OT: Terminator Salvation

[Rip Rokken]

Saw it tonight and it was COOL! A little sketchy in places toward the end, but it has some real surprises for fans of the series.

Who else saw it, and what did you think?

[texafana]

Major let down. Arnie's scene was quick but nice. Bale once again proves he has talent but just can't connect with the audience. I expected so much more. Budget movie or rental only.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Great action. McG has def. redeemed himself from at least a technical standpoint.
But whose bright idea was it to make a new character (Marcus) the focal point, in what should be John Connor's story?
No real complaints aside from Marcus's character arc...couldn't care less about that guy.
It's kinda like waiting all these years for Indy 4 to come out, only to find Shia LaBeouf hogging a majority of the screentime.
Don't get the creative logic behind it at all.

[verslibre]

Heard this movie is worse than Wolverine! Scared my $10 back into my pocket. And why do the trailers give away that shit about Sam Worthington's character? That's messed up!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Heard this movie is worse than Wolverine! Scared my $10 back into my pocket.

Wolverine is barely deserving of a sci-fi channel basic cable premiere.
For what its worth, T4 did not leave me feeling ripped off.
Script has a few problems, but it's a satisfactory summer flick.

[Ehwmatt]

Goin to see it tomorrow to top off a killer weekend... Frontiers last night, Elton John and Billy Joel tonight, and Terminator. Can't get much better than that.

[KDOUBLEU]

Goin to see it tomorrow to top off a killer weekend... Frontiers last night, Elton John and Billy Joel tonight, and Terminator. Can't get much better than that.

Sounds like a fantastic weekend!

[G.I.Jim]

Just saw it last night, and it was awesome!!! I did feel a little disconnected from the story at times, but overall...just an awesome action movie! The scenes with "Arnold" were freking fantastic, and really caught me off guard. They made a lot of little references to the older movies that I thought were a nice touch too. If you're paying attention, you'll catch them. GO SEE IT NOW!

[Zedul]

I thought it was a huge letdown, even worse than season 2 of T:SCC

[Carla777]

Just saw it last night, and it was awesome!!! I did feel a little disconnected from the story at times, but overall...just an awesome action movie! The scenes with "Arnold" were freking fantastic, and really caught me off guard. They made a lot of little references to the older movies that I thought were a nice touch too. If you're paying attention, you'll catch them. GO SEE IT NOW!

sound great!!! can't wait to see it..but i have to wait..all the movies arrive late here

[Frontiers65]

Heard this movie is worse than Wolverine! Scared my $10 back into my pocket.

Wolverine is barely deserving of a sci-fi channel basic cable premiere.
For what its worth, T4 did not leave me feeling ripped off.
Script has a few problems, but it's a satisfactory summer flick.

I thought Wolverine was a great movie! I know it did not come close to the comic version but it had action and a good story line for those who do not know the comics.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Heard this movie is worse than Wolverine! Scared my $10 back into my pocket.

Wolverine is barely deserving of a sci-fi channel basic cable premiere.
For what its worth, T4 did not leave me feeling ripped off.
Script has a few problems, but it's a satisfactory summer flick.

I thought Wolverine was a great movie! I know it did not come close to the comic version but it had action and a good story line for those who do not know the comics.

Not in any way a comic purist here.
Just thought the movie was shit.
Bad script, and filled with so many guest cameos you may think you're watching a special mutant episode of the Love Boat.
Even the FX were crap.
Fox should be embarrssed to put out this substandard shit in the post-Dark Knight/Iron Man cinema age.

[brandonx76]

Fox should be embarrssed to put out this substandard shit in the post-Dark Knight/Iron Man cinema age.

I haven't seen either Xmen Origins or the new Terminator. Had high hopes for the new Terminator, but after the feedback I'm hearing, it seems like a decent rental at best. What a shame when they waste terrific source material (see also Alien Resurrection, and Predator (Alien vs))

Great point however, TNG, perhaps they (movie execs) will pay attention to the box office returns.

