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[daytrpr]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

[Gideon]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

Yeah, but Arnel's phrasing is a little off and Cain's keyboards suck on the new version. The synth is seriously weak.

[daytrpr]

Well, the production kind of sucks on all of the tracks. DSB sounds like it was recorded on a Commodore Amiga.

[Jubilee]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

I have to admit, I haven't listened to any of the re-records, but IMHO Valory's bass playing has always been so far down in the mix as to seem non-existent. Must have been quite a challenge for him to try to replicate Randy Jackson's comparatively heavy-handed thumping.

[jrny84]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

Yeah, but Arnel's phrasing is a little off and Cain's keyboards suck on the new version. The synth is seriously weak.

Yeah I agree, the re-recorded hits sound pretty bad, compared to the originals. The vocals arent as good, most of the guitar and synthesizers parts are really weak, and the drums arent as strong. It was a bad idea re-recording the hits in the first place, Perry made those songs untouchable.

[Don]

I don't know the reasoning behind having Cain produce the re-records instead of Shirley.

[Gideon]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

Yeah, but Arnel's phrasing is a little off and Cain's keyboards suck on the new version. The synth is seriously weak.

Yeah I agree, the re-recorded hits sound pretty bad, compared to the originals. The vocals arent as good, most of the guitar and synthesizers parts are really weak, and the drums arent as strong. It was a bad idea re-recording the hits in the first place, Perry made those songs untouchable.

The vocals are pretty damn good, actually. Not necessarily better, though I prefer Arnel's take on "Open Arms." The guitar parts are fantastic, but Cain's synths are weak.

[portland]

Obviously someone thought it was a good idea.....I wonder who that was? JackAss!!

[Don]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

Yeah, but Arnel's phrasing is a little off and Cain's keyboards suck on the new version. The synth is seriously weak.

Yeah I agree, the re-recorded hits sound pretty bad, compared to the originals. The vocals arent as good, most of the guitar and synthesizers parts are really weak, and the drums arent as strong. It was a bad idea re-recording the hits in the first place, Perry made those songs untouchable.

The vocals are pretty damn good, actually. Not necessarily better, though I prefer Arnel's take on "Open Arms." The guitar parts are fantastic, but Cain's synths are weak.

And since he produced the disc, you would think the synths would be the one thing that should sound spot on.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I don't know the reasoning behind having Cain produce the re-records instead of Shirley.

Didn't someone on here say it came down to time?
They had to make that Walmart deadline...

[Gideon]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

Yeah, but Arnel's phrasing is a little off and Cain's keyboards suck on the new version. The synth is seriously weak.

Yeah I agree, the re-recorded hits sound pretty bad, compared to the originals. The vocals arent as good, most of the guitar and synthesizers parts are really weak, and the drums arent as strong. It was a bad idea re-recording the hits in the first place, Perry made those songs untouchable.

The vocals are pretty damn good, actually. Not necessarily better, though I prefer Arnel's take on "Open Arms." The guitar parts are fantastic, but Cain's synths are weak.

And since he produced the disc, you would think the synths would be the one thing that should sound spot on.

Not weak as in not loud, just lame. Not powerful. But I think he did better on DSB's synths this time around.

[portland]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

Yeah, but Arnel's phrasing is a little off and Cain's keyboards suck on the new version. The synth is seriously weak.

Yeah I agree, the re-recorded hits sound pretty bad, compared to the originals. The vocals arent as good, most of the guitar and synthesizers parts are really weak, and the drums arent as strong. It was a bad idea re-recording the hits in the first place, Perry made those songs untouchable.

The vocals are pretty damn good, actually. Not necessarily better, though I prefer Arnel's take on "Open Arms." The guitar parts are fantastic, but Cain's synths are weak.

Open Arms with someone else singing other than Steve Perry - I guess my age is showing, but for me it is untouchable....

[Gideon]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

Yeah, but Arnel's phrasing is a little off and Cain's keyboards suck on the new version. The synth is seriously weak.

Yeah I agree, the re-recorded hits sound pretty bad, compared to the originals. The vocals arent as good, most of the guitar and synthesizers parts are really weak, and the drums arent as strong. It was a bad idea re-recording the hits in the first place, Perry made those songs untouchable.

The vocals are pretty damn good, actually. Not necessarily better, though I prefer Arnel's take on "Open Arms." The guitar parts are fantastic, but Cain's synths are weak.

Open Arms with someone else singing other than Steve Perry - I guess my age is showing, but for me it is untouchable....

A lot of people think that, which is fine. I just think Arnel adds power to that power ballad that hadn't been there previously.

