OT - Britney "shakes a little"

[stevew2]

Fan scares her by rushing onstage. Check 0:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjPuAaG2DuY

Hahahaaaaaa....First Milli Vanilli "busted", now this....

YAY CONNECTICUT!!

Everyone knows she lipsyncs, I don't see what the deal is. Any act that does all the dance moves and such always uses playback.

It's a big deal in a sense because it's a ripoff if people are paying to hear a singer perform live. Well, she's supposedly a singer..so a singer should be able to sing....she can't sing worth a darn..not even slow songs with no dancing. Spears singing ability is a product of studio magic. A Spears show is nothing more than a burlesque show....and if that's all anyone expects or cares about seeing and they don't care if shes faking it or not... fine, they can pay to be entertained in that way if they want but it certainly isn't a "concert" music wise.
She is simply a burlesque entertainer who can't accurately be defined as a talented musician...or real singer, imo.

Journey did the same thing,Lipping}at least she is hot, all that airbrush talk is bullshit, she squrited out the kid,she worked and looks good as shit. She doesn't even even know what the fuck burlesque means.She is makin it,most artist in her category are doing the same thing, she is just doing it better

Wrong for Journey to do but all right for a hot chick....double standard isn't it? She doesn't seem to have a real high IQ given some of the things she's done and said, I agree... but she apparently knows the meaning of burlesque. I agree she's been working it and getting paid but she still hasn't proven herself as a singer live at all. The amount of money made isn't the barometer for proving talent and there are many things that factor into success ...also how you define what success means to each individual. She got the chance at the top due to image more than for any other reason..then that image was manufactured further. It is a shame that music has become so visually based because there are many really talented people who don't get a shot at the top. Back in the days of radio it didn't matter what someone looked like so they had to bring the talent. Music used to be sound based not image based.

I think it sucks to,thats the way it is, altough there was some real talent a couple years back {Jewel] maybe a few more,i couldnt get through all of your post,its a machine that uses videos to promote their songs,and they show there ass,and titties. That is the way it is nowadays.i like watchin it,no way I would buy it. Kids with there ipods , {using there parents credit car} will. thats life

Ok...I get where you're coming from......all except that picture you posted..don't get that at all.

That was a bonus for Friga and Andrew he liketh

[Blueskies]

I don't care if she lips, she looks good shakin' what God gave her and swingin' a baton.

These guys, Chas and Dave are definitely not lookers but I think they have talent. I think Britney would be the bomb on a cover of this. She'd be great on stage doing a dance to it in a playboy outfit with a little bunny tail. The skimpier the better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOSseI1hao8

Thats the point...if you just want to see someones tits and ass then go to a strip joint or go see a burlesque act in Vegas or pick up a magazine. A concert stage should be left to those who have the talent to actually perform their music ..not just be able to shake their tail feathers with little on. Look at Stevie Nicks...she performs the music fully clothed and doesn't do dance routines.....so even though many men find her attractive they go to not only view her but to hear her sing.....so she's been admired and respected for her music talent not just due to her appearance. IMO, burlesque acts should be in Vegas and live music performance left to the concert stage.

[StoneCold]

Here's a group of Britney wanna be's. I don't think they can sing either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KV8sJL2QII


These girls can sing though, mmm hmm, they sing good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3wgaWAH ... annel_page


Maybe if Friga put on pink tights and shook it for Stevew2 tapegate would be forgiven.

[stevew2]

I don't care if she lips, she looks good shakin' what God gave her and swingin' a baton.

These guys, Chas and Dave are definitely not lookers but I think they have talent. I think Britney would be the bomb on a cover of this. She'd be great on stage doing a dance to it in a playboy outfit with a little bunny tail. The skimpier the better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOSseI1hao8

Thats the point...if you just want to see someones tits and ass then go to a strip joint or go see a burlesque act in Vegas or pick up a magazine. A concert stage should be left to those who have the talent to actually perform their music ..not just be able to shake their tail feathers with little on. Look at Stevie Nicks...she performs the music fully clothed and doesn't do dance routines.....so even though many men find her attractive they go to not only view her but to hear her sing.....so she's been admired and respected for her music talent not just due to her appearance. IMO, burlesque acts should be in Vegas and live music performance left to the concert stage.

There is no comparision from anyone to Stevie Nicks,she is one of the best performers period,and she still looks hot at 60??

