... get some chickens.. i

know what im talking about.....

Chickens? Is that some brand of booze? Like, Chickens' single malt Scotch or something?

[Deb]

I haven't seen you quite that fired up in a while either.

Yeah...I am dealing with stuff and this board was not supposed to be one of those things right now.

Every now and then I just hit a wall as far as putting up with and listening to other people's BS. People that don't know me but chose to judge because I've put myself in a position where I try and moderrate some of the many personalities that form this band's complex fanbase.
I'm truly over it right now.

I'm proud of my site and I'm proud of my reputation for doing the right thing and supporting the great artists that deliver this music to us. Unfortunately when dealing with so many people over may years and with the ratio of nutters out there, you'll always run across a few that rub you the wrong way or have a percieved grievance for whatever reason.

I won't let it bother me again. But at the same time I don't have to put up with it here either.

And you darn well should be!

LOL I was a doubter about the rumour of Mr Big reuniting until you confirmed it. Was very happy with that confirmation, was a good thing you couldn't see through a computer screen!

[Arianddu]

I haven't seen you quite that fired up in a while either.

Yeah...I am dealing with stuff and this board was not supposed to be one of those things right now.

Every now and then I just hit a wall as far as putting up with and listening to other people's BS. People that don't know me but chose to judge because I've put myself in a position where I try and moderrate some of the many personalities that form this b

I'm proud of my site .

andrew... your the best..... listen.... you need some chickens... chickens help you to relax.... get some chickens.. i

know what im talking about.....

Chickens? Is that some brand of booze? Like, Chickens' single malt Scotch or something?

Nah, but I think I just worked out who Larry really is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob6TTU1knUM

[cyndy!]

I haven't seen you quite that fired up in a while either.

Yeah...I am dealing with stuff and this board was not supposed to be one of those things right now.

Every now and then I just hit a wall as far as putting up with and listening to other people's BS. People that don't know me but chose to judge because I've put myself in a position where I try and moderrate some of the many personalities that form this b

I'm proud of my site .

andrew... your the best..... listen.... you need some chickens... chickens help you to relax.... get some chickens.. i

know what im talking about.....

[Red13JoePa]

[ I don't have to put up with it.

Stop right there, enough said, your biz is music news not us.

[Peartree12249]

I haven't seen you quite that fired up in a while either.

Yeah...I am dealing with stuff and this board was not supposed to be one of those things right now.

Every now and then I just hit a wall as far as putting up with and listening to other people's BS. People that don't know me but chose to judge because I've put myself in a position where I try and moderrate some of the many personalities that form this b

I'm proud of my site .

andrew... your the best..... listen.... you need some chickens... chickens help you to relax.... get some chickens.. i

know what im talking about.....

Looks like Vince Neil has also learned the joy of chickens. He looks pretty relaxed don't ya think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGcdGNlKifY

[Deb]

I haven't seen you quite that fired up in a while either.

Yeah...I am dealing with stuff and this board was not supposed to be one of those things right now.

Every now and then I just hit a wall as far as putting up with and listening to other people's BS. People that don't know me but chose to judge because I've put myself in a position where I try and moderrate some of the many personalities that form this b

I'm proud of my site .

andrew... your the best..... listen.... you need some chickens... chickens help you to relax.... get some chickens.. i

know what im talking about.....

Looks like Vince Neil has also learned the joy of chickens. He looks pretty relaxed don't ya think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGcdGNlKifY

LMAO! My brother is a huge Crue fan and just met Vince a couple months ago in Vegas. I have to send him that link, hilarious!

[Rip Rokken]

I honestly think the only person that isnt posting much because of the negativity towards Arnel, is Rip.

Hey, man. Partially correct... the negativity in general is just not my thing anymore. Otherwise, I have a lot of friends here who I love. Just been very busy, too. Got back last night from the Heart 2 Heart event in Los Angeles, and am leaving for Manila in a few days. It will be the trip to end all trips. Maybe it will end all trips, who knows? LOL...

If I never return, let this image be forever burned in the skulls of every MR member for eternity, and beyond: