I stand alone....

[Gideon]

No, Should have made myself more clear.......sorry Giddeon, late night last night and little sleep.

What I meant was his voice to me sounded great on the TBF album as well. To me the notes were deeper but beautiful. I was wondering if you were of the mindset of some that feel unless Perry is breaking glass with his notes, or that if he has a rasp at all to his voice that he cannot sing.

I disagree with that notion. I feel that as you grow older your voice changes, but sometimes in a good way. I loved early and later Perry music. Not just because of the LOON thing, but just because I can appreciate both styles of his voice. Younger and higher, and older and deeper.

Don't worry about it.

For the record, Steve Perry's finest vocal epoch was from 1983 - 1994. I don't know if I would accredit that to the infamous "rasp" or the fact that his voice sounded stronger; he could still hit some impressive high notes even at that point, but there was a more soulful, perhaps, soothing quality at that point that his Escape-era shrieks couldn't match.

Trial By Fire is, easily, my favorite album. But it was one of Perry's weaker ones. Did he sound bad? No. His skill is such that, especially in a studio album, I doubt he would ever sound "bad." But his range and power were demonstrably stunted; fortunately, I think he recognized this (though may not have admitted it) and so the whole album was laced with vocal harmonies from the rest of the band. That is to say that I felt that Steve Augeri and Arnel Pineda have both delivered far, far, far greater vocal performances than much of Perry's last outing with the band.

However, what made that album so brilliant is that it no longer was about Perry. It wasn't even about Perry and Neal Schon. It was about the band as a whole. "Still She Cries" is a powerhouse performance, but the general consensus that Jon Cain was MVP. ProgRocker has written many a thesis on how Ross Valory's bass workout steals the show on "One More." And, for example, TBF is the album where I finally believed Steve Smith's reputation as a badass drummer; before, it seemed like Neal and Perry were controlling the band as a whole, forcing Smith, Cain, and Ross to fade somewhat into the background.

Simply put, TBF was brilliant because Perry either took it upon himself or was forced to by the "limitations" of his voice to accept that he was no longer enough to "hog the spotlight." And because of it, the music matured and the band as a whole was at top level.

Nicely put........ever thought about going into law?

Breaking it or enforcing it?

By the way, my favorite Journey song of all time is "If He Should Break Your Heart." In no small part to Mr. Perry, as well.

[artist4perry]

No, Should have made myself more clear.......sorry Giddeon, late night last night and little sleep.

What I meant was his voice to me sounded great on the TBF album as well. To me the notes were deeper but beautiful. I was wondering if you were of the mindset of some that feel unless Perry is breaking glass with his notes, or that if he has a rasp at all to his voice that he cannot sing.

I disagree with that notion. I feel that as you grow older your voice changes, but sometimes in a good way. I loved early and later Perry music. Not just because of the LOON thing, but just because I can appreciate both styles of his voice. Younger and higher, and older and deeper.

Don't worry about it.

For the record, Steve Perry's finest vocal epoch was from 1983 - 1994. I don't know if I would accredit that to the infamous "rasp" or the fact that his voice sounded stronger; he could still hit some impressive high notes even at that point, but there was a more soulful, perhaps, soothing quality at that point that his Escape-era shrieks couldn't match.

Trial By Fire is, easily, my favorite album. But it was one of Perry's weaker ones. Did he sound bad? No. His skill is such that, especially in a studio album, I doubt he would ever sound "bad." But his range and power were demonstrably stunted; fortunately, I think he recognized this (though may not have admitted it) and so the whole album was laced with vocal harmonies from the rest of the band. That is to say that I felt that Steve Augeri and Arnel Pineda have both delivered far, far, far greater vocal performances than much of Perry's last outing with the band.

However, what made that album so brilliant is that it no longer was about Perry. It wasn't even about Perry and Neal Schon. It was about the band as a whole. "Still She Cries" is a powerhouse performance, but the general consensus that Jon Cain was MVP. ProgRocker has written many a thesis on how Ross Valory's bass workout steals the show on "One More." And, for example, TBF is the album where I finally believed Steve Smith's reputation as a badass drummer; before, it seemed like Neal and Perry were controlling the band as a whole, forcing Smith, Cain, and Ross to fade somewhat into the background.

