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Postby jrny84 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:25 am

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Luvsaugeri wrote:It's never been the same for me since they let SA go.


SA? What about SP? I don't get bothered about Journey hiring/firing Perry impersonators, because they are a dime a dozen. If Arnel left today I wouldn't be disturbed by it at all. I don't mean to offend the SA, JSS, and AP fans, but losing Perry was the biggest blow this band will ever have to deal with.

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Before Journey fired Steve Perry and started going through singers like toilet paper, they had one heck of a name out there. I would say they definetly had more integrity then, than they do now, and thats unfortunate. Many people today think of Journey as the band that keeps trying to find a "perry soundalike". Journey with Perry definetly carried a big name in the music business, they were and still are one of the top selling american artists of all time and are one of the top selling bands on their record company... Columbia records. No they may have not been tight with the music critics, but who cares! These music critics are the ones that are associated with the embarassing rock and roll hall of fame...what does that tell you!
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:38 am

Why would anyone want the band to quit? Where's the point in that...
Let them do their thing. Go to the show, don't go to the show.

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Postby Don » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:39 am

Rhiannon wrote:Why would anyone want the band to quit? Where's the point in that...
Let them do their thing. Go to the show, don't go to the show.

Simple.


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Postby Deacon » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:41 am

Quit [to address the OP]?

I'd say not entirely. Not entirely until they can no longer perform live up to par.

I say entirely because I genuinely liked the direction that Arrival and the rest of the Augeri albums took the band, and I think they should quit with the reenactment of the Perry-era. But, that's just my opinion.
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Postby journey361 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:47 am

Plain and simple, not sweet and simple, Journey will never have the jaw-droping frontman that SP maintained in (circa_) 1977-82). He was and is a a top-5 vocalist , probably in history and rightly so. I pitty the generation who never got to see SP sing live in his day. U-TUBE does not do him justice. That being said, good for AP, a great guy, good singer. I hope he doesn't toast-out his voice like SP seems to have. Oh, and the others ater SP as well.
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Postby FishinMagician » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:05 am

no, but if neal is out, i'm out
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Postby Gideon » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:08 am

FishinMagician wrote:no, but if neal is out, i'm out


Yeah, I think I would be, too.
'Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. “I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Steve Perry (Feb 2012).'
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Postby Deacon » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:08 am

FishinMagician wrote:no, but if neal is out, i'm out


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Postby Luvsaugeri » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:44 am

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Luvsaugeri wrote:It's never been the same for me since they let SA go.


SA? What about SP? I don't get bothered about Journey hiring/firing Perry impersonators, because they are a dime a dozen. If Arnel left today I wouldn't be disturbed by it at all. I don't mean to offend the SA, JSS, and AP fans, but losing Perry was the biggest blow this band will ever have to deal with.

8)


Nope.....didn't really bother me when SP left. The band just faded away and I moved on. But I was more involved when they had SA and the stuff that happened with him. After that, it all changed for me.
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Postby Jana » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:05 am

This place would be the sound of crickets if Journey gave it up.

The only people that would be on here in two years would be those discussing: Did you hear, Perry is finally releasing his long-awaited album. No, really, this time it's really happening. Hey, guess what, I heard Perry on another album singing background for one line. That must mean he's finally getting ready to sing again.. :wink: :lol: :lol:

Just kidding.
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Postby journey361 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:16 am

Luvsaugeri, +1
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Postby jrny84 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:26 am

journey361 wrote:Plain and simple, not sweet and simple, Journey will never have the jaw-droping frontman that SP maintained in (circa_) 1977-82). He was and is a a top-5 vocalist , probably in history and rightly so. I pitty the generation who never got to see SP sing live in his day. U-TUBE does not do him justice. That being said, good for AP, a great guy, good singer. I hope he doesn't toast-out his voice like SP seems to have. Oh, and the others ater SP as well.


Yeah I agree. Perry put that band on the map, helped them to become of the most successful bands, and created a unique sound that no one else can. When Perry left, the band went nowhere. Finally after 10 years of trying to make a name for themselves without Perry, they are getting some recognition and success in album sales.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:31 am

Augeri lipping bothered me for a long time, but I finally realized that all the good that happened while he fronted the band far outweighed what he did at the end. While they're all certainly responsible, he bears the majority of the blame as the actual perpetrator, but I have long since forgiven all of them. I really don't give a shit about any of that anymore. They were douchebags when they didn't tour because of Perry's never-ending excuses and they were douchebags at a time while they were touring. In the end, the epic get togethers and seeing people I only see annually makes them touring far more important than them not touring.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:56 am

Saint John wrote:Augeri lipping bothered me for a long time, but I finally realized that all the good that happened while he fronted the band far outweighed what he did at the end. While they're all certainly responsible, he bears the majority of the blame as the actual perpetrator, but I have long since forgiven all of them. I really don't give a shit about any of that anymore. They were douchebags when they didn't tour because of Perry's never-ending excuses and they were douchebags at a time while they were touring. In the end, the epic get togethers and seeing people I only see annually makes them touring far more important than them not touring.


