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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Voyager » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:21 am

epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


He fucking sucks terribly. On top of that, he boasts to be the best singer in the world. He is completely delusional, but for some reason there are enough people who buy into it.

His performance last night on Idol was nauseating.

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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Voyager » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:29 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
You know.....I'm having a rough time blaming the youth. They are being force-fed this garbage 24/7. Shows like this are telling kids what to like, what to vote for, what to listen to. I remember the 80s when it was British New Wave, pop, or heavy meta/Glam/Hairbands....Unless your parents were heavy into music, or you had an older sibling who let you actually hang around - you were pre-destined to get force-fed what was on the radio/MTV. I admit that today it is just 100X worse than 25-30 years ago....but you can't blame these kids for getting into what is surrounding them all day, all week, all year. Can you?


YUP. They're being guided by EVERYTHING to 'know' what's hot and what's not. Every generation gets that and I suppose we sound like the parents in the 50s when Elvis came on the scene. I mean, it was "The Devil's Music", etc., etc.
It's pretty much each generation's goal to push things a bit further than their parents generation, but still.... Kanye West? Ugh...


Does anyone really think we'll be looking upon Kanye, Jay-Z, Nickelback, and Britney Spears in 2060 the same way we look at Elvis? Does anyone think we'll be looking at them at all?


Possibly Nickerback, and maybe Greenday, Three Doors Down, and a few others. Don't worry, there's enough good music out there that our kids won't have to go back and listen to this Kanye bullshit to remember their youth.

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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:43 am

Voyager wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
You know.....I'm having a rough time blaming the youth. They are being force-fed this garbage 24/7. Shows like this are telling kids what to like, what to vote for, what to listen to. I remember the 80s when it was British New Wave, pop, or heavy meta/Glam/Hairbands....Unless your parents were heavy into music, or you had an older sibling who let you actually hang around - you were pre-destined to get force-fed what was on the radio/MTV. I admit that today it is just 100X worse than 25-30 years ago....but you can't blame these kids for getting into what is surrounding them all day, all week, all year. Can you?


YUP. They're being guided by EVERYTHING to 'know' what's hot and what's not. Every generation gets that and I suppose we sound like the parents in the 50s when Elvis came on the scene. I mean, it was "The Devil's Music", etc., etc.
It's pretty much each generation's goal to push things a bit further than their parents generation, but still.... Kanye West? Ugh...


Does anyone really think we'll be looking upon Kanye, Jay-Z, Nickelback, and Britney Spears in 2060 the same way we look at Elvis? Does anyone think we'll be looking at them at all?


Possibly Nickerback, and maybe Greenday, Three Doors Down, and a few others. Don't worry, there's enough good music out there that our kids won't have to go back and listen to this Kanye bullshit to remember their youth.

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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby swataz » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:48 am

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epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


He fucking sucks terribly. On top of that, he boasts to be the best singer in the world. He is completely delusional, but for some reason there are enough people who buy into it.

His performance last night on Idol was nauseating.

:roll:


Not only does he suck, but he is as arrogant as a human being can possibly be. His "George Bush doesn't care about black people" stunt on the Katrina benefit show was appaling, and I am still scratching my head as to how the hell he survived that. Short memories or brain-dead music consuming public...?
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Postby Barb » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:00 am

"I realize that my place and position in history is that I will go down as the voice of this generation, of this decade, I will be the loudest voice."

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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby whirlwind » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:28 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Jubilee wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots



:shock:

I weep for the youths of this nation. :cry:


We're stuck on stupid and riding waves of irrational emotion... sucks


You know.....I'm having a rough time blaming the youth. They are being force-fed this garbage 24/7. Shows like this are telling kids what to like, what to vote for, what to listen to. I remember the 80s when it was British New Wave, pop, or heavy meta/Glam/Hairbands....Unless your parents were heavy into music, or you had an older sibling who let you actually hang around - you were pre-destined to get force-fed what was on the radio/MTV. I admit that today it is just 100X worse than 25-30 years ago....but you can't blame these kids for getting into what is surrounding them all day, all week, all year. Can you?




