OT - NYC Air Force 1 panic

[Rockindeano]

i dunno if i buy that obama didn't know. either way it looks bad cause if he didn't really know... he should have. i'm sure this was planned & we're to really believe that our prez had no idea? he's making bush look brighter by the minute eh? }:C)

You are about as bright as a dark night. Obama knew, absolutely, or he knew vaguely, or he entrusted someone who he shouldn't have. He fucked up and so did the person responsible, but the one difference between Obama and your idiotic leader was/is Obama will take responsibility and say so. He apologized profusely, and no matter who's fault it was, it's over with and behind us.

What George W Bush would have said, on camera, is, "I will find out who's responsible, and they will be fired>" (Valerie Plame leak). Then after it is determined that Karl Rove was the man/pig in question, nothing happened.

Keep trying.

[treetopovskaya]

i coud have photoshopped that and charged the government $200,000. a savings of $130,000!!

no panic and bad pr!!

[ttango1]

C'mon Bar...how could you not know, it's your damn plane.

[texafana]

Expect many more ongoing obama blunders. Bowing to the king, and many others. jeesh...

[Rockindeano]

i coud have photoshopped that and charged the government $200,000. a savings of $130,000!!

no panic and bad pr!!

You want to play this game? How many vacations did W Bush take to that fuckin' ranch of his? Care to calculate how many millions of dollars that costs us? You know, the taxpayer? Well I got the answer for you. Bush took 77 trips to Crawford, TX. 77 trips. Care to do the math on that one tree? 879 days of vacation in 8 years. Countless trips to Kennebunkport, Maine as well. Do the math.

I have no idea why someone thinks a photo op near the Statue of Liberty is so important, but that is hardly a waste of money compared to 77 fucking trips to Crawford, TX.

[Jana]

Expect many more ongoing obama blunders. Bowing to the king, and many others. jeesh...

Your bitterness is showing. I recognize that feeling. It's how I felt every day with Bush in his second term. Notice I said second term. Because the first term I actually supported my President and gave him the benefit of the doubt his first three years in office.

[lights1961]

i dunno if i buy that obama didn't know. either way it looks bad cause if he didn't really know... he should have. i'm sure this was planned & we're to really believe that our prez had no idea? he's making bush look brighter by the minute eh? }:C)

You are about as bright as a dark night. Obama knew, absolutely, or he knew vaguely, or he entrusted someone who he shouldn't have. He fucked up and so did the person responsible, but the one difference between Obama and your idiotic leader was/is Obama will take responsibility and say so. He apologized profusely, and no matter who's fault it was, it's over with and behind us.

What George W Bush would have said, on camera, is, "I will find out who's responsible, and they will be fired>" (Valerie Plame leak). Then after it is determined that Karl Rove was the man/pig in question, nothing happened.

Keep trying.

THE DIFFERENCE deano is the PRESS WONT GIVE A DAMN about this, the regular networks spent hardly any time at all... LENO where was his jokes about it??? ALL GIVE HIM A PASS... thats the difference... DRUDGE HAS reported on it... none of us would have known that 320,00 was used to do this photo op... ALL the networks care about the swine flu bug... IF THIS WAS BUSH... you would still be slamming him...forgot you still are... and will for everthing that goes wrong even in the next 4 years... because none of it will be obamas fault...

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[Rockindeano]

Expect many more ongoing obama blunders. Bowing to the king, and many others. jeesh...

You're a douche. Every president makes blunders early on, it's just that the last one made more and more all the way up to his final days. Figures he and you come from the same state of Texas.

[hoagiepete]

Why is it everytime Obama (or his people) does something stupid, the first thing you hear is ... uh... well...uh...GW did this or GW did that. Someday Obama is going to have to stand on his own merits and not be compared to the last guy. We'd better be looking forward or we're all going to be screwed.

His apologies are going to soon seem hollow...just like mine to my wife...since I have to say sorry every day for something stupid I did. Or another analogy are kids that quickly say "sorry" and then immediately go and do the same stupid thing again. Sorry don't mean much in these cases.

I will give him credit though for coming out saying it was a screw up. He's already done that more than any president I remember. Someday he needs to apologize for circling himself with a bunch of ya ya's though. I think his staff is over their head...but hopefully they have a steep learning curve.

[Rockindeano]

THE DIFFERENCE deano is the PRESS WONT GIVE A DAMN about this, the regular networks spent hardly any time at all... LENO where was his jokes about it??? ALL GIVE HIM A PASS... thats the difference... DRUDGE HAS reported on it... none of us would have known that 320,00 was used to do this photo op... ALL the networks care about the swine flu bug... IF THIS WAS BUSH... you would still be slamming him...forgot you still are... and will for everthing that goes wrong even in the next 4 years... because none of it will be obamas fault...

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R

I agree. The press should be all over him. It wasn't his fault though. He runs the country, makes decisions, but doesn't micro manage the everyday ins and outs of the White House. This should fall on Emanuel..He runs the White House.

However, if you want to run smack, educate yourself Rick. Leno is a hardcore republican. This is a big mistake, Obama owned up to it, and that's that. No lies, no cover ups, no bushit. It's over with.

