Is Deen a co-lead singer for the band?

[Deb]

Does anyone know all the songs Deen sang when Augeri's voice went downhill?

I know that he's always done Mother, Father.

I have a boot that Deen sang 4 oldies on. Back when they were doing the long shows, I think it is Konocti? Patiently, La Do Da, Where Were You and one other one, can't remember it off the top of my head.

You hear that 78? Some pre-Escape love right there.

Yep!

Deb, can you post it Please? Please?

Sure. I just checked and the other one is Something To Hide. Show is from 05 - Julyish. Not sure what is up with SA but he sounds like he's got laryngitis or something for the first few songs, voice keeps cracking, almost looks like it hurts. Especially on Feeling That Way singing with Jon. But he gets better as the show progresses.

Patiently - Deen C http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyhYD9KJmiU

[Saint John]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

[Deb]

Bite me.

[Saint John]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

Bite me.

lol...I just have no use for the pre-Escape Perry vocals. You can keep the Mariah Carey Journey years. Total shit vocally. And thank God Jon Cain came into the picture to redirect that awful songwriting.

[stevew2]

I think Deen is definitely the MVP of the band. Co -lead singer, not really. Of course one wouldnt necessarily say that Arnel is leading the band out there on stage, so perhaps hes the singer but not the lead singer.

Anyway my point is it all seems pretty gray - but from the sounds of things Arnel is sounding pretty darn good on what hes been singing and I know that Deen sends shivers down my spine when he sings MOther, Father. Roles notwithstanding, what seems to be going on at the moment is working, so keep it up

I think as band leaders go, on the stage Cain seems to be the conducting everything. Off stage, it's apparently Neal's baby, through and through.

i need to take a shit

[Deb]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

Bite me.

lol...I just have no use for the pre-Escape Perry vocals. You can keep the Mariah Carey Journey years. Total shit vocally. And thank God Jon Cain came into the picture to redirect that awful songwriting.

Well I'll agree with you on the early vocals, much prefer the frontiers and forward, more raw richer vocals. But how on earth can you say it's shit vocally? Live, Perry absolutely slays that song......not one of my favorite Journey songs, but he is vocally stunning here...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NA0exiQOnk

[Saint John]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

Bite me.

lol...I just have no use for the pre-Escape Perry vocals. You can keep the Mariah Carey Journey years. Total shit vocally. And thank God Jon Cain came into the picture to redirect that awful songwriting.

Well I'll agree with you on the early vocals, much prefer the frontiers and forward, more raw richer vocals. But how on earth can you say it's shit vocally? Live, Perry absolutely slays that song......not one of my favorite Journey songs, but he is vocally stunning here...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NA0exiQOnk

Oh, don't get me wrong, Deb, I know what he's doing is fantastic from a vocalist's standpoint. It's just not my cup of tea. Escape through ROR is my ballgame.

[SP Fan in Oregon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NA0exiQOnk


OMG....... Fantastic. Never saw that video before. Thank you for posting it Deb.
I can go to sleep now. I got my fix for the day.

[portland]

Sorry - How many songs did Smith sing for Perry?

The same amount as Perry sang on the TBF tour.

POW !!

Yeah I was actually talking about the 600 some odd dates on tours that exisited....you know reality, it's a hard place to stay

[stevew2]

I voted yes. And I think it's a good thing. Perry had several voices as his voice aged and expecting Arnel to capture the later years is a tall order. Considering Deen has that same gritty sound as Perry due to years of wear and tear and the aging process, why not let him sing the songs that he can sound closer than Arnel on. It's also refreshing that there seems to be no egos in the band.

You must be high Dan,you know Frigas got an ego

[portland]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

Bite me.

lol...I just have no use for the pre-Escape Perry vocals. You can keep the Mariah Carey Journey years. Total shit vocally. And thank God Jon Cain came into the picture to redirect that awful songwriting.