Have you forgiven Mr. Perry?!?!? :wink:
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Postby annie89509 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:48 am

To each its own, I always say. For me, it was SP’s voice singing those songs that hooked me to Journey’s music (yes, I prefer these over his solo efforts). At the time, SP was long gone with just the drama left, and SA firmly entrenched as lead singer (who knew tapegate was on the horizon?). While Arrival and Revelation (and Gen & R13) are all Journey music, with good songs, it’s just not the same without THAT voice. I don’t care how many people think TBF is a snoozefest, that album has soul and richness.

No, I’m not sitting around pining for SP’s return, and he most definitely will not sound the same singing those songs now. Sad that all that’s left is the records and boots to get that experience, but an experience nonetheless. After one has seen and heard Utopia, everything else is second-rate. I just don’t see myself paying that kind of money to see any other incarnation, but more power to people who do.
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Postby annie89509 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:50 am

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Saint John wrote:Augeri lipping bothered me for a long time, but I finally realized that all the good that happened while he fronted the band far outweighed what he did at the end. While they're all certainly responsible, he bears the majority of the blame as the actual perpetrator, but I have long since forgiven all of them. I really don't give a shit about any of that anymore. They were douchebags when they didn't tour because of Perry's never-ending excuses and they were douchebags at a time while they were touring. In the end, the epic get togethers and seeing people I only see annually makes them touring far more important than them not touring.


Have you forgiven Mr. Perry?!?!? :wink:

MG, +1! :wink:
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:53 am

annie89509 wrote:To each its own, I always say. For me, it was SP’s voice singing those songs that hooked me to Journey’s music (yes, I prefer these over his solo efforts). At the time, SP was long gone with just the drama left, and SA firmly entrenched as lead singer (who knew tapegate was on the horizon?). While Arrival and Revelation (and Gen & R13) are all Journey music, with good songs, it’s just not the same without THAT voice. I don’t care how many people think TBF is a snoozefest, that album has soul and richness.

No, I’m not sitting around pining for SP’s return, and he most definitely will not sound the same singing those songs now. Sad that all that’s left is the records and boots to get that experience, but an experience nonetheless. After one has seen and heard Utopia, everything else is second-rate. I just don’t see myself paying that kind of money to see any other incarnation, but more power to people who do.


your negative when it comes to perry!.... :lol: hater!
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Postby Moose » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:54 am

Friga and Schon are done! Their little American Idol wannabe singer is nice, but please!

It's over, whether anyone here wants to believe that or not.
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Postby annie89509 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:59 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
annie89509 wrote:To each its own, I always say. For me, it was SP’s voice singing those songs that hooked me to Journey’s music (yes, I prefer these over his solo efforts). At the time, SP was long gone with just the drama left, and SA firmly entrenched as lead singer (who knew tapegate was on the horizon?). While Arrival and Revelation (and Gen & R13) are all Journey music, with good songs, it’s just not the same without THAT voice. I don’t care how many people think TBF is a snoozefest, that album has soul and richness.

No, I’m not sitting around pining for SP’s return, and he most definitely will not sound the same singing those songs now. Sad that all that’s left is the records and boots to get that experience, but an experience nonetheless. After one has seen and heard Utopia, everything else is second-rate. I just don’t see myself paying that kind of money to see any other incarnation, but more power to people who do.


your negative when it comes to perry!.... :lol: hater!

lol, Larry, just speaking my mind, like everyone else around here.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:10 am

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larryfromnextdoor wrote:
annie89509 wrote:To each its own, I always say. For me, it was SP’s voice singing those songs that hooked me to Journey’s music (yes, I prefer these over his solo efforts). At the time, SP was long gone with just the drama left, and SA firmly entrenched as lead singer (who knew tapegate was on the horizon?). While Arrival and Revelation (and Gen & R13) are all Journey music, with good songs, it’s just not the same without THAT voice. I don’t care how many people think TBF is a snoozefest, that album has soul and richness.

No, I’m not sitting around pining for SP’s return, and he most definitely will not sound the same singing those songs now. Sad that all that’s left is the records and boots to get that experience, but an experience nonetheless. After one has seen and heard Utopia, everything else is second-rate. I just don’t see myself paying that kind of money to see any other incarnation, but more power to people who do.


your negative when it comes to perry!.... :lol: hater!

lol, Larry, just speaking my mind, like everyone else around here.


:lol: :lol: you always get accused of something thats opposite of what you typed! 8)
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Postby Jana » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:50 am

Moose wrote:Friga and Schon are done! Their little American Idol wannabe singer is nice, but please!

It's over, whether anyone here wants to believe that or not.


Oh, right, Journey is over. :roll: Five shows in Hawaii, Shooting a new DVD. Great reviews on Revelation. Successful tour last year. You don't have to like them or want to see them, but wishing them to be over isn't going make it so. They're energized right now. 8)
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Postby Moose » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:58 am

Jana wrote:
Moose wrote:Friga and Schon are done! Their little American Idol wannabe singer is nice, but please!

It's over, whether anyone here wants to believe that or not.