[Rockindeano]

"FYI: big ass jet gonna be buzzin' around Lady Liberty... don't worry, we're cool like a pool, baby, it's supposed to be there..."

Get your landmarks right. Lady Liberty sits atop the Capitol. The big green bitch in the harbour is the Statue of Liberty and she is actually in New Jersey.

[Rockindeano]

Oh and by the way, to all of you who just blasted the President- where were you fuckholes when W thouht it a great idea to land on a fuckin aircraft carrier onboard a fighter jet? You think that costs more than circling NYC/Jersey in AF1?

I know I know, it was all done for our military's self esteem. The Mission Accomplished banner and all. Talk about false advertising.

[lights1961]

Oh and by the way, to all of you who just blasted the President- where were you fuckholes when W thouht it a great idea to land on a fuckin aircraft carrier onboard a fighter jet? You think that costs more than circling NYC/Jersey in AF1?

I know I know, it was all done for our military's self esteem. The Mission Accomplished banner and all. Talk about false advertising.

funny how you still bring that up...

Um.. their mission was over... the fighter jets and the ships did what they were supposed to do...

[Gibby]

classic arrogance of leadership already in play, here. Can you imagine the media if Bush would have allowed this???? Holy ****.

R

SO TRUE!!!!! Bush would have been trashed in the media for this. Saw on the news that it cost an extra $400,000 for the photo op over the city. What a bunch of fucking idiots.

[Rockindeano]

Oh and by the way, to all of you who just blasted the President- where were you fuckholes when W thouht it a great idea to land on a fuckin aircraft carrier onboard a fighter jet? You think that costs more than circling NYC/Jersey in AF1?

I know I know, it was all done for our military's self esteem. The Mission Accomplished banner and all. Talk about false advertising.

funny how you still bring that up...

Um.. their mission was over... the fighter jets and the ships did what they were supposed to do...

Are you watching the news there in IA? Over? Dude, the Persian Gulf is still loaded with ships. And the war consists of more than just planes and ships.

I guess Karl Rove got to you.

Again, Mission Accomplished?

[Gibby]

i coud have photoshopped that and charged the government $200,000. a savings of $130,000!!

no panic and bad pr!!

You want to play this game? How many vacations did W Bush take to that fuckin' ranch of his? Care to calculate how many millions of dollars that costs us? You know, the taxpayer? Well I got the answer for you. Bush took 77 trips to Crawford, TX. 77 trips. Care to do the math on that one tree? 879 days of vacation in 8 years. Countless trips to Kennebunkport, Maine as well. Do the math.

I have no idea why someone thinks a photo op near the Statue of Liberty is so important, but that is hardly a waste of money compared to 77 fucking trips to Crawford, TX.

Dean, we both know that Obama will make numerous trips to Chicago, Hawaii, etc... during his 4 or 8 years. What happened here was just plain stupid, ignorant, arrogant, and unfeeling. Obama is stumbling out of the gate like no president I've seen - Democrat or Republican. Hey, he got my vote but I'm VERY worried about what I've seen so far. I think it's time to stop excusing Obama fuck ups by saying "oh yeah, well Bush did this and this and this". It's the kind of arguing heard on elementary school playgrounds. We're 100 days in and it's time to judge Obama on what he is doing today and not what other presidents did before him. The past is the past and it is there for us to learn from - it is not there to excuse the mistakes Obama makes today.

[Rockindeano]

I hear ya. No excuses, but dude, go back and read history. Every president stumbles out of the gate, and well, no president has had to start with the mess he has, but I agree.

As for Obama's "numerous" trips to Chicago(not sure about Hawaii), I can bet you it won't be 77!

[Gibby]

I guess Hawaii since he's been there a couple times already and he has family there (I think). We shall see what lies ahead.

[Rockindeano]

I guess Hawaii since he's been there a couple times already and he has family there (I think). We shall see what lies ahead.

Grandma used to live there but she croaked right before he Inauguration.

[treetopovskaya]

i coud have photoshopped that and charged the government $200,000. a savings of $130,000!!

no panic and bad pr!!

You want to play this game? How many vacations did W Bush take to that fuckin' ranch of his? Care to calculate how many millions of dollars that costs us? You know, the taxpayer? Well I got the answer for you. Bush took 77 trips to Crawford, TX. 77 trips. Care to do the math on that one tree? 879 days of vacation in 8 years. Countless trips to Kennebunkport, Maine as well. Do the math.

I have no idea why someone thinks a photo op near the Statue of Liberty is so important, but that is hardly a waste of money compared to 77 fucking trips to Crawford, TX.

you know very well that both the crawford ranch and kennebunkport have full facilities. nice try dean, review your "michael moore" talking points for a new one. go rent farenhype 911 for an honest rebuttal to a clearly propaganda film by moore.

wanna know what's abusive? nancy pelosi's use of air force one. google it, you may end up on fox news just to read something about it. nobody elected her to the speaker of the house position, yet she treats the jet like it's her personal airline.

