Is this what Steve Perry suffers from?

[slucero]

Sorry bout that guys... got the wrong name when I quoted!.... my apologies...

ok back on topic..

"procrastination" is the habitual putting off of something...

Perry said he thinks about recording new music multiple times day... and because you see no new releases you assume he's procrastinating...

Maybe Perry just means record music.... that's it...as in that's what he does for fun... like others fish, or paint...

I don't see him procrastinating at all... if he records music... he doesn't have to release it... that's two completely separate things...

Maybe in his "retirement" he enjoys recording as his hobby...

[Don]

www.Steveperryrocks.com
or www.steveperry.ning.com

Your choice, which one do you want?

You're funny. Not.

I try.

[steveo777]

www.Steveperryrocks.com
or www.steveperry.ning.com

Your choice, which one do you want?

You're funny. Not.

I try.

Actually, I thought it was brilliant. There's a big message in the blank web pages. You just have to find it.

[Don]

www.Steveperryrocks.com
or www.steveperry.ning.com

Your choice, which one do you want?

You're funny. Not.

I try.

Actually, I thought it was brilliant. There's a big message in the blank web pages. You just have to find it.

[Jana]

www.Steveperryrocks.com
or www.steveperry.ning.com

Your choice, which one do you want?

You're funny. Not.

I try.

Actually, I thought it was brilliant. There's a big message in the blank web pages. You just have to find it.

Check this out. Maybe I jinxed it.

http://arnelpinedarocks.com/forum/

I'm lost. Am I supposed to see something? You're brilliance is eluding me.

[Don]

www.Steveperryrocks.com
or www.steveperry.ning.com

Your choice, which one do you want?

You're funny. Not.

I try.

Actually, I thought it was brilliant. There's a big message in the blank web pages. You just have to find it.

Check this out. Maybe I jinxed it.

http://arnelpinedarocks.com/forum/

I'm lost. Am I supposed to see something? You're brilliance is eluding me.

It had disappeared, I thought I broke something. Maybe they're trying to remove my 23 membership profiles

Elusive brilliance is the best.

[yak]

It's hard to tell with Perry. It's not like the guy stays totally away from the music industry. He did work with Steve Lukather's son not long ago, got involved with the Glee show on Fox and so on. He is doing stuff, just not doing what WE want him to do.

Which tells me that he simply does not care about WE

Schon said that SP turned his back on his fans and frankly, the longer he procrastinates to appear, the more I believe it.

Doesn't necessarily mean he turned his back on fans, I think. If I feel disappointed by him it's because of my own expectations...those expectations may be selfish/unrealistic of me. Do you or did you always do what your family members or employers wanted/expected you to do? Not me!

If you could retire today from a grueling/boring job, wouldn't you? When I was in my twenties, I would have loved to travel alot...sounds uncomfortable nowadays in my fifties.

So you're saying the Journey gig was "boring?" And retirement is not? Steve had all the control, so I don't see how it could have been boring or grueling. He once did say you could "end up on the side of the road in the weeds somewhere," referring to the always being on the road. He did get off his merry-go-round, but it seems he wanted the band to get off with him, and wait around until he decided to get back on. The word infinity comes to mind.

I don't know anybody, not even government workers, who can work for approximately ten years, and then retire for the rest of their lives! I seriously don't think he wants anything to do with the fans either. I don't see him ever touring ever again, which is probably a good thing, because he never seems to finish one anyway.

[SherriBerry]

It's hard to tell with Perry. It's not like the guy stays totally away from the music industry. He did work with Steve Lukather's son not long ago, got involved with the Glee show on Fox and so on. He is doing stuff, just not doing what WE want him to do.

Which tells me that he simply does not care about WE

Schon said that SP turned his back on his fans and frankly, the longer he procrastinates to appear, the more I believe it.

Doesn't necessarily mean he turned his back on fans, I think. If I feel disappointed by him it's because of my own expectations...those expectations may be selfish/unrealistic of me. Do you or did you always do what your family members or employers wanted/expected you to do? Not me!

If you could retire today from a grueling/boring job, wouldn't you? When I was in my twenties, I would have loved to travel alot...sounds uncomfortable nowadays in my fifties.