Simply put, TBF was brilliant because Perry either took it upon himself or was forced to by the "limitations" of his voice to accept that he was no longer enough to "hog the spotlight." And because of it, the music matured and the band as a whole was at top level.

Nicely put........ever thought about going into law?

Breaking it or enforcing it?

By the way, my favorite Journey song of all time is "If He Should Break Your Heart." In no small part to Mr. Perry, as well.

Practicing it.

Great song, one of my favorites, also love Message of love for the textural qualities.

[Gideon]

No, Should have made myself more clear.......sorry Giddeon, late night last night and little sleep.

What I meant was his voice to me sounded great on the TBF album as well. To me the notes were deeper but beautiful. I was wondering if you were of the mindset of some that feel unless Perry is breaking glass with his notes, or that if he has a rasp at all to his voice that he cannot sing.

I disagree with that notion. I feel that as you grow older your voice changes, but sometimes in a good way. I loved early and later Perry music. Not just because of the LOON thing, but just because I can appreciate both styles of his voice. Younger and higher, and older and deeper.

Don't worry about it.

For the record, Steve Perry's finest vocal epoch was from 1983 - 1994. I don't know if I would accredit that to the infamous "rasp" or the fact that his voice sounded stronger; he could still hit some impressive high notes even at that point, but there was a more soulful, perhaps, soothing quality at that point that his Escape-era shrieks couldn't match.

Trial By Fire is, easily, my favorite album. But it was one of Perry's weaker ones. Did he sound bad? No. His skill is such that, especially in a studio album, I doubt he would ever sound "bad." But his range and power were demonstrably stunted; fortunately, I think he recognized this (though may not have admitted it) and so the whole album was laced with vocal harmonies from the rest of the band. That is to say that I felt that Steve Augeri and Arnel Pineda have both delivered far, far, far greater vocal performances than much of Perry's last outing with the band.

However, what made that album so brilliant is that it no longer was about Perry. It wasn't even about Perry and Neal Schon. It was about the band as a whole. "Still She Cries" is a powerhouse performance, but the general consensus that Jon Cain was MVP. ProgRocker has written many a thesis on how Ross Valory's bass workout steals the show on "One More." And, for example, TBF is the album where I finally believed Steve Smith's reputation as a badass drummer; before, it seemed like Neal and Perry were controlling the band as a whole, forcing Smith, Cain, and Ross to fade somewhat into the background.

Simply put, TBF was brilliant because Perry either took it upon himself or was forced to by the "limitations" of his voice to accept that he was no longer enough to "hog the spotlight." And because of it, the music matured and the band as a whole was at top level.

Nicely put........ever thought about going into law?

Breaking it or enforcing it?

By the way, my favorite Journey song of all time is "If He Should Break Your Heart." In no small part to Mr. Perry, as well.

Practicing it.

Great song, one of my favorites, also love Message of love for the textural qualities.

Everyone regards MoL as Separate Ways' cheap hooker of a younger sister, but I actually prefer it.

Does that mean I prefer cheap hookers or younger sisters?

[artist4perry]

No, Should have made myself more clear.......sorry Giddeon, late night last night and little sleep.

What I meant was his voice to me sounded great on the TBF album as well. To me the notes were deeper but beautiful. I was wondering if you were of the mindset of some that feel unless Perry is breaking glass with his notes, or that if he has a rasp at all to his voice that he cannot sing.

I disagree with that notion. I feel that as you grow older your voice changes, but sometimes in a good way. I loved early and later Perry music. Not just because of the LOON thing, but just because I can appreciate both styles of his voice. Younger and higher, and older and deeper.

Don't worry about it.

For the record, Steve Perry's finest vocal epoch was from 1983 - 1994. I don't know if I would accredit that to the infamous "rasp" or the fact that his voice sounded stronger; he could still hit some impressive high notes even at that point, but there was a more soulful, perhaps, soothing quality at that point that his Escape-era shrieks couldn't match.

Trial By Fire is, easily, my favorite album. But it was one of Perry's weaker ones. Did he sound bad? No. His skill is such that, especially in a studio album, I doubt he would ever sound "bad." But his range and power were demonstrably stunted; fortunately, I think he recognized this (though may not have admitted it) and so the whole album was laced with vocal harmonies from the rest of the band. That is to say that I felt that Steve Augeri and Arnel Pineda have both delivered far, far, far greater vocal performances than much of Perry's last outing with the band.

