Is Perry Sitting In The Pimp Seat?

[walkslikealady]

Bet if Herbie had gotten a cut himself he wouldn't be bitching about it.

[Jubilee]

Okay obviously I do not know what Perry's contract stated when he left Jouney but how in the world does he get paid when the sing the music but at the same time AP can sing rerecords? Could have been that was never in the contract because he never imagined they would try to do that or what? Just justs seems like something a band would die if a former singer died or something or really not even at that? Can not even imagine what the thinking was there?

I don't know what Perry's contract stated either, but whatever it was, it was a thing of beauty. Whoever was/is representing Perry should be commended. Whoever was representing the rest of the band, on the other hand, should be sued for negligence or some sort of breach of fiduciary duties. It's standard procedure for Perry to get residuals, but for these guys to sign a contract agreeing to pay SMFP as if he were still a member of the band long after he's gone? How the hell do you get that deal? As far as I'm concerned the band has no right to complain now. For whatever reason, they agreed to this deal. They signed the contract, now they have to live with it. Is it unfair? Probably. But hey, that's the nature of pimpin'. So, to that end, they need to just go on out there, shake that money maker, and make sure Pimpin'-ass SMFP gets all his money. Not some. Not half. ALL of his money.

[Voyager]

Is it unfair? Probably. But hey, that's the nature of pimpin'.

Word. Perry is like, "I'm not whoring my voice out anymore biatches - I'm the pimp now. Go get someone else to work the street for me, and show me the money."

[Don]

Is it unfair? Probably. But hey, that's the nature of pimpin'.

Word. Perry is like, "I'm not whoring my voice out anymore biatches - I'm the pimp now. Go get someone else to work the street for me, and show me the money."

That girl has red eyes.

[Jubilee]

+1

[Voyager]

Is it unfair? Probably. But hey, that's the nature of pimpin'.

Word. Perry is like, "I'm not whoring my voice out anymore biatches - I'm the pimp now. Go get someone else to work the street for me, and show me the money."

That girl has red eyes.

Really? I must have missed that. It wasn't her eyes that caught my attention.

[TRAGChick]

Whoever was representing the rest of the band, on the other hand, should be sued for negligence or some sort of breach of fiduciary duties. It's standard procedure for Perry to get residuals, but for these guys to sign a contract agreeing to pay SMFP as if he were still a member of the band long after he's gone? How the hell do you get that deal?

Two words: Copyright & Publishing.

[Glenn]

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What Perry did was manage to get a court settlement that gave him a huge percentage, Herbie called it a "six way cut" as opposed to a "five way cut", of the band's profits during the Augeri years.

The Loons are lauding it as a great victory for the Beaked One; the rest of us think it's a shitty move.

What's really funny is that if Neal had done that, people would be crying and pouting and hurling threats. Double standards galore; funny to see people cast aside their sense of ethics and morality so long as someone they "like" (a term I use loosely, since none of us really know any of them) is on the receiving end of the benefits.

Well said!

Thank God for Augeri...He put in his time and provided enough to the point where he has his die hards, fansites, etc.....Hell, I know some people that came back to Journey or became a new fan BECAUSE of Augeri.

JSS helped save a tour, and brought a different style to the band which some loved, some did not.. (I did)

Arnel....He's got a successful cd and tour with them with more to come.


If someone has a hard on for a old Porsche that sits in a garage ,and wants to polish it, and sit in it remembering the old days, have at it....Cobwebs and cats all around it....

I'll follow the Ford truck around that has put in the miles, and has entertained people pretty much every year since 1998.....


I have no problem to putting in my Infinity cd and playing it while on my way to a (current) Journey concert.

[Peartree12249]

Sorry kids, life isn't fair, the good guy doesn't always win in the end, business is business... yadda yadda yadda Maybe Neal should have hired better lawyers.

Or if you're a loon, the good guy does win in the end, all movies have a happy ending and justice has been served

Pick one and move on.

[Jana]

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What Perry did was manage to get a court settlement that gave him a huge percentage, Herbie called it a "six way cut" as opposed to a "five way cut", of the band's profits during the Augeri years.

The Loons are lauding it as a great victory for the Beaked One; the rest of us think it's a shitty move.