So you're saying the Journey gig was "boring?" And retirement is not? Steve had all the control, so I don't see how it could have been boring or grueling. He once did say you could "end up on the side of the road in the weeds somewhere," referring to the always being on the road. He did get off his merry-go-round, but it seems he wanted the band to get off with him, and wait around until he decided to get back on. The word infinity comes to mind.

I don't know anybody, not even government workers, who can work for approximately ten years, and then retire for the rest of their lives! I seriously don't think he wants anything to do with the fans either. I don't see him ever touring ever again, which is probably a good thing, because he never seems to finish one anyway.

SP didn't work for only ten years. He was putting bands together and trying to break into the industry for years before Journey, probably around 1970 or so. Though he took a couple of years off for a sabbatical, he did FTLOSM and then TBF in 1996 - that's more than 25 years in the industry, and he's still working on projects.

As for the fans, who went into the studio and remastered all of Journey's albums plus the DVD? I'm grateful it was Steve Perry. I hope he chooses to perform again, but not doing so isn't turning his back on his fans. We all seem to be in agreement that he had serious vocal issues after touring the Journey catalogue for ten years and maybe his hesitation also has a lot to do with not wanting to let down his fans and their expectations. I hope that isn't why, because most of us love the maturity and depth his voice took on towards TBF anyway. Whatever he chooses to do with his life, his fans should be supportive and just grateful for the gift he gave us instead of acting like greedy children demanding more.

[Michigan Girl]

SP didn't work for only ten years.

Thank you!!!!

[portland]

It's hard to tell with Perry. It's not like the guy stays totally away from the music industry. He did work with Steve Lukather's son not long ago, got involved with the Glee show on Fox and so on. He is doing stuff, just not doing what WE want him to do.

Which tells me that he simply does not care about WE

Schon said that SP turned his back on his fans and frankly, the longer he procrastinates to appear, the more I believe it.

Doesn't necessarily mean he turned his back on fans, I think. If I feel disappointed by him it's because of my own expectations...those expectations may be selfish/unrealistic of me. Do you or did you always do what your family members or employers wanted/expected you to do? Not me!

If you could retire today from a grueling/boring job, wouldn't you? When I was in my twenties, I would have loved to travel alot...sounds uncomfortable nowadays in my fifties.

So you're saying the Journey gig was "boring?" And retirement is not? Steve had all the control, so I don't see how it could have been boring or grueling. He once did say you could "end up on the side of the road in the weeds somewhere," referring to the always being on the road. He did get off his merry-go-round, but it seems he wanted the band to get off with him, and wait around until he decided to get back on. The word infinity comes to mind.

I don't know anybody, not even government workers, who can work for approximately ten years, and then retire for the rest of their lives! I seriously don't think he wants anything to do with the fans either. I don't see him ever touring ever again, which is probably a good thing, because he never seems to finish one anyway.

SP didn't work for only ten years. He was putting bands together and trying to break into the industry for years before Journey, probably around 1970 or so. Though he took a couple of years off for a sabbatical, he did FTLOSM and then TBF in 1996 - that's more than 25 years in the industry, and he's still working on projects.

As for the fans, who went into the studio and remastered all of Journey's albums plus the DVD? I'm grateful it was Steve Perry. I hope he chooses to perform again, but not doing so isn't turning his back on his fans. We all seem to be in agreement that he had serious vocal issues after touring the Journey catalogue for ten years and maybe his hesitation also has a lot to do with not wanting to let down his fans and their expectations. I hope that isn't why, because most of us love the maturity and depth his voice took on towards TBF anyway. Whatever he chooses to do with his life, his fans should be supportive and just grateful for the gift he gave us instead of acting like greedy children demanding more.

+1

[Voyager]

I'm trying to figure out how Steve's procrastination = greedy, demanding children? Can't the two be separated into two different trains of thought?

1. Yes, Perry's fans would love new music, a tour, or both.

2. Steve has never said he retired. He has in fact alluded to wanting to do more new music and touring. But he has procrastinated and it hasn't happened.

[portland]

I'm trying to figure out how Steve's procrastination = greedy, demanding children? Can't the two be separated into two different trains of thought?

1. Yes, Perry's fans would love new music, a tour, or both.

2. Steve has never said he retired. He has in fact alluded to wanting to do more new music and touring. But he has procrastinated and it hasn't happened.

