Manila YouTubes here.

[steveo777]

they should leave that alone. no one can touch that song after JSS got done with it. and DOA. not even Perry.

You are as bad as some myopic Arnelian sometimes. Come on Deb, as much as you and I for that matter love Jeffy, Perry can't be topped. Go listen to Perry do this on the Houston DVD and then listen to anyone else try that and tell me with a straight face that Perry's version was inferior.

WTF is wrong with you people? Are you all on dope?

Short memories, apparently.

Must be. How can folks ever forget Perry and how good he really was is mind boggling.

Ok, I'll buy in with the key word being WAS. But I still love my 69 Chevelle SS396 that I haven't owned since 1985.

[Don]

Can't read through 8 pages. So, did anyone say what the attendance was?

The estimate is around 25k out of 32k available. It's quite an accomplishment, considering Journey has never been big there. I would think at least 20 percent of the crowd were there out of national pride more than anything else. They pimped the hell out of this concert but I think if the band ever performs there again, they should play a smaller venue. Once the novelty of AP wears off these people won't really be interested in attending another show. Melodic Rock just isn't that big over there. I think the band did this show as a favor to Arnel and to gauge their popularity in Manila. I think, just as it was in the days of Perry, Japan is where their true asian fan base lays.

[Saint John]

they should leave that alone. no one can touch that song after JSS got done with it. and DOA. not even Perry.

You are as bad as some myopic Arnelian sometimes. Come on Deb, as much as you and I for that matter love Jeffy, Perry can't be topped. Go listen to Perry do this on the Houston DVD and then listen to anyone else try that and tell me with a straight face that Perry's version was inferior.

WTF is wrong with you people? Are you all on dope?

Short memories, apparently.

Must be. How can folks ever forget Perry and how good he really was is mind boggling.

I think it's more of a case of moving on than it is forgetting. Besides, Perry forgot about us.

[StevePerryHair]

they should leave that alone. no one can touch that song after JSS got done with it. and DOA. not even Perry.

You are as bad as some myopic Arnelian sometimes. Come on Deb, as much as you and I for that matter love Jeffy, Perry can't be topped. Go listen to Perry do this on the Houston DVD and then listen to anyone else try that and tell me with a straight face that Perry's version was inferior.

WTF is wrong with you people? Are you all on dope?

Short memories, apparently.

Must be. How can folks ever forget Perry and how good he really was is mind boggling.

I think it's more of a case of moving on than it is forgetting. Besides, Perry forgot about us.

And a case of enjoying what we have now, because we can't have back the past. It may as well stay there. That's what the DVD's are for in my eyes. The Perry past. We may as well enjoy what we have currently until we have it no more.

[bluejeangirl76]

Must be. How can folks ever forget Perry and how good he really was is mind boggling.

I think it's more of a case of moving on than it is forgetting. Besides, Perry forgot about us.

Again with that? You know what, Dan? Shut up.

[SP Fan in Oregon]

they should leave that alone. no one can touch that song after JSS got done with it. and DOA. not even Perry.

You are as bad as some myopic Arnelian sometimes. Come on Deb, as much as you and I for that matter love Jeffy, Perry can't be topped. Go listen to Perry do this on the Houston DVD and then listen to anyone else try that and tell me with a straight face that Perry's version was inferior.

WTF is wrong with you people? Are you all on dope?

Short memories, apparently.

Must be. How can folks ever forget Perry and how good he really was is mind boggling.

I think Arnel did a great job on his Manila tour songs, better than I have heard in the past. Whatever his secret for improving so much between Super Bowl and Manila, Kudos to him.
However, I've been listening to Perry singing on CDs ALL DAY today and believe me Deano.......... NO ONE COMPARES to Steve Perry, no one will forget.......... He is unforgetable and the magic
of his voice is unparalled. All it takes is to go back and listen to Perry, and REMEMBER.

[Don]

they should leave that alone. no one can touch that song after JSS got done with it. and DOA. not even Perry.

You are as bad as some myopic Arnelian sometimes. Come on Deb, as much as you and I for that matter love Jeffy, Perry can't be topped. Go listen to Perry do this on the Houston DVD and then listen to anyone else try that and tell me with a straight face that Perry's version was inferior.

WTF is wrong with you people? Are you all on dope?

Short memories, apparently.

Must be. How can folks ever forget Perry and how good he really was is mind boggling.

Ok, I'll buy in with the key word being WAS. But I still love my 69 Chevelle SS396 that I haven't owned since 1985.

My Escape CD still sounds great so I don't know what WAS has to do with anything. This is not a Karaoke contest to pit different singers against each other. The next album will tell if Arnel can create his own legacy with the band. When Perry's name appears in less than half of the songs on the Setlist, then we will know that Arnel has arrived.

[Maui Tom]

Lotsa those PI fans had never HEARD Journey music before...only natural they get a healthy dose of Revelation...they were there to see "Arnel Pineda and The Journey" afterall...

