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OT--American Idol

Postby epresley » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:39 am

Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby S2M » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:40 am

epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope....complete and utter waste of space.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby brywool » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:51 am

epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:20 am

brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby bluejeangirl76 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:27 am

Ehwmatt wrote:If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots


Almost makes the case for genocide, doesn't it? :roll:
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Jubilee » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:30 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots



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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby S2M » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:33 am

Jubilee wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots



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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:33 am

Jubilee wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots



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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Deb » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:37 am

Jubilee wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots



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Agreed, can't stand him. It blows my mind that the likes of Kanye is as popular as he is.....while the multi-talented JSS struggles. People's kids, I tell ya. :roll: :lol:
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Rhiannon » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:37 am

Ehwmatt wrote:We're stuck on stupid and riding waves of irrational emotion... sucks


Good Lord if that doesn't hit the nail square on the head. Generation Clueless.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby epresley » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:38 am

Deb wrote:
Jubilee wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots



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Agreed, can't stand him. It blows my mind that the likes of Kanye is as popular as he is.....while the multi-talented JSS struggles. People's kids, I tell ya. :roll: :lol:


He's not even a good rapper, for krissake!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby AlteredDNA » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:39 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
Jubilee wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots



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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby S2M » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:42 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Jubilee wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots



:shock:

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You know.....I'm having a rough time blaming the youth. They are being force-fed this garbage 24/7. Shows like this are telling kids what to like, what to vote for, what to listen to. I remember the 80s when it was British New Wave, pop, or heavy meta/Glam/Hairbands....Unless your parents were heavy into music, or you had an older sibling who let you actually hang around - you were pre-destined to get force-fed what was on the radio/MTV. I admit that today it is just 100X worse than 25-30 years ago....but you can't blame these kids for getting into what is surrounding them all day, all week, all year. Can you?
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:47 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Jubilee wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots



:shock:

I weep for the youths of this nation. :cry:


We're stuck on stupid and riding waves of irrational emotion... sucks


You know.....I'm having a rough time blaming the youth. They are being force-fed this garbage 24/7. Shows like this are telling kids what to like, what to vote for, what to listen to. I remember the 80s when it was British New Wave, pop, or heavy meta/Glam/Hairbands....Unless your parents were heavy into music, or you had an older sibling who let you actually hang around - you were pre-destined to get force-fed what was on the radio/MTV. I admit that today it is just 100X worse than 25-30 years ago....but you can't blame these kids for getting into what is surrounding them all day, all week, all year. Can you?


Sure can, any one with half a brain can go on the computer and educate themselves, discover new music etc.

The shit is objectively BAD. It's not music. Shit, even disco was performed well when it was in its hey day. You can debate the merits of different genres of music from different time periods, but I always say there's one constant with older music: Whatever it was, it was GENERALLY performed very well and had melody and instrumentation. Going into Pro Tools, Autotuning rhymed spoken vulgarities over a 2-bar MIDI loop is not music and it's not performance. Only talking about the music here because we don't need another damned political thread around here
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby brywool » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:49 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
You know.....I'm having a rough time blaming the youth. They are being force-fed this garbage 24/7. Shows like this are telling kids what to like, what to vote for, what to listen to. I remember the 80s when it was British New Wave, pop, or heavy meta/Glam/Hairbands....Unless your parents were heavy into music, or you had an older sibling who let you actually hang around - you were pre-destined to get force-fed what was on the radio/MTV. I admit that today it is just 100X worse than 25-30 years ago....but you can't blame these kids for getting into what is surrounding them all day, all week, all year. Can you?


YUP. They're being guided by EVERYTHING to 'know' what's hot and what's not. Every generation gets that and I suppose we sound like the parents in the 50s when Elvis came on the scene. I mean, it was "The Devil's Music", etc., etc.
It's pretty much each generation's goal to push things a bit further than their parents generation, but still.... Kanye West? Ugh...
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:52 am

brywool wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
You know.....I'm having a rough time blaming the youth. They are being force-fed this garbage 24/7. Shows like this are telling kids what to like, what to vote for, what to listen to. I remember the 80s when it was British New Wave, pop, or heavy meta/Glam/Hairbands....Unless your parents were heavy into music, or you had an older sibling who let you actually hang around - you were pre-destined to get force-fed what was on the radio/MTV. I admit that today it is just 100X worse than 25-30 years ago....but you can't blame these kids for getting into what is surrounding them all day, all week, all year. Can you?


YUP. They're being guided by EVERYTHING to 'know' what's hot and what's not. Every generation gets that and I suppose we sound like the parents in the 50s when Elvis came on the scene. I mean, it was "The Devil's Music", etc., etc.
It's pretty much each generation's goal to push things a bit further than their parents generation, but still.... Kanye West? Ugh...


