Just not Interested

[Jana]

Yeah I understand where your coming from, I have seen REO and Styx together at least 4 times, and it seems like every other year they tour together. In my opinion it seems like it would be in Journey's best interest to take a year off from touring, make people miss your music and concerts. If your out there all the time, people arent going to miss you and want to see you again.

Yeah, except those guys aren't getting any younger are they? So I guess they're making hay while the sun shines. Never can tell when one of the guys might need major surgery like a hip replacement for instance.

Jesus....hope Neal does not need anything done....then they could move on without him

No Neal would spell the end. First in last out. Neal will be the one who turns off the lights after the last song is played.

This is so true. Journey isn't going to be Menudo with Myles Schon coming in and carrying the torch. I'm sure he wants to be famous in his own right, and not be seen as riding his Dad's coat tails. Steve Lukather's son Trevor is the same way.
When Neal calls it a day, I would think that Journey will be officially defunct.

Yeah Neal is the man, but I still think he is kidding himself...has been for awhile...it's not the same, never will be.

He's never said it was the same. He wanted the chance to go forward with the band and they are doing good. Perry for the last twelve years hasn't done much of anything until now. Hopefully, he will put the CD out and not backtrack. Perry didn't play with this band since '87 until TBF. He wouldn't have played again. Neal had to move forward. They are doing great for a band of this age with so many changes. Nobody is trying to pretend it's '83, especially Neal.

[journey361]

I have to wonder just how big a tour and or buzz would be with the anouncement that SP has joined Journey and they will hit the road with a Tour backing a new record. How big do you think it would be today.

[Aaron]

I'm with you, I'm staying home too. I don't mind Arnel but I will not pay to hear stuff detuned, no way.

[portland]

Yeah I understand where your coming from, I have seen REO and Styx together at least 4 times, and it seems like every other year they tour together. In my opinion it seems like it would be in Journey's best interest to take a year off from touring, make people miss your music and concerts. If your out there all the time, people arent going to miss you and want to see you again.

Yeah, except those guys aren't getting any younger are they? So I guess they're making hay while the sun shines. Never can tell when one of the guys might need major surgery like a hip replacement for instance.

Jesus....hope Neal does not need anything done....then they could move on without him

No Neal would spell the end. First in last out. Neal will be the one who turns off the lights after the last song is played.

This is so true. Journey isn't going to be Menudo with Myles Schon coming in and carrying the torch. I'm sure he wants to be famous in his own right, and not be seen as riding his Dad's coat tails. Steve Lukather's son Trevor is the same way.
When Neal calls it a day, I would think that Journey will be officially defunct.

Yeah Neal is the man, but I still think he is kidding himself...has been for awhile...it's not the same, never will be.

He's never said it was the same. He wanted the chance to go forward with the band and they are doing good. Perry for the last twelve years hasn't done much of anything until now. Hopefully, he will put the CD out and not backtrack. Perry didn't play with this band since '87 until TBF. He wouldn't have played again. Neal had to move forward. They are doing great for a band of this age with so many changes. Nobody is trying to pretend it's '83, especially Neal.

Don't get me wrong I love Neal...I really do, but you cannot replace Perry....no matter how many times you try, it's just not the same....and I would rather see SP with Journey tuned down than anyone else.......for me when they did the re-records all bets were off and it was wrong..even if Walmart wanted it...I don't care...those songs are Journey songs that should not have been messed with..but I am a die-hard fan......so we will have to agree to disagree.

[Jana]

Yeah I understand where your coming from, I have seen REO and Styx together at least 4 times, and it seems like every other year they tour together. In my opinion it seems like it would be in Journey's best interest to take a year off from touring, make people miss your music and concerts. If your out there all the time, people arent going to miss you and want to see you again.

Yeah, except those guys aren't getting any younger are they? So I guess they're making hay while the sun shines. Never can tell when one of the guys might need major surgery like a hip replacement for instance.

Jesus....hope Neal does not need anything done....then they could move on without him

No Neal would spell the end. First in last out. Neal will be the one who turns off the lights after the last song is played.

This is so true. Journey isn't going to be Menudo with Myles Schon coming in and carrying the torch. I'm sure he wants to be famous in his own right, and not be seen as riding his Dad's coat tails. Steve Lukather's son Trevor is the same way.
When Neal calls it a day, I would think that Journey will be officially defunct.

Yeah Neal is the man, but I still think he is kidding himself...has been for awhile...it's not the same, never will be.

He's never said it was the same. He wanted the chance to go forward with the band and they are doing good. Perry for the last twelve years hasn't done much of anything until now. Hopefully, he will put the CD out and not backtrack. Perry didn't play with this band since '87 until TBF. He wouldn't have played again. Neal had to move forward. They are doing great for a band of this age with so many changes. Nobody is trying to pretend it's '83, especially Neal.

Don't get me wrong I love Neal...I really do, but you cannot replace Perry....no matter how many times you try, it's just not the same....and I would rather see SP with Journey tuned down than anyone else.......for me when they did the re-records all bets were off and it was wrong..even if Walmart wanted it...I don't care...those songs are Journey songs that should not have been messed with..but I am a die-hard fan......so we will have to agree to disagree.

No, I get that. What I'm saying is Perry really had no interest in Journey. He left it after ROR and did not keep in contact with them. Worked on his solo career and did TBF ten years later many think b/c Sony pushed him and then he backed out of touring. If you feel they shouldn't have continued i respect that, but in my opinion, opinion only, tuning down or not, Perry was never ever coming back to Journey after TBF so there would have been no Journey. I have no issue with anyone not liking any of the incarnations after Perry. But for those holding out hope that Perry would ever have been with the band after TBF I disagree. One time thing. Example, he's been silent for 13 years.

[steveo777]

Yeah I understand where your coming from, I have seen REO and Styx together at least 4 times, and it seems like every other year they tour together. In my opinion it seems like it would be in Journey's best interest to take a year off from touring, make people miss your music and concerts. If your out there all the time, people arent going to miss you and want to see you again.

Yeah, except those guys aren't getting any younger are they? So I guess they're making hay while the sun shines. Never can tell when one of the guys might need major surgery like a hip replacement for instance.

Jesus....hope Neal does not need anything done....then they could move on without him

No Neal would spell the end. First in last out. Neal will be the one who turns off the lights after the last song is played.

This is so true. Journey isn't going to be Menudo with Myles Schon coming in and carrying the torch. I'm sure he wants to be famous in his own right, and not be seen as riding his Dad's coat tails. Steve Lukather's son Trevor is the same way.
When Neal calls it a day, I would think that Journey will be officially defunct.

Yeah Neal is the man, but I still think he is kidding himself...has been for awhile...it's not the same, never will be.

He's never said it was the same. He wanted the chance to go forward with the band and they are doing good. Perry for the last twelve years hasn't done much of anything until now. Hopefully, he will put the CD out and not backtrack. Perry didn't play with this band since '87 until TBF. He wouldn't have played again. Neal had to move forward. They are doing great for a band of this age with so many changes. Nobody is trying to pretend it's '83, especially Neal.

Don't get me wrong I love Neal...I really do, but you cannot replace Perry....no matter how many times you try, it's just not the same....and I would rather see SP with Journey tuned down than anyone else.......for me when they did the re-records all bets were off and it was wrong..even if Walmart wanted it...I don't care...those songs are Journey songs that should not have been messed with..but I am a die-hard fan......so we will have to agree to disagree.

A die-hard Steve Perry fan, apparently. A true Journey fan supports the band from beginning to end, inspite of the lead singer changes. It's not the same but Steve Perry was the voice of Journey during his era. Steve Perry was not Journey, as it's all of the individuals that make up the band. I supported the band during the Steve Augeri era and during JSS's brief tenure. It's now Arnel Pineda's era. It's still Journey to me. If it was just Arnel reviving Journey with a whole different lineup then I would not consider it Journey or be anywhere near as supportive. As long as Neal, Ross and Jon are still with the band, it's still Journey. I realize there are people out there who think Journey should have just folded up shop when SP departed, but that wasn't the will of the band members. I get a chuckle out of people who call Arnel a Perry clone, then others who diss him for not sounding Perry enough, as on some of the new songs. Goes to show you just can't please everyone.

