Tuning Down {its about time}

[brywool]

I know. I just used the acronym as a means of jabbing him. Journey isn't god, Steve Perry was a narcissistic ass, but one of (if not the) finest singer in pop/rock music history. But I do love S.A.

That's the beauty of this board, ain't it? We can all have our own preferences and co-exist and discuss them whether we agree or not. Here's where I come from... I love melodic rock and Journey is one of my favorite melodic rock bands. I love all the singers and everything they've contributed to the history of the band. But they aren't a sports team and people fighting over them, or arguing anything regarding Journey to the point that someone gets hurt or ticked off is ridiculous.

I love the music from all eras, and support and appreciate all the singers. Each one contributed something that brought me a lot of enjoyment at some point, whether jamming in the car or rocking out at a show. I do have to admit that I have a special appreciation for Augeri, Soto and Arnel because of the challenges each had in fronting the band, and also because I've met each of them and they are all top notch people. Hope to meet Steve Perry someday too, and am looking forward to new music from him just as Arnel is.

The behavior of the idjits speaks for itself.

Love your Av Rick.

Do you want to be Filipino too? After living there for a few years, I appreciate being American even more and so do a lot of them apparently as there is no shortage of Pinoys waiting for Greencards.

AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAAAAAANNN!

who cares where someone's from? A lot of Americans emigrate to other places in the world too. Big deal...

[Don]

I know. I just used the acronym as a means of jabbing him. Journey isn't god, Steve Perry was a narcissistic ass, but one of (if not the) finest singer in pop/rock music history. But I do love S.A.

That's the beauty of this board, ain't it? We can all have our own preferences and co-exist and discuss them whether we agree or not. Here's where I come from... I love melodic rock and Journey is one of my favorite melodic rock bands. I love all the singers and everything they've contributed to the history of the band. But they aren't a sports team and people fighting over them, or arguing anything regarding Journey to the point that someone gets hurt or ticked off is ridiculous.

I love the music from all eras, and support and appreciate all the singers. Each one contributed something that brought me a lot of enjoyment at some point, whether jamming in the car or rocking out at a show. I do have to admit that I have a special appreciation for Augeri, Soto and Arnel because of the challenges each had in fronting the band, and also because I've met each of them and they are all top notch people. Hope to meet Steve Perry someday too, and am looking forward to new music from him just as Arnel is.

The behavior of the idjits speaks for itself.

Love your Av Rick.

Do you want to be Filipino too? After living there for a few years, I appreciate being American even more and so do a lot of them apparently as there is no shortage of Pinoys waiting for Greencards.

AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAAAAAANNN!

who cares where someone's from? A lot of Americans emigrate to other places in the world too. Big deal...

Since you seemed to be acknowledging Pinoy Power, I was just checking.

[brywool]

I know. I just used the acronym as a means of jabbing him. Journey isn't god, Steve Perry was a narcissistic ass, but one of (if not the) finest singer in pop/rock music history. But I do love S.A.

That's the beauty of this board, ain't it? We can all have our own preferences and co-exist and discuss them whether we agree or not. Here's where I come from... I love melodic rock and Journey is one of my favorite melodic rock bands. I love all the singers and everything they've contributed to the history of the band. But they aren't a sports team and people fighting over them, or arguing anything regarding Journey to the point that someone gets hurt or ticked off is ridiculous.

I love the music from all eras, and support and appreciate all the singers. Each one contributed something that brought me a lot of enjoyment at some point, whether jamming in the car or rocking out at a show. I do have to admit that I have a special appreciation for Augeri, Soto and Arnel because of the challenges each had in fronting the band, and also because I've met each of them and they are all top notch people. Hope to meet Steve Perry someday too, and am looking forward to new music from him just as Arnel is.

The behavior of the idjits speaks for itself.

Love your Av Rick.

Do you want to be Filipino too? After living there for a few years, I appreciate being American even more and so do a lot of them apparently as there is no shortage of Pinoys waiting for Greencards.

AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAAAAAANNN!

who cares where someone's from? A lot of Americans emigrate to other places in the world too. Big deal...

Since you seemed to be acknowledging Pinoy Power, I was just checking.

Ugh... okay. I think it's cool that he did that because of the dickwads that give Arnel a bad time simply because of where he's from. It's ridiculous, immature, and distasteful to me, especially when discussing music. It's irrelevant.