Does anyone really think we'll be looking upon Kanye, Jay-Z, Nickelback, and Britney Spears in 2060 the same way we look at Elvis? Does anyone think we'll be looking at them at all?
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby epresley » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:52 am

brywool wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
You know.....I'm having a rough time blaming the youth. They are being force-fed this garbage 24/7. Shows like this are telling kids what to like, what to vote for, what to listen to. I remember the 80s when it was British New Wave, pop, or heavy meta/Glam/Hairbands....Unless your parents were heavy into music, or you had an older sibling who let you actually hang around - you were pre-destined to get force-fed what was on the radio/MTV. I admit that today it is just 100X worse than 25-30 years ago....but you can't blame these kids for getting into what is surrounding them all day, all week, all year. Can you?


YUP. They're being guided by EVERYTHING to 'know' what's hot and what's not. Every generation gets that and I suppose we sound like the parents in the 50s when Elvis came on the scene. I mean, it was "The Devil's Music", etc., etc.
It's pretty much each generation's goal to push things a bit further than their parents generation, but still.... Kanye West? Ugh...


My biggest beef with Kanye mostly stems from me simply thinking he is not talented, period. I don't like rap, but there are artists that I at least think are halfway talented, but Kanye? I don't get it.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:54 am

epresley wrote:
brywool wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
You know.....I'm having a rough time blaming the youth. They are being force-fed this garbage 24/7. Shows like this are telling kids what to like, what to vote for, what to listen to. I remember the 80s when it was British New Wave, pop, or heavy meta/Glam/Hairbands....Unless your parents were heavy into music, or you had an older sibling who let you actually hang around - you were pre-destined to get force-fed what was on the radio/MTV. I admit that today it is just 100X worse than 25-30 years ago....but you can't blame these kids for getting into what is surrounding them all day, all week, all year. Can you?


YUP. They're being guided by EVERYTHING to 'know' what's hot and what's not. Every generation gets that and I suppose we sound like the parents in the 50s when Elvis came on the scene. I mean, it was "The Devil's Music", etc., etc.
It's pretty much each generation's goal to push things a bit further than their parents generation, but still.... Kanye West? Ugh...


My biggest beef with Kanye mostly stems from me simply thinking he is not talented, period. I don't like rap, but there are artists that I at least think are halfway talented, but Kanye? I don't get it.


I've heard some pretty inventive and creative rap lyrics. Some of them are talented with words and catchy rhymes. But the rest of it as a whole isn't music.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby KDOUBLEU » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:55 am

AlteredDNA wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Jubilee wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots



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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby brywool » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:02 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Does anyone really think we'll be looking upon Kanye, Jay-Z, Nickelback, and Britney Spears in 2060 the same way we look at Elvis? Does anyone think we'll be looking at them at all?


Oh, I didn't mean that... I don't mean that 'he's as big as Elvis, or the Beatles, or Slim Whitman', I just meant that he's what's being put onto kids right now.

I dunno if kids will revere him the way we did with Elvis, etc. or not. I know that back in the 90s you'd have gotten beat up if you liked Vanilla Ice. Now, that song of his... people love it. Same with Disco. In the 70s, so many people hated it. Now, it's still huge in clubs.
Even Kurt Cobain and Nirvana. If anyone would've told me that thousands would've held a vigil for him and wept like he was John Lennon, I would've said "You're outta yer mind".

Every generation has their heroes. Guess Kanye's is one of this generation's heroes. In the immortal words of Charlie Brown "We're doomed".
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby brywool » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:04 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
I've heard some pretty inventive and creative rap lyrics. Some of them are talented with words and catchy rhymes. But the rest of it as a whole isn't music.


I think some of Eminem's stuff is really cool actually. But Kanye, I don't get (or git).
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby epresley » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:12 am

brywool wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Does anyone really think we'll be looking upon Kanye, Jay-Z, Nickelback, and Britney Spears in 2060 the same way we look at Elvis? Does anyone think we'll be looking at them at all?


Oh, I didn't mean that... I don't mean that 'he's as big as Elvis, or the Beatles, or Slim Whitman', I just meant that he's what's being put onto kids right now.

I dunno if kids will revere him the way we did with Elvis, etc. or not. I know that back in the 90s you'd have gotten beat up if you liked Vanilla Ice. Now, that song of his... people love it. Same with Disco. In the 70s, so many people hated it. Now, it's still huge in clubs.
Even Kurt Cobain and Nirvana. If anyone would've told me that thousands would've held a vigil for him and wept like he was John Lennon, I would've said "You're outta yer mind".

