SP: New Stuff in 2009 Or Not?

[Gideon]

I like him no matter what he sounds like.

I truthfully don't understand this. To clarify, are you saying that even if he sounds like shit, you'll still love it because he's Steve Perry?

Yep I guess so.I personally Havent heard any of his songs that I can say that I hate When FTLOSM came out i didnt like it at first because He sounded different than the other Albums now I love it. I cant believe he would sound that much different today. But i guess time will tell (or not).

I see.

[Since 78]

Don't know, don't care anymore.

Yeah, I know, Loon card Revocation!!

[jrnyman28]

Will you people leave this guy alone already. I've taken a step back and realized why I don't like him anymore...you people. You people have turned me against him. Do I agree with everything he has (and hasn't) done - no, but christ sakes give it a rest already.

The negativity of some people could suck the color out of a rainbow. And the over-the-top worship can be just as crazy. If you let what others say affect the way you feel about someone and their music, that is on you. People like to speculate and discuss on message forums, but nothing anyone posts here affects the music I listen to. Well, unless it is someone suggesting an artist I haven't listened to before.

I would like to think that is true Lora, but I have struggled in a similar fashion from time to time. In general I am ok. But I know I went through a major bout of just not caring about Journey anymore because all the rhetoric on this site was so overwhelming. I checked out for a while. But to this day I rarely plug in my classic Journey CDs. They come up on my iPoed and I thoroughly enjoy them...but I never seem to "pick" Journey anymore. But then, I have spent many years entrenched in the Journey fan fight...it was bound to have it's affect. Maybe this is like the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder vets feel after they return home from war?

[Tito]

Will you people leave this guy alone already. I've taken a step back and realized why I don't like him anymore...you people. You people have turned me against him. Do I agree with everything he has (and hasn't) done - no, but christ sakes give it a rest already.

The negativity of some people could suck the color out of a rainbow. And the over-the-top worship can be just as crazy. If you let what others say affect the way you feel about someone and their music, that is on you. People like to speculate and discuss on message forums, but nothing anyone posts here affects the music I listen to. Well, unless it is someone suggesting an artist I haven't listened to before.

I thought the era of self responsibility was over. I thought we were in the era of "it's everyone else's fault." Sorry.

[walkslikealady]

Will you people leave this guy alone already. I've taken a step back and realized why I don't like him anymore...you people. You people have turned me against him. Do I agree with everything he has (and hasn't) done - no, but christ sakes give it a rest already.

The negativity of some people could suck the color out of a rainbow. And the over-the-top worship can be just as crazy. If you let what others say affect the way you feel about someone and their music, that is on you. People like to speculate and discuss on message forums, but nothing anyone posts here affects the music I listen to. Well, unless it is someone suggesting an artist I haven't listened to before.

I kind of disagree 'cause associations can affect the way I feel about people, songs, and things in general. For example, hearing a family member died while listening to a song colors that song for me.

Don't really know, however, I took it that your friend SP understood a similar concept when he didn't want a person getting wacked to DSB. Maybe I misunderstand what you're saying about what others say not affecting the way you feel about someone and their music...or all your associations are good with music.

[journel]

OK, let's see where we stand. A very simple poll. Only 2 choices needed.

Will SP release new material in 2009? Easy question. YES or NO?

Whadda ya think?

no...after listening to tbf again...i doubt it, after 12 years...i don't think so!

Shut your piehole, tramp.

you shut up...you don't know anything except you're a loudmouth...listen to tbf (not on your transistor radio)...and see how sp struggles to reach those high notes despite spending all those long hours in the studio just to produce a mediocre album...sp is done but he was the best in his prime. he's done and so are you!

[youkeepmewaiting]

OK, let's see where we stand. A very simple poll. Only 2 choices needed.

Will SP release new material in 2009? Easy question. YES or NO?

Whadda ya think?

no...after listening to tbf again...i doubt it, after 12 years...i don't think so!

Shut your piehole, tramp.

you shut up...you don't know anything except you're a loudmouth...listen to tbf (not on your transistor radio)...and see how sp struggles to reach those high notes despite spending all those long hours in the studio just to produce a mediocre album...sp is done but he was the best in his prime. he's done and so are you!