[Don]

I know. I just used the acronym as a means of jabbing him. Journey isn't god, Steve Perry was a narcissistic ass, but one of (if not the) finest singer in pop/rock music history. But I do love S.A.

That's the beauty of this board, ain't it? We can all have our own preferences and co-exist and discuss them whether we agree or not. Here's where I come from... I love melodic rock and Journey is one of my favorite melodic rock bands. I love all the singers and everything they've contributed to the history of the band. But they aren't a sports team and people fighting over them, or arguing anything regarding Journey to the point that someone gets hurt or ticked off is ridiculous.

I love the music from all eras, and support and appreciate all the singers. Each one contributed something that brought me a lot of enjoyment at some point, whether jamming in the car or rocking out at a show. I do have to admit that I have a special appreciation for Augeri, Soto and Arnel because of the challenges each had in fronting the band, and also because I've met each of them and they are all top notch people. Hope to meet Steve Perry someday too, and am looking forward to new music from him just as Arnel is.

The behavior of the idjits speaks for itself.

Love your Av Rick.

Do you want to be Filipino too? After living there for a few years, I appreciate being American even more and so do a lot of them apparently as there is no shortage of Pinoys waiting for Greencards.

AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAAAAAANNN!

who cares where someone's from? A lot of Americans emigrate to other places in the world too. Big deal...

Since you seemed to be acknowledging Pinoy Power, I was just checking.

Ugh... okay. I think it's cool that he did that because of the dickwads that give Arnel a bad time simply because of where he's from. It's ridiculous, immature, and distasteful to me, especially when discussing music. It's irrelevant.

I understand why he did it, but It still irked me a s a vet. I'll get over it.

[madsplash]

I know. I just used the acronym as a means of jabbing him. Journey isn't god, Steve Perry was a narcissistic ass, but one of (if not the) finest singer in pop/rock music history. But I do love S.A.

That's the beauty of this board, ain't it? We can all have our own preferences and co-exist and discuss them whether we agree or not. Here's where I come from... I love melodic rock and Journey is one of my favorite melodic rock bands. I love all the singers and everything they've contributed to the history of the band. But they aren't a sports team and people fighting over them, or arguing anything regarding Journey to the point that someone gets hurt or ticked off is ridiculous.

I love the music from all eras, and support and appreciate all the singers. Each one contributed something that brought me a lot of enjoyment at some point, whether jamming in the car or rocking out at a show. I do have to admit that I have a special appreciation for Augeri, Soto and Arnel because of the challenges each had in fronting the band, and also because I've met each of them and they are all top notch people. Hope to meet Steve Perry someday too, and am looking forward to new music from him just as Arnel is.

The behavior of the idjits speaks for itself.

Love your Av Rick.

Do you want to be Filipino too? After living there for a few years, I appreciate being American even more and so do a lot of them apparently as there is no shortage of Pinoys waiting for Greencards.

AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAAAAAANNN!

who cares where someone's from? A lot of Americans emigrate to other places in the world too. Big deal...

Since you seemed to be acknowledging Pinoy Power, I was just checking.

Ugh... okay. I think it's cool that he did that because of the dickwads that give Arnel a bad time simply because of where he's from. It's ridiculous, immature, and distasteful to me, especially when discussing music. It's irrelevant.

I don't care WHERE he's from, it's that he can't speak the original language of the songs well enough for my taste. And he doesn't seem to be getting better at it, IMO.

[skinsguy]

Whoa. Way to fail Logic 101.

That could be a reason. But as Brywool has been shouting from the rooftops on deaf ears ad infinitum, it could simply be a precaution. Look at Arnel's concert in Manila; he'd just got back from 2-3 shows in Tokyo for a 25 song set and nailed it without difficulty.

But there's no reason to conclude beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is the exact reason.

As for Augeri, I was listening to "Eternal Light" and "Faith in the Heartland" recently, and the bastard has grown on me. I actually think, though his voice isn't nearly as strong as Arnel's, I prefer his tone.