What's really funny is that if Neal had done that, people would be crying and pouting and hurling threats. Double standards galore; funny to see people cast aside their sense of ethics and morality so long as someone they "like" (a term I use loosely, since none of us really know any of them) is on the receiving end of the benefits.

Well said!

Thank God for Augeri...He put in his time and provided enough to the point where he has his die hards, fansites, etc.....Hell, I know some people that came back to Journey or became a new fan BECAUSE of Augeri.

JSS helped save a tour, and brought a different style to the band which some loved, some did not.. (I did)

Arnel....He's got a successful cd and tour with them with more to come.


If someone has a hard on for a old Porsche that sits in a garage ,and wants to polish it, and sit in it remembering the old days, have at it....Cobwebs and cats all around it....

I'll follow the Ford truck around that has put in the miles, and has entertained people pretty much every year since 1998.....


I have no problem to putting in my Infinity cd and playing it while on my way to a (current) Journey concert.

JSS Rocks, what a great post. +1

[Jubilee]

Whoever was representing the rest of the band, on the other hand, should be sued for negligence or some sort of breach of fiduciary duties. It's standard procedure for Perry to get residuals, but for these guys to sign a contract agreeing to pay SMFP as if he were still a member of the band long after he's gone? How the hell do you get that deal?

Two words: Copyright & Publishing.

I totally understand the copyright & publishing thing. No one can begrudge the man that. My understanding from reading the interview with HH is SMFP is/was still getting paid a full share as if he were still on the road performing with the band, thus Neal's comment that he was "getting paid like a motherfucker when he shouldn't be". Correct me if I'm wrong.

[TRAGChick]

Whoever was representing the rest of the band, on the other hand, should be sued for negligence or some sort of breach of fiduciary duties. It's standard procedure for Perry to get residuals, but for these guys to sign a contract agreeing to pay SMFP as if he were still a member of the band long after he's gone? How the hell do you get that deal?

Two words: Copyright & Publishing.

I totally understand the copyright & publishing thing. No one can begrudge the man that. My understanding from reading the interview with HH is SMFP is/was still getting paid a full share as if he were still on the road performing with the band, thus Neal's comment that he was "getting paid like a motherfucker when he shouldn't be". Correct me if I'm wrong.

Well, every time one of his songs gets played...be it in commercials or in sold-out Concerts:

$$ CHA- CHING!! $$

Another 2 words for all: EXCELLENT LAWYERS.

[Jubilee]

Whoever was representing the rest of the band, on the other hand, should be sued for negligence or some sort of breach of fiduciary duties. It's standard procedure for Perry to get residuals, but for these guys to sign a contract agreeing to pay SMFP as if he were still a member of the band long after he's gone? How the hell do you get that deal?

Two words: Copyright & Publishing.

I totally understand the copyright & publishing thing. No one can begrudge the man that. My understanding from reading the interview with HH is SMFP is/was still getting paid a full share as if he were still on the road performing with the band, thus Neal's comment that he was "getting paid like a motherfucker when he shouldn't be". Correct me if I'm wrong.

Well, every time one of his songs gets played...be it in commercials or in sold-out Concerts:

$$ CHA- CHING!! $$


Another 2 words for all: EXCELLENT LAWYERS.

It''s good to be the king.

[Don]

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What Perry did was manage to get a court settlement that gave him a huge percentage, Herbie called it a "six way cut" as opposed to a "five way cut", of the band's profits during the Augeri years.

The Loons are lauding it as a great victory for the Beaked One; the rest of us think it's a shitty move.

What's really funny is that if Neal had done that, people would be crying and pouting and hurling threats. Double standards galore; funny to see people cast aside their sense of ethics and morality so long as someone they "like" (a term I use loosely, since none of us really know any of them) is on the receiving end of the benefits.

Well said!

Thank God for Augeri...He put in his time and provided enough to the point where he has his die hards, fansites, etc.....Hell, I know some people that came back to Journey or became a new fan BECAUSE of Augeri.

JSS helped save a tour, and brought a different style to the band which some loved, some did not.. (I did)

Arnel....He's got a successful cd and tour with them with more to come.


If someone has a hard on for a old Porsche that sits in a garage ,and wants to polish it, and sit in it remembering the old days, have at it....Cobwebs and cats all around it....

I'll follow the Ford truck around that has put in the miles, and has entertained people pretty much every year since 1998.....