Well I'll agree with you on the early vocals, much prefer the frontiers and forward, more raw richer vocals. But how on earth can you say it's shit vocally? Live, Perry absolutely slays that song......not one of my favorite Journey songs, but he is vocally stunning here...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NA0exiQOnk

Agreed Deb....it's a beautiful song and he delivers!

[bluejeangirl76]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

Bite me.

lol...I just have no use for the pre-Escape Perry vocals. You can keep the Mariah Carey Journey years. Total shit vocally. And thank God Jon Cain came into the picture to redirect that awful songwriting.

*rubs eyes*

Did I seriously just read that? Jon Cain's writing reads like horrible sappy wedding poetry and it's probably the main reason I don't like Revelation. The one song I do like on there, surprise!... he had help on the lyrics.

[stevew2]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

Bite me.

lol...I just have no use for the pre-Escape Perry vocals. You can keep the Mariah Carey Journey years. Total shit vocally. And thank God Jon Cain came into the picture to redirect that awful songwriting.

*rubs eyes*

Did I seriously just read that? Jon Cain's writing reads like horrible sappy wedding poetry and it's probably the main reason I don't like Revelation. The one song I do like on there, surprise!... he had help on the lyrics.

Something aint right , "faded wedding photographs??that is fuckin gay

[Saint John]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

Bite me.

lol...I just have no use for the pre-Escape Perry vocals. You can keep the Mariah Carey Journey years. Total shit vocally. And thank God Jon Cain came into the picture to redirect that awful songwriting.

*rubs eyes*

Did I seriously just read that? Jon Cain's writing reads like horrible sappy wedding poetry and it's probably the main reason I don't like Revelation. The one song I do like on there, surprise!... he had help on the lyrics.

How many pre-Cain songs are on greatest hits? There were three huge steps in the climb Journey took. The first was Neal forming the band, the second was the addition of Steve Perry and the third was the addition of Jon Cain. He brought their 2 biggest ballads (OA and Faithfully) and was the chief choreographer to the most downloaded song in history (DSB). And remember, the sequencing in DSB has been stolen over and over and over. Arguably, half of the music world owes Jon Cain royalties.

[Don]

Time for me to discredit the band again but this misinterpretation has to be clarified. Don't Stop Believin' is the #1 downloaded catalog track (songs released before the digital age).

Overall, it's the 42nd most downloaded song of all time

All- Time

1 LOW FLO RIDA FEATURING T-PAIN 4,865,695
2 APOLOGIZE TIMBALAND 4,212,880
3 CRANK THAT(SOULJA BOY) SOULJA BOY 4,141,486
4 I'M YOURS JASON MRAZ 3,860,773
5 JUST DANCE LADY GAGA FEATURING COLBY O'DONNIS 3,740,040
6 BLEEDING LOVE LEONA LEWIS 3,665,987
7 VIVA LA VIDA COLDPLAY 3,664,239
8 STRONGER KANYE WEST 3,551,289
9 HOT N COLD KATY PERRY 3,517,135
10 HEY THERE DELILAH PLAIN WHITE T'S 3,438,337

11 LOLLIPOP LIL WAYNE 3,433,636
12 I KISSED A GIRL KATY PERRY 3,389,750
13 DISTURBIA RIHANNA 3,364,494
14 LOVE STORY TAYLOR SWIFT 3,284,841
15 WHATEVER YOU LIKE T.I. 3,279,131
16 LIVE YOUR LIFE T.I. FEATURING RIHANNA 3,273,095
17 SO WHAT PINK 3,253,527
18 UMBRELLA RIHANNA FEATURING JAY-Z 3,216,934
19 BIG GRLS DON'T CRY FERGIE 3,148,000
20 LET IT ROCK KEVIN RUDOLF FEATURING LIL' WAYNE 3,097,451

21 HOW TO SAVE A LIFE THE FRAY 3,071,808
22 SEXYBACK JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE 3,037,000
23 NO ONE ALICIA KEYS 3,000,000
24 ROCKSTAR NICKELBACK 2,975,168
25 LOVE SONG SARA BAREILLES 2,876,052
26 BUBBLY COLBIE CAILLAT 2,847,858
27 NO AIR JORDIN SPARKS 2,830,711
28 HEARTLESS KANYE WEST 2,811,069
29 PAPER PLANES M.I.A. 2,797,554
30 RIGHT ROUND FLO RIDA 2,781,348