Let's hope that most of us are bringing up our kids to have a mind of their own. I think that rap is for the most part an ethnic pimple on the music scene and people will cringe someday when they look back on it's even made the scene, along with the jeans down around their knees like they have a losd of crap in their britch's. For the most part, the lyrics are depressing, senseless and more often filthy.JMHO

That performance had to have a lot of people wondering where Ryan S was coming from with his acolades.
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Postby slucero » Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:20 am

I wasn't a fan of Nickelback.... but I'm a huge fan of Mutt Lange... when I heard he'd produced the Nickelbacks new album... I got it... now I'm a Nickelback fan... went and listened to a bunch of their older stuff... realised Chad Kroeger can WRITE. May not be everyone's "cup o' tea" but he writes tunes that stick in yer head, and will unabashedly admit that's his intent.

27 Million unit sales I'd take anyday...

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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Jubilee » Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:41 am

whirlwind wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Jubilee wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots



:shock:

I weep for the youths of this nation. :cry:


We're stuck on stupid and riding waves of irrational emotion... sucks


You know.....I'm having a rough time blaming the youth. They are being force-fed this garbage 24/7. Shows like this are telling kids what to like, what to vote for, what to listen to. I remember the 80s when it was British New Wave, pop, or heavy meta/Glam/Hairbands....Unless your parents were heavy into music, or you had an older sibling who let you actually hang around - you were pre-destined to get force-fed what was on the radio/MTV. I admit that today it is just 100X worse than 25-30 years ago....but you can't blame these kids for getting into what is surrounding them all day, all week, all year. Can you?




Let's hope that most of us are bringing up our kids to have a mind of their own. I think that rap is for the most part an ethnic pimple on the music scene and people will cringe someday when they look back on it's even made the scene, along with the jeans down around their knees like they have a losd of crap in their britch's. For the most part, the lyrics are depressing, senseless and more often filthy.JMHO

That performance had to have a lot of people wondering where Ryan S was coming from with his acolades.


Rap/hip-hop has been around for over 30 yrs., hardly a pimple on the music scene, let alone an "ethnic pimple" considering its influence on the music scene over the years. That being said, that particular genre of music is more rhythm driven and relies less on melodies which is likely what most (older) listeners find disconcerting.

As for the depressing senselessness of the lyrics...don't get me started on that one. I understand the artist are speaking to a certain perspective/reality, but my beef is most of the artists are too young and inexperienced at life in general to know how to write a song/rap that tells a story, paints a picture and conveys an idea. Most of it really is nonsense. I know a lot of musicians here swear by having artists write their own songs, but, IMO songwriting is a craft unto itself - and should be left to the professionals. Everybody who sings AIN'T no songwriter..but that's just me...

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Postby slucero » Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:51 am

well that means Kanye's got 2 strikes agin' him...

1 - he can't write
2 - he can't sing

I miss the days of hip-hop, when it was fun... before it went "gangster"....

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Postby Jubilee » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:01 am

slucero wrote:well that means Kanye's got 2 strikes agin' him...

1 - he can't write
2 - he can't sing

I miss the days of hip-hop, when it was fun... before it went "gangster"....


yeah,...but other than that. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby brywool » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:13 am

Jubilee wrote:
Rap/hip-hop has been around for over 30 yrs., hardly a pimple on the music scene, let alone an "ethnic pimple" considering its influence on the music scene over the years. That being said, that particular genre of music is more rhythm driven and relies less on melodies which is likely what most (older) listeners find disconcerting.

As for the depressing senselessness of the lyrics...don't get me started on that one. I understand the artist are speaking to a certain perspective/reality, but my beef is most of the artists are too young and inexperienced at life in general to know how to write a song/rap that tells a story, paints a picture and conveys an idea. Most of it really is nonsense. I know a lot of musicians here swear by having artists write their own songs, but, IMO songwriting is a craft unto itself - and should be left to the professionals. Everybody who sings AIN'T no songwriter..but that's just me...

