If you could meet

[stevew2]

I love to meet Neal Schon, because he is a living legend,i'm not sure if he is nice to fans or not but well... oh and Arnel too, because he is so kind with all the people and i admire his life story and voice.




In my dreams i will love to meet SP

Carla,

Neal is nice to the fans. Don't listen to the naysayers.

you are a pussy

[madsplash]

I'd wanna say 2 things to Neal:

1. You're the greatest guitar player ever.

2. Why the hell couldn't you have been more patient and understanding instead of trying to force someone into having major surgery before they were ready. By doing so, you ruined the path of the best rock band ever to grace a stage. Your band is still very good, but it's not close to what it was or was going to be. Nice move, jackass. And that's exactly what I'd say.

[Gideon]

I would like to meet all of them. I met Jon and Neal and they were courteous enough to take a picture with me without cajoling or issue. I haven't met Ross, Deen, or Arnel, so I'd imagine it would be tons of fun.

2. Why the hell couldn't you have been more patient and understanding instead of trying to force someone into having major surgery before they were ready. By doing so, you ruined the path of the best rock band ever to grace a stage. Your band is still very good, but it's not close to what it was or was going to be. Nice move, jackass. And that's exactly what I'd say.

Unbelievable.

[RPC13]

Met 'em all.

Neal - Easy going. Talked music and guitars with him for about 15 minutes. Very cool.
Jon - Very friendly. Approached me, asked me where I was from. Shot the shit.
Deen - You have to smile around this guy. Always laughing. He seems to love people.
Ross - Always cutting up, making faces. "Why so serious?" attitude.
Arnel - Possible one of the nicest, most humble, gentle souls I've ever met. Told me about some of the recipes he cooks back home.

[Behshad]

I'd wanna say 2 things to Neal:

1. You're the greatest guitar player ever.

2. Why the hell couldn't you have been more patient and understanding instead of trying to force someone into having major surgery before they were ready. By doing so, you ruined the path of the best rock band ever to grace a stage. Your band is still very good, but it's not close to what it was or was going to be. Nice move, jackass. And that's exactly what I'd say.

Now why would you wanna lie to him in his face?

[Journey/Survivor]

I've met all of them except Arnel. But I still voted for Neal. It would be cool to get to speak with Arnel, however. All of them have been cool on any of the occasions that I've spoken with them in the past.

[RumTumJM]

Deen. No doubt in my mind.

Being a drummer and singer (or least someone who tries both), I totally consider Deen one of my top drumming idols. I recall seeing him not long before Augeri left, and he sung a total of 4 songs in 90 minutes or so. My buddy and I kept looking at each other (every time he sung), thinking "We are not worthy!"

Plus, all I ever hear is great things about him as a cool guy. I really get a sour taste in my mouth when people act like they are all that. I have never gotten that impression of Deen, and that only intensifies my respect for him!

[madsplash]

I would like to meet all of them. I met Jon and Neal and they were courteous enough to take a picture with me without cajoling or issue. I haven't met Ross, Deen, or Arnel, so I'd imagine it would be tons of fun.

2. Why the hell couldn't you have been more patient and understanding instead of trying to force someone into having major surgery before they were ready. By doing so, you ruined the path of the best rock band ever to grace a stage. Your band is still very good, but it's not close to what it was or was going to be. Nice move, jackass. And that's exactly what I'd say.

Unbelievable.

What's unbelievable, there buddy? If you have something to say, say it. That's what I would tell Neal, right to his plastic, pulled back, unthankful that every dollar he's made since 1978 is owed to The Voice, face.

I love him as a guitarist and hate him for RUINING the continuation of Journey. That's my opinion. Deal with it.

Unbelievable. Blah, blah, blah. Explain your comment or shove it right up Uranus.

[Gideon]

I would like to meet all of them. I met Jon and Neal and they were courteous enough to take a picture with me without cajoling or issue. I haven't met Ross, Deen, or Arnel, so I'd imagine it would be tons of fun.

2. Why the hell couldn't you have been more patient and understanding instead of trying to force someone into having major surgery before they were ready. By doing so, you ruined the path of the best rock band ever to grace a stage. Your band is still very good, but it's not close to what it was or was going to be. Nice move, jackass. And that's exactly what I'd say.

Unbelievable.