It's not really illogical to assume a vocalist is having vocal issues if the songs he is singing live in a certain key has to be de-tuned into a lower key to make it more comfortable for him to sing. Even if it is a precautionary move, it still speaks volumes on how high Steve Perry placed the bar on anyone who would step into his shoes as vocalist of Journey. While 1/2 step down really isn't THAT much, it still is 1/2 step down. Lord knows if we were talking about Steve Perry doing that, people would crucify him for singing Journey songs 1/2 step down. Believe me, I've read it here in the past.

Speaking of Steve Augeri, I LOVE the tone of his voice. I definitely prefer his version of FITH over Arnel's any day of the week. I think what I loved mostly about Augeri was, his voice worked in Journey, but it was different than Perry's. I can enjoy listening to Journey with both Steve Perry and Steve Augeri as if they were two separate bands.

[skinsguy]

I don't care WHERE he's from, it's that he can't speak the original language of the songs well enough for my taste. And he doesn't seem to be getting better at it, IMO.

Not to rehash old arguments and be labeled a bigot or racist (like I know some here can easily and so often do) but that's my sentiments. I think Arnel has a great voice, great tone, much like Perry's. However, I felt the re-records were horrible. I couldn't understand half of the lyrics, and from a fan standpoint, it was pointless to re-record those songs. Even when REO Speedwagon re-recorded Hi-Fidelity (live) for their last box set, I thought that was a pointless move. I've listened to the re-record of that record once, and that was enough for me.

[madsplash]

I don't care WHERE he's from, it's that he can't speak the original language of the songs well enough for my taste. And he doesn't seem to be getting better at it, IMO.

Not to rehash old arguments and be labeled a bigot or racist (like I know some here can easily and so often do) but that's my sentiments. I think Arnel has a great voice, great tone, much like Perry's. However, I felt the re-records were horrible. I couldn't understand half of the lyrics, and from a fan standpoint, it was pointless to re-record those songs. Even when REO Speedwagon re-recorded Hi-Fidelity (live) for their last box set, I thought that was a pointless move. I've listened to the re-record of that record once, and that was enough for me.

That's not being racist. Just because someone doesn't prefer to hear Journey songs sung with his accent, that sure as hell doesn't make them a biggot.

And the band did the re-records beacuse Wal-Mart said that was the only way they would do the new record. They had no choice.

[brywool]

I know. I just used the acronym as a means of jabbing him. Journey isn't god, Steve Perry was a narcissistic ass, but one of (if not the) finest singer in pop/rock music history. But I do love S.A.

That's the beauty of this board, ain't it? We can all have our own preferences and co-exist and discuss them whether we agree or not. Here's where I come from... I love melodic rock and Journey is one of my favorite melodic rock bands. I love all the singers and everything they've contributed to the history of the band. But they aren't a sports team and people fighting over them, or arguing anything regarding Journey to the point that someone gets hurt or ticked off is ridiculous.

I love the music from all eras, and support and appreciate all the singers. Each one contributed something that brought me a lot of enjoyment at some point, whether jamming in the car or rocking out at a show. I do have to admit that I have a special appreciation for Augeri, Soto and Arnel because of the challenges each had in fronting the band, and also because I've met each of them and they are all top notch people. Hope to meet Steve Perry someday too, and am looking forward to new music from him just as Arnel is.

The behavior of the idjits speaks for itself.

Love your Av Rick.

Do you want to be Filipino too? After living there for a few years, I appreciate being American even more and so do a lot of them apparently as there is no shortage of Pinoys waiting for Greencards.

AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAAAAAANNN!

who cares where someone's from? A lot of Americans emigrate to other places in the world too. Big deal...

Since you seemed to be acknowledging Pinoy Power, I was just checking.

Ugh... okay. I think it's cool that he did that because of the dickwads that give Arnel a bad time simply because of where he's from. It's ridiculous, immature, and distasteful to me, especially when discussing music. It's irrelevant.

I understand why he did it, but It still irked me a s a vet. I'll get over it.

well, it shouldn't irk you. There's room for everyone here, or for F*** sake, there should be. If the av said "Al Queda Pride" or "Nazi Pride", then you'd have a point. We're talking about music here not political or ethnocentric dominance.

I just don't get that mind set GB. By the way, thanks for your service. I meant no disrespect, but I really do think that the 'Rah Rah America' (or insert any other country here) stuff doesn't have a lot of place when talking about music. Sorry if that offends you.