/rant :oops:



Good post. However, the music being rhythm driven has nothing to do with why I don't like it. I like rhythm. I also don't NOT like rap as a whole. Like Rock, there is good rap and there is bad rap. Most of the stuff I hear is negative and seems to be anti-everything. There is some really cool hip hop that I've heard, but I can't recall any names because it's not music that I follow.

What I most hate about rappers themselves is this "I'm a rich, pro gang, pro pistol, pro drug, pro ho, pro illiteracy, pro biotch-slappin' dude, and YOU, the youth of America, need to look at this as a good example of who you should be". Further, that image is being promoted as who our youth should be. The 'poopy pants', chains, sideways trucker hats, and illiterate posing are what kids are looking up to as roll models now. It's all BS and it's detrimental to young kids (my opinion). Hey, I don't want em to be little Wally Cleavers either, but I'm tired of the "I don't care about anything and I deserve everything" image that kids have today and I think a lot of it has to do with this image being fed to them.

I know, I know, I'm sounding like Friggin Jerry Falwell when his cousin started selling "Great Balls of Fire"... I know...

Rent the movie CB4 with Chris Rock. Great story behind it even if some of it was poorly executed. A rapper that's really clean and pretty wholesome can't make a living at it. So, he creates this image for he and his band. They're now ex cons from from Cell Block 4 (CB4). Now, all the sudden, they've all got gold teeth, guns, and are posing as these real baddasses. But it's just a gimmick and nobody realizes it. All the sudden, they sell millions of records.

I'm sick to death of rappers (black, white, green, I don't care)- selling this image to kids. I think that Bill Cosby was totally right when he lashed out against the rap community. Look at what's happened at some Rap Music Awards. Total violence in the theatre that celebrates the rap community's art.

I just don't like the 'hate' behind it all. Sorry, guess I'm just behind the times.

With Kanye, when he did that anti Bush thing during Katrina, that was enough for me. Whether I believe what he said or not, or whether it's true or not is not the point. The point is, there's a time and place for everything and THAT was not the time. It was the move of a spoiled punk. His record company should've dropped him.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby bluejeangirl76 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:19 am

brywool wrote:What I most hate about rappers themselves is this "I'm a rich, pro gang, pro pistol, pro drug, pro ho, pro illiteracy, pro biotch-slappin' dude, and YOU, the youth of America, need to look at this as a good example of who you should be".


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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby madsplash » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:20 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
brywool wrote:What I most hate about rappers themselves is this "I'm a rich, pro gang, pro pistol, pro drug, pro ho, pro illiteracy, pro biotch-slappin' dude, and YOU, the youth of America, need to look at this as a good example of who you should be".


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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Jubilee » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:32 am

brywool wrote:
Jubilee wrote:
Rap/hip-hop has been around for over 30 yrs., hardly a pimple on the music scene, let alone an "ethnic pimple" considering its influence on the music scene over the years. That being said, that particular genre of music is more rhythm driven and relies less on melodies which is likely what most (older) listeners find disconcerting.

As for the depressing senselessness of the lyrics...don't get me started on that one. I understand the artist are speaking to a certain perspective/reality, but my beef is most of the artists are too young and inexperienced at life in general to know how to write a song/rap that tells a story, paints a picture and conveys an idea. Most of it really is nonsense. I know a lot of musicians here swear by having artists write their own songs, but, IMO songwriting is a craft unto itself - and should be left to the professionals. Everybody who sings AIN'T no songwriter..but that's just me...

/rant :oops:



Good post. However, the music being rhythm driven has nothing to do with why I don't like it. I like rhythm. I also don't NOT like rap as a whole. Like Rock, there is good rap and there is bad rap. Most of the stuff I hear is negative and seems to be anti-everything. There is some really cool hip hop that I've heard, but I can't recall any names because it's not music that I follow.