What's unbelievable, there buddy? If you have something to say, say it. That's what I would tell Neal, right to his plastic, pulled back, unthankful that every dollar he's made since 1978 is owed to The Voice, face.

I love him as a guitarist and hate him for RUINING the continuation of Journey. That's my opinion. Deal with it.

Unbelievable. Blah, blah, blah. Explain your comment or shove it right up Uranus.

I have three problems with everything you just said.

First, your hostility is unbecoming. I don't know if it is because you've had a bad day or you're that wrapped up in this ordeal, but it is neither charming nor cute. For a grown man to be frayed this easily speaks of deep immaturity.

Second, Neal Schon doesn't owe Steve Perry all his money. While we can likely all agree that hiring Perry was the best decision Journey's management ever made, your claim is completely unsubstantiated. Indeed, irony of ironies, Steve Perry owes all of his money (and his entire career) to the patience and acceptance of three men: Walter "Herbie" Herbert, Neal Schon, and Gregg Rolie. Neal Schon was a musical prodigy who was the recipient of job offers from music legends like Carlos Santana and Eric Clapton in his teens; Steve Perry's only prayer before Herbie was a career that died tragically with his band's bassist. If not for those men, Perry wouldn't have had a career at all.

Third, Neal Schon didn't ruin the continuation of Journey. Soul SirkUS? Probably. But not Journey. No, if not for him, Arnel Pineda wouldn't be the new lead singer coming off a wildly successful international tour. If you refer to the TBF fiasco, you may pin the blame squarely on Steve Perry, once again. While I appreciate and agree with the sentiment that surgery is not a group decision, the fact remains that Journey waited over a year for him to make a decision. Never mind the fact that Perry helped fuck up a potentially great move in the reunion with Gregg Rolie and hiring of Kevin Chalfant, or that his ego over the years helped drive away Anysley Dunbar, Gregg Rolie, Steve Smith, and Ross Valory, or that his "fracture the stone" bitching is the very essence of hypocrisy -- indeed, the only time he cared about Journey's unity was when his involvement was in danger -- but they waited a year. The fact that he would later have the surgery is further proof that he recognized that it was the right decision, which is what Neal and company were telling him from day one.

The only mistake Neal made was listening to Perry. But, as far as mistakes go, I'm glad he made it: TBF was a fucking masterpiece.

In reality, Perry is to blame. Not that Neal Schon is a saint or that he wasn't pushy; I'd imagine he was quite insistent on the surgery from day one. But that's just speculation.

[madsplash]

I would like to meet all of them. I met Jon and Neal and they were courteous enough to take a picture with me without cajoling or issue. I haven't met Ross, Deen, or Arnel, so I'd imagine it would be tons of fun.

2. Why the hell couldn't you have been more patient and understanding instead of trying to force someone into having major surgery before they were ready. By doing so, you ruined the path of the best rock band ever to grace a stage. Your band is still very good, but it's not close to what it was or was going to be. Nice move, jackass. And that's exactly what I'd say.

Unbelievable.

What's unbelievable, there buddy? If you have something to say, say it. That's what I would tell Neal, right to his plastic, pulled back, unthankful that every dollar he's made since 1978 is owed to The Voice, face.

I love him as a guitarist and hate him for RUINING the continuation of Journey. That's my opinion. Deal with it.

Unbelievable. Blah, blah, blah. Explain your comment or shove it right up Uranus.

I have three problems with everything you just said.

First, your hostility is unbecoming. I don't know if it is because you've had a bad day or you're that wrapped up in this ordeal, but it is neither charming nor cute. For a grown man to be frayed this easily speaks of deep immaturity.

Second, Neal Schon doesn't owe Steve Perry all his money. While we can likely all agree that hiring Perry was the best decision Journey's management ever made, your claim is completely unsubstantiated. Indeed, irony of ironies, Steve Perry owes all of his money (and his entire career) to the patience and acceptance of three men: Walter "Herbie" Herbert, Neal Schon, and Gregg Rolie. Neal Schon was a musical prodigy who was the recipient of job offers from music legends like Carlos Santana and Eric Clapton in his teens; Steve Perry's only prayer before Herbie was a career that died tragically with his band's bassist. If not for those men, Perry wouldn't have had a career at all.

