It's a Simple American Idol Choice

[Voyager]

My opinion is that Kris will be a bigger hit than Adam regardless. Adam will be another Rueben, Clay, or that gray haired guy.

Are you living in a different world or what? Rueben and Gayken suck horribly compared to Adam.

Kris will probably be a one-hit wonder after singing a song that was written, arranged, and produced by someone else. Adam will become a world-renowned rock icon.

I thought there was already a thread on this?

[BobbyinTN]

I just don't understand why people have to get so nasty with each other on this forum. It's amazing how some can't state their opinions without fucking with someone else.

I like Adam and Kris. However, I like Adam's style better.


I do think it was shitty of them not to change the key of the song for Kris. But, that song is NOT Kris' style. I think the song may have been "written for" Adam, or at least someone with his chops.

And listen folks, this is my chastisement of a few of you and I know I shouldn't do it, but here goes:

Throughout history there have been singers. In that history, there have been people who liked those singers and some who didn't like those singers.

Steve Perry, Steve Augeri, Arnel Pineda, Celine Dion, Air Supply, Bonnie Tyler, Aretha Franklin and many of the greats are INCREDIBLE singers.

I don't really care for Aretha Franklin's singing style, but it would be stupid of me to say she can't sing. That's my biggest problem with critics, if you don't like someone's style, that's fine, but if you say Adam or Steve Augeri or anyone that can obviously sing, CAN'T sing, that says more about you than it does about the singer you're criticising.

[brywool]

that song they both had to sing last night SUCKED. I LOVED Simon's comment about it's cheesiness.

[brywool]

I just don't understand why people have to get so nasty with each other on this forum. It's amazing how some can't state their opinions without fucking with someone else.

I like Adam and Kris. However, I like Adam's style better.


I do think it was shitty of them not to change the key of the song for Kris. But, that song is NOT Kris' style. I think the song may have been "written for" Adam, or at least someone with his chops.

And listen folks, this is my chastisement of a few of you and I know I shouldn't do it, but here goes:

Throughout history there have been singers. In that history, there have been people who liked those singers and some who didn't like those singers.

Steve Perry, Steve Augeri, Arnel Pineda, Celine Dion, Air Supply, Bonnie Tyler, Aretha Franklin and many of the greats are INCREDIBLE singers.

I don't really care for Aretha Franklin's singing style, but it would be stupid of me to say she can't sing. That's my biggest problem with critics, if you don't like someone's style, that's fine, but if you say Adam or Steve Augeri or anyone that can obviously sing, CAN'T sing, that says more about you than it does about the singer you're criticising.

Listen you son of a bitch...!

[BobbyinTN]

I just don't understand why people have to get so nasty with each other on this forum. It's amazing how some can't state their opinions without fucking with someone else.

I like Adam and Kris. However, I like Adam's style better.


I do think it was shitty of them not to change the key of the song for Kris. But, that song is NOT Kris' style. I think the song may have been "written for" Adam, or at least someone with his chops.

And listen folks, this is my chastisement of a few of you and I know I shouldn't do it, but here goes:

Throughout history there have been singers. In that history, there have been people who liked those singers and some who didn't like those singers.

Steve Perry, Steve Augeri, Arnel Pineda, Celine Dion, Air Supply, Bonnie Tyler, Aretha Franklin and many of the greats are INCREDIBLE singers.

I don't really care for Aretha Franklin's singing style, but it would be stupid of me to say she can't sing. That's my biggest problem with critics, if you don't like someone's style, that's fine, but if you say Adam or Steve Augeri or anyone that can obviously sing, CAN'T sing, that says more about you than it does about the singer you're criticising.

Listen you son of a bitch...!

LOL! You don't know my mother, do you?

[knox]

My opinion is that Kris will be a bigger hit than Adam regardless. Adam will be another Rueben, Clay, or that gray haired guy.

Are you living in a different world or what? Rueben and Gayken suck horribly compared to Adam.

Kris will probably be a one-hit wonder after singing a song that was written, arranged, and produced by someone else. Adam will become a world-renowned rock icon.

I thought there was already a thread on this?

I said nothing about the talent comparison, merely the success of the people. Adam DOES sing better than those. That is undeniable.

[brywool]

I just don't understand why people have to get so nasty with each other on this forum. It's amazing how some can't state their opinions without fucking with someone else.

I like Adam and Kris. However, I like Adam's style better.


I do think it was shitty of them not to change the key of the song for Kris. But, that song is NOT Kris' style. I think the song may have been "written for" Adam, or at least someone with his chops.