However, what made that album so brilliant is that it no longer was about Perry. It wasn't even about Perry and Neal Schon. It was about the band as a whole. "Still She Cries" is a powerhouse performance, but the general consensus that Jon Cain was MVP. ProgRocker has written many a thesis on how Ross Valory's bass workout steals the show on "One More." And, for example, TBF is the album where I finally believed Steve Smith's reputation as a badass drummer; before, it seemed like Neal and Perry were controlling the band as a whole, forcing Smith, Cain, and Ross to fade somewhat into the background.

Simply put, TBF was brilliant because Perry either took it upon himself or was forced to by the "limitations" of his voice to accept that he was no longer enough to "hog the spotlight." And because of it, the music matured and the band as a whole was at top level.

Nicely put........ever thought about going into law?

Breaking it or enforcing it?

By the way, my favorite Journey song of all time is "If He Should Break Your Heart." In no small part to Mr. Perry, as well.

Practicing it.

Great song, one of my favorites, also love Message of love for the textural qualities.

Everyone regards MoL as Separate Ways' cheap hooker of a younger sister, but I actually prefer it.

Does that mean I prefer cheap hookers or younger sisters?

Maybe younger sisters of cheep hookers................

[Gideon]

No, Should have made myself more clear.......sorry Giddeon, late night last night and little sleep.

What I meant was his voice to me sounded great on the TBF album as well. To me the notes were deeper but beautiful. I was wondering if you were of the mindset of some that feel unless Perry is breaking glass with his notes, or that if he has a rasp at all to his voice that he cannot sing.

I disagree with that notion. I feel that as you grow older your voice changes, but sometimes in a good way. I loved early and later Perry music. Not just because of the LOON thing, but just because I can appreciate both styles of his voice. Younger and higher, and older and deeper.

Don't worry about it.

For the record, Steve Perry's finest vocal epoch was from 1983 - 1994. I don't know if I would accredit that to the infamous "rasp" or the fact that his voice sounded stronger; he could still hit some impressive high notes even at that point, but there was a more soulful, perhaps, soothing quality at that point that his Escape-era shrieks couldn't match.

Trial By Fire is, easily, my favorite album. But it was one of Perry's weaker ones. Did he sound bad? No. His skill is such that, especially in a studio album, I doubt he would ever sound "bad." But his range and power were demonstrably stunted; fortunately, I think he recognized this (though may not have admitted it) and so the whole album was laced with vocal harmonies from the rest of the band. That is to say that I felt that Steve Augeri and Arnel Pineda have both delivered far, far, far greater vocal performances than much of Perry's last outing with the band.

However, what made that album so brilliant is that it no longer was about Perry. It wasn't even about Perry and Neal Schon. It was about the band as a whole. "Still She Cries" is a powerhouse performance, but the general consensus that Jon Cain was MVP. ProgRocker has written many a thesis on how Ross Valory's bass workout steals the show on "One More." And, for example, TBF is the album where I finally believed Steve Smith's reputation as a badass drummer; before, it seemed like Neal and Perry were controlling the band as a whole, forcing Smith, Cain, and Ross to fade somewhat into the background.

Simply put, TBF was brilliant because Perry either took it upon himself or was forced to by the "limitations" of his voice to accept that he was no longer enough to "hog the spotlight." And because of it, the music matured and the band as a whole was at top level.

Nicely put........ever thought about going into law?

Breaking it or enforcing it?

By the way, my favorite Journey song of all time is "If He Should Break Your Heart." In no small part to Mr. Perry, as well.

Practicing it.

Great song, one of my favorites, also love Message of love for the textural qualities.

Everyone regards MoL as Separate Ways' cheap hooker of a younger sister, but I actually prefer it.

Does that mean I prefer cheap hookers or younger sisters?

Maybe younger sisters of cheep hookers................

I like it.

[artist4perry]

Your getting the hang of this place child................good going! I am still learning.

[Monker]

As for speculation on the condition of his voice now and whether or not he'll be able to do a full tour to support the upcoming album, there are more than a few opinions of people who would know, that his voice is the best it's been in many years. Don't know if that means just as far as recording and sounding great, or actually in good enough shape for a lot of live stuff. Who knows? But I'd bet anything, that when something is released, there'll be at least SOME live shows.