Third, Neal Schon didn't ruin the continuation of Journey. Soul SirkUS? Probably. But not Journey. No, if not for him, Arnel Pineda wouldn't be the new lead singer coming off a wildly successful international tour. If you refer to the TBF fiasco, you may pin the blame squarely on Steve Perry, once again. While I appreciate and agree with the sentiment that surgery is not a group decision, the fact remains that Journey waited over a year for him to make a decision. Never mind the fact that Perry helped fuck up a potentially great move in the reunion with Gregg Rolie and hiring of Kevin Chalfant, or that his ego over the years helped drive away Anysley Dunbar, Gregg Rolie, Steve Smith, and Ross Valory, or that his "fracture the stone" bitching is the very essence of hypocrisy -- indeed, the only time he cared about Journey's unity was when his involvement was in danger -- but they waited a year. The fact that he would later have the surgery is further proof that he recognized that it was the right decision, which is what Neal and company were telling him from day one.

The only mistake Neal made was listening to Perry. But, as far as mistakes go, I'm glad he made it: TBF was a fucking masterpiece.

In reality, Perry is to blame. Not that Neal Schon is a saint or that he wasn't pushy; I'd imagine he was quite insistent on the surgery from day one. But that's just speculation.

Listen, surgery is a Personal decision. A year isn't enough to wait if the person having the surgery still isn't sure. Another year wou;d have hurt? No. And Neal's "prodigy" status would have made him a very nice sideman, not the wealthy millionare he is now without the voice of SP.

And P.S. Steve Smith left Journey after TBF when he was told that they may move on without SP. His exact quote was "Journey without SP doesn't interest me".

Many fans feel that way.

[Saint John]

And P.S. Steve left Journey after TBF when he was told that they may move on without SP. His exact quote was "Journey without SP doesn't interest me". .

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the ROR boot in the ass Smith received.

[Rockindeano]

Madsplash wins this one going away.


I know this argument inside and out and although I love the passion of the Schonites, Madsplash has truth on his side.

[SherriBerry]

I would like to meet all of them. I met Jon and Neal and they were courteous enough to take a picture with me without cajoling or issue. I haven't met Ross, Deen, or Arnel, so I'd imagine it would be tons of fun.

2. Why the hell couldn't you have been more patient and understanding instead of trying to force someone into having major surgery before they were ready. By doing so, you ruined the path of the best rock band ever to grace a stage. Your band is still very good, but it's not close to what it was or was going to be. Nice move, jackass. And that's exactly what I'd say.

Unbelievable.

What's unbelievable, there buddy? If you have something to say, say it. That's what I would tell Neal, right to his plastic, pulled back, unthankful that every dollar he's made since 1978 is owed to The Voice, face.

I love him as a guitarist and hate him for RUINING the continuation of Journey. That's my opinion. Deal with it.

Unbelievable. Blah, blah, blah. Explain your comment or shove it right up Uranus.

I have three problems with everything you just said.

First, your hostility is unbecoming. I don't know if it is because you've had a bad day or you're that wrapped up in this ordeal, but it is neither charming nor cute. For a grown man to be frayed this easily speaks of deep immaturity.

Second, Neal Schon doesn't owe Steve Perry all his money. While we can likely all agree that hiring Perry was the best decision Journey's management ever made, your claim is completely unsubstantiated. Indeed, irony of ironies, Steve Perry owes all of his money (and his entire career) to the patience and acceptance of three men: Walter "Herbie" Herbert, Neal Schon, and Gregg Rolie. Neal Schon was a musical prodigy who was the recipient of job offers from music legends like Carlos Santana and Eric Clapton in his teens; Steve Perry's only prayer before Herbie was a career that died tragically with his band's bassist. If not for those men, Perry wouldn't have had a career at all.

Third, Neal Schon didn't ruin the continuation of Journey. Soul SirkUS? Probably. But not Journey. No, if not for him, Arnel Pineda wouldn't be the new lead singer coming off a wildly successful international tour. If you refer to the TBF fiasco, you may pin the blame squarely on Steve Perry, once again. While I appreciate and agree with the sentiment that surgery is not a group decision, the fact remains that Journey waited over a year for him to make a decision. Never mind the fact that Perry helped fuck up a potentially great move in the reunion with Gregg Rolie and hiring of Kevin Chalfant, or that his ego over the years helped drive away Anysley Dunbar, Gregg Rolie, Steve Smith, and Ross Valory, or that his "fracture the stone" bitching is the very essence of hypocrisy -- indeed, the only time he cared about Journey's unity was when his involvement was in danger -- but they waited a year. The fact that he would later have the surgery is further proof that he recognized that it was the right decision, which is what Neal and company were telling him from day one.