And listen folks, this is my chastisement of a few of you and I know I shouldn't do it, but here goes:

Throughout history there have been singers. In that history, there have been people who liked those singers and some who didn't like those singers.

Steve Perry, Steve Augeri, Arnel Pineda, Celine Dion, Air Supply, Bonnie Tyler, Aretha Franklin and many of the greats are INCREDIBLE singers.

I don't really care for Aretha Franklin's singing style, but it would be stupid of me to say she can't sing. That's my biggest problem with critics, if you don't like someone's style, that's fine, but if you say Adam or Steve Augeri or anyone that can obviously sing, CAN'T sing, that says more about you than it does about the singer you're criticising.

Listen you son of a bitch...!

LOL! You don't know my mother, do you?

I've only seen the back of her head...

[Babyblue]

I just don't understand why people have to get so nasty with each other on this forum. It's amazing how some can't state their opinions without fucking with someone else.

I like Adam and Kris. However, I like Adam's style better.


I do think it was shitty of them not to change the key of the song for Kris. But, that song is NOT Kris' style. I think the song may have been "written for" Adam, or at least someone with his chops.

And listen folks, this is my chastisement of a few of you and I know I shouldn't do it, but here goes:

Throughout history there have been singers. In that history, there have been people who liked those singers and some who didn't like those singers.

Steve Perry, Steve Augeri, Arnel Pineda, Celine Dion, Air Supply, Bonnie Tyler, Aretha Franklin and many of the greats are INCREDIBLE singers.

I don't really care for Aretha Franklin's singing style, but it would be stupid of me to say she can't sing. That's my biggest problem with critics, if you don't like someone's style, that's fine, but if you say Adam or Steve Augeri or anyone that can obviously sing, CAN'T sing, that says more about you than it does about the singer you're criticising.

Listen you son of a bitch...!

LOL! You don't know my mother, do you?

[brywool]

My opinion is that Kris will be a bigger hit than Adam regardless. Adam will be another Rueben, Clay, or that gray haired guy.

Are you living in a different world or what? Rueben and Gayken suck horribly compared to Adam.

Kris will probably be a one-hit wonder after singing a song that was written, arranged, and produced by someone else. Adam will become a world-renowned rock icon.

I thought there was already a thread on this?

I said nothing about the talent comparison, merely the success of the people. Adam DOES sing better than those. That is undeniable.

Adam sings better, but needs to be reigned in. Hopefully, once he gets a producer, that'll happen. Kris is a bit more 'tasteful' in what he does with his voice, but Adam definitely has the chops. I'm just glad that Timberlake wannabe got kicked off. He sucked.

[lights1961]

Adam is more Meatloaf style than Freddy or Perry style... and nothing wrong with that... a good duet would be Adam and Allison doing dashboard lights.
Kris is boring... will fade into sunset ala Taylor Hicks.... Kirs sounds like any of the artist today nothing different to the table. he is a clone to Mayer and the Fray.
as is David Cook and Daughtry are a clone of coldplay and Nickleback... boring one deminsional voices... my humble opinion.

Allison is the true idol...but got voted off.



Rick

[Deb]

Adam is more Meatloaf style than Freddy or Perry style... and nothing wrong with that... a good duet would be Adam and Allison doing dashboard lights.
Kris is boring... will fade into sunset ala Taylor Hicks.... Kirs sounds like any of the artist today nothing different to the table. he is a clone to Mayer and the Fray.
as is David Cook and Daughtry are a clone of coldplay and Nickleback... boring one deminsional voices... my humble opinion.

Allison is the true idol...but got voted off.

Rick

That would be a good one too, loved their Slowride duet.

[brywool]

Allison could only do one thing though. She was good, but not great.

[BobbyinTN]

I just don't understand why people have to get so nasty with each other on this forum. It's amazing how some can't state their opinions without fucking with someone else.

I like Adam and Kris. However, I like Adam's style better.


I do think it was shitty of them not to change the key of the song for Kris. But, that song is NOT Kris' style. I think the song may have been "written for" Adam, or at least someone with his chops.

And listen folks, this is my chastisement of a few of you and I know I shouldn't do it, but here goes:

Throughout history there have been singers. In that history, there have been people who liked those singers and some who didn't like those singers.

Steve Perry, Steve Augeri, Arnel Pineda, Celine Dion, Air Supply, Bonnie Tyler, Aretha Franklin and many of the greats are INCREDIBLE singers.

I don't really care for Aretha Franklin's singing style, but it would be stupid of me to say she can't sing. That's my biggest problem with critics, if you don't like someone's style, that's fine, but if you say Adam or Steve Augeri or anyone that can obviously sing, CAN'T sing, that says more about you than it does about the singer you're criticising.