[Don]

I know. I just used the acronym as a means of jabbing him. Journey isn't god, Steve Perry was a narcissistic ass, but one of (if not the) finest singer in pop/rock music history. But I do love S.A.

That's the beauty of this board, ain't it? We can all have our own preferences and co-exist and discuss them whether we agree or not. Here's where I come from... I love melodic rock and Journey is one of my favorite melodic rock bands. I love all the singers and everything they've contributed to the history of the band. But they aren't a sports team and people fighting over them, or arguing anything regarding Journey to the point that someone gets hurt or ticked off is ridiculous.

I love the music from all eras, and support and appreciate all the singers. Each one contributed something that brought me a lot of enjoyment at some point, whether jamming in the car or rocking out at a show. I do have to admit that I have a special appreciation for Augeri, Soto and Arnel because of the challenges each had in fronting the band, and also because I've met each of them and they are all top notch people. Hope to meet Steve Perry someday too, and am looking forward to new music from him just as Arnel is.

The behavior of the idjits speaks for itself.

Love your Av Rick.

Do you want to be Filipino too? After living there for a few years, I appreciate being American even more and so do a lot of them apparently as there is no shortage of Pinoys waiting for Greencards.

AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAAAAAANNN!

who cares where someone's from? A lot of Americans emigrate to other places in the world too. Big deal...

Since you seemed to be acknowledging Pinoy Power, I was just checking.

Ugh... okay. I think it's cool that he did that because of the dickwads that give Arnel a bad time simply because of where he's from. It's ridiculous, immature, and distasteful to me, especially when discussing music. It's irrelevant.

I understand why he did it, but It still irked me a s a vet. I'll get over it.

well, it shouldn't irk you. There's room for everyone here, or for F*** sake, there should be. If the av said "Al Queda Pride" or "Nazi Pride", then you'd have a point. We're talking about music here not political or ethnocentric dominance.

I just don't get that mind set GB. By the way, thanks for your service. I meant no disrespect, but I really do think that the 'Rah Rah America' (or insert any other country here) stuff doesn't have a lot of place when talking about music. Sorry if that offends you.

It doesn't, that's why I said what I said. If it was a Filipino person who had it in their A/V, i wouldn't have said anything, and even then I didn't say anything until your comment. It's water under the bridge now.

[brywool]

I don't care WHERE he's from, it's that he can't speak the original language of the songs well enough for my taste. And he doesn't seem to be getting better at it, IMO.

I disagree with you and I think that you see everything through "Perry filter". The guy's not going to sound like Steve Perry just like he's not going to sound like Augeri, or...anyone. It's pretty apparent from your posts MS that you will never tolerate anyone other than your boy singing these songs. So I'm not really sure why you comment on Arnel other than to further say "he's not Steve Perry". Duh.


The 'imperfections' in his accent on the re-records are minute to say the least. The Superbowl, I'll concede. It was not a good 'language performance'. It was also ONE song. I saw several others from that show that weren't bad and I've heard the Manilla and other Asian Tour Youtubes and am delighted with what I'm hearing.

[brywool]

It doesn't, that's why I said what I said. If it was a Filipino person who had it in their A/V, i wouldn't have said anything, and even then I didn't say anything until your comment. It's water under the bridge now.

Maybe he should change it to "Arnel Pride"

[Don]

It doesn't, that's why I said what I said. If it was a Filipino person who had it in their A/V, i wouldn't have said anything, and even then I didn't say anything until your comment. It's water under the bridge now.

Maybe he should change it to "Arnel Pride"

That would have been perfect.

[mdaemon]

I know. I just used the acronym as a means of jabbing him. Journey isn't god, Steve Perry was a narcissistic ass, but one of (if not the) finest singer in pop/rock music history. But I do love S.A.

That's the beauty of this board, ain't it? We can all have our own preferences and co-exist and discuss them whether we agree or not. Here's where I come from... I love melodic rock and Journey is one of my favorite melodic rock bands. I love all the singers and everything they've contributed to the history of the band. But they aren't a sports team and people fighting over them, or arguing anything regarding Journey to the point that someone gets hurt or ticked off is ridiculous.