The only mistake Neal made was listening to Perry. But, as far as mistakes go, I'm glad he made it: TBF was a fucking masterpiece.

In reality, Perry is to blame. Not that Neal Schon is a saint or that he wasn't pushy; I'd imagine he was quite insistent on the surgery from day one. But that's just speculation.

Gideon, you should read the two famous interviews with Herbie Herbert - one is by Andrew and is on the site. The other is by Matt Carty called "Castles Burning". The entire band went to Herbie and wanted Aynsley fired because of stunts he was pulling on the road. They often had to leave town in the middle of the night to avoid police or angry fathers because Aynsley's groupies were barely 15 and underage - I believe the nickname Herbie mentioned was 'Pampers and Platforms'. They would find him in bars after concerts claiming to be the leader of the band and complaining how he couldn't get the band to play right, etc. Aynsley's firing cannot be blamed on Steve Perry and at that time SP was so new to the band himself, I doubt he would have had enough juice to get a longstanding member fired without the support of the other band members.

[Gideon]

And P.S. Steve left Journey after TBF when he was told that they may move on without SP. His exact quote was "Journey without SP doesn't interest me". .

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the ROR boot in the ass Smith received.

Correct.

Deano, I'm not a "Schonite." I just have enough common sense to recognize that Perry was as big of an ass as either Schon or Cain, but doesn't catch nearly enough hell for it. If you think Madsplash is right, that's fine. But simply saying so without elaborating why isn't good enough.

SherriBerry, I'll look for those interviews and I'll concede on Anysley. But the rest? Perry drove away due to his considerable ego.

[Saint John]

Madsplash wins this one going away.


I know this argument inside and out and although I love the passion of the Schonites, Madsplash has truth on his side.

Yeah...the output from the human rain delay has been vast since they moved on without him. I bet Journey is second guessing themslves daily. The fact remains that since Journey moved on without him, Steve Perry has shown that he can no longer sing, has no desire to sing, or, as I believe, there is some combination of the two. Logic mandates that the truth is far closer to being in Journey's corner than Steve Perry's. They made the right move at the time. The same one they should have made in 1988. Arguably 1984.

[Behshad]

Madsplash wins this one going away.


I know this argument inside and out and although I love the passion of the Schonites, Madsplash has truth on his side.

Yeah...the output from the human rain delay has been vast since they moved on without him. I bet Journey is second guessing themslves daily. The fact remains that since Journey moved on without him, Steve Perry has shown that he can no longer sing, has no desire to sing, or, as I believe, there is some combination of the two. Logic mandates that the truth is far closer to being in Journey's corner than Steve Perry's. They made the right move at the time. The same one they should have made in 1988. Arguably 1984.

Youre up already !???
Ive been up since 7. I hate you!

[StevePerryHair]

Madsplash wins this one going away.


I know this argument inside and out and although I love the passion of the Schonites, Madsplash has truth on his side.

Yeah...the output from the human rain delay has been vast since they moved on without him. I bet Journey is second guessing themslves daily. The fact remains that since Journey moved on without him, Steve Perry has shown that he can no longer sing, has no desire to sing, or, as I believe, there is some combination of the two. Logic mandates that the truth is far closer to being in Journey's corner than Steve Perry's. They made the right move at the time. The same one they should have made in 1988. Arguably 1984.

Youre up already !???
Ive been up since 7. I hate you!

+1 only I have been up since 5:30am

[S2M]

-2 since 8:30est

[madsplash]

Madsplash wins this one going away.


I know this argument inside and out and although I love the passion of the Schonites, Madsplash has truth on his side.

Yeah...the output from the human rain delay has been vast since they moved on without him. I bet Journey is second guessing themslves daily. The fact remains that since Journey moved on without him, Steve Perry has shown that he can no longer sing, has no desire to sing, or, as I believe, there is some combination of the two. Logic mandates that the truth is far closer to being in Journey's corner than Steve Perry's. They made the right move at the time. The same one they should have made in 1988. Arguably 1984.

Wrong. The legacy is over now, until SP returns to Journey, which he absolutely will at some point.

No one would no any of these songs that they're singing in the Phillipines right now, or on any other tour they do, without SP.

