OT: Bill O'Reilly

[Luvsaugeri]

I LOVE Bill!!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Relative to the rest of the FOX News lineup, O'Reilly almost comes off moderate.
Not sure how anyone watches tho...unless your idea of hard hitting journalism is "the great american culture quiz" and analyzing celebrity body language.
There is also the little fact that he lies with impunity.
Most notable among them, taking credit for a French boycott and citing economic figures in a non-existent rag, The Paris Business Review.
Or saying US soldiers committed the massacre at Malmedy, when it was the Nazis.
And it goes on and on...
No apology or correction is ever offered, and hell, why should there be.
O'Reilly knows his audience.
Even the way he addresses them, ("the folks"), reeks of patronizing disdain.
Say what you will about MSNBC, but at least they have standards and practices.

[G.I.Jim]

Relative to the rest of the FOX News lineup, O'Reilly almost comes off moderate.
Not sure how anyone watches tho...unless your idea of hard hitting journalism is "the great american culture quiz" and analyzing celebrity body language.
There is also the little fact that he lies with impunity.
Most notable among them, taking credit for a French boycott and citing economic figures in a non-existent rag, The Paris Business Review.
Or saying US soldiers committed the massacre at Malmedy, when it was the Nazis.
And it goes on and on...
No apology or correction is ever offered, and hell, why should there be.
O'Reilly knows his audience.
Even the way he addresses them, ("the folks"), reeks of patronizing disdain.
Say what you will about MSNBC, but at least they have standards and practices.

Who has the most viewers?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Who has the most viewers?

Who gives a fuck?
Cable news, by itself, is already a small, niche market.
The only reason the Right latches onto cable news like their lives depend on it is because, well, for them, it feels like it actually does.
I wonder just which apocalyptic doomsday horse O’Reilly will trot out of the barn tonight - "activist judges", "socialism", "gay marriage", “liberal media”, “Acorn”, etc. etc.
The stakes are made to appear higher, and the dittohead zombie hordes react accordingly.

[G.I.Jim]

Who has the most viewers?

Who gives a fuck?
Cable news, by itself, is already a small, niche market.
The only reason the Right latches onto cable news like their lives depend on it is because, well, for them, it feels like it actually does.
I wonder just which apocalyptic doomsday horse O’Reilly will trot out of the barn tonight - "activist judges", "socialism", "gay marriage", “liberal media”, “Acorn”, etc. etc.
The stakes are made to appear higher, and the dittohead zombie hordes react accordingly.

Well, maybe it's because people like to hear the truth. Obviously a LOT of people believe in what is said on the network that they keep tuning in. It's not just Cable news either. How about talk radio? Do you guys even HAVE a talk radio station? This is obviously a sore subject with you, so I won't harrass you too much.

[lights1961]

I LOVE Bill!!

me too..
I have read a few of his books as well.



Rick

[The_Noble_Cause]

Well, maybe it's because people like to hear the truth.

If that's what you truly think, I feel sorry for you.
Most educated conservatives I know think the Limbaughs and O'Reillys of the world are a joke.
If you think O'Reilly is a paragon of truth, why don't you start by debunking his two lies I listed earlier in this thread?

Obviously a LOT of people believe in what is said on the network that they keep tuning in.

Wow, you're really going to make the tired argument that "popularity = quality."
Following that logic to its natural conclusion, I take it you're a big fan of Britney Spears and Lil Wayne, right?

It's not just Cable news either. How about talk radio?

Once again, you're talking about a really narrow audience.
For anyone in the know, the Arbitron ratings system for radio is a joke.
Limbaugh's own claim of 20 million listeners is based on NOTHING but piecemeal speculation.

Do you guys even HAVE a talk radio station?

Huh?
You do realize the EIB radio network is not real, right?
The talent do not actually own the stations.

This is obviously a sore subject with you, so I won't harrass you too much.

Not at all...wanna talk about how Limbaugh got his start giving away his syndication rights to stations for free?
Bring it on.