I love the music from all eras, and support and appreciate all the singers. Each one contributed something that brought me a lot of enjoyment at some point, whether jamming in the car or rocking out at a show. I do have to admit that I have a special appreciation for Augeri, Soto and Arnel because of the challenges each had in fronting the band, and also because I've met each of them and they are all top notch people. Hope to meet Steve Perry someday too, and am looking forward to new music from him just as Arnel is.

The behavior of the idjits speaks for itself.

Love your Av Rick.

Do you want to be Filipino too? After living there for a few years, I appreciate being American even more and so do a lot of them apparently as there is no shortage of Pinoys waiting for Greencards.

AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAAAAAANNN!

who cares where someone's from? A lot of Americans emigrate to other places in the world too. Big deal...

Since you seemed to be acknowledging Pinoy Power, I was just checking.

Ugh... okay. I think it's cool that he did that because of the dickwads that give Arnel a bad time simply because of where he's from. It's ridiculous, immature, and distasteful to me, especially when discussing music. It's irrelevant.

I don't care WHERE he's from, it's that he can't speak the original language of the songs well enough for my taste. And he doesn't seem to be getting better at it, IMO.

That's fair enough dude. Although if you're like Liam who's still watching the Chile clips, then it may be time to watch Journey's recent gigs as Arnel has improved a lot with his enunciation and his accent (according to some Americans here) is becoming less distracting. It may be worth seeing him live as well as he is much much better live.

[mdaemon]

It doesn't, that's why I said what I said. If it was a Filipino person who had it in their A/V, i wouldn't have said anything, and even then I didn't say anything until your comment. It's water under the bridge now.

Maybe he should change it to "Arnel Pride"

It would've been funny if Rip chose "Pinoy Pride". To find out why, go to www.google.com, type "Pinoy pride", and then click on "I'm feeling lucky"



...just for the record, I don't go to that website

[Jana]

It doesn't, that's why I said what I said. If it was a Filipino person who had it in their A/V, i wouldn't have said anything, and even then I didn't say anything until your comment. It's water under the bridge now.

Maybe he should change it to "Arnel Pride"

It would've been funny if Rip chose "Pinoy Pride". To find out why, go to www.google.com, type "Pinoy pride", and then click on "I'm feeling lucky"



...just for the record, I don't go to that website

Of course, you don't. You only know exactly how to tell Rip to find it. Just kidding - I think.

[mdaemon]

It doesn't, that's why I said what I said. If it was a Filipino person who had it in their A/V, i wouldn't have said anything, and even then I didn't say anything until your comment. It's water under the bridge now.

Maybe he should change it to "Arnel Pride"

It would've been funny if Rip chose "Pinoy Pride". To find out why, go to www.google.com, type "Pinoy pride", and then click on "I'm feeling lucky"



...just for the record, I don't go to that website

Of course, you don't. You only know exactly how to tell Rip to find it. Just kidding - I think.

shush!

[Aaron]

Yep, and it sounds like shit. The songs loose their edge a half step down and don't have as much punch. I won't be seeing them this year if they continue. Shit, I'll just go see Hugo in Evolution instead. Actually, after seeing Valentine last Friday night, I'm not sure I need to see Journey again. Valentine was fucking awesome ... and it wasn't down a half step.

Only The Young was tuned down 1/2 step,nothin wrong with it,they should have down it years ago,Journey is finally getting real http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iQ5n8cI904

[Gideon]

It's not really illogical to assume a vocalist is having vocal issues if the songs he is singing live in a certain key has to be de-tuned into a lower key to make it more comfortable for him to sing. Even if it is a precautionary move, it still speaks volumes on how high Steve Perry placed the bar on anyone who would step into his shoes as vocalist of Journey. While 1/2 step down really isn't THAT much, it still is 1/2 step down. Lord knows if we were talking about Steve Perry doing that, people would crucify him for singing Journey songs 1/2 step down. Believe me, I've read it here in the past.

That's just the issue, actually. This catalogue is, apparently, one of the hardest in popular music. Perry's own voice is testament. Not even the Master can sing it unadulterated and unfettered. Next time someone starts fellating Freddie Mercury versus Steve Perry, I'm going to have to throw that in the collective face of the Queen fan brigade.

Speaking of Steve Augeri, I LOVE the tone of his voice. I definitely prefer his version of FITH over Arnel's any day of the week. I think what I loved mostly about Augeri was, his voice worked in Journey, but it was different than Perry's. I can enjoy listening to Journey with both Steve Perry and Steve Augeri as if they were two separate bands.