Oh, right, Journey is over. :roll: Five shows in Hawaii, Shooting a new DVD. Great reviews on Revelation. Successful tour last year. You don't have to like them or want to see them, but wishing them to be over isn't going make it so. They're energized right now. 8)


I saw them last year. The little guy has a nice voice, but American Idol comes to mind. They are a complete joke. Did you ever see Weekend at Bernie's? Journey is Bernie.

It's OVER
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Postby Blueskies » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:09 pm

Obviously, they still enjoy playing. They will probably play music until they can't anymore, together or separately, even if the audience was only one other person or just for themselves. More power to 'em for continuing to do what they love to do. 8)
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:53 pm

FishinMagician wrote:no, but if neal is out, i'm out


Nah, Arnel already has Neal's replacement lined up. ;) lol

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Postby Perrydise » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:36 pm

Saint John wrote:Augeri lipping bothered me for a long time, but I finally realized that all the good that happened while he fronted the band far outweighed what he did at the end. While they're all certainly responsible, he bears the majority of the blame as the actual perpetrator, but I have long since forgiven all of them. I really don't give a shit about any of that anymore. They were douchebags when they didn't tour because of Perry's never-ending excuses and they were douchebags at a time while they were touring. In the end, the epic get togethers and seeing people I only see annually makes them touring far more important than them not touring.



Come on SJ, this isnt something he came up with on his own. I am sure he was "ordered"to do it. Remember it is Neal's band and he calls all the shots.

The guy that orders the hits is just as guilty as the one that pulls the trigger.

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Postby stevew2 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:37 pm

Saint John wrote:Augeri lipping bothered me for a long time, but I finally realized that all the good that happened while he fronted the band far outweighed what he did at the end. While they're all certainly responsible, he bears the majority of the blame as the actual perpetrator, but I have long since forgiven all of them. I really don't give a shit about any of that anymore. They were douchebags when they didn't tour because of Perry's never-ending excuses and they were douchebags at a time while they were touring. In the end, the epic get togethers and seeing people I only see annually makes them touring far more important than them not touring.
They all bear the blame equally for the lipping,Friga lipped his vocals on the piece of shit every generations yet he never got called on it,most of there background vocals are pre recorded and played out front like they are live.the only live vocals you here everytime is Arnel and Deen
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Postby Voyager » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:07 pm

Luvsaugeri wrote:Nope.....didn't really bother me when SP left.


That says to me that you:

1. Never were a Journey/Steve Perry fan to begin with.

2. Started listening to Journey after Steve Augueri joined the band.

3. Are possibly a kissing cousin of Steve Augeri or a coworker from The Gap.

4. Attribute Journey's success to Steve Augeri (hence the username "Luvsaugeri").

5. Are probably less than 30 years old.

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Postby stevew2 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:21 pm

Voyager wrote:
Luvsaugeri wrote:It's never been the same for me since they let SA go.


SA? What about SP? I don't get bothered about Journey hiring/firing Perry impersonators, because they are a dime a dozen. If Arnel left today I wouldn't be disturbed by it at all. I don't mean to offend the SA, JSS, and AP fans, but losing Perry was the biggest blow this band will ever have to deal with.

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Dime a dozen? Augeri slugged them tunes out for Journey for eight years,longer than Perry,not saying he was better,but dime a dozen? no fuckin way
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Postby Voyager » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:42 pm

stevew2 wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Luvsaugeri wrote:It's never been the same for me since they let SA go.


SA? What about SP? I don't get bothered about Journey hiring/firing Perry impersonators, because they are a dime a dozen. If Arnel left today I wouldn't be disturbed by it at all. I don't mean to offend the SA, JSS, and AP fans, but losing Perry was the biggest blow this band will ever have to deal with.

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Dime a dozen? Augeri slugged them tunes out for Journey for eight years,longer than Perry,not saying he was better,but dime a dozen? no fuckin way


You're right Steve. The more I think about it, I have to agree with Luvsaugeri:

Luvsaugeri wrote:Nope.....didn't really bother me when SP left.

What the hell was I thinking?

Likewise, just yesterday I decided that it really didn't bother me when Elvis died. I actually prefer listening his dime-a-dozen Las Vegas impersonators sing Jailhouse Rock and Blue Suede shoes better than I liked hearing Elvis sing them.

:lol: :roll: :lol:
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Postby Voyager » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:47 pm

You guys know I am being a little sarcastic (well, a lot :wink: ).

I'm just a huge Perry fan. Can you imagine if the Elvis Band was touring around the country with multiple Elvis impersonators while their fans are on message boards declaring that the impersonators were better than Elvis? Well, that's pretty much exactly what has happened to Journey. I fail to see any difference.

That said, I will still pay to see Journey w/Arnel just because I love and appreciate what Journey has done as a band - not just what Steve Perry did. Every one of the members of Journey gave 200% to the success of the band. I don't hold it against Neal, Jon, or Ross for Perry's leaving - so I fully support them using Perry impersonators to continue the legacy of the band and to make their fans happy in the best way they can, given the loss of Perry. It's hard to blame Perry, because everyone should have the right to retire from their profession. So, I don't blame anyone for it.

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