I thought something was up when I read that James Cameron did not give McG his 'blessing'....shame Cameron didn't handle/direct. I'm sure Avatar will rock, however.

[Zedul]

I haven't seen either Xmen Origins or the new Terminator. Had high hopes for the new Terminator, but after the feedback I'm hearing, it seems like a decent rental at best. What a shame when they waste terrific source material (see also Alien Resurrection, and Predator (Alien vs))

Great point however, TNG, perhaps they (movie execs) will pay attention to the box office returns.

I thought something was up when I read that James Cameron did not give McG his 'blessing'....shame Cameron didn't handle/direct. I'm sure Avatar will rock, however.

That's a good analogy - the new Terminator is about on par with Alien Resurrection.

The story was really blah - it's like "Oh, Battlestar Galactica is popular right now, so why don't we just have a Terminator skinjob (hybrid terminator/human) and make that the plot of the movie!"

[Ehwmatt]

Wolverine entertained me, nothing more, nothing less.

T4, jsut got back... and wow, I'm majorly disappointed. Really sad to see them underutilize Bale. They failed to create a believable and hopeless post-apocalyptic world too. Even the huge battles were not... huge at all. Really bummed.

Maybe my expectations were too high, but man, I'm very saddened. James Cameron was a must.

[Rip Rokken]

This is spoilerish so don't read it if you mind.
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The biggest thing I didn't understand was why Marcus Wright was allowed to keep his free will. I thought at one point Skynet had updated his program, but that didn't seem to be the case. Maybe it had to do with his human brain.

[Don]

Night at the museum 2 has effectively neutered this movie's box office drawal.

[Ehwmatt]

This is spoilerish so don't read it if you mind.

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Didn't he rip the chip out? I got that he had enough humanity to override the "will" of the newly installed chip to allow him to reach back and rip it out

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[Rip Rokken]

This is spoilerish so don't read it if you mind.

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Didn't he rip the chip out? I got that he had enough humanity to override the "will" of the newly installed chip to allow him to reach back and rip it out

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SPOLIER TO THE RIGHT --> It was when he plugged into Skynet in the control room and it said "Sync Complete". I was thinking they hooked into him and reprogrammed him then and there, and was surprised when Skynet started trying to negotiate with him before he pulled out his chip. I'm still a little confused as to why they had to go back in time to make an advanced model to be used in the future, anyway. <-- SPOLIER TO THE LEFT
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[Ehwmatt]

I guess we will just chalk it up to Hollywood requiring another viewer leap of faith Rip. Now, anyone got anything I can use to calm my nerves? I'm aging by the minute watching the Cavs fucking melt down.

[Rip Rokken]

I guess we will just chalk it up to Hollywood requiring another viewer leap of faith Rip. Now, anyone got anything I can use to calm my nerves? I'm aging by the minute watching the Cavs fucking melt down.

Maybe the same stuff they tried to give Marcus Wright at the beginning of the movie? He seemed to rest quite well for a while.

[Ehwmatt]

I guess we will just chalk it up to Hollywood requiring another viewer leap of faith Rip. Now, anyone got anything I can use to calm my nerves? I'm aging by the minute watching the Cavs fucking melt down.

Maybe the same stuff they tried to give Marcus Wright at the beginning of the movie? He seemed to rest quite well for a while.

I'll need a 15 year coma if this keeps up. Either that or I'll weep openly in the streets like a baby. Fuckkkk...

[Don]

LeBron having to carry 50% of the offense every single game is not going to work.

[Ehwmatt]

LeBron having to carry 50% of the offense every single game is not going to work.

Orlando is a terrible match-up for us. But the offense was showing signs of stagnation as early as the Detroit series, our dominance in the first two series aside. We're in deep fuckin trouble. When you've lived in Cleveland and followed sports for any amount of time, you get that "old Cleveland feeling." I've got that right now. I don't really think I should watch any more games this series, it's just ugly basketball on both ends. I'm already out a wallet and an end table from throwin shit.