I have no problem to putting in my Infinity cd and playing it while on my way to a (current) Journey concert.

JSS Rocks, what a great post. +1

+ infinty

If you're happy, that's all that matters. When it comes to Journey, I like polishing up the Porsche but to each his own right? I used my ford truck for Moody Blues last week, I'll use a Toyota hybrid for Celtic Woman this week and back to the Ford for Boz Scaggs at the end of the month. Still got plenty of shows to go to even if I don't feel like going to a particular one. Heart at the OC fair, Aerosmith, ZZTop, Def Leppard and Poison all at the Verizon in Irvine this summer. Lot's of good stuff to see.

[perryswoman]

Is it unfair? Probably. But hey, that's the nature of pimpin'.

Word. Perry is like, "I'm not whoring my voice out anymore biatches - I'm the pimp now. Go get someone else to work the street for me, and show me the money."

Yea that is one hell of a deal. Cheers to Perry and his lawyer!! I wouldn't doing all that crazy touring if I was getting paid as if i was either but again, how do you get that great of a deal but at the same time AP is aloud to rerecord the dirty dozen?

[perryswoman]

Also I do not know where I read it but I think that as of this year, SMFP is not paid as one of the band members anymore. That I think was for 10 years which expired this year which I guess is the reason Arnel gets a full split as of this year.

[Jubilee]

Also I do not know where I read it but I think that as of this year, SMFP is not paid as one of the band members anymore. That I think was for 10 years which expired this year which I guess is the reason Arnel gets a full split as of this year.

Hmm. Gravy train coming to an end...rumors (old and tired though they may be) of work on a new album - complete with revitalized vocal cords...hmm. You've got my loon senses tingling. Any loon worth his/her salt can put 2 and 2 together, and of course get 22.

(quick, someone don the ceremonial beak and do the drunk puppy dance!!)

[Ftloperry]

Steve has given up singing and touring to do his own tv show which will air on MTV. It is called "Pimp My Rock Band"

[madsplash]

Also I do not know where I read it but I think that as of this year, SMFP is not paid as one of the band members anymore. That I think was for 10 years which expired this year which I guess is the reason Arnel gets a full split as of this year.

Hmm. Gravy train coming to an end...rumors (old and tired though they may be) of work on a new album - complete with revitalized vocal cords...hmm. You've got my loon senses tingling. Any loon worth his/her salt can put 2 and 2 together, and of course get 22.

(quick, someone don the ceremonial beak and do the drunk puppy dance!!)

He's already worth 100 million plus, the gravy train was never needed. It was the fucking point of it. Move on?
He built it. They're riding it. PERIOD!

[Jubilee]

He's already worth 100 million plus, the gravy train was never needed. It was the fucking point of it. Move on?
He built it. They're riding it. PERIOD!

Source please.

[Peartree12249]

Also I do not know where I read it but I think that as of this year, SMFP is not paid as one of the band members anymore. That I think was for 10 years which expired this year which I guess is the reason Arnel gets a full split as of this year.

Hmm. Gravy train coming to an end...rumors (old and tired though they may be) of work on a new album - complete with revitalized vocal cords...hmm. You've got my loon senses tingling. Any loon worth his/her salt can put 2 and 2 together, and of course get 22.

(quick, someone don the ceremonial beak and do the drunk puppy dance!!)

Weeeeeee I'm spinning!!!!!!!!
This is fun...Ha ha ha
Getting... dizzy... now,
I think I'm going to get sick.... ops
omg look out!!!!!

CRASH sorry

[Voyager]

Steve has given up singing and touring to do his own tv show which will air on MTV. It is called "Pimp My Rock Band"

LOL!

[stevew2]

Is it unfair? Probably. But hey, that's the nature of pimpin'.

Word. Perry is like, "I'm not whoring my voice out anymore biatches - I'm the pimp now. Go get someone else to work the street for me, and show me the money."

That belly chain just gave a serious boner, i better go

[larryfromnextdoor]

That belly chain just gave a serious boner, i better go

well then, concentrate more on the girl ,dude..

[stevew2]

You are a clown Larry, such a clown

[stevew2]

You are a clown Larry, such a clown

Says the man with the Hello Kitty Friga avatar!

You need a spankin