[Blueskies]

I don't care if she lips, she looks good shakin' what God gave her and swingin' a baton.

These guys, Chas and Dave are definitely not lookers but I think they have talent. I think Britney would be the bomb on a cover of this. She'd be great on stage doing a dance to it in a playboy outfit with a little bunny tail. The skimpier the better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOSseI1hao8

Thats the point...if you just want to see someones tits and ass then go to a strip joint or go see a burlesque act in Vegas or pick up a magazine. A concert stage should be left to those who have the talent to actually perform their music ..not just be able to shake their tail feathers with little on. Look at Stevie Nicks...she performs the music fully clothed and doesn't do dance routines.....so even though many men find her attractive they go to not only view her but to hear her sing.....so she's been admired and respected for her music talent not just due to her appearance. IMO, burlesque acts should be in Vegas and live music performance left to the concert stage.

There is no comparision from anyone to Stevie Nicks,she is one of the best performers period,and she still looks hot at 60??

Yes, I agree she's a great performer. I'll let you in on a little inside info on her that my cousin Dave the guitarist told me...
He has worked with her and he told me the first time he met her she invited him to her home....he said she was very welcoming and wanted everyone there to relax and feel at home.....he said the decor matched her personality..a little bit eclectic , like how she dresses, but tastefully done. He said shes a bit of a task master when it comes to the work...a perfectionist with a strong work ethic but that she is a warm, friendly , gracious woman....at least that was his experience when he was around her.

[stevew2]

Thanks for the info Phylis,I saw her on a concert/interveiw last night,she is really cool,decided not to have kids, and devoted her life to being an artist.She is real and made her choice to do that .Its not for everyone, but she made that choice to do so,and she kicked ass on the concert afterwards

[Blueskies]

Thanks for the info Phylis,I saw her on a concert/interveiw last night,she is really cool,decided not to have kids, and devoted her life to being an artist.She is real and made her choice to do that .Its not for everyone, but she made that choice to do so,and she kicked ass on the concert afterwards

You're welcome. Yes, I can understand her decision...she couldn't have fully devoted herself to her career with children...not totally anyway.
Have to clean my paint brushes and get some sleep. Have a good night.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Fan scares her by rushing onstage. Check 0:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjPuAaG2DuY

Zero talent. I just don't see how they sell enough tickets to have the show. What's the attraction here? Just a bunch of fucktards dancing around a queen fucktard on stage to prerecorded music is all. I don't get it.

[StoneCold]

Fan scares her by rushing onstage. Check 0:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjPuAaG2DuY

Zero talent. I just don't see how they sell enough tickets to have the show. What's the attraction here? Just a bunch of fucktards dancing around a queen fucktard on stage to prerecorded music is all. I don't get it.

A little angsty?

She's got fans that were 7-13 years old in 1999, putting them at 17-23 today. That's a big pool to draw from.

Compare with Madonna who no longer looks good (bleh) and whose fans left her long ago. Yet Madonna had one of the top grossing tours last year.

Joking aside, I wouldn't pay to see Brit but not surprised she sells tix. More power to her, at least she has this to keep her centered and occupied. The alternative isn't be pretty.

[stevew2]

Here's a group of Britney wanna be's. I don't think they can sing either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KV8sJL2QII


These girls can sing though, mmm hmm, they sing good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3wgaWAH ... annel_page


Maybe if Friga put on pink tights and shook it for Stevew2 tapegate would be forgiven.

i will never forgive that never

[bluejeangirl76]

Fan scares her by rushing onstage. Check 0:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjPuAaG2DuY

Zero talent. I just don't see how they sell enough tickets to have the show. What's the attraction here? Just a bunch of fucktards dancing around a queen fucktard on stage to prerecorded music is all. I don't get it.

Agreed in full, Sir Sushi. I don't get it either.

[StoneCold]

Fan scares her by rushing onstage. Check 0:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjPuAaG2DuY

Zero talent. I just don't see how they sell enough tickets to have the show. What's the attraction here? Just a bunch of fucktards dancing around a queen fucktard on stage to prerecorded music is all. I don't get it.

Agreed in full, Sir Sushi. I don't get it either.

Blue, are your jeans too tight? I splained it all up above and well you kinda splained it on the first page.

Its not about the singing, its about the swingin'. Hips that is.

