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Postby Deb » Tue May 26, 2009 12:52 pm

:) Soto and May, 10 years ago........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C2MSp9nqWU
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Postby madsplash » Tue May 26, 2009 1:01 pm

Rick wrote:
madsplash wrote:Bottom line: JSS doesn't have the pipes and can't hit the notes.

Adam CAN.


I disagree. Have you seen the JSS Queen Concert?

Pore through some of these videos if you haven't.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_t ... ncert&aq=f


He can do some of the lower stuff very well, but doesn't have nearly the range of Adam Lambert.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Tue May 26, 2009 1:05 pm

Deb wrote::) Soto and May, 10 years ago........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C2MSp9nqWU


Journey w/Soto 2 years ago! :twisted: :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vmrbR5kqE
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Postby yulog » Tue May 26, 2009 1:06 pm

Deb wrote::) Soto and May, 10 years ago........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C2MSp9nqWU



Ouch! i couldn't even get through the whole vid, maybe it was his boy band hair Image
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Postby Voyager » Tue May 26, 2009 1:08 pm

Here is a collection of high notes from different singers:

Adam Lambert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ljSa8LJvQ

Steve Perry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vJElLyOL4

Freddie Mercury: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KY8Z69Oowc

Bruce Dickinson vs. Rob Halford: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtlxsR85d9Q

Steve Perry can hit an F6, Freddie can hit an E6. Do you think Adam can hit that range?

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Postby Jana » Tue May 26, 2009 1:10 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:
Deb wrote::) Soto and May, 10 years ago........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C2MSp9nqWU


Journey w/Soto 2 years ago! :twisted: :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vmrbR5kqE


Wow, Neal looks great all in black. :lol:

You can't prove Soto couldn't sing it. :evil: Though, probably not. Why have him sing it when Deen is so fantastic on that song.
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Postby Deb » Tue May 26, 2009 1:11 pm

Rick wrote:
madsplash wrote:Bottom line: JSS doesn't have the pipes and can't hit the notes.

Adam CAN.


I disagree. Have you seen the JSS Queen Concert?

Pore through some of these videos if you haven't.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_t ... ncert&aq=f


Mucho grassy ass, Rickster! One of my faves...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlzlFP-k ... re=related

Would love to see Jeff front Queen. Does a GREAT job on over 40 songs on that dvd! :) Guy was born to entertain, so either way, as long as he keeps singing, I'll be a happy camper!

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Postby Blueskies » Tue May 26, 2009 1:16 pm

Voyager wrote:
Rick wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Behshad wrote:Soto can hit every single note that mercury hit , no doubt. And in the long run a queen gig would give him a lot more exposure than his solo CDs.




You almost got away with this one Beshad...didn't catch it somehow before! Are you fucking SERIOUS??? Watch this clip than get back to me with this statement. :wink:
:lol: :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KY8Z69Oowc


I agree with Behshad. If Soto can carry the Journey catalog, he can sing anything Queen has. And I know Soto was rough at first, but after some vocal coaching, he was killing the Journey songs. In a good way.


In all due respect, I don't think JSS has the vocal register of Steve Perry, and I'm sure he doesn't claim to. I think JSS is a great singer who has the same level of passion for singing that Steve and Freddie had, but he cannot hit an F6 note with his voice like Perry could. The highest note Freddie could hit was an E6. I'm guessing that JSS would have a hard time hitting a C6, which is the note that must be hit to define a soprano singer.

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Postby Deb » Tue May 26, 2009 1:17 pm

Voyager wrote:Here is a collection of high notes from different singers:

Adam Lambert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ljSa8LJvQ

Steve Perry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vJElLyOL4

Freddie Mercury: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KY8Z69Oowc

Bruce Dickinson vs. Rob Halford: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtlxsR85d9Q

Steve Perry can hit an F6, Freddie can hit an E6. Do you think Adam can hit that range?

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I'll take "soul" over range, anyday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDtHpo3I ... re=related
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Postby Jubilee » Tue May 26, 2009 1:29 pm

I have a question, and by asking this question I mean no disrespect to JSS, but if Queen were seriously interested in JSS wouldn't they have done the deal by now? They've already had the opportunity to "audition" JSS they know him and they know his work. Aside from ramblings here on MR, has there ever been any indication of any real interest on Queen's part toward JSS? Along comes Adam Lambert and all of a sudden there's all this talk of Queen expressing interest in him, courting him, and otherwise trying to woo him. Hello? What's going on here? :? Was this ever really JSS's gig to lose in the first place??