Trial By Fire was a damn good album, musical craftmanship at its best. Great melodies and amazing guitar. And still a decent voice (not great by any stretch) that added a wonderful soothing tone to the album. Sure, it could of done with rocking up but... fuck you...

[Granny]

OK, let's see where we stand. A very simple poll. Only 2 choices needed.

Will SP release new material in 2009? Easy question. YES or NO?

Whadda ya think?

no...after listening to tbf again...i doubt it, after 12 years...i don't think so!

Shut your piehole, tramp.

you shut up...you don't know anything except you're a loudmouth...listen to tbf (not on your transistor radio)...and see how sp struggles to reach those high notes despite spending all those long hours in the studio just to produce a mediocre album...sp is done but he was the best in his prime. he's done and so are you!

and you know even less....be wise and shut your mouth before a LOON flies in!!!!!!!!

[Gideon]

OK, let's see where we stand. A very simple poll. Only 2 choices needed.

Will SP release new material in 2009? Easy question. YES or NO?

Whadda ya think?

no...after listening to tbf again...i doubt it, after 12 years...i don't think so!

Shut your piehole, tramp.

you shut up...you don't know anything except you're a loudmouth...listen to tbf (not on your transistor radio)...and see how sp struggles to reach those high notes despite spending all those long hours in the studio just to produce a mediocre album...sp is done but he was the best in his prime. he's done and so are you!

Trial By Fire was a damn good album, musical craftmanship at its best. Great melodies and amazing guitar. And still a decent voice (not great by any stretch) that added a wonderful soothing tone to the album. Sure, it could of done with rocking up but... fuck you...

+1 (except for the "shut the fuck up part"... I don't know this lady).

And TBF rocked sparsely. But when it did, it did it well.

[Jana]

OK, let's see where we stand. A very simple poll. Only 2 choices needed.

Will SP release new material in 2009? Easy question. YES or NO?

Whadda ya think?

no...after listening to tbf again...i doubt it, after 12 years...i don't think so!

Shut your piehole, tramp.

you shut up...you don't know anything except you're a loudmouth...listen to tbf (not on your transistor radio)...and see how sp struggles to reach those high notes despite spending all those long hours in the studio just to produce a mediocre album...sp is done but he was the best in his prime. he's done and so are you!

Trial By Fire was a damn good album, musical craftmanship at its best. Great melodies and amazing guitar. And still a decent voice (not great by any stretch) that added a wonderful soothing tone to the album. Sure, it could of done with rocking up but... fuck you...

+1 (except for the "shut the fuck up part"... I don't know this lady).

And TBF rocked sparsely. But when it did, it did it well.

One More - fantastic.

[journel]

OK, let's see where we stand. A very simple poll. Only 2 choices needed.

Will SP release new material in 2009? Easy question. YES or NO?

Whadda ya think?

no...after listening to tbf again...i doubt it, after 12 years...i don't think so!

Shut your piehole, tramp.

you shut up...you don't know anything except you're a loudmouth...listen to tbf (not on your transistor radio)...and see how sp struggles to reach those high notes despite spending all those long hours in the studio just to produce a mediocre album...sp is done but he was the best in his prime. he's done and so are you!

Trial By Fire was a damn good album, musical craftmanship at its best. Great melodies and amazing guitar. And still a decent voice (not great by any stretch) that added a wonderful soothing tone to the album. Sure, it could of done with rocking up but... fuck you...

i agree on tbf having great melodies and amazing guitar riffs by neal but vocally...c'mon...don't kid yourself...it's all about the music for me and not steve perry!

[Gideon]

it's all about the music for me and not steve perry!

+1.

This is me all the way. Love them with Steve Perry, love them without.

[youkeepmewaiting]

it's all about the music for me and not steve perry!

+1.

This is me all the way. Love them with Steve Perry, love them without.

Agreed!

[journel]

OK, let's see where we stand. A very simple poll. Only 2 choices needed.

Will SP release new material in 2009? Easy question. YES or NO?

Whadda ya think?

no...after listening to tbf again...i doubt it, after 12 years...i don't think so!

Shut your piehole, tramp.

you shut up...you don't know anything except you're a loudmouth...listen to tbf (not on your transistor radio)...and see how sp struggles to reach those high notes despite spending all those long hours in the studio just to produce a mediocre album...sp is done but he was the best in his prime. he's done and so are you!

and you know even less....be wise and shut your mouth before a LOON flies in!!!!!!!!

be wise and say even .01% of sp is good enough just to satisfy the loons...i'll pass...i'm not that kind of a person. loved sp when he was on his peak and won't settle for anything less from the guy...it's all about the music...nothing personal!