The people who have commented on Perry's voice have supposedly heard him in the studio. That is different then being on tour.

The simple fact is that Perry:
Had problems during the ROR tour and refused to schedule the second half of it.
Had even more problems during the FTLOSM tour and canceled, rescheduled shows and eventualy canceled that tour.
Refused to tour for TBf, for whatever reasons you want to believed.

He has not completed a tour in 20yrs...25 if you discount ROR for canceling the second half - which everybody else in the band wanted to do.

His voice got WORSE between ROR and FTLOSM....not touring does not mean a voice does not degrade.

[artist4perry]

As for speculation on the condition of his voice now and whether or not he'll be able to do a full tour to support the upcoming album, there are more than a few opinions of people who would know, that his voice is the best it's been in many years. Don't know if that means just as far as recording and sounding great, or actually in good enough shape for a lot of live stuff. Who knows? But I'd bet anything, that when something is released, there'll be at least SOME live shows.

The people who have commented on Perry's voice have supposedly heard him in the studio. That is different then being on tour.

The simple fact is that Perry:
Had problems during the ROR tour and refused to schedule the second half of it.
Had even more problems during the FTLOSM tour and canceled, rescheduled shows and eventualy canceled that tour.
Refused to tour for TBf, for whatever reasons you want to believed.

He has not completed a tour in 20yrs...25 if you discount ROR for canceling the second half - which everybody else in the band wanted to do.

His voice got WORSE between ROR and FTLOSM....not touring does not mean a voice does not degrade.

Sorry guy.........I saw him personally during the ROR tour. He sounded great the night I saw him, and that was more than halfway into the tour schedule. You have to also take into account the loss of a beloved mother, and just all the stresses on tour. Not to say he did not get burnout.

But I also think the broken hip has to be an issue. I had several friends see him live during the FTLOSM tour. All came back with a positive reveiw. They would have been honest if it was bad. The clips on youtube are great, but because of noise and other problems you never get a true sound. Coming from experiance.

Me thinks you don't like Perry much.........am I reading you wrong?

[Deacon]

I know a lot of you here don't care for this song, but I think it's cool as hell. It's the last song he's sung lead on, and if this is a prelude to the quality of his voice on his future releases...I can definitely live with it!

I was flipping through stuff on youtube tonight, and came across a kick-ass video of Perry discussing the song, then showing clips and a video of him in the studio. I'm sure others have seen it, but I've never seen this before and I think it kicks ass!

Anyone who think's Perry's washed-up is smoking crack. Deacon...you were talking about power and vocal/breath control...listen to one of the last notes in the song, and notice how long he holds that very powerful note...THAT's vocal control.

Hope you enjoy it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sde4Wy9p ... re=related

Lol -- Not Deacon. That was Gideon.

You committed a cardinal sin!!!

[KDOUBLEU]

As for speculation on the condition of his voice now and whether or not he'll be able to do a full tour to support the upcoming album, there are more than a few opinions of people who would know, that his voice is the best it's been in many years. Don't know if that means just as far as recording and sounding great, or actually in good enough shape for a lot of live stuff. Who knows? But I'd bet anything, that when something is released, there'll be at least SOME live shows.

The people who have commented on Perry's voice have supposedly heard him in the studio. That is different then being on tour.

The simple fact is that Perry:
Had problems during the ROR tour and refused to schedule the second half of it.
Had even more problems during the FTLOSM tour and canceled, rescheduled shows and eventualy canceled that tour.
Refused to tour for TBf, for whatever reasons you want to believed.

He has not completed a tour in 20yrs...25 if you discount ROR for canceling the second half - which everybody else in the band wanted to do.

His voice got WORSE between ROR and FTLOSM....not touring does not mean a voice does not degrade.

Isaw Perry on his FTLOSM Tour he sang for over 2hrs with no breaks and he was fantastic!

[annie89509]

We can dream, can't we? In the past, some posters have stated wanting to remember him as he once was ... didn't want to be let down. Actually, being disappointed is not something we have to be worried about. As Steve has said many times, he is his own worst critic. The fact is knowing SP as we all do (as fans, I mean), he would not be out there unless he could deliver. So, I will state emphatically, if there's even 1 show (anywhere in the U.S.), it'll be "Good-bye, family!" and "Hello, Journey fans!" -- for me .