Every generation has their heroes. Guess Kanye's is one of this generation's heroes. In the immortal words of Charlie Brown "We're doomed".


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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby S2M » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:15 am

epresley wrote:
brywool wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Does anyone really think we'll be looking upon Kanye, Jay-Z, Nickelback, and Britney Spears in 2060 the same way we look at Elvis? Does anyone think we'll be looking at them at all?


Oh, I didn't mean that... I don't mean that 'he's as big as Elvis, or the Beatles, or Slim Whitman', I just meant that he's what's being put onto kids right now.

I dunno if kids will revere him the way we did with Elvis, etc. or not. I know that back in the 90s you'd have gotten beat up if you liked Vanilla Ice. Now, that song of his... people love it. Same with Disco. In the 70s, so many people hated it. Now, it's still huge in clubs.
Even Kurt Cobain and Nirvana. If anyone would've told me that thousands would've held a vigil for him and wept like he was John Lennon, I would've said "You're outta yer mind".

Every generation has their heroes. Guess Kanye's is one of this generation's heroes. In the immortal words of Charlie Brown "We're doomed".


Kanye couldn't hold Elvis' fried banana sandwich!!!!!!


Let's climb back on the Reality express here.....Elvis - great perfomer, horrible singer
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby brywool » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:19 am

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Let's climb back on the Reality express here.....Elvis - great perfomer, horrible singer


NOT true. Elvis was a great vocalist. I'm not talking 70s, heavy, incoherent Elvis. 50s and 60s Elvis was a really good vocalist. The problem with Elvis was that he was given a lot of crappy material.

Listen to some of his gospel stuff. He does some great stuff vocally. I've heard people lament his vocal prowess before and I just don't agree. Great singer.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby X factor » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:48 am

brywool wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Let's climb back on the Reality express here.....Elvis - great perfomer, horrible singer


NOT true. Elvis was a great vocalist. I'm not talking 70s, heavy, incoherent Elvis. 50s and 60s Elvis was a really good vocalist. The problem with Elvis was that he was given a lot of crappy material.

Listen to some of his gospel stuff. He does some great stuff vocally. I've heard people lament his vocal prowess before and I just don't agree. Great singer.


For real, dude! Elvis was a phenominal singer AND a great preformer.

Oh, and Kanye DOES suck, just for the record! Diddy looks like Robert Johnson up next to him.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby madsplash » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:10 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
epresley wrote:
brywool wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Does anyone really think we'll be looking upon Kanye, Jay-Z, Nickelback, and Britney Spears in 2060 the same way we look at Elvis? Does anyone think we'll be looking at them at all?


Oh, I didn't mean that... I don't mean that 'he's as big as Elvis, or the Beatles, or Slim Whitman', I just meant that he's what's being put onto kids right now.

I dunno if kids will revere him the way we did with Elvis, etc. or not. I know that back in the 90s you'd have gotten beat up if you liked Vanilla Ice. Now, that song of his... people love it. Same with Disco. In the 70s, so many people hated it. Now, it's still huge in clubs.
Even Kurt Cobain and Nirvana. If anyone would've told me that thousands would've held a vigil for him and wept like he was John Lennon, I would've said "You're outta yer mind".

Every generation has their heroes. Guess Kanye's is one of this generation's heroes. In the immortal words of Charlie Brown "We're doomed".


Kanye couldn't hold Elvis' fried banana sandwich!!!!!!


Let's climb back on the Reality express here.....Elvis - great perfomer, horrible singer


Oh boy. Elvis' spectacular voice never left him, even at the end when he was a mess, he still showed flashes of what he could do.

Listen to Elvis sing MY Way and then say he's a "horrible" singer :roll: You'll look silly.
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Postby SusieP » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:10 am

The only rap song I like is Run DMC's version of Walk This Way because Aerosmith are on it with them.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:14 am

I have three rap albums, and a couple assorted rap singles.

The Chronic by Dr. Dre is the only rap album I like... so nasty man, SO nasty.

and I DO like Kanye's "Flashing Lights." The rest of his stuff I don't have an opinion on yet.
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Postby S2M » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:20 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:I have three rap albums, and a couple assorted rap singles.

The Chronic by Dr. Dre is the only rap album I like... so nasty man, SO nasty.

and I DO like Kanye's "Flashing Lights." The rest of his stuff I don't have an opinion on yet.


Take it to the bank. My top rap albums are:

Yo! Bum Rush the Show - Public Enemy
It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - Public Enemy
The Message - Grand Master Flash & The Furious Five
Paid in Full - Eric B & Rakim
Follow The Leader - Eric B & Rakim


Can you tell I'm old? :lol:
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