[Ehwmatt]

So anyway, my dick is bigger than yours.

[Lula]

not a fan of billo. i do like to see what the latest thing is that got his patnies in a bunch tho. i'll turn on fox news to get a laugh now and then. i'm expecting to see our miss california become their latest talking head.... anyday now

[Tito]

not a fan of billo. i do like to see what the latest thing is that got his patnies in a bunch tho. i'll turn on fox news to get a laugh now and then. i'm expecting to see our miss california become their latest talking head.... anyday now

If the fags (Perez Hilton in particular) wouldn't have made such a fuss over this, it wouldn't have even been noticed.

[The_Noble_Cause]

If the fags (Perez Hilton in particular) wouldn't have made such a fuss over this, it wouldn't have even been noticed.

More and more semi-nude shots keep coming out.
That's against beauty pageant rules.
I really don't care what she thinks about two boys kissing, it is clear, however, that she is a sanctimonious hypocrite.
In other words, a perfect addition to the FOX News evening roster.
O'Reilly himself, a staunch defender of the sanctity of hetero marriage, has been accused of doing himself in the ass with a vibrator.
An accusation, among others, he would later settle in court.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/10 ... kris1.html

[G.I.Jim]

Well, maybe it's because people like to hear the truth.

If that's what you truly think, I feel sorry for you.
Most educated conservatives I know think the Limbaughs and O'Reillys of the world are a joke.
If you think O'Reilly is a paragon of truth, why don't you start by debunking his two lies I listed earlier in this thread?

I have neither the time, nor a reason to spend hours on the internet researching whatever the hell it is you're referring to. Does he make mistakes? Of course he does. I have heard him admit to his own mistakes SEVERAL times on air. Something I don't think I've EVER seen on CNN or MSNBC.

Obviously a LOT of people believe in what is said on the network that they keep tuning in.

Wow, you're really going to make the tired argument that "popularity = quality."

I could use the same arguement against Obama...

Following that logic to its natural conclusion, I take it you're a big fan of Britney Spears and Lil Wayne, right?

Uhm....yeah, whatever. I won't even acknowledge such a retarded statement.

It's not just Cable news either. How about talk radio?

Once again, you're talking about a really narrow audience.
For anyone in the know, the Arbitron ratings system for radio is a joke.

Okay, let me rephrase the question...are there any liberal talk shows that are popular on a massive scale? I don't give a shit how you scale it...Rush is one popular radio personality. So are several others out there.Limbaugh's own claim of 20 million listeners is based on NOTHING but piecemeal speculation.

Do you guys even HAVE a talk radio station?

Huh?
You do realize the EIB radio network is not real, right?
The talent do not actually own the stations.

Who gives a damn who owns the stations? Did I say "Rush owns a freaking radio station?". Don't think so.

This is obviously a sore subject with you, so I won't harrass you too much.

Not at all...wanna talk about how Limbaugh got his start giving away his syndication rights to stations for free?
Bring it on.

[Eric]

Complete twat.

Who you calling a twat Andrew?

O'Reilly..... And Fox "News" in general.

Bill O'Reilly is very knowledgeable. His book - "Who's Looking out for you" is a great read for everyone, especially those just starting out in the world. He is traditional and independent......and is Pro-America.

[Eric]

Relative to the rest of the FOX News lineup, O'Reilly almost comes off moderate.
Not sure how anyone watches tho...unless your idea of hard hitting journalism is "the great american culture quiz" and analyzing celebrity body language.
There is also the little fact that he lies with impunity.
Most notable among them, taking credit for a French boycott and citing economic figures in a non-existent rag, The Paris Business Review.
Or saying US soldiers committed the massacre at Malmedy, when it was the Nazis.
And it goes on and on...
No apology or correction is ever offered, and hell, why should there be.
O'Reilly knows his audience.
Even the way he addresses them, ("the folks"), reeks of patronizing disdain.
Say what you will about MSNBC, but at least they have standards and practices.

MSNBC is a joke. There only standard is to be elite snobs who look down at traditional Americans.