[brywool]

[portland]

Yeah I understand where your coming from, I have seen REO and Styx together at least 4 times, and it seems like every other year they tour together. In my opinion it seems like it would be in Journey's best interest to take a year off from touring, make people miss your music and concerts. If your out there all the time, people arent going to miss you and want to see you again.

Yeah, except those guys aren't getting any younger are they? So I guess they're making hay while the sun shines. Never can tell when one of the guys might need major surgery like a hip replacement for instance.

Jesus....hope Neal does not need anything done....then they could move on without him

No Neal would spell the end. First in last out. Neal will be the one who turns off the lights after the last song is played.

This is so true. Journey isn't going to be Menudo with Myles Schon coming in and carrying the torch. I'm sure he wants to be famous in his own right, and not be seen as riding his Dad's coat tails. Steve Lukather's son Trevor is the same way.
When Neal calls it a day, I would think that Journey will be officially defunct.

Yeah Neal is the man, but I still think he is kidding himself...has been for awhile...it's not the same, never will be.

He's never said it was the same. He wanted the chance to go forward with the band and they are doing good. Perry for the last twelve years hasn't done much of anything until now. Hopefully, he will put the CD out and not backtrack. Perry didn't play with this band since '87 until TBF. He wouldn't have played again. Neal had to move forward. They are doing great for a band of this age with so many changes. Nobody is trying to pretend it's '83, especially Neal.

Don't get me wrong I love Neal...I really do, but you cannot replace Perry....no matter how many times you try, it's just not the same....and I would rather see SP with Journey tuned down than anyone else.......for me when they did the re-records all bets were off and it was wrong..even if Walmart wanted it...I don't care...those songs are Journey songs that should not have been messed with..but I am a die-hard fan......so we will have to agree to disagree.

A die-hard Steve Perry fan, apparently. A true Journey fan supports the band from beginning to end, inspite of the lead singer changes. It's not the same but Steve Perry was the voice of Journey during his era. Steve Perry was not Journey, as it's all of the individuals that make up the band. I supported the band during the Steve Augeri era and during JSS's brief tenure. It's now Arnel Pineda's era. It's still Journey to me. If it was just Arnel reviving Journey with a whole different lineup then I would not consider it Journey or be anywhere near as supportive. As long as Neal, Ross and Jon are still with the band, it's still Journey. I realize there are people out there who think Journey should have just folded up shop when SP departed, but that wasn't the will of the band members. I get a chuckle out of people who call Arnel a Perry clone, then others who diss him for not sounding Perry enough, as on some of the new songs. Goes to show you just can't please everyone.

Hey you have your opinion and I have mine, but I would have respected the latest version more if there were not the re-records....but hey that is just little ole me.

[hoagiepete]

I may or may not make a show this tour...but for whatever reason...it will not be because they are tuning it down a notch.

[Don]

True Journey fan... What a bunch of crock. Half of the purported true Journey fans don't even know who Ansley Dunbar is or the track listing of Captured or that there was even a soundtrack album done by the band. That label has definitely been misused as of late. Just say you are a Journey fan, that would be a more honest description.

[portland]

True Journey fan... What a bunch of crock. Half of the purported true Journey fans don't even know who Ansley Dunbar is or the track listing of Captured or that there was even a soundtrack album done by the band. That label has definitely been misused as of late.

Well I do know...and I still stand behind what I have said...but hey there are new fans I guess?!

[Don]

True Journey fan... What a bunch of crock. Half of the purported true Journey fans don't even know who Ansley Dunbar is or the track listing of Captured or that there was even a soundtrack album done by the band. That label has definitely been misused as of late.

Well I do know...and I still stand behind what I have said...but hey there are new fans I guess?!

Diehard fan is how you labeled yourself I believe. But who needs labels, just be a fan of the era you support, it won't make you less of a fan. You don't have to like all the line ups. It won't make any of us less of a fan of the music, regardless of how feel we about the actual members of the band.

[portland]

True Journey fan... What a bunch of crock. Half of the purported true Journey fans don't even know who Ansley Dunbar is or the track listing of Captured or that there was even a soundtrack album done by the band. That label has definitely been misused as of late.

Well I do know...and I still stand behind what I have said...but hey there are new fans I guess?!