[Don]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

Yeah, but Arnel's phrasing is a little off and Cain's keyboards suck on the new version. The synth is seriously weak.

Yeah I agree, the re-recorded hits sound pretty bad, compared to the originals. The vocals arent as good, most of the guitar and synthesizers parts are really weak, and the drums arent as strong. It was a bad idea re-recording the hits in the first place, Perry made those songs untouchable.

The vocals are pretty damn good, actually. Not necessarily better, though I prefer Arnel's take on "Open Arms." The guitar parts are fantastic, but Cain's synths are weak.

And since he produced the disc, you would think the synths would be the one thing that should sound spot on.

Not weak as in not loud, just lame. Not powerful. But I think he did better on DSB's synths this time around.

I'm not talking about the volume either, it just has a fisher price sound, not normal for some reason.

[portland]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

Yeah, but Arnel's phrasing is a little off and Cain's keyboards suck on the new version. The synth is seriously weak.

Yeah I agree, the re-recorded hits sound pretty bad, compared to the originals. The vocals arent as good, most of the guitar and synthesizers parts are really weak, and the drums arent as strong. It was a bad idea re-recording the hits in the first place, Perry made those songs untouchable.

The vocals are pretty damn good, actually. Not necessarily better, though I prefer Arnel's take on "Open Arms." The guitar parts are fantastic, but Cain's synths are weak.

Open Arms with someone else singing other than Steve Perry - I guess my age is showing, but for me it is untouchable....

A lot of people think that, which is fine. I just think Arnel adds power to that power ballad that hadn't been there previously.

For me its Perry....its how I first heard it and for me I will keep it that way..but hey you knock yourself out.

[daytrpr]

Perry is better on every track. They're his songs. That being said, Arnel is pretty good on some of the rockers.

I thought the rerecordings were a bad idea and didn't even listen to them for months after buying the CD. My point was that it's cool that Ross finally got a crack to BGTY, and funny how to me, it sounds more like Journey than the original.

[Don]

For me , the song that I can only associate with SP is Who's crying now. I remember hearing it on the radio when Escape came out and I have never stopped hearing it. A/C radio seems to prefer it over open Arms and Faithfully, probably because it's a middle of the road tune. A ballad that has a nice edge to it. I have probably heard it every SINGLE day on the radio, here in L.A. for the last 14 years.

[Eric]

I don't know the reasoning behind having Cain produce the re-records instead of Shirley.

Didn't someone on here say it came down to time?
They had to make that Walmart deadline...

Thats what I recall as well....as well as Shirley saying something about they know how these songs should sound by now or something.

The thing most puzzling to me is why every track post-TBF does not sound as loud, crisp and full as the TBF tracks?

[portland]

For me , the song that I can only associate with SP is Who's crying now. I remember hearing it on the radio when Escape came out and I have never stopped hearing it. A/C radio seems to prefer it over open Arms and Faithfully, probably because it's a middle of the road tune. A ballad that has a nice edge to it. I have probably heard it every SINGLE day on the radio, here in L.A. for the last 14 years.

Agreed - It's a great song - but who wants to hear someone else sing it on the radio?

[hoagiepete]

Perry is better on every track. They're his songs. That being said, Arnel is pretty good on some of the rockers.

I thought the rerecordings were a bad idea and didn't even listen to them for months after buying the CD. My point was that it's cool that Ross finally got a crack to BGTY, and funny how to me, it sounds more like Journey than the original.

Listened to it through once. That was enough. Have the originals. Say no more.

[portland]

Perry is better on every track. They're his songs. That being said, Arnel is pretty good on some of the rockers.

I thought the rerecordings were a bad idea and didn't even listen to them for months after buying the CD. My point was that it's cool that Ross finally got a crack to BGTY, and funny how to me, it sounds more like Journey than the original.

Listened to it through once. That was enough. Have the originals. Say no more.

Game - Set - Match - Agreed

[jrny84]

Perry is better on every track. They're his songs. That being said, Arnel is pretty good on some of the rockers.

I thought the rerecordings were a bad idea and didn't even listen to them for months after buying the CD. My point was that it's cool that Ross finally got a crack to BGTY, and funny how to me, it sounds more like Journey than the original.

Exactly! In my opinion the studio versions of the songs Perry sang are completly untouchable. No one can sing the vocals and put the emotion and heart into the song like Perry, not even Arnel. Arnel is a good singer and definetly has a gift. The songs "After all these years" and "Turn down the world tonight" he definetly made his own. Still today I have not yet heard one re-recorded hit featuring Arnel on vocals on the radio, because most people want to hear the real deal, the original vocalist that made the song famous in the first place.