[Don]

LeBron having to carry 50% of the offense every single game is not going to work.

Orlando is a terrible match-up for us. But the offense was showing signs of stagnation as early as the Detroit series, our dominance in the first two series aside. We're in deep fuckin trouble. When you've lived in Cleveland and followed sports for any amount of time, you get that "old Cleveland feeling." I've got that right now. I don't really think I should watch any more games this series, it's just ugly basketball on both ends. I'm already out a wallet and an end table from throwin shit.

The Phillies were my savior last year. Now I can wait another 20 years for a Philadelphia championship.

[Ehwmatt]

LeBron having to carry 50% of the offense every single game is not going to work.

Orlando is a terrible match-up for us. But the offense was showing signs of stagnation as early as the Detroit series, our dominance in the first two series aside. We're in deep fuckin trouble. When you've lived in Cleveland and followed sports for any amount of time, you get that "old Cleveland feeling." I've got that right now. I don't really think I should watch any more games this series, it's just ugly basketball on both ends. I'm already out a wallet and an end table from throwin shit.

The Phillies were my savior last year. Now I can wait another 20 years for a Philadelphia championship.

20? There are people here who are collecting SS and on Medicare that are still waiting to see one.

[The_Noble_Cause]

This is spoilerish so don't read it if you mind.
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The biggest thing I didn't understand was why Marcus Wright was allowed to keep his free will. I thought at one point Skynet had updated his program, but that didn't seem to be the case. Maybe it had to do with his human brain.

This is from the same screenwriters who brought you Halle Berry's "Catwoman."
If the plot doesn't seem to hold up by the time you've reached your car in the parking lot, it's most likely because it doesn't.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Night at the museum 2 has effectively neutered this movie's box office drawal.

I don't know about that...
40 million for a franchise that was already showing its age, minus it's original star, seems pretty good.

[Glenn]

Planned sequels :

Director McG has announced that Terminator Salvation is the first of a new trilogy to revive the franchise, with both main actor Christian Bale and writer Jonathan Nolan signed up for two more films. Due to generally positive reception to preview footage of the film, the Halcyon Company chose to develop a sequel in December 2008 for release in 2011. The producers mentioned the Middle East as a possible shooting location.

McG said the time displacement equipment and the T-1000 will be reintroduced in the fifth film: "I like the idea and the perspective for the next picture that you meet Robert Patrick the way he looks today, and he's a scientist that's working on, you know, improving cell replication so we can stay healthier and we can cure diabetes and do all these things that sound like good ideas, and to once again live as idealized expressions as ourselves.


McG added the fifth film "is likely to be" about Connor himself timetravelling to 2011 to galvanize the world's forces against a Skynet attack, which would explore a "survivalist creature in our world doing his best to bring the world up to speed on an impending doom... and one could argue he meets his mother. I strongly suspect Linda Hamilton to be the star of the next film." McG also said the original story they had in mind for the T-1000 would satirize the world's "obsession" with youth and aging, and also described having "hunter killers and transports and harvesters and everything arriving in our time and Connor fighting back with conventional military warfare."

Connor's child, whom Kate is pregnant with in Salvation, will also be important. McG has stated that they've "arced out a story that includes that child and its fate and what it becomes in this world of man versus machine." McG has also mentioned that the film would show "the genesis of [Sam Worthington's character] Marcus."



"In the third film, it was suggested that their children together become important. That Kate eventually becomes the leader of the resistance when John Connor dies and that their children together become influential as well. Obviously, that's in a future that we're all working to prevent because we don't want John Connor to be killed -- but it is obviously implied that there are children involved."
—Bryce Dallas Howard, MTV News

[verslibre]

Bale is on for TWO more movies??? Whatever, as long as it doesn't mess with production on the third Batman film. Like the dude doesn't have enough dollars or pounds sterling.