Street Talk VS Raised On Radio

[Blueskies]

I don't talk to people named Ronald!

Geesh , you are sensitive! (Alice pouts too much. )

I'm sorry...did anyone hear anything? I think that was just my imagination!

I thought Deano was your fantasy, not Ronald.




now was that a total thread derailment or what! ..ok, ok.. back to the topic...whatever that was.

[annie89509]

You can click on "View Results" link, right under the "Submit Vote" button at the beginning of the thread, and view the results without voting.

Could you simplify that a little bit more.

Rick is such a helpful soul -- nicest guy on the board . I didn't vote either, love them both ... as someone said, not a good comparison for a poll ... one is a solo record, the other Journey.

Re ROR, don't understand the dissing ... it was one of their most successful ... got 5 hit songs out of it: BGTY, GCHI, IBAWWY, Suzanne, WCTNGOF. I think 1 more hit, but not sure which one.

[Vladan]

Wow this thread is 5 pages now. I would never of seen that coming from a Vs thread. Don't they usually get to 2 pages at the most, if your lucky.

And seriously!, getting into a debate with Rockindeano - you know which road that will take you to, the never ending road. You can't win! sorry, year in and year out Deano lives and breathes debates, he is ready for them, and always has an answer and counter, right or wrong, he's in for the long haul. So I say good luck with that! I don't even bother anymore, you just can't win. Just take a look at his post count, he didn't get that from H2H and for the love of Steve Augeri threads lol

EDIT# I fixed up some spelling errors.

[steveo777]

Wow this thread is 5 pages now. I would never of seen that coming from a Vs thread. Don't they usually get to 2 pages at the most, if your lucky.

And seriously!, getting into a debate with Rockindeano - you know which road that will take you to, the never ending road. You can't win! sorry, year in and year out Deano lives and breathes debates, he is ready for them, and always has an answer and counter, right or wrong, he's in for the long haul. So I say good with that! I don't even bother anymore, you just can win. Just take a look at his post count, he didn't get that from H2H and for the love of Steve Augeri threads lol

They have a name for ppl like RD. Blow hard. It's only as serious as you take it. In the end he only wins debates with himself, cus the internet is such serious business.

[xflajrnylvr]

ROR no contest

[G.I.Jim]

ROR no contest

Where's the "Lou Gramm's new cd" option?

[Gordon from Edinburgh]

[ If I could only keep one of these two albums, it would have to be ROR. I'd really like to keep both though.[/quote]


That summed it up perfectly..............

[brandonx76]

This is an irrelevant comparison...plain and simple

[Rockindeano]

Wow this thread is 5 pages now. I would never of seen that coming from a Vs thread. Don't they usually get to 2 pages at the most, if your lucky.

And seriously!, getting into a debate with Rockindeano - you know which road that will take you to, the never ending road. You can't win! sorry, year in and year out Deano lives and breathes debates, he is ready for them, and always has an answer and counter, right or wrong, he's in for the long haul. So I say good with that! I don't even bother anymore, you just can win. Just take a look at his post count, he didn't get that from H2H and for the love of Steve Augeri threads lol

They have a name for ppl like RD. Blow hard. It's only as serious as you take it. In the end he only wins debates with himself, cus the internet is such serious business.

Go to Hell.

[steveo777]

Wow this thread is 5 pages now. I would never of seen that coming from a Vs thread. Don't they usually get to 2 pages at the most, if your lucky.

And seriously!, getting into a debate with Rockindeano - you know which road that will take you to, the never ending road. You can't win! sorry, year in and year out Deano lives and breathes debates, he is ready for them, and always has an answer and counter, right or wrong, he's in for the long haul. So I say good with that! I don't even bother anymore, you just can win. Just take a look at his post count, he didn't get that from H2H and for the love of Steve Augeri threads lol

They have a name for ppl like RD. Blow hard. It's only as serious as you take it. In the end he only wins debates with himself, cus the internet is such serious business.

Go to Hell.

See ya there!

[Rockindeano]

Wow this thread is 5 pages now. I would never of seen that coming from a Vs thread. Don't they usually get to 2 pages at the most, if your lucky.

