How much would Journey have made on tour if...

[stevew2]

Maby 6o mill, perry aint even close to Neil Diamond,that dude is an icon

[Deacon]

I doubt they would have made much more than Arnel's performances. If anything, they probably would have made less, imho.

In my opinion, Steve Perry isn't up to par compared to his former days as frontman; I'm sure the nostalgia would have worn off eventually.

[stevew2]

I doubt they would have made much more than Arnel's performances. If anything, they probably would have made less, imho.

In my opinion, Steve Perry isn't up to par compared to his former days as frontman; I'm sure the nostalgia would have worn off eventually.

That fake Azzoff would have milked it and gotten bigger bucks,he is a fuckin con artist just like cornel Tom Parker was with Elvis

[cyndy!]

Apples and oranges anyhoo -- it's all a function of numbers of shows, ticket prices, and venue sizes. Some of these acts did relatively few shows and others did extended tours.

ya, way too many variables going on to determine the success of a tour with just ticket revenue.

[Deacon]

I'm assuming Azzoff is either their publicist or something comparable to that. If I am wrong, please correct me.

But, as I stated before, the nostalgia would have worn off eventually if Perry wasn't up to par on vocals. Word would spread and ticket sales would decline either way.

I can understand wanting to see Perry for, possibly, one of the last times in his career, but for the sake of ticket sales, Arnel is a better bet. Perry is, simply put, worn out.

[Rockindeano]

Apples and oranges anyhoo -- it's all a function of numbers of shows, ticket prices, and venue sizes. Some of these acts did relatively few shows and others did extended tours.

ya, way too many variables going on to determine the success of a tour with just ticket revenue.

What variables? Of that list, no artists on it sold more than I think 3 million records. This is basically touring revenue yes?

[cyndy!]

I'm assuming Azzoff is either their publicist or something comparable to that. If I am wrong, please correct me.

But, as I stated before, the nostalgia would have worn off eventually if Perry wasn't up to par on vocals. Word would spread and ticket sales would decline either way.

I can understand wanting to see Perry for, possibly, one of the last times in his career, but for the sake of ticket sales, Arnel is a better bet. Perry is, simply put, worn out.

azoff is one of the most powerful people in the music industry at the moment. CEO of ticketmaster & manager of most bands (it seems). scary amount of power.

[Deacon]

I'm assuming Azzoff is either their publicist or something comparable to that. If I am wrong, please correct me.

But, as I stated before, the nostalgia would have worn off eventually if Perry wasn't up to par on vocals. Word would spread and ticket sales would decline either way.

I can understand wanting to see Perry for, possibly, one of the last times in his career, but for the sake of ticket sales, Arnel is a better bet. Perry is, simply put, worn out.

azoff is one of the most powerful people in the music industry at the moment. CEO of ticketmaster & manager of most bands (it seems). scary amount of power.

K. Thanks for that.

[cyndy!]

Apples and oranges anyhoo -- it's all a function of numbers of shows, ticket prices, and venue sizes. Some of these acts did relatively few shows and others did extended tours.

ya, way too many variables going on to determine the success of a tour with just ticket revenue.

What variables? Of that list, no artists on it sold more than I think 3 million records. This is basically touring revenue yes?

are we talking about just total ticket sales, no matter what the ticket price, number of shows, length of tour & amount of merch sold?

[Rhiannon]

azoff is one of the most powerful people in the music industry at the moment. CEO of ticketmaster & manager of most bands (it seems). scary amount of power.

Exactly.

[Rockindeano]

are we talking about just total ticket sales, no matter what the ticket price, number of shows, length of tour & amount of merch sold?

I believe that's what this list is- complete total money brought in.

[Rick]

I'm assuming Azzoff is either their publicist or something comparable to that. If I am wrong, please correct me.

But, as I stated before, the nostalgia would have worn off eventually if Perry wasn't up to par on vocals. Word would spread and ticket sales would decline either way.

I can understand wanting to see Perry for, possibly, one of the last times in his career, but for the sake of ticket sales, Arnel is a better bet. Perry is, simply put, worn out.

I disagree. A Perry fronted Journey would outdraw any other frontman you could put out there. Period. Certainly, people go to concerts to hear their favorite music, but also are connected to the artists that created it. I'm one of the biggest Soto and Arnel fans on this site, but I'd buy 10 tickets with Perry to 1 of anyone else. But that's from a fan that's seen Perry in concert. That may not be the case with the younger generation, and I'll concede, there were a ton of younger fans at the shows I've seen since Perry's departure. I still say though, A Perry fronted Journey would outdraw todays lineup, easily. Don't forget, if Perry was still out front, Smitty would still be behind the kit. As much as I love Castronovo, Smitty is THE SHIT on the drums.

[perryswoman]

I'm assuming Azzoff is either their publicist or something comparable to that. If I am wrong, please correct me.

But, as I stated before, the nostalgia would have worn off eventually if Perry wasn't up to par on vocals. Word would spread and ticket sales would decline either way.

I can understand wanting to see Perry for, possibly, one of the last times in his career, but for the sake of ticket sales, Arnel is a better bet. Perry is, simply put, worn out.