[treetopovskaya]

Oh and by the way, to all of you who just blasted the President- where were you fuckholes when W thouht it a great idea to land on a fuckin aircraft carrier onboard a fighter jet? You think that costs more than circling NYC/Jersey in AF1?

I know I know, it was all done for our military's self esteem. The Mission Accomplished banner and all. Talk about false advertising.

funny how you still bring that up...

Um.. their mission was over... the fighter jets and the ships did what they were supposed to do...

Are you watching the news there in IA? Over? Dude, the Persian Gulf is still loaded with ships. And the war consists of more than just planes and ships.

I guess Karl Rove got to you.

Again, Mission Accomplished?

read closer dean. seriously? that carrier's tour of duty was over. it was a bad photo op, and it looked like bush was declaring the entire war was over. yeah so it was stupid. but there was a point. this stupid fly-over nyc was just plain stupid. no point. not necessary. scared innocent people. could have been a lot worse.

bush landing on an aircraft carrier? only hurt his administration. bush 1, obama 10 on the idiotic pr scale.

[StoneCold]

go rent farenhype 911 for an honest rebuttal to a clearly propaganda film by moore.

Gotta love youtube, why rent when its free:

FahrenHYPE 9/11 -Part 1/8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqb7jT47Al0

[treetopovskaya]

Expect many more ongoing obama blunders. Bowing to the king, and many others. jeesh...

Your bitterness is showing. I recognize that feeling. It's how I felt every day with Bush in his second term. Notice I said second term. Because the first term I actually supported my President and gave him the benefit of the doubt his first three years in office.

your contempt for any viewpoint other than yours is showing.

[treetopovskaya]

hehehee...

http://www.nydailynews.com/tech_guide/2 ... e_did.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/tech_guide/2 ... vered.html

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/? ... RkZWNiOGU=

[Rockindeano]

i coud have photoshopped that and charged the government $200,000. a savings of $130,000!!

no panic and bad pr!!

You want to play this game? How many vacations did W Bush take to that fuckin' ranch of his? Care to calculate how many millions of dollars that costs us? You know, the taxpayer? Well I got the answer for you. Bush took 77 trips to Crawford, TX. 77 trips. Care to do the math on that one tree? 879 days of vacation in 8 years. Countless trips to Kennebunkport, Maine as well. Do the math.

I have no idea why someone thinks a photo op near the Statue of Liberty is so important, but that is hardly a waste of money compared to 77 fucking trips to Crawford, TX.

you know very well that both the crawford ranch and kennebunkport have full facilities. nice try dean, review your "michael moore" talking points for a new one. go rent farenhype 911 for an honest rebuttal to a clearly propaganda film by moore.

wanna know what's abusive? nancy pelosi's use of air force one. google it, you may end up on fox news just to read something about it. nobody elected her to the speaker of the house position, yet she treats the jet like it's her personal airline.

Facilities? Who the hell is talking about facilities? I was referring to the number of trips Bush took. Facilities? What the fuck are you talking about with facilities? You mean a landing strip in Texas or Maine? That's all they need. An open field and a landing strip for a Heavy. You are so far behind what anyone here is talking about it's pure comedy.

As per Pelosi. No one gets elected to the Speaker of the House. The controlling party elects amongst itself, the SOTH. Jesus Christ, at least educate yourself in Civics and government before you try to argue. As for the plane, she can use it any damned time she wants. it's not her fault she comes from San Francisco and is 3,000 miles away from her workplace.

[StoneCold]

Crude as it may be, I'd get a chuckle if we found out the pilots did it as a prank. Flying that low at buildings with a fighter jet chasing it.

AF1 -"Fred, screw the statue shot, let's scare the bejeezus out of some folks. "

Fighter Fred - "Roger that, I'm your huckleberry."

While we're the comedic side of things.

Can anyone pick out bjgril76 here?:

[Rockindeano]

Can anyone pick out bjgril76 here?:

She's the one with the long neck and even longer tongue with the brown spots allover her.

[StoneCold]

Can anyone pick out bjgril76 here?:

She's the one with the long neck and even longer tongue with the brown spots allover her.

That's what I was thinkin'

bjgril?

[The_Noble_Cause]

THE DIFFERENCE deano is the PRESS WONT GIVE A DAMN about this, the regular networks spent hardly any time at all...

Total bullshit.
NBC's Brian Williams, who almost always refrains from op-eding, was even calling for someone's head on a platter.
I understand that liberal media scapegoating has become a Conservative rite of passage, but it might help if you actually watched the news before bitching.

IF THIS WAS BUSH... you would still be slamming him...forgot you still are... and will for everthing that goes wrong even in the next 4 years... because none of it will be obamas fault...
R

In general, sure, the bucks stops with the President.
But my immediate thought would not be to pin a botched publicity event at the President's feet.
You make it sound as if O was on the plane, like Bush flying over the water-logged bodies of New Orleans.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Expect many more ongoing obama blunders. Bowing to the king, and many others. jeesh...

Right.
Because a showing of diplomatic respect somehow changes the fact that we are the greatest military power in the world.
Ever hear of speak softly and carry a big stick?
Just another empty distraction for the politically braindead.