[Gideon]

they should leave that alone. no one can touch that song after JSS got done with it. and DOA. not even Perry.

You are as bad as some myopic Arnelian sometimes. Come on Deb, as much as you and I for that matter love Jeffy, Perry can't be topped. Go listen to Perry do this on the Houston DVD and then listen to anyone else try that and tell me with a straight face that Perry's version was inferior.

WTF is wrong with you people? Are you all on dope?

Short memories, apparently.

Must be. How can folks ever forget Perry and how good he really was is mind boggling.

Ok, I'll buy in with the key word being WAS. But I still love my 69 Chevelle SS396 that I haven't owned since 1985.

My Escape CD still sounds great so I don't know what WAS has to do with anything. This is not a Karaoke contest to pit different singers against each other. The next album will tell if Arnel can create his own legacy with the band.When Perry's name appears in less than half of the songs on the Setlist, then we will know that Arnel has arrived.

Presumably, Steveo was referring to Perry's noticeable decline in power, range, and other technical aspects.

[Saint John]

My Escape CD still sounds great so I don't know what WAS has to do with anything. This is not a Karaoke contest to pit different singers against each other. The next album will tell if Arnel can create his own legacy with the band. When Perry's name appears in less than half of the songs on the Setlist, then we will know that Arnel has arrived.

I think she meant in a live setting with Journey. You know, the guys Perry wouldn't tour with in 1994. Stone cracking motherfucker.

[steveo777]

they should leave that alone. no one can touch that song after JSS got done with it. and DOA. not even Perry.

You are as bad as some myopic Arnelian sometimes. Come on Deb, as much as you and I for that matter love Jeffy, Perry can't be topped. Go listen to Perry do this on the Houston DVD and then listen to anyone else try that and tell me with a straight face that Perry's version was inferior.

WTF is wrong with you people? Are you all on dope?

Short memories, apparently.

Must be. How can folks ever forget Perry and how good he really was is mind boggling.

Ok, I'll buy in with the key word being WAS. But I still love my 69 Chevelle SS396 that I haven't owned since 1985.

My Escape CD still sounds great so I don't know what WAS has to do with anything. This is not a Karaoke contest to pit different singers against each other. The next album will tell if Arnel can create his own legacy with the band. When Perry's name appears in less than half of the songs on the Setlist, then we will know that Arnel has arrived.

GB, I still love to listen to SP. The Was was for when SP was still with Journey. But I also get to appreciate what IS in the here and now. Ok, now it's all word spin.

[Don]

Lotsa those PI fans had never HEARD Journey music before...only natural they get a healthy dose of Revelation...they were there to see "Arnel Pineda and The Journey" afterall...

This is true. It seems like they only knew some of the Rev songs though. Having lived there, I can say Air Supply and Peter Cetera are more their style of rock.
The U.S. and Japan are the places that will really appreciate Arnel's contribution to the band, it's just the way it is.

[Gideon]

That is the only negative I've seen on these videos. The music and setlist were incredible, but the crowd seemed less-than-enthused. At least towards the back. SJ, how was the crowd?

[steveo777]

That is the only negative I've seen on these videos. The music and setlist were incredible, but the crowd seemed less-than-enthused. At least towards the back. SJ, how was the crowd?

Filipino culture has a tendency to be a bit subdued at times. I don't think it's that they weren't digging it, I just think they didn't know the songs yet.

[Maui Tom]

pretty sure the Ripster stole AP's thunder....

[Gideon]

That is the only negative I've seen on these videos. The music and setlist were incredible, but the crowd seemed less-than-enthused. At least towards the back. SJ, how was the crowd?

Filipino culture has a tendency to be a bit subdued at times. I don't think it's that they weren't digging it, I just think they didn't know the songs yet.

Perhaps.

From experience, I can tell you that I'm not animated at Journey concerts. It's such an overwhelmingly happy feeling for my family and I while we're there that all I can muster is a shit-eating grin. It's being mesmerized. Thank God, too, because I don't want to torture the rest of the crowd by exposing them to my dancing skills.

That's one thing I dig about our proms. It's all grinding; the guys just have to stand there and take it.

[Jana]

Can't read through 8 pages. So, did anyone say what the attendance was?

The estimate is around 25k out of 32k available. It's quite an accomplishment, considering Journey has never been big there. I would think at least 20 percent of the crowd were there out of national pride more than anything else. They pimped the hell out of this concert but I think if the band ever performs there again, they should play a smaller venue. Once the novelty of AP wears off these people won't really be interested in attending another show. Melodic Rock just isn't that big over there. I think the band did this show as a favor to Arnel and to gauge their popularity in Manila. I think, just as it was in the days of Perry, Japan is where their true asian fan base lays.

Why did they do such small venues in Japan? It seems like they could have filled larger venues there than they played in.

[Rockindeano]

Why did they do such small venues in Japan? It seems like they could have filled larger venues there than they played in.

Sure about that?