Yeah, I can't stand Arnel's version of "Faith in the Heartland." Not because he does a terrible job vocally, but because the song is slower, there's no rhythm guitar, and Jonathan was apparently testing his ability to play the piano with his dick for the duration of the song.

But, yeah, Augeri's tone is as appealing to me as Perry's. Shame we can't combine Arnel and Augeri into some sort of Frankenstein-like creation. Augeri definitely lacks Arnel's power, stamina, and athleticism. But I also didn't mind Augeri's more subdued showmanship. I dunno. Bottom line? Love Augeri's studio performances.

[Aaron]

It does sound like shit dude, listen to it. As for fuckhead Elliot, I hope he does shit his pants. Oops, no, they use tapes or singers behind the scenes to cover his ass. He sounded like shit last year in Indy and has surely lost his range. The tapes hitting the high notes sounded good though.

Jesus H. Christ it's only 1/2 step folks. There's no possible way it sounds 'dull' or that it 'drags'. It's the same EQ and same preprogrammed tempo. Remember they are tracking every song - so the tempo is the same night after night and year after year. It's all computerized as far as detuning the keyboards and the canned vocals. Ross and Neals techs tune down a half step on the guitars and that's it. Bryan Adams has been doing it the last few years as well. I don't know if Def Leppard is doing it yet but they should before Joe Elliott shits his pants trying to hit the old high notes.

[FishinMagician]

has anyone else noticed that neal has way more than normal " mess ups" and they seem to be him playing the licks just a half step off
examples : never walk away http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccR3fomAbhg
what i needed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rwYrDVHIY4

anyways who thinks this is because they are playing half step down and his mind is thinking one pitch but it should be playing the other

[Gideon]

You people.

If they don't take this precaution, you'd all be bitching that his voice was shot. I think it still sounds good, though they need to turn off the taped keyboard outro for "Wildest Dream."

[mdaemon]

You people.

If they don't take this precaution, you'd all be bitching that his voice was shot. I think it still sounds good, though they need to turn off the taped keyboard outro for "Wildest Dream."

....and that they toured him to death
......and that they never learn their lessons after Perry and Augeri
.......and that they don't know how to take care of their singers because they think that a voice is like a guitar that can easily be replaced when it breaks

[Don]

As I said already, on the older stuff do what you want, chuck it you have to and go with ROR or TBF, people will probaby think TBF is new music anyway. But on Revelation songs, there should be no change ups. The album's only 10 months old for christ sake.

[Jana]

You people.

If they don't take this precaution, you'd all be bitching that his voice was shot. I think it still sounds good, though they need to turn off the taped keyboard outro for "Wildest Dream."

....and that they toured him to death
......and that they never learn their lessons after Perry and Augeri
.......and that they don't know how to take care of their singers because they think that a voice is like a guitar that can easily be replaced when it breaks

Poor Neal and Jon can't win. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

[Jana]

As I said already, on the older stuff do what you want, chuck it you have to and go with ROR or TBF, people will probaby think TBF is new music anyway. But on Revelation songs, there should be no change ups. The album's only 10 months old for christ sake.

I agree if possible, but I don't know. Maybe they have to do it across the board a half step down. I don't know anything about such things.

[Don]

So what's the verdict on TDTWT? It was being pushed by all of us to be the next single. Now that it made an appearance at the Manila show, is that it? What's the story, did they sing it in Hawaii at all?

[mdaemon]

So what's the verdict on TDTWT? It was being pushed by all of us to be the next single. Now that it made an appearance at the Manila show, is that it? What's the story, did they sing it in Hawaii at all?

...I dunno, it's gay ass ballad isn't it

[Rick]

So what's the verdict on TDTWT? It was being pushed by all of us to be the next single. Now that it made an appearance at the Manila show, is that it? What's the story, did they sing it in Hawaii at all?

...I dunno, it's gay ass ballad isn't it

I think it's a great song.

[mdaemon]

So what's the verdict on TDTWT? It was being pushed by all of us to be the next single. Now that it made an appearance at the Manila show, is that it? What's the story, did they sing it in Hawaii at all?

...I dunno, it's gay ass ballad isn't it

I think it's a great song.

It is.

I'm just messing up with GB.