[JRNYFan]

This is a great vocal performance. I prefer this to the very early, crystal clear SP voice. I loved that one too, but from Frontiers, ROR, FTLOSM and this song, his voice has so much more character to it. A little less top end range? Yes, but so what.

The show I saw on the FTLOSM tour, was spectacular. He did the back catalog excellently. A few of the songs were lowered a half step, but I actually liked that better.

Couldn't agree more. Prefer his later vocals too. Can hear much more raw emotion in his delivery. Here's a great version of Stay Awhile from the FTLOSM tour NJ show. I'll take this delivery over his early high range any day!

http://www.yousendit.com/download/UmNLY ... WUtGa1E9PQ

Thanks for posting that, Deb. I don't think I've heard that version before.

[Deb]

No, Should have made myself more clear.......sorry Giddeon, late night last night and little sleep.

What I meant was his voice to me sounded great on the TBF album as well. To me the notes were deeper but beautiful. I was wondering if you were of the mindset of some that feel unless Perry is breaking glass with his notes, or that if he has a rasp at all to his voice that he cannot sing.

I disagree with that notion. I feel that as you grow older your voice changes, but sometimes in a good way. I loved early and later Perry music. Not just because of the LOON thing, but just because I can appreciate both styles of his voice. Younger and higher, and older and deeper.

Don't worry about it.

For the record, Steve Perry's finest vocal epoch was from 1983 - 1994. I don't know if I would accredit that to the infamous "rasp" or the fact that his voice sounded stronger; he could still hit some impressive high notes even at that point, but there was a more soulful, perhaps, soothing quality at that point that his Escape-era shrieks couldn't match.

Trial By Fire is, easily, my favorite album. But it was one of Perry's weaker ones. Did he sound bad? No. His skill is such that, especially in a studio album, I doubt he would ever sound "bad." But his range and power were demonstrably stunted; fortunately, I think he recognized this (though may not have admitted it) and so the whole album was laced with vocal harmonies from the rest of the band. That is to say that I felt that Steve Augeri and Arnel Pineda have both delivered far, far, far greater vocal performances than much of Perry's last outing with the band.

However, what made that album so brilliant is that it no longer was about Perry. It wasn't even about Perry and Neal Schon. It was about the band as a whole. "Still She Cries" is a powerhouse performance, but the general consensus that Jon Cain was MVP. ProgRocker has written many a thesis on how Ross Valory's bass workout steals the show on "One More." And, for example, TBF is the album where I finally believed Steve Smith's reputation as a badass drummer; before, it seemed like Neal and Perry were controlling the band as a whole, forcing Smith, Cain, and Ross to fade somewhat into the background.

Simply put, TBF was brilliant because Perry either took it upon himself or was forced to by the "limitations" of his voice to accept that he was no longer enough to "hog the spotlight." And because of it, the music matured and the band as a whole was at top level.

Nicely put........ever thought about going into law?

Breaking it or enforcing it?

By the way, my favorite Journey song of all time is "If He Should Break Your Heart." In no small part to Mr. Perry, as well.

Practicing it.

Great song, one of my favorites, also love Message of love for the textural qualities.

Everyone regards MoL as Separate Ways' cheap hooker of a younger sister, but I actually prefer it.

Does that mean I prefer cheap hookers or younger sisters?

Maybe younger sisters of cheep hookers................

I like it.

Wow, confused. Is this Gideon or Alan Shore?

You're welcome JRNYfan.

[Gideon]

:lol: Wow, confused. Is this Gideon or Alan Shore?

We have more in common than you may think.

[Monker]

Sorry guy.........I saw him personally during the ROR tour. He sounded great the night I saw him, and that was more than halfway into the tour schedule.

I really don't care. The FACT is that he canceled a bunch of shows, and then the tour itself. That's just the way it is - deal with it already.

[/quote]You have to also take into account the loss of a beloved mother, and just all the stresses on tour. Not to say he did not get burnout.[/quote]

His mom died TEN YEARS earlier...not an excuse for FTLOSM.

But I also think the broken hip has to be an issue.

That's a new one. I don't think he ever said he 'broke' his hip. Please find that quote...I'd love to add it to the list of supposed injuries he DID say he had.

Again, the FACT is that before the tour he said in a radio interview that he was fine - when specificaly asked about his hip...Then the excuses started flying when it actualy came time to tour. So, believe what you want.