[Saint John]

That is the only negative I've seen on these videos. The music and setlist were incredible, but the crowd seemed less-than-enthused. At least towards the back. SJ, how was the crowd?

I wasn't ther, but Rip was. Just a different culture. They're far less into the screaming and shouting thing. Hell, look at the Perry shows in Japan in the 80's. They loved the band, but sat for the most part.

[annie89509]

they should leave that alone. no one can touch that song after JSS got done with it. and DOA. not even Perry.

You are as bad as some myopic Arnelian sometimes. Come on Deb, as much as you and I for that matter love Jeffy, Perry can't be topped. Go listen to Perry do this on the Houston DVD and then listen to anyone else try that and tell me with a straight face that Perry's version was inferior.

WTF is wrong with you people? Are you all on dope?

Short memories, apparently.

Must be. How can folks ever forget Perry and how good he really was is mind boggling.

I think Arnel did a great job on his Manila tour songs, better than I have heard in the past. Whatever his secret for improving so much between Super Bowl and Manila, Kudos to him.
However, I've been listening to Perry singing on CDs ALL DAY today and believe me Deano.......... NO ONE COMPARES to Steve Perry, no one will forget.......... He is unforgetable and the magic
of his voice is unparalled. All it takes is to go back and listen to Perry, and REMEMBER.

I agree with everything SPFoO just posted above.

[Jana]

they should leave that alone. no one can touch that song after JSS got done with it. and DOA. not even Perry.

You are as bad as some myopic Arnelian sometimes. Come on Deb, as much as you and I for that matter love Jeffy, Perry can't be topped. Go listen to Perry do this on the Houston DVD and then listen to anyone else try that and tell me with a straight face that Perry's version was inferior.

WTF is wrong with you people? Are you all on dope?

Short memories, apparently.

Must be. How can folks ever forget Perry and how good he really was is mind boggling.

Deano, I don't understand. I don't think anybody on here is forgetting Perry. She just mentioned one song that emotionally touched her by JSS the way he sang it. You once did the same thing during your first concert with JSS, expressing your excitement over that concert.

This was just a thread about the concert with Arnel. Just because I thought Arnel was fantastic doesn't take away my admiration for Perry in the least. Nobody was saying Arnel is better than Perry or making it into that. Arnel is with Journey now and we were just celebrating a great concert and discussing it. I don't understand what you mean "WTF is wrong with you people." I listen to Perry with Journey all the time as I'm sure most on this thread do.

[Rockindeano]

Filipino culture has a tendency to be a bit subdued at times. I don't think it's that they weren't digging it, I just think they didn't know the songs yet.

They don't know the songs? Come on. They bought that fuckin cd the day it came out.

[Jana]

Filipino culture has a tendency to be a bit subdued at times. I don't think it's that they weren't digging it, I just think they didn't know the songs yet.

They don't know the songs? Come on. They bought that fuckin cd the day it came out.

The Fil-Ams here did. I don't know how many Filipinos over there did.

[steveo777]

Filipino culture has a tendency to be a bit subdued at times. I don't think it's that they weren't digging it, I just think they didn't know the songs yet.

They don't know the songs? Come on. They bought that fuckin cd the day it came out.

Crowd just seemed more active on the dirty dozen stuff. ????? Ok, then maybe they were just mezmerized beyond response. Or they didn't like the new shit, is that where you were going?

[annie89509]

Jana, Gideon (for one) has said he preferred Arnel's version on certain songs (over and over, again) .. which is really what I don't understand.

[Jana]

Jana, Gideon (for one) has said he preferred Arnel's version on certain songs (over and over, again) .. which is really what I don't understand.

Well, Gideon is Gideon, an island unto himself.

But I do prefer Arnel's Open Arms to Perry, but to me it's not a pissiing contest. Truthfully, I don't like listening to either version too much.

[Saint John]

Jana, Gideon (for one) has said he preferred Arnel's version on certain songs (over and over, again) .. which is really what I don't understand.

What's so hard to understand? You like Fleishmann singing Wheel In The Sky and Winds OF March or Perry? Thought so.

[Maui Tom]

Great thing about music...nobody and I mean NOBODY can tell you what to like....

[Don]

5O Percent of that crowd knew maybe 6 songs tops. Half of the plokkers on AP's own site only own Revelation. Throw out the Fil-Ams and we're talking third world economics, it's not like the populace has money to go out and buy cds of a band they might hear occasionally on the radio. With all the factors involved, I think the concert was a success but I honestly don't see Journey returning there anytime soon.

[brywool]

Jana, Gideon (for one) has said he preferred Arnel's version on certain songs (over and over, again) .. which is really what I don't understand.

Why does this matter so much to people?
Arnels "Only The Young" is better than Perry's version to me. Doesn't mean I can't listen to both.
I prefer Perry's version of Wheel in the Sky, but I like what Arnel did with it too.

I don't understand the mentality here at all. Journey's getting to do what they want. So is Perry. Everybody's happy.

What's the problem?