Is Deen a co-lead singer for the band?

[Since 78]

Does anyone know all the songs Deen sang when Augeri's voice went downhill?

I know that he's always done Mother, Father.

I have a boot that Deen sang 4 oldies on. Back when they were doing the long shows, I think it is Konocti? Patiently, La Do Da, Where Were You and one other one, can't remember it off the top of my head.

You hear that 78? Some pre-Escape love right there.

Yep!

Deb, can you post it Please? Please?

Sure. I just checked and the other one is Something To Hide. Show is from 05 - Julyish. Not sure what is up with SA but he sounds like he's got laryngitis or something for the first few songs, voice keeps cracking, almost looks like it hurts. Especially on Feeling That Way singing with Jon. But he gets better as the show progresses.

Patiently - Deen C http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyhYD9KJmiU

Thanks! Deb, nice job by Deen. My favorite Journey song

[Since 78]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

Bite me.

lol...I just have no use for the pre-Escape Perry vocals. You can keep the Mariah Carey Journey years. Total shit vocally. And thank God Jon Cain came into the picture to redirect that awful songwriting.

And turned them into a pop band. Cain should have stayed with the Babys.

[Saint John]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

Bite me.

lol...I just have no use for the pre-Escape Perry vocals. You can keep the Mariah Carey Journey years. Total shit vocally. And thank God Jon Cain came into the picture to redirect that awful songwriting.

And turned them into a pop band. Cain should have stayed with the Babys.

Yeah...Patiently, Winds Of March, Good Morning Girl, Lights and LTS are real fucking rockers. Get real, dude. Edge Of The Blade, Separate Ways, Mother, Father, Escape, Ask The Lonely and others beat the shit out of the dog whistle days.

[stevew2]

Smitty looks like a Euro violinist who's just spotted a box of Krispy Kreme behind the camera.

lol notice you cant spot that stained grill

[Red13JoePa]

The Frontiers Perry is for me the most powerful, resonant and stunning. Listen to the muscle on the vox of SW, Liberty*(best bet), Ask The Lonely and After The Fall and you actually realize why there are loons in the world.
Hits some sick notes on ROR too.

[bluejeangirl76]

The Frontiers Perry is for me the most powerful, resonant and stunning. Listen to the muscle on the vox of SW, Liberty, and After The Fall and you actually realize why there are loons in the world.

Yeaaahhhh that's the stuff.

[G.I.Jim]

The Frontiers Perry is for me the most powerful, resonant and stunning. Listen to the muscle on the vox of SW, Liberty, and After The Fall and you actually realize why there are loons in the world.

Yeaaahhhh that's the stuff.

That's it...I take back my take back of you being old!

[Since 78]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

Bite me.

lol...I just have no use for the pre-Escape Perry vocals. You can keep the Mariah Carey Journey years. Total shit vocally. And thank God Jon Cain came into the picture to redirect that awful songwriting.

And turned them into a pop band. Cain should have stayed with the Babys.

Yeah...Patiently, Winds Of March, Good Morning Girl, Lights and LTS are real fucking rockers. Get real, dude. Edge Of The Blade, Separate Ways, Mother, Father, Escape, Ask The Lonely and others beat the shit out of the dog whistle days.

I don't consider those songs Rock, more like ballads and better than Open Arms and Faithfully although I like those songs.

All the songs you listed are great and I would include Chain Reaction, but still more pop rock to me.

What I'm referring to are songs like La Do Da, Lady Luck, Lovin you is easy, City of the Angels, Where Were You,
Line of Fire, Homemade Love etc..

[portland]

The Frontiers Perry is for me the most powerful, resonant and stunning. Listen to the muscle on the vox of SW, Liberty, and After The Fall and you actually realize why there are loons in the world.

Yeaaahhhh that's the stuff.

That's it...I take back my take back of you being old!

How do hell does anyone listen to this and then listen to Revelation and say it's all good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNonRyV

[Saint John]

The Frontiers Perry is for me the most powerful, resonant and stunning. Listen to the muscle on the vox of SW, Liberty*(best bet), Ask The Lonely and After The Fall and you actually realize why there are loons in the world.
Hits some sick notes on ROR too.

Escape, Frontiers and ROR Perry is the greatest voice(s) that ever lived. The voice used on After The Fall and Separate Ways is the pinnacle of his vocals. And listen to him sing Still They Ride around that time opposed to Escape. His voice is dirtier and, man, does it sound fucking great.

[portland]

The Frontiers Perry is for me the most powerful, resonant and stunning. Listen to the muscle on the vox of SW, Liberty*(best bet), Ask The Lonely and After The Fall and you actually realize why there are loons in the world.
Hits some sick notes on ROR too.

Escape, Frontiers and ROR Perry is the greatest voice(s) that ever lived. The voice used on After The Fall and Separate Ways is the pinnacle of his vocals. And listen to him sing Still They Ride around that time opposed to Escape. His voice is dirtier and, man, does it sound fucking great.

AMEN to that

[Don]

It's a shame that MTV didn't promote Still They Ride that much. I saw the video only a few times and that was that. I think it was from the first night in Houston. it was on for a week, then it disappeared.

[Deb]

The Frontiers Perry is for me the most powerful, resonant and stunning. Listen to the muscle on the vox of SW, Liberty*(best bet), Ask The Lonely and After The Fall and you actually realize why there are loons in the world.
Hits some sick notes on ROR too.