I listened to the Arnel versions once through and said thats enough for me. For me the originals still stand up as the best period.

[Jubilee]

My question about these re-records is this: Now what?

So, now the band has re-recorded these songs, what, for the sole purpose of having something to package the new CD with? If a person heard these re-records, and wanted to down-load them, unless they go off the beaten path to the Wal Mart site, they're going to end up down-loading the songs from iTunes, or something like it - and those songs will be the original recording with Perry. What, exactly, does Journey intend to do with these re-records?!?

[Don]

My question about these re-records is this: Now what?

So, now the band has re-recorded these songs, what, for the sole purpose of having something to package the new CD with? If a person heard these re-records, and wanted to down-load them, unless they go off the beaten path to the Wal Mart site, they're going to end up down-loading the songs from iTunes, or something like it - and those songs will be the original recording with Perry. What, exactly, does Journey intend to do with these re-records?!?

Neal had said something about the royalty percentage on the songs being greater with Walmart. It doesn't matter, like you said people would just download the original on Itunes anyway.
It was a one shot deal for the band to make one last run and they got some decent cash out of it. It won't happen again so I wouldn't worry about it.

[Jubilee]

My question about these re-records is this: Now what?

So, now the band has re-recorded these songs, what, for the sole purpose of having something to package the new CD with? If a person heard these re-records, and wanted to down-load them, unless they go off the beaten path to the Wal Mart site, they're going to end up down-loading the songs from iTunes, or something like it - and those songs will be the original recording with Perry. What, exactly, does Journey intend to do with these re-records?!?

Neal had said something about the royalty percentage on the songs being greater with Walmart. It doesn't matter, like you said people would just download the original on Itunes anyway.
It was a one shot deal for the band to make one last run and they got some decent cash out of it. It won't happen again so I wouldn't worry about it.

Hmmm...maybe that's why they didn't waste a whole lot of time and effort on production quality.

[whirlwind]

They would have better off rerecording Arrival and Generations. It would have been very interesting since many think that Arnel sounds like Perry.

[Since 78]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

I have been meaning to bring this up for some time, although its difficult to discuss the re-records since most here have " Never listened to them" for fear of turning into a Frog or that Perry will come and punch their cat or something. Anyway, I think Ross kicks Ass on this song, like he has something to prove. I also prefer Arnels version of OTY, he adds a little more enthusiasm and power to it.

[Jana]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

I have been meaning to bring this up for some time, although its difficult to discuss the re-records since most here have " Never listened to them" for fear of turning into a Frog or that Perry will come and punch their cat or something. Anyway, I think Ross kicks Ass on this song, like he has something to prove. I also prefer Arnels version of OTY, he adds a little more enthusiasm and power to it.

I pulled it out the other day. I hadn't listened to them since I bought Revelation. I agree. I like his Only the Young. I enjoy his Lights.

Technically Perry's Faithfully is perfection, not only vocally and in delivery but also in the weariness he gives emotionally to the song of a singer on the road, and I listen to it a lot as Faithfully is one of my all-time favorite songs and one of his best vocals ever. But I have Arnel's version on my iPod b/c I love running to it. What he lacks in polish on the song, I love the sheer power of his vocals and the crispness of his vocals. Burn me at the stake for listening to a rerecord more than once.

[Gideon]

That's the problem, I think. Despite his age, Arnel has a raw, unpolished mannerism to his voice. He's powerful, but Perry tried (and succeeded) to smooth the rough edges.

[Don]

Ross Valory on "Be Good to Yourself."

I dislike that the re-recordings for the most part, but this song now sounds like Journey with Ross's Frontier's era sounding bass track. Too bad Smitty isn't on it too.

Oh, Neal's solo is great too.

I have been meaning to bring this up for some time, although its difficult to discuss the re-records since most here have " Never listened to them" for fear of turning into a Frog or that Perry will come and punch their cat or something. Anyway, I think Ross kicks Ass on this song, like he has something to prove. I also prefer Arnels version of OTY, he adds a little more enthusiasm and power to it.

I pulled it out the other day. I hadn't listened to them since I bought Revelation. I agree. I like his Only the Young. I enjoy his Lights.

Technically Perry's Faithfully is perfection, not only vocally and in delivery but also in the weariness he gives emotionally to the song of a singer on the road, and I listen to it a lot as Faithfully is one of my all-time favorite songs and one of his best vocals ever. But I have Arnel's version on my iPod b/c I love running to it. What he lacks in polish on the song, I love the sheer power of his vocals and the crispness of his vocals. Burn me at the stake for listening to a rerecord more than once.

Would nasty PM's be an acceptable alternative?