I had several friends see him live during the FTLOSM tour. All came back with a positive reveiw. They would have been honest if it was bad. The clips on youtube are great, but because of noise and other problems you never get a true sound. Coming from experiance.[/quote[

See point above about canceling the tour.

Me thinks you don't like Perry much.........am I reading you wrong?

I think you can't face the facts and choose to believe a fantasy about what you want, instead of what actualy is.

[Gideon]

People who like to be jerks but can't master the quote function are entertaining.

I'm actually with Monker on this, but offer a caveat: Perry might not have been as consistent, but I'm sure he still had some fantastic vocal moments during FtLoSM's tour.

[madsplash]

Sorry guy.........I saw him personally during the ROR tour. He sounded great the night I saw him, and that was more than halfway into the tour schedule.

I really don't care. The FACT is that he canceled a bunch of shows, and then the tour itself. That's just the way it is - deal with it already.

You have to also take into account the loss of a beloved mother, and just all the stresses on tour. Not to say he did not get burnout.[/quote]

His mom died TEN YEARS earlier...not an excuse for FTLOSM.

But I also think the broken hip has to be an issue.

That's a new one. I don't think he ever said he 'broke' his hip. Please find that quote...I'd love to add it to the list of supposed injuries he DID say he had.

Again, the FACT is that before the tour he said in a radio interview that he was fine - when specificaly asked about his hip...Then the excuses started flying when it actualy came time to tour. So, believe what you want.

I had several friends see him live during the FTLOSM tour. All came back with a positive reveiw. They would have been honest if it was bad. The clips on youtube are great, but because of noise and other problems you never get a true sound. Coming from experiance.[/quote[

See point above about canceling the tour.

Me thinks you don't like Perry much.........am I reading you wrong?

I think you can't face the facts and choose to believe a fantasy about what you want, instead of what actualy is.

He cancelled shows and then the tour because he had bronchitis and pneumonia. Pretty good reasons. You deal with that, already.

[madsplash]

People who like to be jerks but can't master the quote function are entertaining.

I'm actually with Monker on this, but offer a caveat: Perry might not have been as consistent, but I'm sure he still had some fantastic vocal moments during FtLoSM's tour.

Gideon, I like to be a jerk and I can't master the quote function, I admit. Explain to me how the hell it works. I can only quote a whole post, not line by line. WTF? I've got a college degree and can't use this quote function.

And yes, SMFP had many fantastic vocal moments on the FTLOSM tour. It makes me feel really old to know that you were what, 2 or 3 when he did that tour, is that right? God, I'm old.

[Gideon]

People who like to be jerks but can't master the quote function are entertaining.

I'm actually with Monker on this, but offer a caveat: Perry might not have been as consistent, but I'm sure he still had some fantastic vocal moments during FtLoSM's tour.

Gideon, I like to be a jerk and I can't master the quote function, I admit. Explain to me how the hell it works. I can only quote a whole post, not line by line. WTF? I've got a college degree and can't use this quote function.

And yes, SMFP had many fantastic vocal moments on the FTLOSM tour. It makes me feel really old to know that you were what, 2 or 3 when he did that tour, is that right? God, I'm old.

I was born in '91. So I was 3 when he put the album out and 4 during the tour.

[madsplash]

People who like to be jerks but can't master the quote function are entertaining.

I'm actually with Monker on this, but offer a caveat: Perry might not have been as consistent, but I'm sure he still had some fantastic vocal moments during FtLoSM's tour.

Gideon, I like to be a jerk and I can't master the quote function, I admit. Explain to me how the hell it works. I can only quote a whole post, not line by line. WTF? I've got a college degree and can't use this quote function.

And yes, SMFP had many fantastic vocal moments on the FTLOSM tour. It makes me feel really old to know that you were what, 2 or 3 when he did that tour, is that right? God, I'm old.

I was born in '91. So I was 3 when he put the album out and 4 during the tour.

That's what I thought. What about the quote function? Seriously, I can't make it work. Help an old guy out. You'll be 40 someday and want help!

[Gideon]

People who like to be jerks but can't master the quote function are entertaining.

I'm actually with Monker on this, but offer a caveat: Perry might not have been as consistent, but I'm sure he still had some fantastic vocal moments during FtLoSM's tour.