Listen you son of a bitch...!

LOL! You don't know my mother, do you?

I've only seen the back of her head...

EVIL!!! I love it!

Wait til you see the back of mine.

[Ehwmatt]

AI is a joke any way. It's supposed to be an amateur contest for undiscovered singers. It's far from it. Who gives a flyin fuck. It's rigged from the get go.

Not sure about it being rigged, but from all the youtube clips Adam was a professional singer before American Idol.

Others were also professional, but the key is that they aren't currently signed to a contract with anyone else, because Idol's contract makes you sign over your life to them.

So how is that fair and keeping with the original spirit of the show? Unless I'm totally misunderstanding the concept of Idol...

[Don]

Would being a cabaret singer qualify as being a professional. Where is the bar set in this regard? I've never thought the show was about getting some hick off the street, I thought the idea was getting somebody signed who has never been. Was Adam on a label, they would have caught that already, I would think.

Maybe I'm missing the whole purpose of the show.

[Jubilee]

Would being a cabaret singer qualify as being a professional. Where is the bar set in this regard? I've never thought the show was about getting some hick off the street, I thought the idea was getting somebody signed who has never been. Was Adam on a label, they would have caught that already, I would think.

Maybe I'm missing the whole purpose of the show.

I suppose it would depend on what one defines as "professional". As you say, they're not just getting hicks off the street, or people who only sing in the shower then decide to show up on audition day. One would think that in order to have the level of proficiency that it takes to get through the first audition with the judges, the contestants must have spent a certain amount of time performing, whether it was in church groups, bar bands or on cruise ships - whatever. After all the show really isn't about grooming someone to become the next Idol, it's about taking someone who already has the tools and giving them (presumably) their first big break.

[Ehwmatt]

Would being a cabaret singer qualify as being a professional. Where is the bar set in this regard? I've never thought the show was about getting some hick off the street, I thought the idea was getting somebody signed who has never been. Was Adam on a label, they would have caught that already, I would think.

Maybe I'm missing the whole purpose of the show.

I suppose it would depend on what one defines as "professional". As you say, they're not just getting hicks off the street, or people who only sing in the shower then decide to show up on audition day. One would think that in order to have the level of proficiency that it takes to get through the first audition with the judges, the contestants must have spent a certain amount of time performing, whether it was in church groups, bar bands or on cruise ships - whatever. After all the show really isn't about grooming someone to become the next Idol, it's about taking someone who already has the tools and giving them (presumably) their first big break.

I agree with Jubilee, they need to have honed their skills in some avenues prior to coming on the show... but this guy was in big budget theatre. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culture ... idol-.html

That's a crock, I don't care which way you slice it.

[Luvsaugeri]

Would being a cabaret singer qualify as being a professional. Where is the bar set in this regard? I've never thought the show was about getting some hick off the street, I thought the idea was getting somebody signed who has never been. Was Adam on a label, they would have caught that already, I would think.

Maybe I'm missing the whole purpose of the show.

I suppose it would depend on what one defines as "professional". As you say, they're not just getting hicks off the street, or people who only sing in the shower then decide to show up on audition day. One would think that in order to have the level of proficiency that it takes to get through the first audition with the judges, the contestants must have spent a certain amount of time performing, whether it was in church groups, bar bands or on cruise ships - whatever. After all the show really isn't about grooming someone to become the next Idol, it's about taking someone who already has the tools and giving them (presumably) their first big break.

I agree with Jubilee, they need to have honed their skills in some avenues prior to coming on the show... but this guy was in big budget theatre. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culture ... idol-.html

That's a crock, I don't care which way you slice it.

Several contestants have had record contracts before they were on Idol. (Carly Smithson, Michael Johns)

[Ehwmatt]

Would being a cabaret singer qualify as being a professional. Where is the bar set in this regard? I've never thought the show was about getting some hick off the street, I thought the idea was getting somebody signed who has never been. Was Adam on a label, they would have caught that already, I would think.

Maybe I'm missing the whole purpose of the show.

I suppose it would depend on what one defines as "professional". As you say, they're not just getting hicks off the street, or people who only sing in the shower then decide to show up on audition day. One would think that in order to have the level of proficiency that it takes to get through the first audition with the judges, the contestants must have spent a certain amount of time performing, whether it was in church groups, bar bands or on cruise ships - whatever. After all the show really isn't about grooming someone to become the next Idol, it's about taking someone who already has the tools and giving them (presumably) their first big break.