O'Reilly did correct himself about the Malmedy thing. Thats so ridiculous to even bring up. We disagree but you are WAY better than that. I'm sure that over the years he has made many blunders like that, as would anyone who speaks so much every day. That was a mistake...a slip of the tongue...not a lie.

There is such a thing as the "Paris Business Review". O'Reilly did ask for a boycott and there was a decrease......I'm sure he played a role and I'm sure some of it was just bloviating.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I have neither the time, nor a reason to spend hours on the internet researching whatever the hell it is you're referring to.

Total cop out.

Does he make mistakes? Of course he does. I have heard him admit to his own mistakes SEVERAL times on air.

I've never seen it.
Like Limbaugh, Hannity etc, his stock in trade is bullshit.
Here's a rule of thumb, if someone has to tell you they're "looking out for you", more than likely they aren't.

Something I don't think I've EVER seen on CNN or MSNBC.

Then you're simply not watching.
Like a real news channel, when mistakes are made, corrections are offered.
I’ve even emailed their political director, gotten a personal email back, and watched the correction live on TV an hour later.
The only on-air reporter with a code of ethics on Fox is Shep Smith.

I could use the same argument against Obama...

And you’d be right.
The popularity of the 2008 frontrunners in the race, on either side, were not indicative of their quality.

Following that logic to its natural conclusion, I take it you're a big fan of Britney Spears and Lil Wayne, right?

Uhm....yeah, whatever. I won't even acknowledge such a retarded statement.

Like it or not, that’s the argument you’re making.
Similarly, Journey may be riding high on the charts now, but it wasn’t too long ago that this place was teeming with Perry-fans equating the sales of Red 13 with the band’s talent.
Same garbage argument.

Okay, let me rephrase the question...are there any liberal talk shows that are popular on a massive scale?

Going by the Talkers heavy hundred list, there are a few pockets of success.
Randi Rhodes actually just got signed by the same syndicator as Beck and Hannity.
However, it's nothing compared to the amount of Rush clones that infiltrate the airwaves.
Depending on the market, a lefty put head-to-head (on a station with an equal signal) with Sean or Rush will win easily.
And, as Air America learned the hard way after facing an advertising blackout, it’s a lot easier for right wing demagogues to criticize the government, than the corporations who buy up advertising.

I don't give a shit how you scale it...Rush is one popular radio personality. So are several others out there.

When you give out the syndication rights for free, anyone can become popular.
What I want to know is, if that was true for Rush, what about Hannity, Beck, etc.?

Who gives a damn who owns the stations? Did I say "Rush owns a freaking radio station?". Don't think so.

No, you asked “do you guys even have a talk radio station”?
If you are asking if stations exist with a liberal talk format, then yes.
Do they exist in the same abundance as right wing stations?
No, not even close.

[Eric]

Who has the most viewers?

Who gives a fuck?
Cable news, by itself, is already a small, niche market.
The only reason the Right latches onto cable news like their lives depend on it is because, well, for them, it feels like it actually does.
I wonder just which apocalyptic doomsday horse O’Reilly will trot out of the barn tonight - "activist judges", "socialism", "gay marriage", “liberal media”, “Acorn”, etc. etc.
The stakes are made to appear higher, and the dittohead zombie hordes react accordingly.

More people watch Fox news because CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CBS and ABC all feature ONE point of view...and its not the point of view of traditional Americans.

[Eric]

Who has the most viewers?

Who gives a fuck?
Cable news, by itself, is already a small, niche market.
The only reason the Right latches onto cable news like their lives depend on it is because, well, for them, it feels like it actually does.
I wonder just which apocalyptic doomsday horse O’Reilly will trot out of the barn tonight - "activist judges", "socialism", "gay marriage", “liberal media”, “Acorn”, etc. etc.
The stakes are made to appear higher, and the dittohead zombie hordes react accordingly.

Or how about when he makes a case of child abuse public that no other media will bother to alert us to?