31 BAD DAY DANIEL POWTER 2,756,106
32 SMACK THAT AKON FEATURING EMINEM 2,742,000
33 BEFORE HE CHEATS CARRIE UNDERWOOD 2,682,246
34 GIRLFRIEND AVRIL LAVIGNE 2,681,810
35 DON'T STOP THE MUSIC RIHANNA 2,675,331
36 GIVES YOU HELL ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS 2,632,852
37 WOMANIZER BRITNEY SPEARS 2,623,368
38 LOVE LOCKDOWN KANYE WEST 2,613,671
39 SINGLE LADIES(PUT A RING ON IT) BEYONCE 2,589,628
40 IRREPLACABLE BEYONCE 2,588,000

41 THE WAY I ARE TIMBALAND 2,562,000
42 DON'T STOP BELIEVIN' JOURNEY 2,541,157
43 POCKETFUL OF SUNSHINE NATASHA BEDINGFIELD 2,491,745
44 4 MINUTES MADONNA 2,471,692
45 PARALYZER FINGER ELEVEN 2,457,058
46 THE SWEET ESCAPE GWEN STEFANI FEATURING AKON 2,447,466
47 KISS KISS CHRIS BROWN 2,428,910
48 FERGALICIOUS FERGIE 2,427,377
49 CRAZY GNARLS BARKLEY 2,419,022
50 GLAMOROUS FERGIE 2,396,770

[Saint John]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

[portland]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

This is probably a dumb question, but I am of the belief that there are no dumb questions so here it goes....


Are both versions there to download? SP and AP? I don't use Itunes so I don't know....just did not know if fans get a choice?

[Saint John]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

This is probably a dumb question, but I am of the belief that there are no dumb questions so here it goes....


Are both versions there to download? SP and AP? I don't use Itunes so I don't know....just did not know if fans get a choice?

No idea. I have never downloaded one song from itunes and don't even own an ipod/MP3 player.

[Don]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

It's a fucking fantastic song and the only tune I actually know above it on the list it is Bleeding Heart by Leona Lewis. Of course, the rest of the stuff wil fall by the wayside as DSB stays evergreen.
I saw it used as one of many points of debate with Sycophant and decided the facts needed to be put out so no one has it thrown in their face later.

[Don]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

This is probably a dumb question, but I am of the belief that there are no dumb questions so here it goes....


Are both versions there to download? SP and AP? I don't use Itunes so I don't know....just did not know if fans get a choice?

As far as I can tell, you can only download the retreads from Wal-Mart as they are exclusive to that store. Or you could always torrent it if copyright isn't an issue for you.

[Saint John]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

It's a fucking fantastic song and the only tune I actually know above it on the list it is Bleeding Heart by Leona Lewis. Of course, the rest of the stuff wil fall by the wayside as DSB stays evergreen.
I saw it used as one of many points of debate with Sycophant and decided the facts needed to be put out so no one has it thrown in their face later.

Cruising through Santa Monica last night at around 9 pm and I hear on the radio "Hello, this is Steve Perry and you're listening to the Uncle Joe Benson show." Then DSB came on. Never get tired of that song.

[bluejeangirl76]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

Bite me.

lol...I just have no use for the pre-Escape Perry vocals. You can keep the Mariah Carey Journey years. Total shit vocally. And thank God Jon Cain came into the picture to redirect that awful songwriting.

*rubs eyes*

Did I seriously just read that? Jon Cain's writing reads like horrible sappy wedding poetry and it's probably the main reason I don't like Revelation. The one song I do like on there, surprise!... he had help on the lyrics.

How many pre-Cain songs are on greatest hits?

FOUR including their first top 20 hit. They had already started their epic climb with Evolution and esp. Departure before Cain showed up. He doesn't get all the credit.