He IS Journey and everyone knows it, whether they admit it or not.

[Vladan]

I'd like to meet Jonathan Cain for sure, all of them would be cool of course, even Ross lol

[annpea]

I would like to meet all of them. I met Jon and Neal and they were courteous enough to take a picture with me without cajoling or issue. I haven't met Ross, Deen, or Arnel, so I'd imagine it would be tons of fun.

2. Why the hell couldn't you have been more patient and understanding instead of trying to force someone into having major surgery before they were ready. By doing so, you ruined the path of the best rock band ever to grace a stage. Your band is still very good, but it's not close to what it was or was going to be. Nice move, jackass. And that's exactly what I'd say.

Unbelievable.

What's unbelievable, there buddy? If you have something to say, say it. That's what I would tell Neal, right to his plastic, pulled back, unthankful that every dollar he's made since 1978 is owed to The Voice, face.

I love him as a guitarist and hate him for RUINING the continuation of Journey. That's my opinion. Deal with it.

Unbelievable. Blah, blah, blah. Explain your comment or shove it right up Uranus.

I have three problems with everything you just said.

First, your hostility is unbecoming. I don't know if it is because you've had a bad day or you're that wrapped up in this ordeal, but it is neither charming nor cute. For a grown man to be frayed this easily speaks of deep immaturity.

Second, Neal Schon doesn't owe Steve Perry all his money. While we can likely all agree that hiring Perry was the best decision Journey's management ever made, your claim is completely unsubstantiated. Indeed, irony of ironies, Steve Perry owes all of his money (and his entire career) to the patience and acceptance of three men: Walter "Herbie" Herbert, Neal Schon, and Gregg Rolie. Neal Schon was a musical prodigy who was the recipient of job offers from music legends like Carlos Santana and Eric Clapton in his teens; Steve Perry's only prayer before Herbie was a career that died tragically with his band's bassist. If not for those men, Perry wouldn't have had a career at all.

Third, Neal Schon didn't ruin the continuation of Journey. Soul SirkUS? Probably. But not Journey. No, if not for him, Arnel Pineda wouldn't be the new lead singer coming off a wildly successful international tour. If you refer to the TBF fiasco, you may pin the blame squarely on Steve Perry, once again. While I appreciate and agree with the sentiment that surgery is not a group decision, the fact remains that Journey waited over a year for him to make a decision. Never mind the fact that Perry helped fuck up a potentially great move in the reunion with Gregg Rolie and hiring of Kevin Chalfant, or that his ego over the years helped drive away Anysley Dunbar, Gregg Rolie, Steve Smith, and Ross Valory, or that his "fracture the stone" bitching is the very essence of hypocrisy -- indeed, the only time he cared about Journey's unity was when his involvement was in danger -- but they waited a year. The fact that he would later have the surgery is further proof that he recognized that it was the right decision, which is what Neal and company were telling him from day one.

The only mistake Neal made was listening to Perry. But, as far as mistakes go, I'm glad he made it: TBF was a fucking masterpiece.

In reality, Perry is to blame. Not that Neal Schon is a saint or that he wasn't pushy; I'd imagine he was quite insistent on the surgery from day one. But that's just speculation.

Here's a question;are we sure that everything we read in those interviews is the absolute truth and not just hyped up on some levels to feed a bad boys of R&R image that continues to fill the Journey express's bank account? " When they're good they're bad but when they're bad they're better"

[Gideon]

Madsplash wins this one going away.


I know this argument inside and out and although I love the passion of the Schonites, Madsplash has truth on his side.

Yeah...the output from the human rain delay has been vast since they moved on without him. I bet Journey is second guessing themslves daily. The fact remains that since Journey moved on without him, Steve Perry has shown that he can no longer sing, has no desire to sing, or, as I believe, there is some combination of the two. Logic mandates that the truth is far closer to being in Journey's corner than Steve Perry's. They made the right move at the time. The same one they should have made in 1988. Arguably 1984.

Wrong. The legacy is over now, until SP returns to Journey, which he absolutely will at some point.

No one would no any of these songs that they're singing in the Phillipines right now, or on any other tour they do, without SP.

He IS Journey and everyone knows it, whether they admit it or not.

No.

[stevew2]

I'd like to meet Jonathan Cain for sure, all of them would be cool of course, even Ross lol

No you wouldnt beleive me