I disagree. A Perry fronted Journey would outdraw any other frontman you could put out there. Period. Certainly, people go to concerts to hear their favorite music, but also are connected to the artists that created it. I'm one of the biggest Soto and Arnel fans on this site, but I'd buy 10 tickets with Perry to 1 of anyone else. But that's from a fan that's seen Perry in concert. That may not be the case with the younger generation, and I'll concede, there were a ton of younger fans at the shows I've seen since Perry's departure. I still say though, A Perry fronted Journey would outdraw todays lineup, easily. Don't forget, if Perry was still out front, Smitty would still be behind the kit. As much as I love Castronovo, Smitty is THE SHIT on the drums.

+1

[stevew2]

I'm assuming Azzoff is either their publicist or something comparable to that. If I am wrong, please correct me.

But, as I stated before, the nostalgia would have worn off eventually if Perry wasn't up to par on vocals. Word would spread and ticket sales would decline either way.

I can understand wanting to see Perry for, possibly, one of the last times in his career, but for the sake of ticket sales, Arnel is a better bet. Perry is, simply put, worn out.

I disagree. A Perry fronted Journey would outdraw any other frontman you could put out there. Period. Certainly, people go to concerts to hear their favorite music, but also are connected to the artists that created it. I'm one of the biggest Soto and Arnel fans on this site, but I'd buy 10 tickets with Perry to 1 of anyone else. But that's from a fan that's seen Perry in concert. That may not be the case with the younger generation, and I'll concede, there were a ton of younger fans at the shows I've seen since Perry's departure. I still say though, A Perry fronted Journey would outdraw todays lineup, easily. Don't forget, if Perry was still out front, Smitty would still be behind the kit. As much as I love Castronovo, Smitty is THE SHIT on the drums.

You are did on Rick {you little prick}

[Rick]

I'm assuming Azzoff is either their publicist or something comparable to that. If I am wrong, please correct me.

But, as I stated before, the nostalgia would have worn off eventually if Perry wasn't up to par on vocals. Word would spread and ticket sales would decline either way.

I can understand wanting to see Perry for, possibly, one of the last times in his career, but for the sake of ticket sales, Arnel is a better bet. Perry is, simply put, worn out.

I disagree. A Perry fronted Journey would outdraw any other frontman you could put out there. Period. Certainly, people go to concerts to hear their favorite music, but also are connected to the artists that created it. I'm one of the biggest Soto and Arnel fans on this site, but I'd buy 10 tickets with Perry to 1 of anyone else. But that's from a fan that's seen Perry in concert. That may not be the case with the younger generation, and I'll concede, there were a ton of younger fans at the shows I've seen since Perry's departure. I still say though, A Perry fronted Journey would outdraw todays lineup, easily. Don't forget, if Perry was still out front, Smitty would still be behind the kit. As much as I love Castronovo, Smitty is THE SHIT on the drums.

You are did on Rick {you little prick}

[Saint John]

Don't forget, if Perry was still out front, Smitty would still be behind the kit. As much as I love Castronovo, Smitty is THE SHIT on the drums.

I don't you could get Perry to sign on without keeping Castronovo. Unless of course you piped in the background vocals. Deen would save Steve a lot of straining on choruses. Besides, Neal would never kick Deen out of the band. It's all a moot point anyway. I think Neal is happy with a functioning group of drama-less guys that want to write, record and tour. As big as a Perry-led comeback tour with Journey would be I'm not quite sure Neal would ever agree to it unless Perry was able to commit to a certain amount of shows...and he'll never do that. Fuck, he can't decide whether or not to release a completed album!!!

[Voyager]

I doubt they would have made much more than Arnel's performances. If anything, they probably would have made less, imho.

You can't be serious? I personally know dozens of people who would go see a Perry-led Journey that wouldn't go see them with anyone else singing for them.

Let's be realistic about this... if The Police would have gone on tour with a new unknown singer, would they have grossed as much as they did with Sting?

[perryswoman]

I doubt they would have made much more than Arnel's performances. If anything, they probably would have made less, imho.

You can't be serious? I personally know dozens of people who would go see a Perry-led Journey that wouldn't go see them with anyone else singing for them.

Let's be realistic about this... if The Police would have gone on tour with a new unknown singer, would they have grossed as much as they did with Sting?

exactly

[stevew2]

Don't forget, if Perry was still out front, Smitty would still be behind the kit. As much as I love Castronovo, Smitty is THE SHIT on the drums.

I don't you could get Perry to sign on without keeping Castronovo. Unless of course you piped in the background vocals. Deen would save Steve a lot of straining on choruses. Besides, Neal would never kick Deen out of the band. It's all a moot point anyway. I think Neal is happy with a functioning group of drama-less guys that want to write, record and tour. As big as a Perry-led comeback tour with Journey would be I'm not quite sure Neal would ever agree to it unless Perry was able to commit to a certain amount of shows...and he'll never do that. Fuck, he can't decide whether or not to release a completed album!!!

You are right Deen would have bailed out Perry even more so than Augeri

[Rick]

Don't forget, if Perry was still out front, Smitty would still be behind the kit. As much as I love Castronovo, Smitty is THE SHIT on the drums.