[portland]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

This is probably a dumb question, but I am of the belief that there are no dumb questions so here it goes....


Are both versions there to download? SP and AP? I don't use Itunes so I don't know....just did not know if fans get a choice?

As far as I can tell, you can only download the retreads from Wal-Mart as they are exclusive to that store. Or you could always torrent it if copyright isn't an issue for you.

So then the Walmart down loads would not be in the count....I mean the fans of AP would want that version if they had the choice...right?!

[Don]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

It's a fucking fantastic song and the only tune I actually know above it on the list it is Bleeding Heart by Leona Lewis. Of course, the rest of the stuff wil fall by the wayside as DSB stays evergreen.
I saw it used as one of many points of debate with Sycophant and decided the facts needed to be put out so no one has it thrown in their face later.

Cruising through Santa Monica last night at around 9 pm and I hear on the radio "Hello, this is Steve Perry and you're listening to the Uncle Joe Benson show." Then DSB came on. Never get tired of that song.

Uncle Joe and Steve Perry, what a SoCal Moment. The only song I wouldn't mind never hearing again is Open Arms. The studio version of LTS comes in a very strong second.

[Saint John]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

It's a fucking fantastic song and the only tune I actually know above it on the list it is Bleeding Heart by Leona Lewis. Of course, the rest of the stuff wil fall by the wayside as DSB stays evergreen.
I saw it used as one of many points of debate with Sycophant and decided the facts needed to be put out so no one has it thrown in their face later.

Cruising through Santa Monica last night at around 9 pm and I hear on the radio "Hello, this is Steve Perry and you're listening to the Uncle Joe Benson show." Then DSB came on. Never get tired of that song.

Uncle Joe and Steve Perry, what a SoCal Moment. The only song I wouldn't mind never hearing again is Open Arms. The studio version of LTS comes in a very strong second.

LTS and Lights are just terrible songs. They're what gave Journey the poser label. Well, that, and Steve Perry wearing blouses.

[stevew2]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

It's a fucking fantastic song and the only tune I actually know above it on the list it is Bleeding Heart by Leona Lewis. Of course, the rest of the stuff wil fall by the wayside as DSB stays evergreen.
I saw it used as one of many points of debate with Sycophant and decided the facts needed to be put out so no one has it thrown in their face later.

Cruising through Santa Monica last night at around 9 pm and I hear on the radio "Hello, this is Steve Perry and you're listening to the Uncle Joe Benson show." Then DSB came on. Never get tired of that song.

Uncle Joe and Steve Perry, what a SoCal Moment. The only song I wouldn't mind never hearing again is Open Arms. The studio version of LTS comes in a very strong second.

LTS and Lights are just terrible songs. They're what gave Journey the poser label. Well, that, and Steve Perry wearing blouses.

Check out Rollies blouse on GB Avatar. least the fucker had some hair on his chest

[Don]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

It's a fucking fantastic song and the only tune I actually know above it on the list it is Bleeding Heart by Leona Lewis. Of course, the rest of the stuff wil fall by the wayside as DSB stays evergreen.
I saw it used as one of many points of debate with Sycophant and decided the facts needed to be put out so no one has it thrown in their face later.

Cruising through Santa Monica last night at around 9 pm and I hear on the radio "Hello, this is Steve Perry and you're listening to the Uncle Joe Benson show." Then DSB came on. Never get tired of that song.

Uncle Joe and Steve Perry, what a SoCal Moment. The only song I wouldn't mind never hearing again is Open Arms. The studio version of LTS comes in a very strong second.

LTS and Lights are just terrible songs. They're what gave Journey the poser label. Well, that, and Steve Perry wearing blouses.

Check out Rollies blouse on GB Avatar. least the fucker had some hair on his chest

Steve is covering his boobs, I just realized that.

[Saint John]

The Neal Schon Chia Pet would have been a big seller in the late 70's.

[stevew2]

Neal and Smitty are both sporting major crab traps {as GB calls them}

[Don]

Smitty looks like a Euro violinist who's just spotted a box of Krispy Kreme behind the camera.