[Eric]

Relative to the rest of the FOX News lineup, O'Reilly almost comes off moderate.
Not sure how anyone watches tho...unless your idea of hard hitting journalism

His show is not the HARD NEWS...lets keep that in mind.

[The_Noble_Cause]

MSNBC is a joke. There only standard is to be elite snobs who look down at traditional Americans.

What is "traditional" about sticking a dildo up your ass while jerking off to a co-worker on the phone, as O'Reilly was sued for?

O'Reilly did correct himself about the Malmedy thing. Thats so ridiculous to even bring up. We disagree but you are WAY better than that.

No he didn't.
As Olbermann pointed out, Fox News even scrubbed the transcript of the mistake which O'Reilly made on two separate occassions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0aAVifJqDE

I'm sure that over the years he has made many blunders like that, as would anyone who speaks so much every day. That was a mistake...a slip of the tongue...not a lie.

When something is stated as fact that is bullshit, that is a lie.
Just this past month, while carping on Obama's handshake with Chavez, O'Reilly matter-of-factly stated that Nixon never met with Mao..
Wrong again.
And no correction was ever offered.

http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/stor ... med_nixon/

There is such a thing as the "Paris Business Review". O'Reilly did ask for a boycott and there was a decrease......I'm sure he played a role and I'm sure some of it was just bloviating.

You are as bad a liar as O'Reilly himself.
There is no such thing as the Paris Business Review.
O'Reilly made it up out of thin air.

[The_Noble_Cause]

More people watch Fox news because CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CBS and ABC all feature ONE point of view...and its not the point of view of traditional Americans.

Sorry.
Network TV newscasts (ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS) are straight newscasts ala Shep Smith or to a lesser extent, Bret Hume.
Opinions rarely even enter the equation.
Most of it is just rewritten copy from Reuters or the AP.

As for CNN...to say Lou Dobbs presents the same point of view as Anderson Cooper is laughable.

[youkeepmewaiting]

I'd love to know what truth the man speaks. He is a complete black and white person.. and whilst of the subject of "black and white", a racist.

He is the reason why alot of people, wrongly, see Americans as idiots.

[Eric]

MSNBC is a joke. There only standard is to be elite snobs who look down at traditional Americans.

What is "traditional" about sticking a dildo up your ass while jerking off to a co-worker on the phone, as O'Reilly was sued for?

O'Reilly did correct himself about the Malmedy thing. Thats so ridiculous to even bring up. We disagree but you are WAY better than that.

No he didn't.
As Olbermann pointed out, Fox News even scrubbed the transcript of the mistake which O'Reilly made on two separate occassions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0aAVifJqDE

I'm sure that over the years he has made many blunders like that, as would anyone who speaks so much every day. That was a mistake...a slip of the tongue...not a lie.

When something is stated as fact that is bullshit, that is a lie.
Just this past month, while carping on Obama's handshake with Chavez, O'Reilly matter-of-factly stated that Nixon never met with Mao..
Wrong again.
And no correction was ever offered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6GD8eCOUE8

There is such a thing as the "Paris Business Review". O'Reilly did ask for a boycott and there was a decrease......I'm sure he played a role and I'm sure some of it was just bloviating.

You are as bad a liar as O'Reilly himself.
There is no such thing as the Paris Business Review.
O'Reilly made it up out of thin air.

You have no idea what happened with that lawsuit. He said he made mistakes, was blackmailed, and settled. Thats all I know..and its all you know. You are looking for anything to discredit him.

I challenge you to read "Who's looking out for you".

Olbermann can't hold Billy-O's jockstrap. He needs to resort to nitpicking about him just to have a job.

[The_Noble_Cause]

He is traditional and independent......and is Pro-America.

Lol.
What does any of that mean?

[youkeepmewaiting]

He is traditional and independent......and is Pro-America.

Lol.
What does any of that mean?

Funny aswell that I dont think someone who is traditional... can also be independant...surely?

And if by "Pro-America" you mean, "Blinded by propaganda" then definitly.