Personally, I think JSS should do his own thing. He is formidable in his own right, and as stated before, he cannot continue being "the replacement guy" for the rest of his career.
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Postby Jana » Tue May 26, 2009 1:33 pm

Jubilee wrote:I have a question, and by asking this question I mean no disrespect to JSS, but if Queen were seriously interested in JSS wouldn't they have done the deal by now? They've already had the opportunity to "audition" JSS they know him and they know his work. Aside from ramblings here on MR, has there ever been any indication of any real interest on Queen's part toward JSS? Along comes Adam Lambert and all of a sudden there's all this talk of Queen expressing interest in him, courting him, and otherwise trying to woo him. Hello? What's going on here? :? Was this ever really JSS's gig to lose in the first place??

Personally, I think JSS should do his own thing. He is formidable in his own right, and as stated before, he cannot continue being "the replacement guy" for the rest of his career.


That's why I asked the question if anyone had read the Queen fan boards and blogs. B/c I'm sure the new singer to be hired is a hot topic and has been discussed quite a bit. JSS would be mentioned in those blogs. But are longtime Queen fans for or against Jeff?
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Postby stevew2 » Tue May 26, 2009 1:47 pm

Blueskies wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Rick wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Behshad wrote:Soto can hit every single note that mercury hit , no doubt. And in the long run a queen gig would give him a lot more exposure than his solo CDs.




You almost got away with this one Beshad...didn't catch it somehow before! Are you fucking SERIOUS??? Watch this clip than get back to me with this statement. :wink:
:lol: :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KY8Z69Oowc


I agree with Behshad. If Soto can carry the Journey catalog, he can sing anything Queen has. And I know Soto was rough at first, but after some vocal coaching, he was killing the Journey songs. In a good way.


In all due respect, I don't think JSS has the vocal register of Steve Perry, and I'm sure he doesn't claim to. I think JSS is a great singer who has the same level of passion for singing that Steve and Freddie had, but he cannot hit an F6 note with his voice like Perry could. The highest note Freddie could hit was an E6. I'm guessing that JSS would have a hard time hitting a C6, which is the note that must be hit to define a soprano singer.

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Postby Blueskies » Tue May 26, 2009 1:53 pm

stevew2 wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Rick wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Behshad wrote:Soto can hit every single note that mercury hit , no doubt. And in the long run a queen gig would give him a lot more exposure than his solo CDs.




You almost got away with this one Beshad...didn't catch it somehow before! Are you fucking SERIOUS??? Watch this clip than get back to me with this statement. :wink:
:lol: :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KY8Z69Oowc


I agree with Behshad. If Soto can carry the Journey catalog, he can sing anything Queen has. And I know Soto was rough at first, but after some vocal coaching, he was killing the Journey songs. In a good way.


In all due respect, I don't think JSS has the vocal register of Steve Perry, and I'm sure he doesn't claim to. I think JSS is a great singer who has the same level of passion for singing that Steve and Freddie had, but he cannot hit an F6 note with his voice like Perry could. The highest note Freddie could hit was an E6. I'm guessing that JSS would have a hard time hitting a C6, which is the note that must be hit to define a soprano singer.

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Postby Shadowsong » Tue May 26, 2009 2:09 pm

Voyager wrote:
Rick wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Behshad wrote:Soto can hit every single note that mercury hit , no doubt. And in the long run a queen gig would give him a lot more exposure than his solo CDs.




You almost got away with this one Beshad...didn't catch it somehow before! Are you fucking SERIOUS??? Watch this clip than get back to me with this statement. :wink:
:lol: :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KY8Z69Oowc


I agree with Behshad. If Soto can carry the Journey catalog, he can sing anything Queen has. And I know Soto was rough at first, but after some vocal coaching, he was killing the Journey songs. In a good way.


In all due respect, I don't think JSS has the vocal register of Steve Perry, and I'm sure he doesn't claim to. I think JSS is a great singer who has the same level of passion for singing that Steve and Freddie had, but he cannot hit an F6 note with his voice like Perry could. The highest note Freddie could hit was an E6. I'm guessing that JSS would have a hard time hitting a C6, which is the note that must be hit to define a soprano singer.

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C6 is not an easy note for even a female to sing with conviction...I am a female who placed 2nd soprano which is more like a mezzo soprano & I can barely get to F6.
Nothing to fret about as it's just not the range of the normal male voice.

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Postby Voyager » Tue May 26, 2009 2:11 pm

Deb wrote:
Voyager wrote:Here is a collection of high notes from different singers:

Adam Lambert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ljSa8LJvQ

Steve Perry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vJElLyOL4

Freddie Mercury: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KY8Z69Oowc

Bruce Dickinson vs. Rob Halford: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtlxsR85d9Q

Steve Perry can hit an F6, Freddie can hit an E6. Do you think Adam can hit that range?

8)


I'll take "soul" over range, anyday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDtHpo3I ... re=related


Karaoke Gokey has soul, but he can't sing Queen.