Diehard fan is how you labeled yourself I believe. But who needs labels, just be a fan of the era you support, it won't make you less of a fan. You don't have to like all the line ups. It won't make any of us less of a fan of the music, regardless of how feel we about the actual members of the band.

I agree, it's what I consider to be the best and if someone does not agree then that's okay with me, just don't call me a loon or spoon...it's what I feel is the Legacy and no one can change my mind on that one. I like JSS but I did not think that he took the place of SP.

[Jubilee]

True Journey fan... What a bunch of crock. Half of the purported true Journey fans don't even know who Ansley Dunbar is or the track listing of Captured or that there was even a soundtrack album done by the band. That label has definitely been misused as of late. Just say you are a Journey fan, that would be a more honest description.

Okay, G. Aren't we just splitting hairs here? Do you really have to have the entire Journey history AND songbook committed to memory to be a "True Fan"? Just askin'...

[Jubilee]

True Journey fan... What a bunch of crock. Half of the purported true Journey fans don't even know who Ansley Dunbar is or the track listing of Captured or that there was even a soundtrack album done by the band. That label has definitely been misused as of late. Just say you are a Journey fan, that would be a more honest description.

Okay, G. Aren't we just splitting hairs here? Do you really have to have the entire Journey history AND songbook committed to memory to be a "True Fan"? :? Just askin'...

Yes.....and there is a quiz.

I was afraid there would be.

[portland]

True Journey fan... What a bunch of crock. Half of the purported true Journey fans don't even know who Ansley Dunbar is or the track listing of Captured or that there was even a soundtrack album done by the band. That label has definitely been misused as of late. Just say you are a Journey fan, that would be a more honest description.

Okay, G. Aren't we just splitting hairs here? Do you really have to have the entire Journey history AND songbook committed to memory to be a "True Fan"? Just askin'...

I have listen to most of it and as a fan for me it is SP era.....if someone disagrees than fine with me, but you need to back it up....why do you think the others are better?

[Jana]

True Journey fan... What a bunch of crock. Half of the purported true Journey fans don't even know who Ansley Dunbar is or the track listing of Captured or that there was even a soundtrack album done by the band. That label has definitely been misused as of late.

Well I do know...and I still stand behind what I have said...but hey there are new fans I guess?!

Diehard fan is how you labeled yourself I believe. But who needs labels, just be a fan of the era you support, it won't make you less of a fan. You don't have to like all the line ups. It won't make any of us less of a fan of the music, regardless of how feel we about the actual members of the band.

I agree, it's what I consider to be the best and if someone does not agree then that's okay with me, just don't call me a loon or spoon...it's what I feel is the Legacy and no one can change my mind on that one. I like JSS but I did not think that he took the place of SP.

Not one person on this forum has ever said said anyone took the place of Perry or the legacy. Not one person I've ever read on here. So you're no different from anyone else. Perry was the gold standard who delivered those songs.

Where people differ on here is their support of Journey after Perry. Some have continued to follow Journey through all its incarnations. Some only SA. Some only JSS. Some only AP. Some a combination of those singers. And many have no interest after Perry. Some have issues with Journey b/c of decisions a couple of years back. That's where there is a difference of opinions on here.

[portland]

True Journey fan... What a bunch of crock. Half of the purported true Journey fans don't even know who Ansley Dunbar is or the track listing of Captured or that there was even a soundtrack album done by the band. That label has definitely been misused as of late.

Well I do know...and I still stand behind what I have said...but hey there are new fans I guess?!

Diehard fan is how you labeled yourself I believe. But who needs labels, just be a fan of the era you support, it won't make you less of a fan. You don't have to like all the line ups. It won't make any of us less of a fan of the music, regardless of how feel we about the actual members of the band.

I agree, it's what I consider to be the best and if someone does not agree then that's okay with me, just don't call me a loon or spoon...it's what I feel is the Legacy and no one can change my mind on that one. I like JSS but I did not think that he took the place of SP.

Not one person on this forum has ever said said anyone took the place of Perry or the legacy. Not one person I've ever read on here. So you're no different from anyone else. Perry was the gold standard who delivered those songs.

