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Postby Gideon » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:44 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLOFFkFhQqU

^ Yes, I finally found it. "Higher Place" as performed by Journey, with Deen on vocals, in March during their tour in Japan. I'm very impressed with it. It's revamped, with different keyboards and a better guitar. Much more modern. (Deen's one tradeoff is that you can't hear him as well, and particularly towards the end, this problem is more pronounced).

Very good, though.
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:56 am

I do love this song
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Postby stevew2 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:59 am

Good find,I always liked that song, in fact the whole CD I still like this version the best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBpxriDg7pA
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Postby Gideon » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:59 am

So do I.

I bought another copy of Arrival yesterday for five bucks at Wal-Mart. Augeri was a fine vocalist. The problem was that during the songs (and concerts), he would try to do some of the ad-lib, extended vocal acrobatics that Perry and Arnel indulge in. He was a capable, smooth tenor, with a moderately strong voice. But he lacked the ability to do the truly impressive, if unnecessary, extended notes and so on.

His primary job as a vocalist was to interpret the lyrics. He did that unbelievably well. But in hindsight, I don't think he recognized his limitations as well as he should have.

I noticed he did similar things during the Firefest videos.
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Postby Since 78 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:00 am

Just makes me miss SA :(
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Postby stevew2 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:31 am

Since 78 wrote:Just makes me miss SA :(
Same here,
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Postby stevew2 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:34 am

Gideon wrote:So do I.

I bought another copy of Arrival yesterday for five bucks at Wal-Mart. Augeri was a fine vocalist. The problem was that during the songs (and concerts), he would try to do some of the ad-lib, extended vocal acrobatics that Perry and Arnel indulge in. He was a capable, smooth tenor, with a moderately strong voice. But he lacked the ability to do the truly impressive, if unnecessary, extended notes and so on.

His primary job as a vocalist was to interpret the lyrics. He did that unbelievably well. But in hindsight, I don't think he recognized his limitations as well as he should have.

I noticed he did similar things during the Firefest videos.
He pushed his voice way to much for to long.I remember some crackin when i saw him in 2002 but,a year later he was fine.He kept Journey going,I wouldnt have been a fan otherwise
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Re: Journey "Higher Place" 3/09/2009

Postby YoungJRNY » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:47 am

Gideon wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLOFFkFhQqU

^ Yes, I finally found it. "Higher Place" as performed by Journey, with Deen on vocals, in March during their tour in Japan. I'm very impressed with it. It's revamped, with different keyboards and a better guitar. Much more modern. (Deen's one tradeoff is that you can't hear him as well, and particularly towards the end, this problem is more pronounced).

Very good, though.


Great, great, great, great find, GID! One of my fav Journey songs. Loved every bit of it. Thanks for the find. 8)
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Postby DrFU » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:38 am

Since 78 wrote:Just makes me miss SA :(


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Postby Saint John » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:40 am

stevew2 wrote:He kept Journey going,I wouldnt have been a fan otherwise


I bet Jonathan Cain is simply ecstatic. :lol:
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Postby portland » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:46 am

stevew2 wrote:
Gideon wrote:So do I.

I bought another copy of Arrival yesterday for five bucks at Wal-Mart. Augeri was a fine vocalist. The problem was that during the songs (and concerts), he would try to do some of the ad-lib, extended vocal acrobatics that Perry and Arnel indulge in. He was a capable, smooth tenor, with a moderately strong voice. But he lacked the ability to do the truly impressive, if unnecessary, extended notes and so on.

His primary job as a vocalist was to interpret the lyrics. He did that unbelievably well. But in hindsight, I don't think he recognized his limitations as well as he should have.

I noticed he did similar things during the Firefest videos.
He pushed his voice way to much for to long.I remember some crackin when i saw him in 2002 but,a year later he was fine.He kept Journey going,I wouldnt have been a fan otherwise






This is my favorite song off Arrival - both versions are great - Thanks Gid!~
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Postby roycap » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:53 am

One of Journey's best songs - ever!
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Postby Deb » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:25 am

stevew2 wrote:Good find,I always liked that song, in fact the whole CD I still like this version the best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBpxriDg7pA


Me too. Definitely my fave post-Perry Journey song. Deen does a great job on it. Bought the Arrival dvd on a whim and glad I did. That's a great song and La Raza Del Sol live were worth the price right there. :) And that's when I first noticed Deen, he's just so friggin fun to watch on that dvd......just having a grand old time back there, smilin' and bopping around. :lol:
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Postby FishinMagician » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:57 am

oh no its tuned down lol
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Postby Aaron » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:13 am

I agree, Steve did an admiral job and was a good dude to boot. That song is his, bottom line. Additionally, the clip shows how it should sound in it's original key.


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Since 78 wrote:Just makes me miss SA :(
Same here,
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:30 am

Deen's vocals were always prominent on the Arrival version.
Augeri and Deen would harmonize during the bridge.
I could be wrong, but from 3:11-3:45 it sounds like Deen's voice is layered with his own Arrival background vocal.
In other words, now on lead, he is harmonizing with himself.
Either way, it's probably the best HP boot I've ever heard.
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Postby yulog » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:55 am

It sounds like Augeri is in the mix on this, or maybe i would just like to hear him sing it again. :lol:
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Postby Maui Tom » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:15 pm

yulog wrote:It sounds like Augeri is in the mix on this, or maybe i would just like to hear him sing it again. :lol:


I have a real good SA version from Osaka/04....