I agree with Jubilee, they need to have honed their skills in some avenues prior to coming on the show... but this guy was in big budget theatre. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culture ... idol-.html

That's a crock, I don't care which way you slice it.

Several contestants have had record contracts before they were on Idol. (Carly Smithson, Michael Johns)

Then they shouldn't have been on there either

[Glenn]

It's simple for me. I like Kris' style much better.

(I thought Adam sounded terrible on that last song as well)

OK. Choice is choice. Just know that trained vocalists would disagree with you.

And just judging by your username, do you prefer Steve Augeri to Steve Perry? It's cool of you do, just hard to comprehend. Kinda like preferring Kris to Adam. Hmm..... Oh well.

Comprehend this you butt taster........

Never mind...I noticed Kell (Luvsaugeri) just pretty much schooled your ass in a much nicer way than I could.


But you never fail to entertain....I can almost always come in here and say to my self "What dumbass statement has Madsplash made today" and come away satisfied.


And while your senor citizen hero is home petting his cats, Augeri, who had a real rough 2006, is back at it...You know...singing and preforming...

[Ehwmatt]

Butt taster LOL. That's great.

[yak]

Allison could only do one thing though. She was good, but not great.

Sometimes, one thing is all it takes.

[Chubby321]

Adam is more Meatloaf style than Freddy or Perry style... and nothing wrong with that... a good duet would be Adam and Allison doing dashboard lights.
Kris is boring... will fade into sunset ala Taylor Hicks.... Kirs sounds like any of the artist today nothing different to the table. he is a clone to Mayer and the Fray.
as is David Cook and Daughtry are a clone of coldplay and Nickleback... boring one deminsional voices... my humble opinion.

Allison is the true idol...but got voted off.

I think he blends well with Kiss

[Vladan]

It's simple. Do you prefer Steve Perry/Freddie Mercury (Adam), or do you prefer John Mayer/Edwin McCain (Kris)?

The last song they sang showed that Kris isn't in Adam's league, vocally. He was cracking and flat and couldn't hit the notes. The song was too big for him.

As the judges have always said, "It's a singing contest". If it really is, it's a joke that Kris is even on the same stage as Adam.

But, what will the youth of America decide? Who knows?

This post is hands down, the most ludicrous post I have EVER seen here, apart from I think the other famous and controversial one. I seriously, seriously often feel sorry for Andrew here at times, all the rubbish he has to put up with, take it on the chin, and just move on. My god man, what the hell?

Words just cannot describe, they just can't. I am sure your a nice guy, but do you and this message board mix well?

What are you talking about? I expressed an opinion and can get most any trained singer to agree with me. It's very simple and not a big deal. Why would this post be a problem for anyone? If you don't agree, that's fine, but why the overdramatic BS?

Take a chill pill, man. And if you have a huge problem with me, PM me and we can discuss it and not waste time here.

Words cannot describe? C'mon, man.

Well I have no problem with you, or anyone here.

This is the problem "Do you prefer Steve Perry/Freddie Mercury (Adam), or do you prefer John Mayer/Edwin McCain (Kris)?" words cannot describe that statement, it's simply insane.

Neither of those two Idol douche bags are any good, where is Perry and Mercury are legends. Idol is a complete hack (that's my opinion) and I'd say I wouldn't be wrong. Now! back to matter at hand. I don't hate you mate your alright, and have a vivid imagination which is interesting, but yes perhaps I shouldn't of been overly dramatic, sure.

We have to realistic here.

[Vladan]

It's simple. Do you prefer Steve Perry/Freddie Mercury (Adam), or do you prefer John Mayer/Edwin McCain (Kris)?

The last song they sang showed that Kris isn't in Adam's league, vocally. He was cracking and flat and couldn't hit the notes. The song was too big for him.

As the judges have always said, "It's a singing contest". If it really is, it's a joke that Kris is even on the same stage as Adam.

But, what will the youth of America decide? Who knows?

This post is hands down, the most ludicrous post I have EVER seen here, apart from I think the other famous and controversial one. I seriously, seriously often feel sorry for Andrew here at times, all the rubbish he has to put up with, take it on the chin, and just move on. My god man, what the hell?

Words just cannot describe, they just can't. I am sure your a nice guy, but do you and this message board mix well?

Haven't been around here much, have you???

Lol, true! and you know what's real scary, I have been coming here since 2005, and there are people who have been less than 6 months, with a higher post count than me, now that is interesting. And what is even crazier! is that you, Rocker Chic, have been coming here since 2002, and you have less than 700 posts... I've seen Gideon spike half of that amount in a week.