[bluejeangirl76]

Fan scares her by rushing onstage. Check 0:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjPuAaG2DuY

Zero talent. I just don't see how they sell enough tickets to have the show. What's the attraction here? Just a bunch of fucktards dancing around a queen fucktard on stage to prerecorded music is all. I don't get it.

Agreed in full, Sir Sushi. I don't get it either.

Blue, are your jeans too tight? I splained it all up above and well you kinda splained it on the first page.

Its not about the singing, its about the swingin'. Hips that is.

A) I didn't read what you said above and B) I liked Sushi's way of explaining it: fucktards dancing around the queen fucktard. If you want to look at tits and ass, buy a playboy or a porn tape, not a $100 ticket to see Madam Trainwreck pretending she has talent.

[brywool]

Not that worried about Britney....


But


Please, let's get to the important part of this:

Where I can get an outfit like that for my wife???

[Don]

Fan scares her by rushing onstage. Check 0:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjPuAaG2DuY

Hahahaaaaaa....First Milli Vanilli "busted", now this....

YAY CONNECTICUT!!

Everyone knows she lipsyncs, I don't see what the deal is. Any act that does all the dance moves and such always uses playback.

It's a big deal in a sense because it's a ripoff if people are paying to hear a singer perform live. Well, she's supposedly a singer..so a singer should be able to sing....she can't sing worth a darn..not even slow songs with no dancing. Spears singing ability is a product of studio magic. A Spears show is nothing more than a burlesque show....and if that's all anyone expects or cares about seeing and they don't care if shes faking it or not... fine, they can pay to be entertained in that way if they want but it certainly isn't a "concert" music wise.
She is simply a burlesque entertainer who can't accurately be defined as a talented musician...or real singer, imo.

Journey did the same thing,Lipping}at least she is hot, all that airbrush talk is bullshit, she squrited out the kid,she worked and looks good as shit. She doesn't even even know what the fuck burlesque means.She is makin it,most artist in her category are doing the same thing, she is just doing it better

Wrong for Journey to do but all right for a hot chick....double standard isn't it?

There should be a double standard. Journey is a rock group that delivers one product on stage, music. No cabaret, no dancing just music. They are only offering that one product so it should be live.

Britney is an entertainer. She dances and does a stage show with back up performers and the whole nine yards. The singing is just part of a bigger production that she is putting on. Most of the fans that watch her know what she is bringing to the table. N-Sync, 98 degrees and all the boy bands did the same thing. It's impossible to sing doing some of the moves they perform during their routine.
Ask her fans if they care if she lipsyncs, it's their money and they seem happy to receive the product that she is giving them regardless.
It doesn't matter if we think she's talentless. She has fans that get great enjoyment from her act and that is all that matters.

Look at her audience out there. It's not a group of perverts looking to see T&A, it's mostly younger girls and teenagers with a few older fans sprinkled in.

[Blueskies]

Fan scares her by rushing onstage. Check 0:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjPuAaG2DuY

Hahahaaaaaa....First Milli Vanilli "busted", now this....

YAY CONNECTICUT!!

Everyone knows she lipsyncs, I don't see what the deal is. Any act that does all the dance moves and such always uses playback.

It's a big deal in a sense because it's a ripoff if people are paying to hear a singer perform live. Well, she's supposedly a singer..so a singer should be able to sing....she can't sing worth a darn..not even slow songs with no dancing. Spears singing ability is a product of studio magic. A Spears show is nothing more than a burlesque show....and if that's all anyone expects or cares about seeing and they don't care if shes faking it or not... fine, they can pay to be entertained in that way if they want but it certainly isn't a "concert" music wise.
She is simply a burlesque entertainer who can't accurately be defined as a talented musician...or real singer, imo.

Journey did the same thing,Lipping}at least she is hot, all that airbrush talk is bullshit, she squrited out the kid,she worked and looks good as shit. She doesn't even even know what the fuck burlesque means.She is makin it,most artist in her category are doing the same thing, she is just doing it better

Wrong for Journey to do but all right for a hot chick....double standard isn't it?

There should be a double standard. Journey is a rock group that delivers one product on stage, music. No cabaret, no dancing just music. They are only offering that one product so it should be live.