What I most hate about rappers themselves is this "I'm a rich, pro gang, pro pistol, pro drug, pro ho, pro illiteracy, pro biotch-slappin' dude, and YOU, the youth of America, need to look at this as a good example of who you should be". Further, that image is being promoted as who our youth should be. The 'poopy pants', chains, sideways trucker hats, and illiterate posing are what kids are looking up to as roll models now. It's all BS and it's detrimental to young kids (my opinion). Hey, I don't want em to be little Wally Cleavers either, but I'm tired of the "I don't care about anything and I deserve everything" image that kids have today and I think a lot of it has to do with this image being fed to them.

I know, I know, I'm sounding like Friggin Jerry Falwell when his cousin started selling "Great Balls of Fire"... I know...

Rent the movie CB4 with Chris Rock. Great story behind it even if some of it was poorly executed. A rapper that's really clean and pretty wholesome can't make a living at it. So, he creates this image for he and his band. They're now ex cons from from Cell Block 4 (CB4). Now, all the sudden, they've all got gold teeth, guns, and are posing as these real baddasses. But it's just a gimmick and nobody realizes it. All the sudden, they sell millions of records.

I'm sick to death of rappers (black, white, green, I don't care)- selling this image to kids. I think that Bill Cosby was totally right when he lashed out against the rap community. Look at what's happened at some Rap Music Awards. Total violence in the theatre that celebrates the rap community's art.

I just don't like the 'hate' behind it all. Sorry, guess I'm just behind the times.

With Kanye, when he did that anti Bush thing during Katrina, that was enough for me. Whether I believe what he said or not, or whether it's true or not is not the point. The point is, there's a time and place for everything and THAT was not the time. It was the move of a spoiled punk. His record company should've dropped him.



Bingo. That's pretty much it in a nut shell. You can thank record companies for that. :wink: Apparently there's only room for one "clean" rapper in the music industry, and that's Will Smith. The rest have to be edgier and edgier - even if they did grow up in the suburbs and have no idea what they're talking about. Nobody wants to hear a "you're o.k., I'm o.k" rap, or at least that's what the record execs would have you believe.

And that Kanye/Katrina thing should have been a total embarracement for him - but it wasn't. I still shudder just thinking about it. Can you imagine the poo storm if his record lable had dropped him? :roll:
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby whirlwind » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:24 am

madsplash wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
brywool wrote:What I most hate about rappers themselves is this "I'm a rich, pro gang, pro pistol, pro drug, pro ho, pro illiteracy, pro biotch-slappin' dude, and YOU, the youth of America, need to look at this as a good example of who you should be".


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+3 plus they refer to their women as HO's.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby epresley » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:31 am

whirlwind wrote:
madsplash wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
brywool wrote:What I most hate about rappers themselves is this "I'm a rich, pro gang, pro pistol, pro drug, pro ho, pro illiteracy, pro biotch-slappin' dude, and YOU, the youth of America, need to look at this as a good example of who you should be".


+1


+2[/quote

+3 plus they refer to their women as HO's.


I agree and some women are not ho's. :shock: :oops:
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby annpea » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:58 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots


Almost makes the case for genocide, doesn't it? :roll:
That, was un called for not even as a joke should anything like that come out of anyones mouth but then it doesn't take much for true colors to show through. :roll: :shock:
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Don » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:10 am

annpea wrote:
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Ehwmatt wrote:If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots


Almost makes the case for genocide, doesn't it? :roll:
That, was un called for not even as a joke should anything like that come out of anyones mouth but then it doesn't take much for true colors to show through. :roll: :shock:


I'm gonna try to say it was used as a joke in this instance. Just the wrong word to use, obviously. I really can't say anything else.

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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby annpea » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:21 am

Jubilee wrote:
whirlwind wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Jubilee wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
brywool wrote:
epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.


Why the hell would you need Autotune on a rap vocal. Pathetic.

If he's the voice of a generation, I'm no part of it. Fuckin idiots



:shock:

I weep for the youths of this nation. :cry:


We're stuck on stupid and riding waves of irrational emotion... sucks


You know.....I'm having a rough time blaming the youth. They are being force-fed this garbage 24/7. Shows like this are telling kids what to like, what to vote for, what to listen to. I remember the 80s when it was British New Wave, pop, or heavy meta/Glam/Hairbands....Unless your parents were heavy into music, or you had an older sibling who let you actually hang around - you were pre-destined to get force-fed what was on the radio/MTV. I admit that today it is just 100X worse than 25-30 years ago....but you can't blame these kids for getting into what is surrounding them all day, all week, all year. Can you?