[Gideon]

...i'll pass...i'm not that kind of a person. loved sp when he was on his peak and won't settle for anything less from the guy...it's all about the music...nothing personal!

Again, +1.

[Don]

I won't lie, It's all about Perry for me, when it comes to the classics, and all about Augeri when it comes to Arrival and Generations. I'll only judge Arnel on Revelation material. I don't care if Arnel sounds better or worse on the classics. Their time has passed. They already made their marks on the charts and in the memories of people like me who were in High School and attending the Escape and Frontiers concerts. I have Escape on 8-track, cd, sacd and Mini-disc. Perry's voice is the only one I will associate with those songs. You younger peeps like Gideon are in a different boat altogether. Since it wasn't new when you initially heard it, I don't think you can completely understand the attachment to it that some of us have it when it first came out, When the videos were on MTV every day and you couldn't wait to hear the next release on the radio.
It's probably the same for people who discovered Journey when Augeri came on board. To them, it doesn't matter if he was the weaker singer amongst the three, he is one attached to their memories so he will be preferred by them most of the time. It's just the way it is.
I know there are some here who will say they have been fans since the 70's and it's all about the music and not the singer and that's fine.
I don't roll that way though, and never will. I will judge each of them by their own original material and that's that. I don't care who wrote what or any of that. It's about which version I heard first and have had embedded into my subconscious. I'm not going to change the soundtrack of my life because the group changed singers, not as long as I can have the version I grew up with available to me.

[WIX]

Okay it has been a couple of hours since my last post on this thread.

I am back IN! I am aboard and ready for anything and everything!

anybody got some bottlecaps and pixie sticks and a straw?

Coors Cutter please! with a side of diet crack!

[Jubilee]

I won't lie, It's all about Perry for me, when it comes to the classics, and all about Augeri when it comes to Arrival and Generations. I'll only judge Arnel on Revelation material. I don't care if Arnel sounds better or worse on the classics. Their time has passed. They already made their marks on the charts and in the memories of people like me who were in High School and attending the Escape and Frontiers concerts. I have Escape on 8-track, cd, sacd and Mini-disc. Perry's voice is the only one I will associate with those songs. You younger peeps like Gideon are in a different boat altogether. Since it wasn't new when you initially heard it, I don't think you can completely understand the attachment to it that some of us have it when it first came out, When the videos were on MTV every day and you couldn't wait to hear the next release on the radio.
It's probably the same for people who discovered Journey when Augeri came on board. To them, it doesn't matter if he was the weaker singer amongst the three, he is one attached to their memories so he will be preferred by them most of the time. It's just the way it is.
I know there are some here who will say they have been fans since the 70's and it's all about the music and not the singer and that's fine.
I don't roll that way though, and never will. I will judge each of them by their own original material and that's that. I don't care who wrote what or any of that. It's about which version I heard first and have had embedded into my subconscious. I'm not going to change the soundtrack of my life because the group changed singers, not as long as I can have the version I grew up with available to me.

+1

[Jana]

I'm really into Arrival these days. I can't discuss Perry right now.

Although, I did listen to One More this morning on the way to work. I absolutely love that song. The whole band sounds great. They should play it at the festival with the heavier rock bands.

[Jana]

I won't lie, It's all about Perry for me, when it comes to the classics, and all about Augeri when it comes to Arrival and Generations. I'll only judge Arnel on Revelation material. I don't care if Arnel sounds better or worse on the classics. Their time has passed. They already made their marks on the charts and in the memories of people like me who were in High School and attending the Escape and Frontiers concerts. I have Escape on 8-track, cd, sacd and Mini-disc. Perry's voice is the only one I will associate with those songs. You younger peeps like Gideon are in a different boat altogether. Since it wasn't new when you initially heard it, I don't think you can completely understand the attachment to it that some of us have it when it first came out, When the videos were on MTV every day and you couldn't wait to hear the next release on the radio.
It's probably the same for people who discovered Journey when Augeri came on board. To them, it doesn't matter if he was the weaker singer amongst the three, he is one attached to their memories so he will be preferred by them most of the time. It's just the way it is.
I know there are some here who will say they have been fans since the 70's and it's all about the music and not the singer and that's fine.
I don't roll that way though, and never will. I will judge each of them by their own original material and that's that. I don't care who wrote what or any of that. It's about which version I heard first and have had embedded into my subconscious. I'm not going to change the soundtrack of my life because the group changed singers, not as long as I can have the version I grew up with available to me.