Britney is an entertainer. She dances and does a stage show with back up performers and the whole nine yards. The singing is just part of a bigger production that she is putting on. Most of the fans that watch her know what she is bringing to the table. N-Sync, 98 degrees and all the boy bands did the same thing. It's impossible to sing doing some of the moves they perform during their routine.
Ask her fans if they care if she lipsyncs, it's their money and they seem happy to receive the product that she is giving them regardless.
It doesn't matter if we think she's talentless. She has fans that get great enjoyment from her act and that is all that matters.

I've already made my points in this thread that her act is really no different than a burlesque act when she is dancing with a troupe with little on and not singing live. Hey like I said previously as well...if that's what someone wants to pay to see then fine. The singing isn't a part of a bigger production like you say though, if no singing is being done.
No, she is far from being the only one who has lipped throughout a performance and yes I know that it's hard to sing and dance at the same time but others have done it....to name a few...Shirley Maclaine, Judy Garland, Ann Margaret, Ann Miller, Sammy Davis Jr., Gene Kelley, and Donald O'Connor...and those are just the ones that come right to mind.....many people have sung and danced at the same time from vaudeville to Broadway. In the movies of those I mentioned, yes the singing was recorded and the dance numbers filmed separately but when performing a live stage production the singing was done live.

[Jubilee]

Fan scares her by rushing onstage. Check 0:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjPuAaG2DuY

Hahahaaaaaa....First Milli Vanilli "busted", now this....

YAY CONNECTICUT!!

Everyone knows she lipsyncs, I don't see what the deal is. Any act that does all the dance moves and such always uses playback.

It's a big deal in a sense because it's a ripoff if people are paying to hear a singer perform live. Well, she's supposedly a singer..so a singer should be able to sing....she can't sing worth a darn..not even slow songs with no dancing. Spears singing ability is a product of studio magic. A Spears show is nothing more than a burlesque show....and if that's all anyone expects or cares about seeing and they don't care if shes faking it or not... fine, they can pay to be entertained in that way if they want but it certainly isn't a "concert" music wise.
She is simply a burlesque entertainer who can't accurately be defined as a talented musician...or real singer, imo.

Journey did the same thing,Lipping}at least she is hot, all that airbrush talk is bullshit, she squrited out the kid,she worked and looks good as shit. She doesn't even even know what the fuck burlesque means.She is makin it,most artist in her category are doing the same thing, she is just doing it better

Wrong for Journey to do but all right for a hot chick....double standard isn't it?

There should be a double standard. Journey is a rock group that delivers one product on stage, music. No cabaret, no dancing just music. They are only offering that one product so it should be live.

Britney is an entertainer. She dances and does a stage show with back up performers and the whole nine yards. The singing is just part of a bigger production that she is putting on. Most of the fans that watch her know what she is bringing to the table. N-Sync, 98 degrees and all the boy bands did the same thing. It's impossible to sing doing some of the moves they perform during their routine.
Ask her fans if they care if she lipsyncs, it's their money and they seem happy to receive the product that she is giving them regardless.
It doesn't matter if we think she's talentless. She has fans that get great enjoyment from her act and that is all that matters.

I've already made my points in this thread that her act is really no different than a burlesque act when she is dancing with a troupe with little on and not singing live. Hey like I said previously as well...if that's what someone wants to pay to see then fine. The singing isn't a part of a bigger production like you say though, if no singing is being done.
No, she is far from being the only one who has lipped throughout a performance and yes I know that it's hard to sing and dance at the same time but others have done it....to name a few...Shirley Maclaine, Judy Garland, Ann Margaret, Ann Miller, Sammy Davis Jr., Gene Kelley, and Donald O'Connor...and those are just the ones that come right to mind.....many people have sung and danced at the same time from vaudeville to Broadway. In the movies of those I mentioned, yes the singing was recorded and the dance numbers filmed separately but when performing a live stage production the singing was done live.

Have to go with Gunbot on this one. It's Brittany Spears, for heavens sake. Brittany freakin' Spears. People who buy tickets are getting just what they pay for - a SHOW. That means lights, pyrotechnics, gyrating dancers, live animals and anything else they can cram in to a 90 min. show. Let's face it, we're not talking about an evening with Beverly Sills or Leontyne Price. No one's coming to hear "An Evening of the Vocal Stylings of Brittany Spears". It's all about the show. As for earlier entertainers doing both, as great as they were, they most certainly did NOT do both at the same time. They sang, threw in a dance number, and sang - or something to that effect. They decidedly DID NOT do both simultaineously for an entire show. Vaudville acts came out on stage, did their act then promptly exited and make way for the next act. Brit's not my cup of tea, and she'll never see a dime of my money, but she does what she's supposed to do...entertain.