Where people differ on here is their support of Journey after Perry. Some have continued to follow Journey through all its incarnations. Some only SA. Some only JSS. Some only AP. Some a combination of those singers. And many have no interest after Perry. That's where there is a difference of opinions on here.

That's fine with me.....a differnce of opinion is good for the soul......and I think you know for me it's Perry and no one else....I love Neal and his talents..but it was the best with Perry and AP for me is a tribute band. If they could have got past the bullshit they were unforgettable..and that is a shame!

[Don]

True Journey fan... What a bunch of crock. Half of the purported true Journey fans don't even know who Ansley Dunbar is or the track listing of Captured or that there was even a soundtrack album done by the band. That label has definitely been misused as of late.

Well I do know...and I still stand behind what I have said...but hey there are new fans I guess?!

Diehard fan is how you labeled yourself I believe. But who needs labels, just be a fan of the era you support, it won't make you less of a fan. You don't have to like all the line ups. It won't make any of us less of a fan of the music, regardless of how feel we about the actual members of the band.

I agree, it's what I consider to be the best and if someone does not agree then that's okay with me, just don't call me a loon or spoon...it's what I feel is the Legacy and no one can change my mind on that one. I like JSS but I did not think that he took the place of SP.

Not one person on this forum has ever said said anyone took the place of Perry or the legacy. Not one person I've ever read on here. So you're no different from anyone else. Perry was the gold standard who delivered those songs.

Where people differ on here is their support of Journey after Perry. Some have continued to follow Journey through all its incarnations. Some only SA. Some only JSS. Some only AP. Some a combination of those singers. And many have no interest after Perry. That's where there is a difference of opinions on here.

And that is what makes this site different than the rest. Everybody gets a chance to smack the Pinada or be smacked themselves. Imagine if we all liked the same flavor of the day? Yuck! Even I as a Perry fan have never been on a SP Fan site. The monotony of the same topics over and and over again with no disention allowed and idol worshipping would make me sick.

[portland]

True Journey fan... What a bunch of crock. Half of the purported true Journey fans don't even know who Ansley Dunbar is or the track listing of Captured or that there was even a soundtrack album done by the band. That label has definitely been misused as of late.

Well I do know...and I still stand behind what I have said...but hey there are new fans I guess?!

Diehard fan is how you labeled yourself I believe. But who needs labels, just be a fan of the era you support, it won't make you less of a fan. You don't have to like all the line ups. It won't make any of us less of a fan of the music, regardless of how feel we about the actual members of the band.

I agree, it's what I consider to be the best and if someone does not agree then that's okay with me, just don't call me a loon or spoon...it's what I feel is the Legacy and no one can change my mind on that one. I like JSS but I did not think that he took the place of SP.

Not one person on this forum has ever said said anyone took the place of Perry or the legacy. Not one person I've ever read on here. So you're no different from anyone else. Perry was the gold standard who delivered those songs.

Where people differ on here is their support of Journey after Perry. Some have continued to follow Journey through all its incarnations. Some only SA. Some only JSS. Some only AP. Some a combination of those singers. And many have no interest after Perry. That's where there is a difference of opinions on here.

And that is what makes this site different than the rest. Everybody gets a chance to smack the Pinada or be smacked themselves. Imagine if we all liked the same flavor of the day? Yuck! Even I as a Perry fan have never been on a SP Fan site. The monotony of the same topics over and and over again with no disention allowed and idol worshipping would make me sick.

and once again that is why I am here......no bullshit

[Jana]

True Journey fan... What a bunch of crock. Half of the purported true Journey fans don't even know who Ansley Dunbar is or the track listing of Captured or that there was even a soundtrack album done by the band. That label has definitely been misused as of late.

Well I do know...and I still stand behind what I have said...but hey there are new fans I guess?!

Diehard fan is how you labeled yourself I believe. But who needs labels, just be a fan of the era you support, it won't make you less of a fan. You don't have to like all the line ups. It won't make any of us less of a fan of the music, regardless of how feel we about the actual members of the band.

I agree, it's what I consider to be the best and if someone does not agree then that's okay with me, just don't call me a loon or spoon...it's what I feel is the Legacy and no one can change my mind on that one. I like JSS but I did not think that he took the place of SP.