Let's hope that most of us are bringing up our kids to have a mind of their own. I think that rap is for the most part an ethnic pimple on the music scene and people will cringe someday when they look back on it's even made the scene, along with the jeans down around their knees like they have a losd of crap in their britch's. For the most part, the lyrics are depressing, senseless and more often filthy.JMHO

That performance had to have a lot of people wondering where Ryan S was coming from with his acolades.


Rap/hip-hop has been around for over 30 yrs., hardly a pimple on the music scene, let alone an "ethnic pimple" considering its influence on the music scene over the years. That being said, that particular genre of music is more rhythm driven and relies less on melodies which is likely what most (older) listeners find disconcerting.

As for the depressing senselessness of the lyrics...don't get me started on that one. I understand the artist are speaking to a certain perspective/reality, but my beef is most of the artists are too young and inexperienced at life in general to know how to write a song/rap that tells a story, paints a picture and conveys an idea. Most of it really is nonsense. I know a lot of musicians here swear by having artists write their own songs, but, IMO songwriting is a craft unto itself - and should be left to the professionals. Everybody who sings AIN'T no songwriter..but that's just me...

/rant :oops:
I, totally agree with you on this point; most, no nearly all rap music has no real value it's just a quick dollar for the artist and the record labels that create, promote and sell it; it's a waste of time and energy and a promotion of talentless individuals with no true foundation to build a lasting career on, that's why the turnover in the rap music genre is so fast, here today gone tomorrow, broke next week.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:15 am

epresley wrote:
whirlwind wrote:
madsplash wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
brywool wrote:What I most hate about rappers themselves is this "I'm a rich, pro gang, pro pistol, pro drug, pro ho, pro illiteracy, pro biotch-slappin' dude, and YOU, the youth of America, need to look at this as a good example of who you should be".


+1


+2[/quote

+3 plus they refer to their women as HO's.


I agree and some women are not ho's. :shock: :oops:

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Postby SusieP » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:18 am

I think Alison Iraheta has a really great voice.
And she's only sixteen or something, isn't she?

I have been well impressed with her so far.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby cheekymonkey » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:34 am

epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby SusieP » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:35 am

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epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ive never seen him.
I'll let you know after Ive seen him on tonights show.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby cheekymonkey » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:38 am

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epresley wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Kanye West is complete shit? I'm just asking.


Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.

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Postby SusieP » Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:39 am

Just watched Kanye West.

I see what you all mean.
I did not enjoy that at all. :shock:
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby artist4perry » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:21 am

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Jubilee wrote:
Rap/hip-hop has been around for over 30 yrs., hardly a pimple on the music scene, let alone an "ethnic pimple" considering its influence on the music scene over the years. That being said, that particular genre of music is more rhythm driven and relies less on melodies which is likely what most (older) listeners find disconcerting.

As for the depressing senselessness of the lyrics...don't get me started on that one. I understand the artist are speaking to a certain perspective/reality, but my beef is most of the artists are too young and inexperienced at life in general to know how to write a song/rap that tells a story, paints a picture and conveys an idea. Most of it really is nonsense. I know a lot of musicians here swear by having artists write their own songs, but, IMO songwriting is a craft unto itself - and should be left to the professionals. Everybody who sings AIN'T no songwriter..but that's just me...

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Good post. However, the music being rhythm driven has nothing to do with why I don't like it. I like rhythm. I also don't NOT like rap as a whole. Like Rock, there is good rap and there is bad rap. Most of the stuff I hear is negative and seems to be anti-everything. There is some really cool hip hop that I've heard, but I can't recall any names because it's not music that I follow.