[bluejeangirl76]

No one's coming to hear "An Evening of the Vocal Stylings of Brittany Spears".

Of course not... there's a cheaper alternative...

[Jubilee]

No one's coming to hear "An Evening of the Vocal Stylings of Brittany Spears".

Of course not... there's a cheaper alternative...

[Blueskies]

Fan scares her by rushing onstage. Check 0:41

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjPuAaG2DuY

Hahahaaaaaa....First Milli Vanilli "busted", now this....

YAY CONNECTICUT!!

Everyone knows she lipsyncs, I don't see what the deal is. Any act that does all the dance moves and such always uses playback.

It's a big deal in a sense because it's a ripoff if people are paying to hear a singer perform live. Well, she's supposedly a singer..so a singer should be able to sing....she can't sing worth a darn..not even slow songs with no dancing. Spears singing ability is a product of studio magic. A Spears show is nothing more than a burlesque show....and if that's all anyone expects or cares about seeing and they don't care if shes faking it or not... fine, they can pay to be entertained in that way if they want but it certainly isn't a "concert" music wise.
She is simply a burlesque entertainer who can't accurately be defined as a talented musician...or real singer, imo.

Journey did the same thing,Lipping}at least she is hot, all that airbrush talk is bullshit, she squrited out the kid,she worked and looks good as shit. She doesn't even even know what the fuck burlesque means.She is makin it,most artist in her category are doing the same thing, she is just doing it better

Wrong for Journey to do but all right for a hot chick....double standard isn't it?

There should be a double standard. Journey is a rock group that delivers one product on stage, music. No cabaret, no dancing just music. They are only offering that one product so it should be live.

Britney is an entertainer. She dances and does a stage show with back up performers and the whole nine yards. The singing is just part of a bigger production that she is putting on. Most of the fans that watch her know what she is bringing to the table. N-Sync, 98 degrees and all the boy bands did the same thing. It's impossible to sing doing some of the moves they perform during their routine.
Ask her fans if they care if she lipsyncs, it's their money and they seem happy to receive the product that she is giving them regardless.
It doesn't matter if we think she's talentless. She has fans that get great enjoyment from her act and that is all that matters.

I've already made my points in this thread that her act is really no different than a burlesque act when she is dancing with a troupe with little on and not singing live. Hey like I said previously as well...if that's what someone wants to pay to see then fine. The singing isn't a part of a bigger production like you say though, if no singing is being done.
No, she is far from being the only one who has lipped throughout a performance and yes I know that it's hard to sing and dance at the same time but others have done it....to name a few...Shirley Maclaine, Judy Garland, Ann Margaret, Ann Miller, Sammy Davis Jr., Gene Kelley, and Donald O'Connor...and those are just the ones that come right to mind.....many people have sung and danced at the same time from vaudeville to Broadway. In the movies of those I mentioned, yes the singing was recorded and the dance numbers filmed separately but when performing a live stage production the singing was done live.

Have to go with Gunbot on this one. It's Brittany Spears, for heavens sake. Brittany freakin' Spears. People who buy tickets are getting just what they pay for - a SHOW. That means lights, pyrotechnics, gyrating dancers, live animals and anything else they can cram in to a 90 min. show. Let's face it, we're not talking about an evening with Beverly Sills or Leontyne Price. No one's coming to hear "An Evening of the Vocal Stylings of Brittany Spears". It's all about the show. As for earlier entertainers doing both, as great as they were, they most certainly did NOT do both at the same time. They sang, threw in a dance number, and sang - or something to that effect. They decidedly DID NOT do both simultaineously for an entire show. Vaudville acts came out on stage, did their act then promptly exited and make way for the next act. Brit's not my cup of tea, and she'll never see a dime of my money, but she does what she's supposed to do...entertain.