:lol: :lol:
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Postby Deb » Tue May 26, 2009 2:11 pm

yulog wrote:
Deb wrote::) Soto and May, 10 years ago........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C2MSp9nqWU



Ouch! i couldn't even get through the whole vid, maybe it was his boy band hair Image


Grrrrrr! :twisted: :lol:
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Postby Deb » Tue May 26, 2009 2:14 pm

Voyager wrote:
Deb wrote:
Voyager wrote:Here is a collection of high notes from different singers:

Adam Lambert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ljSa8LJvQ

Steve Perry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vJElLyOL4

Freddie Mercury: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KY8Z69Oowc

Bruce Dickinson vs. Rob Halford: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtlxsR85d9Q

Steve Perry can hit an F6, Freddie can hit an E6. Do you think Adam can hit that range?

8)


I'll take "soul" over range, anyday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDtHpo3I ... re=related


Karaoke Gokey has soul, but he can't sing Queen.

:lol: :lol:


This is you, isn't it?! :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVDoLU2HMjY
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Postby StoneCold » Tue May 26, 2009 2:19 pm

Jana wrote:
Jubilee wrote:I have a question, and by asking this question I mean no disrespect to JSS, but if Queen were seriously interested in JSS wouldn't they have done the deal by now? They've already had the opportunity to "audition" JSS they know him and they know his work. Aside from ramblings here on MR, has there ever been any indication of any real interest on Queen's part toward JSS? Along comes Adam Lambert and all of a sudden there's all this talk of Queen expressing interest in him, courting him, and otherwise trying to woo him. Hello? What's going on here? :? Was this ever really JSS's gig to lose in the first place??

Personally, I think JSS should do his own thing. He is formidable in his own right, and as stated before, he cannot continue being "the replacement guy" for the rest of his career.


That's why I asked the question if anyone had read the Queen fan boards and blogs. B/c I'm sure the new singer to be hired is a hot topic and has been discussed quite a bit. JSS would be mentioned in those blogs. But are longtime Queen fans for or against Jeff?


I browsed for a few pages over there and the general concesus is they don't want Lambert. No mention of JSS in the first 5 pages either. Here's the link.

http://queenforum.parlophone.co.uk/view ... a&start=75
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Postby StoneCold » Tue May 26, 2009 2:21 pm

Almost forgot, here's the graphic one poster had about the Adam idea:


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Postby Voyager » Tue May 26, 2009 2:23 pm

Deb wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Deb wrote:
Voyager wrote:Here is a collection of high notes from different singers:

Adam Lambert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ljSa8LJvQ

Steve Perry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vJElLyOL4

Freddie Mercury: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KY8Z69Oowc

Bruce Dickinson vs. Rob Halford: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtlxsR85d9Q

Steve Perry can hit an F6, Freddie can hit an E6. Do you think Adam can hit that range?

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I'll take "soul" over range, anyday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDtHpo3I ... re=related


Karaoke Gokey has soul, but he can't sing Queen.

:lol: :lol:


This is you, isn't it?! :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVDoLU2HMjY


LOL! That looks like that Chicken Little kid from a few seasons ago.

I was just kidding about Gokey. He actually might make a good singer for Queen. His upper range is really smooth, check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6wiYAJjaGo

:lol: :lol:
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Postby Deb » Tue May 26, 2009 2:24 pm

StoneCold wrote:Almost forgot, here's the graphic one poster had about the Adam idea:


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Postby Zedul » Tue May 26, 2009 2:27 pm

Even comparing JSS and Adam Lambert is a joke - JSS is a legit frontman and seasoned rock performer.

This Lambert kid was just a runner up in a televised karaoke contest - he's a rock star in the same way that the Harlem Globetrotters were a championship basketball team. Meaning - "it was just a show folks"
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Postby yulog » Tue May 26, 2009 2:42 pm

Zedul wrote:Even comparing JSS and Adam Lambert is a joke - JSS is a legit frontman and seasoned rock performer.

This Lambert kid was just a runner up in a televised karaoke contest - he's a rock star in the same way that the Harlem Globetrotters were a championship basketball team. Meaning - "it was just a show folks"


I don't know , next year when Adam outsells JSS's career of cds on his first cd ,you will have to say "Comparing Adam lambert to JSS(who?) is a joke-Adam is a multi platinum selling superstar and that other guy got let go from that girl lovin 70/80's band ..Journey Image
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Postby Voyager » Tue May 26, 2009 2:45 pm

Zedul wrote:Even comparing JSS and Adam Lambert is a joke - JSS is a legit frontman and seasoned rock performer.


I don't see that as a reason not to compare them, but I do agree that there is no comparison between the two. I've seen them both, and I'd rather watch/hear Adam perform.

Bob Dylan is a seasoned rock performer too, but Adam smokes him IMO.

To each his own. No disrespect to JSS, but I think Adam is the better singer.

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Zedul wrote:Even comparing JSS and Adam Lambert is a joke - JSS is a legit frontman and seasoned rock performer.