What I most hate about rappers themselves is this "I'm a rich, pro gang, pro pistol, pro drug, pro ho, pro illiteracy, pro biotch-slappin' dude, and YOU, the youth of America, need to look at this as a good example of who you should be". Further, that image is being promoted as who our youth should be. The 'poopy pants', chains, sideways trucker hats, and illiterate posing are what kids are looking up to as roll models now. It's all BS and it's detrimental to young kids (my opinion). Hey, I don't want em to be little Wally Cleavers either, but I'm tired of the "I don't care about anything and I deserve everything" image that kids have today and I think a lot of it has to do with this image being fed to them.

I know, I know, I'm sounding like Friggin Jerry Falwell when his cousin started selling "Great Balls of Fire"... I know...

Rent the movie CB4 with Chris Rock. Great story behind it even if some of it was poorly executed. A rapper that's really clean and pretty wholesome can't make a living at it. So, he creates this image for he and his band. They're now ex cons from from Cell Block 4 (CB4). Now, all the sudden, they've all got gold teeth, guns, and are posing as these real baddasses. But it's just a gimmick and nobody realizes it. All the sudden, they sell millions of records.

I'm sick to death of rappers (black, white, green, I don't care)- selling this image to kids. I think that Bill Cosby was totally right when he lashed out against the rap community. Look at what's happened at some Rap Music Awards. Total violence in the theatre that celebrates the rap community's art.

I just don't like the 'hate' behind it all. Sorry, guess I'm just behind the times.

With Kanye, when he did that anti Bush thing during Katrina, that was enough for me. Whether I believe what he said or not, or whether it's true or not is not the point. The point is, there's a time and place for everything and THAT was not the time. It was the move of a spoiled punk. His record company should've dropped him.


Sorry, had to laugh royally at the poopy pants comment. I used to tell Danny that they look like a toddler with an overloaded diaper.............LOL! Cops love criminals who wear pants like that, makes them easier to catch! :wink: :lol: :lol:

P.S. I think rap is crap...............mostly the gangsta type. I think it is ruining a lot of kids.
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Re: OT--American Idol

Postby PowerChords » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:30 am

brywool wrote:
Nope. I had a similar thread a few months back. The guy says he's "the voice of this generation". Um, no you're the voice of prejudice and too much fame. Can't stand him. Also, on American Idol- to use THAT MUCH Autotune in a "live" performance was ridiculously embarrassing (yet the freakin' "audience" ate it up). He and P'Diddy are the most overblown, over celebrat-ized people I've seen in years.



Kanye West saying he's "The voice of this generation" is like someone saying ugh, saying... hm, ugh wait a minute (thinking...thinking...)

You know what? That IS total hypocrisy right there. You just can't top that!

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Postby Vladan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:50 am

Wow the best singer just go voted out, this show is a JOKE... what are you Americans smoking? sometimes I thought Australia was a joke when it came to voting, but this just takes the cake.

Seriously, pretty stupid... I mean why would you vote out the best singer?, and keep trash in, boycotting this shit, it's so stupid, I have no more words to say.
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Postby artist4perry » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:59 am

Vladan wrote:Wow the best singer just go voted out, this show is a JOKE... what are you Americans smoking? sometimes I thought Australia was a joke when it came to voting, but this just takes the cake.

Seriously, pretty stupid... I mean why would you vote out the best singer?, and keep trash in, boycotting this shit, it's so stupid, I have no more words to say.


Sorry Vlad, if the world was perfect we would toss them out, but unfortunately the little clones who vote otherwise screw it all up.............I vote we get a giant sized can of RAID and rid ourselves of the little darlings once and for all!.............. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Jubilee » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:00 am

Vladan wrote:Wow the best singer just go voted out, this show is a JOKE... what are you Americans smoking? sometimes I thought Australia was a joke when it came to voting, but this just takes the cake.

Seriously, pretty stupid... I mean why would you vote out the best singer?, and keep trash in, boycotting this shit, it's so stupid, I have no more words to say.



I'm sorry?....Are you completely unfamiliar with American Idol? Happens all the time. Hang in there. Somewhere along the line there's bound to be a train wreck, and you DON'T want to miss that, now do ya? 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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