Yes, I know who we are talking about and thats been one of the points...she is not a good singer..she doesn't sing live so it's in my view nothing but a burlesque act....and as I have repeatedly said in this thread...if thats what someone wants to pay and see, then fine.. yes she's an entertainer but imo not really a singer...so I don't see where there is a disagreement in that.
I will differ with your second point...
As I said, in the movies then the singing of the performers I mentioned wasn't done live...BUT in stage performances they did dance and sing live...many coming from a stage background where they had to do it live. You are not correct when you say that any of those performers never did a whole live performance dancing and singing....two good examples out of those I mentioned being Shirley Maclaine and Ann Margaret...who both did stage productions singing and dancing live...Maclaine did stage shows for a number of years .....and she didn't dance one get off then come back on and only sing....and I could give other examples. There are musical productions on Broadway where the leads have both sung and danced throughout the show. If you would do some research first before stating so emphatically that I am flat out wrong...you will find that to be the case.

[Jubilee]

Yes, I know who we are talking about and thats been one of the points...she is not a good singer..she doesn't sing live so it's in my view nothing but a burlesque act....and as I have repeatedly said in this thread...if thats what someone wants to pay and see, then fine.. yes she's an entertainer but imo not really a singer...so I don't see where there is a disagreement in that.
I will differ with your second point...
As I said, in the movies then the singing of the performers I mentioned wasn't done live...BUT in stage performances they did dance and sing live...many coming from a stage background where they had to do it live. You are not correct when you say that any of those performers never did a whole live performance dancing and singing....two good examples out of those I mentioned being Shirley Maclaine and Ann Margaret...who both did stage productions singing and dancing live...Maclaine did stage shows for a number of years .....and she didn't dance one get off then come back on and only sing....and I could give other examples. There are musical productions on Broadway where the leads have both sung and danced throughout the show. If you would do some research first before stating so emphatically that I am flat out wrong...you will find that to be the case.

I admire your tenacity.

Perhaps I was unclear, I did not mean these great performers did not do shows where they sang and danced live, what I meant to say is that you cannot do both at the same time for an entire show. No matter how fit you are, there's only so much air you can breathe. Shows are generally staged so the performers are either doing one thing or the other, or, both at a reduced rate for a brief period. Singing takes a lot of air/breath control and dancing even more so, so something has go to give. In Brittany's case, they've decided they can have it all via lip sync.

here are a few clips of the fabulous Ms. Shirley MacLaine - note the spacing of the singing/dancing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-seFaZM_9gw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Fr1xn2lB4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBZdhxYhA3s

[Blueskies]

Yes, I know who we are talking about and thats been one of the points...she is not a good singer..she doesn't sing live so it's in my view nothing but a burlesque act....and as I have repeatedly said in this thread...if thats what someone wants to pay and see, then fine.. yes she's an entertainer but imo not really a singer...so I don't see where there is a disagreement in that.
I will differ with your second point...
As I said, in the movies then the singing of the performers I mentioned wasn't done live...BUT in stage performances they did dance and sing live...many coming from a stage background where they had to do it live. You are not correct when you say that any of those performers never did a whole live performance dancing and singing....two good examples out of those I mentioned being Shirley Maclaine and Ann Margaret...who both did stage productions singing and dancing live...Maclaine did stage shows for a number of years .....and she didn't dance one get off then come back on and only sing....and I could give other examples. There are musical productions on Broadway where the leads have both sung and danced throughout the show. If you would do some research first before stating so emphatically that I am flat out wrong...you will find that to be the case.

I admire your tenacity.

Perhaps I was unclear, I did not mean these great performers did not do shows where they sang and danced live, what I meant to say is that you cannot do both at the same time for an entire show. No matter how fit you are, there's only so much air you can breathe. Shows are generally staged so the performers are either doing one thing or the other, or, both at a reduced rate for a brief period. Singing takes a lot of air/breath control and dancing even more so, so something has go to give. In Brittany's case, they've decided they can have it all via lip sync.

here are a few clips of the fabulous Ms. Shirley MacLaine - note the spacing of the singing/dancing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-seFaZM_9gw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Fr1xn2lB4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBZdhxYhA3s

Thanks! Goes to show she did SING and dance at the same time! There are many examples of others. AND I will say that youtube clips arent the whole show in its entirety. I didn't say there was never any spacing at all now did I?? So why are you trying to make out like I did? Have you been to a Spears concert or anyone elses who lips it? They have some spacing as well...thats why they have so many costume changes and put slow songs in certain places...they will even have stage set changes...not only for variety but to catch their breath! Yes, even those that only dance like Spears do some spacing. The main point being that there ARE those who can sing live and dance throughout a performance.
Oh...and what you meant to say previously is not what you did say. but I admire your tenacity!