This Lambert kid was just a runner up in a televised karaoke contest - he's a rock star in the same way that the Harlem Globetrotters were a championship basketball team. Meaning - "it was just a show folks"


I don't know , next year when Adam outsells JSS's career of cds on his first cd ,you will have to say "Comparing Adam lambert to JSS(who?) is a joke-Adam is a multi platinum selling superstar and that other guy got let go from that girl lovin 70/80's band ..Journey Image


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Postby YoungJRNY » Tue May 26, 2009 9:17 pm

yulog wrote:
Zedul wrote:Even comparing JSS and Adam Lambert is a joke - JSS is a legit frontman and seasoned rock performer.

This Lambert kid was just a runner up in a televised karaoke contest - he's a rock star in the same way that the Harlem Globetrotters were a championship basketball team. Meaning - "it was just a show folks"


I don't know , next year when Adam outsells JSS's career of cds on his first cd ,you will have to say "Comparing Adam lambert to JSS(who?) is a joke-Adam is a multi platinum selling superstar and that other guy got let go from that girl lovin 70/80's band ..Journey Image


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Postby Luvsaugeri » Tue May 26, 2009 9:30 pm

squirt1 wrote:Kiss offered Adam a chance to tour. Queen did also. I hope he goes with Queen and sees the world and huge success after the AI tour. Yes, Adam said he is going.


Can you site the source of your information for this statement?

I'm not buying this. Why would KISS offer Adam a chance to tour? Do you mean singing WITH them? Or opening for them?

I don't really see why Adam would want to join Queen either. Why not do his own thing rather than join an aging rock band? Doesn't seem like a good fit to me.

I would LOVE to see George Michael singing with Queen. But I'm not sure that he would be interested in that more than a cameo here or there.
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Postby CatEyes » Tue May 26, 2009 10:34 pm

My humble opinion is that JSS would be a good match for Queen at this time.

Adam Lanbert is way too young - and he needs to focus on developing his own identiy first.

JSS, while I was not a fan of his with Journey, has talent and definately has developed himself.

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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue May 26, 2009 11:57 pm

"Rumors" is the key word here. Did anyone (meaning the people who are floating these stupid stories, not you guys) actually READ what Brian May said? He said he would like to talk to Adam, and he would like to "work with him". That does not mean "we want him to be our singer". Working with the guy could encompass any number of projects from a one-off show to a non-Queen project. Unless I missed a quote somewhere, but that is the one I keep hearing over and over.

And IF they are/were considering Adam Lambert to front Queen... omg, bad idea. :evil:
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Postby MrsPerry » Wed May 27, 2009 12:11 am

i am prolly gonna get rocks thrown at me for this one, but they should have hung it up, when Freddie ( may he rest in peace) passed.
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Re: Adam's Competition for the Queen gig? JSS...

Postby Tito » Wed May 27, 2009 12:43 am

Barb wrote:http://www.tampabay.com/features/music/article1004299.ece

Rumors are swirling around the Web that American Idol runnerup Adam Lambert could be Queen's top pick as its next lead singer.

"(Drummer Roger Taylor) and I are definitely hoping to have a meaningful conversation with him at some point," Queen guitarist Brian May told Rolling Stone late last week amid rumors that Lambert had already been offered the job. "It's not like we, as Queen, would rush into coalescing with another singer just like that. It isn't that easy. But I'd certainly like to work with Adam. That is one amazing instrument he has there."

Queen ruled the rock world in the '70s and '80s with anthems such as We Will Rock You, Bohemian Rhapsody and Another One Bites the Dust. But the band has relied on guest vocalists since the death of frontman Freddie Mercury in 1991 from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.

The remaining members just jettisoned singer Paul Rodgers (amicably, both sides insist) on May 12, making Lambert's performance with Queen during Idol's Season 8 finale an informal tryout of sorts.

(And of course, by mysteriously losing to Ned Flanders-esque Kris Allen, Lambert is free to pursue his own career now.)

On the positive side, May and Taylor would inherit a young singer who could give the band a much-needed dose of energy. And Lambert would bring a whole new generation of fans with him. However, trying to replace the legendary Mercury seems like a bad way to start a promising career.

If Lambert does turn down a presumed offer, the smart money is that Queen will take a long, serious look at Jeff Scott Soto, the former Journey singer who was dumped by the band before it hired Arnel Pineda. Soto doesn't have the same type of vocal chops as Lambert or Mercury, but he's a fixture with the band's fans after his regular performances at Queen conventions around the world.

Want one more dark horse? George Michael. The Wham! frontman turned superstar soloist dazzled fans while playing alongside Queen during a 1992 tribute concert for Mercury following his death.


If those are the only two choices, go with Adam Lambert. You'll get more publicity. If they go with Soto, 99.9% of the people will say, "Who?"
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