And seriously!, getting into a debate with Rockindeano - you know which road that will take you to, the never ending road. You can't win! sorry, year in and year out Deano lives and breathes debates, he is ready for them, and always has an answer and counter, right or wrong, he's in for the long haul. So I say good with that! I don't even bother anymore, you just can win. Just take a look at his post count, he didn't get that from H2H and for the love of Steve Augeri threads lol

They have a name for ppl like RD. Blow hard. It's only as serious as you take it. In the end he only wins debates with himself, cus the internet is such serious business.

Go to Hell.

See ya there!

You bring the water and I will bring the Gatorade. We'll turn into fags and gang rape Satan, and then turn on the fuckin' A/C. You just know that fucker has the ability to cool Hell down to a safe and respectable 78 degrees in the day time.

[Saint John]

The success of Bon Jovi and Def Leppard had nothing to do with any supposed shortcomings of Journey. They were just the new generation of bands coming to prominence. Simple as that.

That's not the point, needle dick. The point is that had Notrildamus not hijacked the band that they could have had similar sales. He cost the band millions with the decision to take the "rock" out of what was a rock band. But he wanted to do that, so I guess he accomplished his mission.

Gotta disagree here Dan. Perry did what was smart and brave; He knew the formula is only good so long and on so many guises. Who is going to buy the same songs with different words and titles over and over? Look at TBF, Arrival and Revelaions- same stuff over and over, and, declining sales. ROR out sold all of them combined. Also, take away the Pinoy factor for the latest effort(valid point), and you have a continuous decline from ROR>TBF>Arrival>Revelations.

Part of what SP was doing or trying to do was stay relevant. He knew the same ol same ol was drying up- He wanted to reinvent the band and stay in the forefront. Look at the remaining 80's super bands today; U2, E Street, Madonna...like them or hate them, they all stayed huge, survived Grunge, and still play arenas and stadiums today.

You make a good argument though, but IMO, it's more complicated than what you make it seem.

Everything you've said here validates my point. Hysteria and Slippery When Wet maintained that old ratio of "rockers" and "ballads" and went Diamond. ROR didn't and yielded only 1 Top 20 hit. The decision to move away from what worked was disastrous (as far as sales goes...the album was still pretty good). What Perry did was chicken shit and spineless. It was what he wanted to do and not what the band wanted to do (including firing members) or what the fans wanted to hear. The decision to go soft and fire great members was anything but "smart and brave." Get your balls back from the bullhorns, dude. Here's what Journey may have been able to do had they stayed a "rock" band. Speculation, but they certainly had the talent.

Some stats on Hysteria:

Hysteria is one of only a handful of albums (and only the third in rock history) that has charted seven singles or more on the US Hot 100: "Women" (#80), "Animal" (#19), "Hysteria" (#10), "Pour Some Sugar on Me" (#2), "Love Bites" (#1), "Armageddon It" (#3), and "Rocket" (#12). It remained on the charts for three years and has sold 18 million copies worldwide.

Slippery When Wet:

Slippery When Wet, recorded in Vancouver, Canada, (that should give you a stiffy ) is the third studio album by Bon Jovi, released on August 18, 1986. It is the band's most commercially successful album, selling over 12 million copies in the U.S. and has sold over 28 million worldwide. It was named the top selling album of 1987 by Billboard. Today it stands as one of the six best selling hard rock albums ever, and spawned two #1 singles, "You Give Love a Bad Name" and "Livin' on a Prayer", making Bon Jovi the first hard rock band to have 2 consecutive #1 hit singles. The third single "Wanted Dead or Alive" was a Top 10 hit, reaching #7 on the Billboard Hot 100. Slippery When Wet stayed at #1 for 8 weeks, the record for a hard rock album on the Billboard 200.

[WykkedSensation]

[Quote] ROR didn't and yielded only 1 Top 20 hit [Quote]

Appologies if i have this wrong, but my figures show that ROR spawned 5 singles, 4 of which were top 20 hits.