Gideon, I like to be a jerk and I can't master the quote function, I admit. Explain to me how the hell it works. I can only quote a whole post, not line by line. WTF? I've got a college degree and can't use this quote function.

And yes, SMFP had many fantastic vocal moments on the FTLOSM tour. It makes me feel really old to know that you were what, 2 or 3 when he did that tour, is that right? God, I'm old.

I was born in '91. So I was 3 when he put the album out and 4 during the tour.

That's what I thought. What about the quote function? Seriously, I can't make it work. Help an old guy out. You'll be 40 someday and want help!

That's why I'll marry a woman significantly younger than me.

[madsplash]

People who like to be jerks but can't master the quote function are entertaining.

I'm actually with Monker on this, but offer a caveat: Perry might not have been as consistent, but I'm sure he still had some fantastic vocal moments during FtLoSM's tour.

Gideon, I like to be a jerk and I can't master the quote function, I admit. Explain to me how the hell it works. I can only quote a whole post, not line by line. WTF? I've got a college degree and can't use this quote function.

And yes, SMFP had many fantastic vocal moments on the FTLOSM tour. It makes me feel really old to know that you were what, 2 or 3 when he did that tour, is that right? God, I'm old.

I was born in '91. So I was 3 when he put the album out and 4 during the tour.

That's what I thought. What about the quote function? Seriously, I can't make it work. Help an old guy out. You'll be 40 someday and want help!

That's why I'll marry a woman significantly younger than me.

I tried that my first time, didn't work. TRUST ME, older women are where it's at. They know what they want, what they're doing and how to explain things to you.

And, what about the quote function? Maybe you think I'm kidding, but I'm not. How the hell does it work?

[artist4perry]

Sorry guy.........I saw him personally during the ROR tour. He sounded great the night I saw him, and that was more than halfway into the tour schedule.

I really don't care. The FACT is that he canceled a bunch of shows, and then the tour itself. That's just the way it is - deal with it already.

You have to also take into account the loss of a beloved mother, and just all the stresses on tour. Not to say he did not get burnout.[/quote]

His mom died TEN YEARS earlier...not an excuse for FTLOSM.

But I also think the broken hip has to be an issue.

That's a new one. I don't think he ever said he 'broke' his hip. Please find that quote...I'd love to add it to the list of supposed injuries he DID say he had.

Again, the FACT is that before the tour he said in a radio interview that he was fine - when specificaly asked about his hip...Then the excuses started flying when it actualy came time to tour. So, believe what you want.

I had several friends see him live during the FTLOSM tour. All came back with a positive reveiw. They would have been honest if it was bad. The clips on youtube are great, but because of noise and other problems you never get a true sound. Coming from experiance.[/quote[

See point above about canceling the tour.

Me thinks you don't like Perry much.........am I reading you wrong?

I think you can't face the facts and choose to believe a fantasy about what you want, instead of what actualy is.

Pardon me if I don't disect your post line by line..........I see no need to pick apart your words........as for the loss of the mother, I was refering to the time of ROR not the entire time.
As for the broken hip........I mispoke.........I meant the hip replacement......geez your a litteral dude aren't you?

I don't care how many tours he canceled in the past, I was not him and I don't know what his life was like. It is easy to monday night quarterback an entire lifetime when it isn't you haveing to live it.
And it seems you are resentful to him for cancelling dates in the past. That's fine. But I still like him. I don't expect you to.
But I wonder why you come on threads that are positive about the guy to shoot him down.

But it's a free country and if you want to dislike him, resent him, or whatever you feel, your free to do so. But I am just as free to disagree and buy his music and see him if he tours. You can sit at home if you wish.........more seats for the rest of us.

Oh as far as dealing with it already about the cancelations.........I am not the one it troubles.........seems you are upset about that...........I let it go a long time ago.

Anyway, no spilled milk, your welcome to your oppinions. I am welcome to mine. Best wishes.

[Gideon]

People who like to be jerks but can't master the quote function are entertaining.

I'm actually with Monker on this, but offer a caveat: Perry might not have been as consistent, but I'm sure he still had some fantastic vocal moments during FtLoSM's tour.

Gideon, I like to be a jerk and I can't master the quote function, I admit. Explain to me how the hell it works. I can only quote a whole post, not line by line. WTF? I've got a college degree and can't use this quote function.