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Re: Journey "Higher Place" 3/09/2009

Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:33 pm

Gideon wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLOFFkFhQqU

^ Yes, I finally found it. "Higher Place" as performed by Journey, with Deen on vocals, in March during their tour in Japan. I'm very impressed with it. It's revamped, with different keyboards and a better guitar. Much more modern. (Deen's one tradeoff is that you can't hear him as well, and particularly towards the end, this problem is more pronounced).

Very good, though.


simply outstanding.

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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:37 pm

Gideon wrote:
I noticed he did similar things during the Firefest videos.


I call bullschutt. you weren't there. he was resetting his guitar during the first 2 songs because one of the stage hands thought he was helping and "adjusted it for him". kinda freaked SA out and it took awhile to get back in the swing. read Andrew's interview.

examples please. :? here, I'll help. see mine at youtube, momflute :P
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Postby G.I.Jim » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:40 pm

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
Gideon wrote:
I noticed he did similar things during the Firefest videos.


I call bullschutt. you weren't there. he was resetting his guitar during the first 2 songs because one of the stage hands thought he was helping and "adjusted it for him". kinda freaked SA out and it took awhile to get back in the swing. read Andrew's interview.

examples please. :? here, I'll help. see mine at youtube, yourmomplaystheskinflute :P


Damn Deb...you're taking this a little too seriously don't you think? :lol: :twisted:
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Postby Gideon » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:45 pm

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:I call bullschutt. you weren't there.


Easy, tiger. "I noticed he did the same thing during the Firefest videos." I never claimed to be there. Thankfully, God has blessed us with the mighty Youtube, where we can see and hear performances on the internet. I heard him hit painful notes during the beginning of "Wild on the Run" and I refer you to the entirety of "Chain of Love."
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Postby Saint John » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:55 pm

This version of Higher Place once again showcases Deen's inability to project what is a pretty darn great voice.
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Postby Gideon » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:59 pm

Saint John wrote:This version of Higher Place once again showcases Deen's inability to project what is a pretty darn great voice.


That's about right. He's got a phenomenal high register, unimaginable breath control (easily on par with Arnel or Perry on their best days), and vibrato par excellence. But no power behind his voice. Very raspy and thin.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:03 pm

Gideon wrote:
Saint John wrote:This version of Higher Place once again showcases Deen's inability to project what is a pretty darn great voice.


That's about right. He's got a phenomenal high register, unimaginable breath control (easily on par with Arnel or Perry on their best days), and vibrato par excellence. But no power behind his voice. Very raspy and thin.


I think it's a blessing in disguise. It makes him an ideal harmonizer and background vocalist. Perhaps one of the finest wingmen in the business.
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Postby Gideon » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:07 pm

Saint John wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Saint John wrote:This version of Higher Place once again showcases Deen's inability to project what is a pretty darn great voice.


That's about right. He's got a phenomenal high register, unimaginable breath control (easily on par with Arnel or Perry on their best days), and vibrato par excellence. But no power behind his voice. Very raspy and thin.


I think it's a blessing in disguise. It makes him an ideal harmonizer and background vocalist. Perhaps one of the finest wingmen in the business.


Yeah. I like how he's not like every other modern artist out there. The ones who want to do everything; act, sing, play guitar, drums, keyboard, rather than gain noteriety for one. That's also something I respect about Neal.
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:53 pm

Gideon wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:I call bullschutt. you weren't there.


Easy, tiger. "I noticed he did the same thing during the Firefest videos." I never claimed to be there. Thankfully, God has blessed us with the mighty Youtube, where we can see and hear performances on the internet. I heard him hit painful notes during the beginning of "Wild on the Run" and I refer you to the entirety of "Chain of Love."


bullschutt. you weren't there, my point exactly. I told you his equipment was messed up. youtube is nearly always lousy quality--mine are shot with a $200 point and shoot and I suspect most of the others are too. how can you compare that to actually being there? Can't--no way-drop it.

he was great and he most certainly CAN vocalise.

(sorry- you know how I get when people judge, compare and otherwise run others down. unnecessary always. i have my soap box-I'm on it-- deal with it.) breathe deb...
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Postby Deb » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:01 pm

Saint John wrote:I think it's a blessing in disguise. It makes him an ideal harmonizer and background vocalist. Perhaps one of the finest wingmen in the business.


On first read, I thought you said "Perhaps one of the finest women in the business." :shock: :lol:
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Postby Gideon » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:01 pm

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
Gideon wrote:
(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:I call bullschutt. you weren't there.


Easy, tiger. "I noticed he did the same thing during the Firefest videos." I never claimed to be there. Thankfully, God has blessed us with the mighty Youtube, where we can see and hear performances on the internet. I heard him hit painful notes during the beginning of "Wild on the Run" and I refer you to the entirety of "Chain of Love."


bullschutt. you weren't there, my point exactly. I told you his equipment was messed up. youtube is nearly always lousy quality--mine are shot with a $200 point and shoot and I suspect most of the others are too. how can you compare that to actually being there? Can't--no way-drop it.

he was great and he most certainly CAN vocalise.

(sorry- you know how I get when people judge, compare and otherwise run others down. unnecessary always. i have my soap box-I'm on it-- deal with it.) breathe deb...


I wasn't running anyone down and I never claimed to be there.

You're forty plus years old. A grown adult. How about you act like it?

Edit: And no one said he couldn't vocalize. You didn't bother to read the damn post.
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:27 pm

Gideon wrote:[
I wasn't running anyone down and I never claimed to be there.

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uh yea ya did.

But in hindsight, I don't think he recognized his limitations as well as he should have.

you're UNDER 40-why don't you quit acting like a know it all, entitled to judge others talents and point out supposed flaws.

stand down. there is no winning against a wiggler. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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