Blueskies wrote:Carla777 wrote:Blueskies wrote:Yes, people do things from their ignorance. Like in judging people by their outward appearance...like judging by skin color too....or in judging them by their regional and cultural differences..in things they do which is "foreign" to their own ways. Too many remain ignorant instead of learning tolerance, understanding and acceptance of difference's. They rush to judgement and don't keep an open mind and try to learn more of someone before they condemn them.
Yep, people act badly and say stupid things a lot from their own ignorance....and from their own low self esteem...to me when someone has the need to be cruel, call people names...it shows that they have something lacking in them...some insecurities they try to cover up. They use other people and put them down to try to build themselves up...and then believe they are somehow better then the person they are looking down on. It reflects badly on them...not the person they are putting down.
I still remember when you prejudged me and posted some "comment" about me
anyway this not to bring the past topic alive, but it's just when I read your post I thought that it was funny coming from you; practice what you preach is a good way to start when you talk about tolerance.
About the topic in the forum, all i can say is that this lady have a beautiful voice and his looks seem to fit his personality, i think she is lovely, funny and talented!
Good grief....something else I mentioned...carrying grudges and what it says of someone. First off..things didn't jibe about you and you jumped into something so I said what I said. Rip later apologized to me for things he said in pm...then I told him to translate my apologies to you. He sent another message and said he did...he said you accepted it. I said it would have been nice if you had apologized for the insulting comments you said towards me...he said I should email you and talk to you about it. Well, IMO, an apology should not have to be solicited and if the person wants to do the right thing then their conscience should be their guide and lead them to do it on their own.....like Rip did...Like I did...but did you?? No, you did not.
You said much more towards me then I did you .. you have been very presumptuous and judgemental of me...you were very insulting....even made a comment or two about me on the board after the fact...something I have not done...and you never apologized. Not only did I apologize in pm, I also apologized on the board. See, when I am wrong I will say so and did....you did not.....and I also let it go and never made a comment to you or about you again.
Even without an apology from you I didn't hold a grudge towards you and let it go...but you obviously do towards me..so maybe you should reflect a little on that and read what I said about holding grudges and what it shows. Also don't accept an apology if you want to stay pissed off at someone...to accept one and then continue bringing up the grudge you're still holding and to do so without any further provocation as an excuse to... that doesn't speak well of you either.
I'm sorry Phyllis, I've agreed with you so far in this thread, but this is more than a little hypocritical. Carla made a fair point - you have been criticising others for behaviour you yourself have shown on more than one occasion. I remember that episode, and I remember telling you in a PM that I thought some people were being unfair to you, but that you were being unfair to Carla too. You made some very rude, uninformed pronouncements about Carla and Rip, when you didn't know what the situation was. You
didn't apologise to Carla, you sent an apology via a third person in a PM, for a very public criticism. And by doing that, you certainly didn't give Carla any situation in which to apologise for anything she may have said (although as I recall, she didn't say anything that wasn't justified by your public behaviour.)
I don't think Carla has said anything that could be construed as holding a grudge; she has pointed out that you have made the same error you have been harping on about in this thread. I agree with what you have said about judging people by their looks being wrong, but it didn't need to be said half a dozen times, and in such a patronising way.
I
don't like how some people treat you, Phyllis, and I have said so, both publically and privately, to several people, and I think you have justifiable reasons to be annoyed with certain people on this board. But you don't help yourself by setting yourself up as the moral judge and Miss Manners of MR, especially when making pronouncements on something you yourself have been guilty of. Carla had every right to call you out on your hypocrisy, and I'm calling you on it again. You are owed many apologies by some people on this board, but you also owe several yourself.
Why treat life as a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in an attractive & well-preserved body? Get there by skidding in sideways, a glass of wine in one hand, chocolate in the other, body totally worn out, screaming WOOHOO! What a ride!