Be good to yourself #9
Suzanne #17
Girl can't help it #17
I'll be alright without you #14

The only one that didn't make top 20 was 'Why can't this night go on forever' at #60.

These figures actually are better on average than the 'Frontiers' stuff which read..

Separate ways #8
Faithfully #12
After the fall #23
Send her my love #23

[Rockindeano]

Some stats on Hysteria:

Hysteria is one of only a handful of albums (and only the third in rock history) that has charted seven singles or more on the US Hot 100: "Women" (#80), "Animal" (#19), "Hysteria" (#10), "Pour Some Sugar on Me" (#2), "Love Bites" (#1), "Armageddon It" (#3), and "Rocket" (#12). It remained on the charts for three years and has sold 18 million copies worldwide.

Ok I found one of the other two:

Springsteen probably is best known for his album Born in the U.S.A. (1984), which sold 15 million copies in the U.S. alone and became one of the best-selling albums of all time with seven singles hitting the top 10, and the massively successful world tour that followed it.

Hysteria, Born in the USA and what was the other? Anyone know?

No Deb, it isn't Mr. Big.

[RedWingFan]

Some stats on Hysteria:

Hysteria is one of only a handful of albums (and only the third in rock history) that has charted seven singles or more on the US Hot 100: "Women" (#80), "Animal" (#19), "Hysteria" (#10), "Pour Some Sugar on Me" (#2), "Love Bites" (#1), "Armageddon It" (#3), and "Rocket" (#12). It remained on the charts for three years and has sold 18 million copies worldwide.

Ok I found one of the other two:

Springsteen probably is best known for his album Born in the U.S.A. (1984), which sold 15 million copies in the U.S. alone and became one of the best-selling albums of all time with seven singles hitting the top 10, and the massively successful world tour that followed it.

Hysteria, Born in the USA and what was the other? Anyone know?

No Deb, it isn't Mr. Big.

Off the top of my head. I'd say "Waking Up The Neighbors" That had a crapload of hits also!

[Rockindeano]

Some stats on Hysteria:

Hysteria is one of only a handful of albums (and only the third in rock history) that has charted seven singles or more on the US Hot 100: "Women" (#80), "Animal" (#19), "Hysteria" (#10), "Pour Some Sugar on Me" (#2), "Love Bites" (#1), "Armageddon It" (#3), and "Rocket" (#12). It remained on the charts for three years and has sold 18 million copies worldwide.

Ok I found one of the other two:

Springsteen probably is best known for his album Born in the U.S.A. (1984), which sold 15 million copies in the U.S. alone and became one of the best-selling albums of all time with seven singles hitting the top 10, and the massively successful world tour that followed it.

Hysteria, Born in the USA and what was the other? Anyone know?

No Deb, it isn't Mr. Big.

Off the top of my head. I'd say "Waking Up The Neighbors" That had a crapload of hits also!

Naw, Reckless had more than Neighbours. Maybe Bon Jovi? Fuck, maybe it is Reckless come to think of it.

[RedWingFan]

Some stats on Hysteria:

Hysteria is one of only a handful of albums (and only the third in rock history) that has charted seven singles or more on the US Hot 100: "Women" (#80), "Animal" (#19), "Hysteria" (#10), "Pour Some Sugar on Me" (#2), "Love Bites" (#1), "Armageddon It" (#3), and "Rocket" (#12). It remained on the charts for three years and has sold 18 million copies worldwide.

Ok I found one of the other two:

Springsteen probably is best known for his album Born in the U.S.A. (1984), which sold 15 million copies in the U.S. alone and became one of the best-selling albums of all time with seven singles hitting the top 10, and the massively successful world tour that followed it.

Hysteria, Born in the USA and what was the other? Anyone know?

No Deb, it isn't Mr. Big.

Off the top of my head. I'd say "Waking Up The Neighbors" That had a crapload of hits also!

Naw, Reckless had more than Neighbours. Maybe Bon Jovi? Fuck, maybe it is Reckless come to think of it.

Hysteria could have easily had 8 if they'd released "Love and Affection"