[Eric]

More people watch Fox news because CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CBS and ABC all feature ONE point of view...and its not the point of view of traditional Americans.

Sorry.
Network TV newscasts (ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS) are straight newscasts ala Shep Smith or to a lesser extent, Bret Hume.
Opinions rarely even enter the equation.
Most of it is just rewritten copy from Reuters or the AP.

As for CNN...to say Lou Dobbs presents the same point of view as Anderson Cooper is laughable.

The AP now puts opinion in their releases, which is despicable. For example, when Tony Snow passed, their press release ridiculed him. So disgusting.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer ... -classless

NBC...Come on! Their promos for the news are even biased...showing a picture of Bush behind bars next to Obama with a caption of "trying to clean up torture". Gimme a break.

With regards to Dobbs, I was talking strictly about the hard news on each of those channels. Like, looking at Hannity as an example of Fox's NEWS NEWS would be like looking at Dateline as part of NBC NEWS NEWS. That is not what I'm talking about.

[Eric]

He is traditional and independent......and is Pro-America.

Lol.
What does any of that mean?

Funny aswell that I dont think someone who is traditional... can also be independant...surely?

And if by "Pro-America" you mean, "Blinded by propaganda" then definitly.

He's independent politically...meaning he sides with the left sometimes (ex. Global Warming) and the right others (ex. waterboarding)

Traditional is more of a cultural term.

No...he gives America the benefit of the doubt. Sees the good in it. I recommend some of you start doing the same thing.

[The_Noble_Cause]

You have no idea what happened with that lawsuit. He said he made mistakes, was blackmailed, and settled. Thats all I know..and its all you know. You are looking for anything to discredit him.

To anyone with a GED, he already is discredited.
His now infamous YouTube-archived blowup on the set of "Current Affair" shows him how he really is.
I don't believe he was blackmailed.
His latent chauvinism comes out every time he has a hot girl on the set.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVXTw-MABU8

I challenge you to read "Who's looking out for you".

Right.
And after that I will be sure to pick up Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity's latest screed.
Blow-dried talking heads are the last place I look for political enrichment.

Olbermann can't hold Billy-O's jockstrap. He needs to resort to nitpicking about him just to have a job.

Olbermann's fixation with right wing liars may border on the obsesssive, but his facts are airtight.
Care to debunk them?

[Eric]

You have no idea what happened with that lawsuit. He said he made mistakes, was blackmailed, and settled. Thats all I know..and its all you know. You are looking for anything to discredit him.

To anyone with a GED, he already is discredited.
His now infamous YouTube-archived blowup on the set of "Current Affair" shows him how he really is.
I don't believe he was blackmailed.
His latent chauvinism comes out every time he has a hot girl on the set.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVXTw-MABU8

I challenge you to read "Who's looking out for you".

Right.
And after that I will be sure to pick up Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity's latest screed.
Blow-dried talking heads are the last place I look for political enrichment.

Olbermann can't hold Billy-O's jockstrap. He needs to resort to nitpicking about him just to have a job.

Olbermann's fixation with right wing liars may border on the obsesssive, but his facts are airtight.
Care to debunk them?

Tell you what...I'll pay for the book..and donate $50 to your favorite charity if you review it and post your review on here.

Olbermann doesn't say anything of substance to be debunked...and nobody watches him anyway so we should probably let him and his ratings dry up and go away.

[Eric]

and I'm no fan of Hannity or Coulter and it is pretty ridiculous you'd lump them together.

[The_Noble_Cause]

The AP now puts opinion in their releases, which is despicable. For example, when Tony Snow passed, their press release ridiculed him. So disgusting.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer ... -classless

AP employs thousands of reporters in bureas around the world.
More often than not, the reporting is straight down the line and editorializing free.

NBC...Come on! Their promos for the news are even biased...showing a picture of Bush behind bars next to Obama with a caption of "trying to clean up torture". Gimme a break.

For NBC News with Brian Williams?
I strongly doubt it.
More than likely, you are referring to one of MSNBC's leftwing shows, and there's nothing wrong with that.