Not one person on this forum has ever said said anyone took the place of Perry or the legacy. Not one person I've ever read on here. So you're no different from anyone else. Perry was the gold standard who delivered those songs.

Where people differ on here is their support of Journey after Perry. Some have continued to follow Journey through all its incarnations. Some only SA. Some only JSS. Some only AP. Some a combination of those singers. And many have no interest after Perry. That's where there is a difference of opinions on here.

And that is what makes this site different than the rest. Everybody gets a chance to smack the pinada or be smacked themselves. Imagine if we all liked the same flavor of the day? Yuck! Even I as a Perry fan have never been on a SP Fan site. The monotony of the same topics over and and over again with no disention allowed and idol worshipping would make me sick.

I always read too fast. I thought you wrote smack the Pineda.

[Don]

As soon as I typed it, i realized it might lead to allegations of Pineda abuse but I couldn't think of a proper synonym.

[steveo777]

Smack the Pineda? LOL

Now I have visions of these little Mexican kids swinging at an effigy of Arnel in a paper mache globe full of candy while blindfolded.

[yak]

That's fine with me.....a differnce of opinion is good for the soul......and I think you know for me it's Perry and no one else....I love Neal and his talents..but it was the best with Perry and AP for me is a tribute band. If they could have got past the bullshit they were unforgettable..and that is a shame!

That's fine, but what was Journey supposed to do, because Perry wanted nothing to do with the band? Go off in a corner and die? Then there would be nothing. Or maybe that was what some actually wanted to happen?

The truth is Journey moved on, and as a result, maybe new fans heard the songs that nobody would have been privy to, if Journey had laid down and played possum. Journey is still relevant, and Perry still gets a paycheck. A "win-win," no?

[Jubilee]

That's fine with me.....a differnce of opinion is good for the soul......and I think you know for me it's Perry and no one else....I love Neal and his talents..but it was the best with Perry and AP for me is a tribute band. If they could have got past the bullshit they were unforgettable..and that is a shame!

That's fine, but what was Journey supposed to do, because Perry wanted nothing to do with the band? Go off in a corner and die? Then there would be nothing. Or maybe that was what some actually wanted to happen?

The truth is Journey moved on, and as a result, maybe new fans heard the songs that nobody would have been privy to, if Journey had laid down and played possum. Journey is still relevant, and Perry still gets a paycheck. A "win-win," no?

Hmm...

[journey361]

Maybe Journey can record some songs from Perry's Street Talk and FTLOSM CD's on their next project. Wal-Mart would OK this im sure. To each his own, right Neal and Jon. LOL:

[Jubilee]

Maybe Journey can record some songs from Perry's Street Talk and FTLOSM CD's on their next project. Wal-Mart would OK this im sure. To each his own, right Neal and Jon. LOL:

...or...Perry could re-record the so-called "Dirty Dozen", maybe Wal*Mart will go for that.

[journey361]

Perry can't sing anymore, he's toast, washed up, retired, so that's not going to happen. It's up to AP and Journey it looks like.

[Jana]

That's fine with me.....a differnce of opinion is good for the soul......and I think you know for me it's Perry and no one else....I love Neal and his talents..but it was the best with Perry and AP for me is a tribute band. If they could have got past the bullshit they were unforgettable..and that is a shame!

That's fine, but what was Journey supposed to do, because Perry wanted nothing to do with the band? Go off in a corner and die? Then there would be nothing. Or maybe that was what some actually wanted to happen?

The truth is Journey moved on, and as a result, maybe new fans heard the songs that nobody would have been privy to, if Journey had laid down and played possum. Journey is still relevant, and Perry still gets a paycheck. A "win-win," no?

Hmm...

Well, considering I love Arrival with SA and they had several songs form Revelation get airplay last year and are still getting airplay and sold seven hundred and something thousand CDs and they had a successful tour last year and the spring tour this year, yes, they are relevant still. Like they were in the '80s? Of course not. It's an older band, but they're doing pretty good I'd say.

[Jubilee]

Perry can't sing anymore, he's toast, washed up, retired, so that's not going to happen. It's up to AP and Journey it looks like.

Okay, now you're just deliberately trying to pick a fight with the Loons.