I don't you could get Perry to sign on without keeping Castronovo. Unless of course you piped in the background vocals. Deen would save Steve a lot of straining on choruses. Besides, Neal would never kick Deen out of the band. It's all a moot point anyway. I think Neal is happy with a functioning group of drama-less guys that want to write, record and tour. As big as a Perry-led comeback tour with Journey would be I'm not quite sure Neal would ever agree to it unless Perry was able to commit to a certain amount of shows...and he'll never do that. Fuck, he can't decide whether or not to release a completed album!!!

Yeah, I was speaking totally hypothetically. They're the best Journey we're going to see ever again, right now.

[stevew2]

Don't forget, if Perry was still out front, Smitty would still be behind the kit. As much as I love Castronovo, Smitty is THE SHIT on the drums.

I don't you could get Perry to sign on without keeping Castronovo. Unless of course you piped in the background vocals. Deen would save Steve a lot of straining on choruses. Besides, Neal would never kick Deen out of the band. It's all a moot point anyway. I think Neal is happy with a functioning group of drama-less guys that want to write, record and tour. As big as a Perry-led comeback tour with Journey would be I'm not quite sure Neal would ever agree to it unless Perry was able to commit to a certain amount of shows...and he'll never do that. Fuck, he can't decide whether or not to release a completed album!!!

Yeah, I was speaking totally hypothetically. They're the best Journey we're going to see ever again, right now.

I think you are right MR Rick

[Voyager]

Hell, why not do what Boston does and get mutliple Perry-style singers in the band? That way Arnel and Augeri could do backups for Perry and help him on some of the high notes like Fran Cosmo did for Brad Delp.

That would be fucking awesome!

[Rick]

Hell, why not do what Boston does and get mutliple Perry-style singers in the band? That way Arnel and Augeri could do backups for Perry and help him on some of the high notes like Fran Cosmo did for Brad Delp.

That would be fucking awesome!

I think I can post this here, as it's not for sale, but Delp and Goudreau did a song to bring to Scholz to encourage him to do another album. It's called Rockin' Away and was recorded just one year before he died. I think it's fantastic. Delp sounded great on this.

http://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNMa ... MTQwTVE9PQ

[stevew2]

Hell, why not do what Boston does and get mutliple Perry-style singers in the band? That way Arnel and Augeri could do backups for Perry and help him on some of the high notes like Fran Cosmo did for Brad Delp.

That would be fucking awesome!

Augeri will never be on stage with Journey ever again,nor would id want him to be .Are you really High????

[Voyager]

Hell, why not do what Boston does and get mutliple Perry-style singers in the band? That way Arnel and Augeri could do backups for Perry and help him on some of the high notes like Fran Cosmo did for Brad Delp.

That would be fucking awesome!

Augeri will never be on stage with Journey ever again,nor would id want him to be .Are you really High????

This is a fantasy thread anyway so I may as well use my imagination. And yes, I am high - how did you know?

[stevew2]

Hell, why not do what Boston does and get mutliple Perry-style singers in the band? That way Arnel and Augeri could do backups for Perry and help him on some of the high notes like Fran Cosmo did for Brad Delp.

That would be fucking awesome!

Augeri will never be on stage with Journey ever again,nor would id want him to be .Are you really High????

This is a fantasy thread anyway so I may as well use my imagination. And yes, I am high - how did you know?

I hope you are not smokin weed.id love to here Augeri sing separete ways again with journey, i must be high also ,wine is my drug, i better check out,take care,I just kid around anyway,have a good night.

[Voyager]

Hell, why not do what Boston does and get mutliple Perry-style singers in the band? That way Arnel and Augeri could do backups for Perry and help him on some of the high notes like Fran Cosmo did for Brad Delp.

That would be fucking awesome!

Augeri will never be on stage with Journey ever again,nor would id want him to be .Are you really High????

This is a fantasy thread anyway so I may as well use my imagination. And yes, I am high - how did you know?

I hope you are not smokin weed.id love to here Augeri sing separete ways again with journey, i must be high also ,wine is my drug, i better check out,take care,I just kid around anyway,have a good night.

No alcohol tonight for me... just a little budz on the vaporizer. We all have our vices.

[stevew2]

Thats cool,your chick is the best night

[Shadowsong]

I'm assuming Azzoff is either their publicist or something comparable to that. If I am wrong, please correct me.

But, as I stated before, the nostalgia would have worn off eventually if Perry wasn't up to par on vocals. Word would spread and ticket sales would decline either way.

I can understand wanting to see Perry for, possibly, one of the last times in his career, but for the sake of ticket sales, Arnel is a better bet. Perry is, simply put, worn out.

azoff is one of the most powerful people in the music industry at the moment. CEO of ticketmaster & manager of most bands (it seems). scary amount of power.

Irving Azoff is an Icon!
Kudos to the man!
I owe him a little piece of my heart...

[7 Wishes]

DLR hasn't near the voice he used to....and VH he's still touring.....I think this is a cop out response, SJ.

Dave sounded better in 07-08 than he has since the 80's. Enough of the Dave-bashing, already.