[Jana]

Britney is a joke anymore b/c not one person expects her to sing one song live. Not one. That is pathetic. She's a singer and everyone knows she can't sing now.
But I guess I'm a bigger loser I have two of her songs from Blackout that I run to.

[Jubilee]

Yes, I know who we are talking about and thats been one of the points...she is not a good singer..she doesn't sing live so it's in my view nothing but a burlesque act....and as I have repeatedly said in this thread...if thats what someone wants to pay and see, then fine.. yes she's an entertainer but imo not really a singer...so I don't see where there is a disagreement in that.
I will differ with your second point...
As I said, in the movies then the singing of the performers I mentioned wasn't done live...BUT in stage performances they did dance and sing live...many coming from a stage background where they had to do it live. You are not correct when you say that any of those performers never did a whole live performance dancing and singing....two good examples out of those I mentioned being Shirley Maclaine and Ann Margaret...who both did stage productions singing and dancing live...Maclaine did stage shows for a number of years .....and she didn't dance one get off then come back on and only sing....and I could give other examples. There are musical productions on Broadway where the leads have both sung and danced throughout the show. If you would do some research first before stating so emphatically that I am flat out wrong...you will find that to be the case.

I admire your tenacity.

Perhaps I was unclear, I did not mean these great performers did not do shows where they sang and danced live, what I meant to say is that you cannot do both at the same time for an entire show. No matter how fit you are, there's only so much air you can breathe. Shows are generally staged so the performers are either doing one thing or the other, or, both at a reduced rate for a brief period. Singing takes a lot of air/breath control and dancing even more so, so something has go to give. In Brittany's case, they've decided they can have it all via lip sync.

here are a few clips of the fabulous Ms. Shirley MacLaine - note the spacing of the singing/dancing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-seFaZM_9gw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Fr1xn2lB4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBZdhxYhA3s

Thanks! Goes to show she did SING and dance at the same time! There are many examples of others. AND I will say that youtube clips arent the whole show in its entirety. I didn't say there was never any spacing at all now did I?? So why are you trying to make out like I did? Have you been to a Spears concert or anyone elses who lips it? They have some spacing as well...thats why they have so many costume changes and put slow songs in certain places...they will even have stage set changes...not only for variety but to catch their breath! Yes, even those that only dance like Spears do some spacing. The main point being that there ARE those who can sing live and dance throughout a performance.
Oh...and what you meant to say previously is not what you did say. but I admire your tenacity!

When did I say you said that?

From those clips, which are admittedly not the show in it's entirety, it is also apparent that when there is dancing, the singing is minimal. When the dancing picks up there is no singing. That's the point I was getting at re: performers not being able to sing and dance simultaneously for an entire show, and the spacing. Additionally, in this instance, the songs aren't particularly complicated (i.e. lots of words to trip up on) as opposed to songs typically performed by pop singers such as Ms. Spears. I suppose Ms. Spears could chuck the elaborate dance routines and concentrate on her singing, but then where would she be? Her singing sucks.

[Blueskies]

Yes, I know who we are talking about and thats been one of the points...she is not a good singer..she doesn't sing live so it's in my view nothing but a burlesque act....and as I have repeatedly said in this thread...if thats what someone wants to pay and see, then fine.. yes she's an entertainer but imo not really a singer...so I don't see where there is a disagreement in that.
I will differ with your second point...
As I said, in the movies then the singing of the performers I mentioned wasn't done live...BUT in stage performances they did dance and sing live...many coming from a stage background where they had to do it live. You are not correct when you say that any of those performers never did a whole live performance dancing and singing....two good examples out of those I mentioned being Shirley Maclaine and Ann Margaret...who both did stage productions singing and dancing live...Maclaine did stage shows for a number of years .....and she didn't dance one get off then come back on and only sing....and I could give other examples. There are musical productions on Broadway where the leads have both sung and danced throughout the show. If you would do some research first before stating so emphatically that I am flat out wrong...you will find that to be the case.

I admire your tenacity.