Yeah it is hard to be a Steve Perry fan...you have to play both sides of the net

[journey361]

I think he should have done something in the basis of touring or recording 10 years ago. He's now 60 going on 61, he may not be heard of again in that way.

[portland]

I think he should have done something in the basis of touring or recording 10 years ago. He's now 60 going on 61, he may not be heard of again in that way.

Well Lionel Ritche is on Idol....and he is how old? come on SMFP where to hell are ya?

[Playitloudforme]

I don't see what he's doing as procrastination. It just isn't on my time frame. Procrastination to me may be faster than snot to someone else... make sense?

Do I wish he'd move his tuckus? Sure... but I'm not going to label the wait time anything. I can't put that kind of pressure on anyone. I'll just be happier than all get out when it does make it to my ever waiting hands.

[yak]

UH....I was referring to the years of hard touring that Perry did, which according to him, is what burned him out. Not referring to the pre Journey years, just the touring that Perry claims burned him out, and enabled him to enjoy the life he has now.

[journey361]

Again, sure all those singers have a legacy, but is it anywhere near the legacy Mr. Sir Perry has. Is he that much better than almost any other singer. He knows it, and he's keeping it. He ain't letting anyone know for sure he's toast.

[DrFU]

Interesting articles on how perfectionism leads to procrastination:

http://www.structuredprocrastination.com

http://www.structuredprocrastination.co ... ionism.php

If this is the case, it would make sense as to why Steve seems to procrastinate when it comes to putting out any new material or touring:

"I'm going to get some new music out.... yeah... it's at the top of my list... yes I feel the pressure from everyone... I know how important it is to everyone... I'm going to get to it right after I get my hip fixed... and right after I get the Journey DVD produced... and right after I go to another Dodgers game... and right after I..."

I don't know if they fit SP, but those are pretty good explanations for some of the weird shit that goes on in MY head. Cool site, Voyager.

[Marabelle]

he actually has an acute case of perryititis which loosely translated is having "too many people in his bizness". It causes him hours and weeks and months and years of avoidance of large crowds and musical instruments and fans but instead of reducing the fever and discomfort it has a paradoxical effect where the more he reacts the more people want to crowd around him asking him questions, wanting him to sing, see and be with him and touch him. its incurable and chronic; people won't give up and he can't be cured.

[yak]

he actually has an acute case of perryititis which loosely translated is having "too many people in his bizness". It causes him hours and weeks and months and years of avoidance of large crowds and musical instruments and fans but instead of reducing the fever and discomfort it has a paradoxical effect where the more he reacts the more people want to crowd around him asking him questions, wanting him to sing, see and be with him and touch him. its incurable and chronic; people won't give up and he can't be cured.

Do you think if people left him alone and stopped talking about wanting him to sing, that he would?

[journey361]

I think for something like 35 to 40 years, every1 has been telling him how great he is and he wants to leave it at that.

[Shadowsong]

he actually has an acute case of perryititis which loosely translated is having "too many people in his bizness". It causes him hours and weeks and months and years of avoidance of large crowds and musical instruments and fans but instead of reducing the fever and discomfort it has a paradoxical effect where the more he reacts the more people want to crowd around him asking him questions, wanting him to sing, see and be with him and touch him. its incurable and chronic; people won't give up and he can't be cured.

I think at this point he has a love/hate relationship with the music biz.
Most recently I am drawn to wonder what input he had in the song "Broken" that he produced with Trev Lukather (aka son of Steve Lukather) I do think he deserves to have his own name.

Steve Perry seems to try to keep a few toes in on the music scene lending his talents where he feels the desire.
That's ok with me as is his attire. I don't find anything wrong with black t shirts. I myself almost live in black tank tops.
This evening I was out for a quick salad fixin at Trader Joes after my heartache of a failed smog & "Foolish Heart" played over the speaker system.
For a few minutes I forgot my woes of the day as I drifted off into the song. It is still so hard not to feel him when you hear his unmistakenable voice.

All I want from him is for him to have a happy life.

[Rip Rokken]

Interesting articles on how perfectionism leads to procrastination:

http://www.structuredprocrastination.com

(ahem) did you say Chinese Democracy?