+1

Great post, Gunbot.

[Rockindeano]

OK, let's see where we stand. A very simple poll. Only 2 choices needed.

Will SP release new material in 2009? Easy question. YES or NO?

Whadda ya think?

no...after listening to tbf again...i doubt it, after 12 years...i don't think so!

Shut your piehole, tramp.

you shut up...you don't know anything except you're a loudmouth...listen to tbf (not on your transistor radio)...and see how sp struggles to reach those high notes despite spending all those long hours in the studio just to produce a mediocre album...sp is done but he was the best in his prime. he's done and so are you!

Aww, so you know that SP was "done" in the TBF era huh? You think for a minute, he was "gasping for air" and "breathing deeply" because he couldn't sing the material? You stupid asshole. Had they wanted, Kevin and Steve himself, they could have erased those breaths, but in my opinion, and that's all this is, is they were left in for artistic beauty. They make the songs sound sincere and real. SP doesn't "struggle" with anything, and never has. He isn't stupid. He wouldn't release the fucking song or CD if that were the case. Struggling is what Augeri did in his latter years on tour and struggle is what Pineda did in his early tour dates. Perry never "struggled" on anything. He cracked a few times, and yes I have the boots to prove it, and I like that..shows he is human, but those boots I have were from the long lasting frontiers tour and that motherfucker was a daunting tour to say the least. You are a fucking imbecile.

You will never get over on me.

[journel]

[/quote] Perry never "struggled" on anything. He cracked a few times...[/quote]

now...don't tell you're steve perry...never struggled, really!

[Rockindeano]

Perry never "struggled" on anything. He cracked a few times...

now...don't tell you're steve perry...never struggled, really!

Here's the deal. On any boot that anyone has, Perry did not "struggle." How do I know? Because I heard em all. On any recorded disc released to the public, Perry sounded great, and never struggled.

I see you are an Arnel Only, and you want to tangle. Good, I am in the mood to throw down. I gotta tell ya however, you do your guy more harm than good, by being so fucking stupid and myopic. Go look that word up and get back to me. I'll wait.

[Deacon]

Lol, Deano. You can't make an argument without deciding to insult someone, can you?

[Rockindeano]

Lol, Deano. You can't make an argument without deciding to insult someone, can you?

You are fucking annoying.

[sadie65]

Lol, Deano. You can't make an argument without deciding to insult someone, can you?

You are fucking annoying.

*

[journel]

Perry never "struggled" on anything. He cracked a few times...

now...don't tell you're steve perry...never struggled, really!

Here's the deal. On any boot that anyone has, Perry did not "struggle." How do I know? Because I heard em all. On any recorded disc released to the public, Perry sounded great, and never struggled.

I see you are an Arnel Only, and you want to tangle. Good, I am in the mood to throw down. I gotta tell ya however, you do your guy more harm than good, by being so fucking stupid and myopic. Go look that word up and get back to me. I'll wait.

i won't stoop down to your level...foul mouth!

[Deacon]

Lol, Deano. You can't make an argument without deciding to insult someone, can you?

You are fucking annoying.

You can't even make an argument at all. That isn't surprising, though, considering every single confrontation that we've encountered thus far has ended this same way: you cursing at me and stomping off in a huff.

[artist4perry]

Kind of a useless poll. If he does he does, if he doesn't, he doesn't.

Sorry if my world does not revolve over a release of music.

I love the man's singing, but if he doesn't come back, amazingly enough I can carry on with my life well in tact, and without loosing my mind. If he comes back, I will have some great music to hear, and maybe a great concert to attend if he does a tour.

Either way I will carry on, and I hope he does as well, healthy, happy, and unconcerned about the sky is falling nonsense on music threads.

[Gideon]

Lol, Deano. You can't make an argument without deciding to insult someone, can you?

You are fucking annoying.

Point proven?