Perhaps I was unclear, I did not mean these great performers did not do shows where they sang and danced live, what I meant to say is that you cannot do both at the same time for an entire show. No matter how fit you are, there's only so much air you can breathe. Shows are generally staged so the performers are either doing one thing or the other, or, both at a reduced rate for a brief period. Singing takes a lot of air/breath control and dancing even more so, so something has go to give. In Brittany's case, they've decided they can have it all via lip sync.

here are a few clips of the fabulous Ms. Shirley MacLaine - note the spacing of the singing/dancing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-seFaZM_9gw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Fr1xn2lB4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBZdhxYhA3s

Thanks! Goes to show she did SING and dance at the same time! There are many examples of others. AND I will say that youtube clips arent the whole show in its entirety. I didn't say there was never any spacing at all now did I?? So why are you trying to make out like I did? Have you been to a Spears concert or anyone elses who lips it? They have some spacing as well...thats why they have so many costume changes and put slow songs in certain places...they will even have stage set changes...not only for variety but to catch their breath! Yes, even those that only dance like Spears do some spacing. The main point being that there ARE those who can sing live and dance throughout a performance.
Oh...and what you meant to say previously is not what you did say. but I admire your tenacity!

When did I say you said that?

From those clips, which are admittedly not the show in it's entirety, it is also apparent that when there is dancing, the singing is minimal. When the dancing picks up there is no singing. That's the point I was getting at re: performers not being able to sing and dance simultaneously for an entire show, and the spacing. Additionally, in this instance, the songs aren't particularly complicated (i.e. lots of words to trip up on) as opposed to songs typically performed by pop singers such as Ms. Spears. I suppose Ms. Spears could chuck the elaborate dance routines and concentrate on her singing, but then where would she be? Her singing sucks.

and I've been to shows where the singing while dancing wasn't minimal at all.

Like I said..there is spacing in Spears show as well.

Spears songs are more complicated?? ok... lol

Finally you bring it back to the points I have been making from the start...she has to lip...not only due to dancing but because her singing sucks. Therefore due to it sucking as well as lipping it in concert she doesn't really deserve to be considered a singer. Entertainer? yes..in my view she puts on a good burlesque show, nothing more.

[johnroxx]

Laughing my ass off at "queen fucktard"...

;^)

[The Sushi Hunter]

Britney is an entertainer. She dances and does a stage show with back up performers and the whole nine yards. The singing is just part of a bigger production that she is putting on. Most of the fans that watch her know what she is bringing to the table. N-Sync, 98 degrees and all the boy bands did the same thing. It's impossible to sing doing some of the moves they perform during their routine.
Ask her fans if they care if she lipsyncs, it's their money and they seem happy to receive the product that she is giving them regardless.
It doesn't matter if we think she's talentless. She has fans that get great enjoyment from her act and that is all that matters.

Look at her audience out there. It's not a group of perverts looking to see T&A, it's mostly younger girls and teenagers with a few older fans sprinkled in.

Yeah, well I was reading somewhere that a lot of her so called fans that had gone to one of her recent shows were not happy that this "entertainer", if you will, spent about as much time back stage as she did actually "performing". The show had lots of lights, sparks and fire and lots of people at the show were oohing and aahing at those each time they would happen. Get the same effect when you strike a match and show fire to a bunch of monkeys.

I never really cared for Madonna that much but even though, Madonna in the mid 80's was far more talented then Britney ever was and ever will be.

[StoneCold]

... I have two of her songs from Blackout that I run to.

What are those two tracks?

[stevew2]

Or after having 2 kids. Why is it that every time a picture of a hot female is in any magazine or television, another female has to say that it was airbrushed? Most women who say that could use airbrush help themselves.
reeeeerrrrrr.

It's like when some women have to comment about other women who wear too much makeup. Why is it that the women who say that are usually the ones who wear almost none, and could sure as hell use the help.

I suppose its the same reason guys get their BVD's in a twist whenever women go ga-ga over some dude, then proceed to throw down the "he probably gay" card. I suppose there is some sort of anthropological/evolutionary/competitive/survival purpose for this, but I swear I don't know what it is.

Good point. I don't do that, so I can't tell you why. I'm comfortable enough in my masculinity to admit when a dude is good looking. I have no problem doing that.

Dudes don't look good. I don't know how women want anything to do with us. Ugly ass ballsacks and shit like that. No wonder there are so many lesbian couples in the world.

i ve had complements on my nuts thank you

[StoneCold]

Dudes don't look good. I don't know how women want anything to do with us. Ugly ass ballsacks and shit like that. No wonder there are so many lesbian couples in the world.

i ve had complements on my nuts thank you

Blueskies saying your nuts doesn't count.