And yes, SMFP had many fantastic vocal moments on the FTLOSM tour. It makes me feel really old to know that you were what, 2 or 3 when he did that tour, is that right? God, I'm old.

I was born in '91. So I was 3 when he put the album out and 4 during the tour.

That's what I thought. What about the quote function? Seriously, I can't make it work. Help an old guy out. You'll be 40 someday and want help!

That's why I'll marry a woman significantly younger than me.

I tried that my first time, didn't work. TRUST ME, older women are where it's at. They know what they want, what they're doing and how to explain things to you.

And, what about the quote function? Maybe you think I'm kidding, but I'm not. How the hell does it work?

Place quote in brackets at the beginning of an excerpt that you intend to... um... quote... and then /quote (with the backslash) in brackets at the end of an excerpt you intend to quote. Rinse and repeat if you intend to break down multiple statements.

[Jubilee]

People who like to be jerks but can't master the quote function are entertaining.

I'm actually with Monker on this, but offer a caveat: Perry might not have been as consistent, but I'm sure he still had some fantastic vocal moments during FtLoSM's tour.

Gideon, I like to be a jerk and I can't master the quote function, I admit. Explain to me how the hell it works. I can only quote a whole post, not line by line. WTF? I've got a college degree and can't use this quote function.

And yes, SMFP had many fantastic vocal moments on the FTLOSM tour. It makes me feel really old to know that you were what, 2 or 3 when he did that tour, is that right? God, I'm old.

I was born in '91. So I was 3 when he put the album out and 4 during the tour.

That's what I thought. What about the quote function? Seriously, I can't make it work. Help an old guy out. You'll be 40 someday and want help!

That's why I'll marry a woman significantly younger than me.

I tried that my first time, didn't work. TRUST ME, older women are where it's at. They know what they want, what they're doing and how to explain things to you.

And, what about the quote function? Maybe you think I'm kidding, but I'm not. How the hell does it work?

Gideon, can't you see this otherwise intelligent and insightful gentleman needs your assistance? Don't leave him hanging...

[Michigan Girl]

I know a lot of you here don't care for this song, but I think it's cool as hell. It's the last song he's sung lead on, and if this is a prelude to the quality of his voice on his future releases...I can definitely live with it!

I was flipping through stuff on youtube tonight, and came across a kick-ass video of Perry discussing the song, then showing clips and a video of him in the studio. I'm sure others have seen it, but I've never seen this before and I think it kicks ass!

Anyone who think's Perry's washed-up is smoking crack. Deacon...you were talking about power and vocal/breath control...listen to one of the last notes in the song, and notice how long he holds that very powerful note...THAT's vocal control.

Hope you enjoy it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sde4Wy9p ... re=related

Someone doesn't like it?!?!?

One of my fav's.......
Very powerful, takes my breath away!!!

[Monker]

People who like to be jerks but can't master the quote function are entertaining.

I'm actually with Monker on this, but offer a caveat: Perry might not have been as consistent, but I'm sure he still had some fantastic vocal moments during FtLoSM's tour.

If you were born in 1991, I was quoting on discussion forums before you were out of diapers.

[G.I.Jim]

People who like to be jerks but can't master the quote function are entertaining.

I'm actually with Monker on this, but offer a caveat: Perry might not have been as consistent, but I'm sure he still had some fantastic vocal moments during FtLoSM's tour.

If you were born in 1991, I was quoting on discussion forums before you were out of diapers.

And I enlisted in the military the same year he was born! Get down and do some damn push-ups!

[Monker]

He cancelled shows and then the tour because he had bronchitis and pneumonia. Pretty good reasons. You deal with that, already.

The excuse doesn't matter to me....cuz he is full of them. Hip, cold, mother...blah, blah, blah. Poor Steve

The bottom line is that he has not completed a tour in 25yrs, if you include ROR. I absolutely do not believe, in any way, that he will tour again.

[Saint John]

He cancelled shows and then the tour because he had bronchitis and pneumonia. Pretty good reasons. You deal with that, already.

The excuse doesn't matter to me....cuz he is full of them. Hip, cold, mother...blah, blah, blah. Poor Steve

The bottom line is that he has not completed a tour in 25yrs, if you include ROR. I absolutely do not believe, in any way, that he will tour again.

Well said. And if he tours without Journey it's not like anyone, in masses, will give a shit.