Escape, Frontiers and ROR Perry is the greatest voice(s) that ever lived. The voice used on After The Fall and Separate Ways is the pinnacle of his vocals. And listen to him sing Still They Ride around that time opposed to Escape. His voice is dirtier and, man, does it sound fucking great.

Agree with every single word of both these posts. I like a little texture and grit to my favorite vocals.

Gbot, what???? There was actually a video/clip for Still They Ride? An escape (not frontiers) era video? My all-time fave Journey song, gawd I would love to see that!

[Don]

The Frontiers Perry is for me the most powerful, resonant and stunning. Listen to the muscle on the vox of SW, Liberty*(best bet), Ask The Lonely and After The Fall and you actually realize why there are loons in the world.
Hits some sick notes on ROR too.

Escape, Frontiers and ROR Perry is the greatest voice(s) that ever lived. The voice used on After The Fall and Separate Ways is the pinnacle of his vocals. And listen to him sing Still They Ride around that time opposed to Escape. His voice is dirtier and, man, does it sound fucking great.

Agree with every single word of both these posts. I like a little texture and grit to my favorite vocals.

Gbot, what???? Wait, there was actually a video for Still They Ride? An escape (not frontiers) era video? My all-time fave Journey song, gawd I would love to see that!

I believe MTV shot both nights at Houston and went with the second show for the broadcast. STR was on the charts at that time and I believe MTV ran a live concert version of it. Maybe it wasn't approved by Sony though, I don't know.

That's so long ago to tell you the truth, I can only remember the video starting off with blue lighting and smoke with Cain at the piano.

[stevew2]

The Frontiers Perry is for me the most powerful, resonant and stunning. Listen to the muscle on the vox of SW, Liberty*(best bet), Ask The Lonely and After The Fall and you actually realize why there are loons in the world.
Hits some sick notes on ROR too.

Escape, Frontiers and ROR Perry is the greatest voice(s) that ever lived. The voice used on After The Fall and Separate Ways is the pinnacle of his vocals. And listen to him sing Still They Ride around that time opposed to Escape. His voice is dirtier and, man, does it sound fucking great.

Agree with every single word of both these posts. I like a little texture and grit to my favorite vocals.

Gbot, what???? Wait, there was actually a video for Still They Ride? An escape (not frontiers) era video? My all-time fave Journey song, gawd I would love to see that!

I believe MTV shot both nights at Houston and went with the second show for the broadcast. STR was on the charts at that time and I believe MTV ran a live concert version of it. Maybe it wasn't approved by Sony though, I don't know.

That's so long ago to tell you the truth, I can only remember the video starting off with blue lighting and smoke with Cain at the piano.

Who in the hell is Cain

[Gideon]

Patiently is a wrist-slitting garbage song. Absolute shit. What gay lyrics.

Bite me.

lol...I just have no use for the pre-Escape Perry vocals. You can keep the Mariah Carey Journey years. Total shit vocally. And thank God Jon Cain came into the picture to redirect that awful songwriting.

*rubs eyes*

Did I seriously just read that? Jon Cain's writing reads like horrible sappy wedding poetry and it's probably the main reason I don't like Revelation. The one song I do like on there, surprise!... he had help on the lyrics.

Well, let's compare... Cain's work to Perry's. Perry's great solo contribution to the band? "Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'" Jon Cain's? "Faithfully." "Faithfully" vs. LTS? lololol. Cain could dunk his wang in ink and slap it around on paper and the result would be something more lyrically impressive than anything Perry can do. Meanwhile, Jon and Neal (with one song from Jeremey) write Revelation. Perry had a football stadium's worth of assistance for For the Love of Strange Medicine and the result was a lyrical and musical shitheap.

Even Herbie in the infamous Castles Burning made it clear: Cain brought much needed songwriting skills to the band.

[Gideon]

I don't consider those songs Rock, more like ballads and better than Open Arms and Faithfully although I like those songs.

All the songs you listed are great and I would include Chain Reaction, but still more pop rock to me.

What I'm referring to are songs like La Do Da, Lady Luck, Lovin you is easy, City of the Angels, Where Were You,
Line of Fire, Homemade Love etc..

I've heard this position espoused before, and I get that it's all subjective, but I personally don't see the validity of it. So, naturally, I'd like for it to be elaborated upon.

Let's compare "Edge of the Blade" to "City of the Angels." You're going to sit here and tell me that "City of the Angels" rocks harder? No. No, I understand a preference for the '70s era (I love the whole of Infinity), but it's pretty easy to decide which era is harder and heavier.

There is no Rolie/Perry-era rock song that is heavier than the Cain/Perry-era. "Edge of the Blade", "Chain Reaction", "Lay It Down", "Stone In Love", "Dead Or Alive", "Backtalk", "Separate Ways", "Message of Love", "I Can See It In Your Eyes", ect.

Cain definitely brought more ballads to the band than Rolie, but he also brought more rockers, too.

Edit: By the way, I'm not criticising. I'm just curious. I'd like to hear your position explained better, because I just don't see the uber rock that was Evolution.

[Since 78]

I don't consider those songs Rock, more like ballads and better than Open Arms and Faithfully although I like those songs.

All the songs you listed are great and I would include Chain Reaction, but still more pop rock to me.

What I'm referring to are songs like La Do Da, Lady Luck, Lovin you is easy, City of the Angels, Where Were You,
Line of Fire, Homemade Love etc..

I've heard this position espoused before, and I get that it's all subjective, but I personally don't see the validity of it. So, naturally, I'd like for it to be elaborated upon.

Let's compare "Edge of the Blade" to "City of the Angels." You're going to sit here and tell me that "City of the Angels" rocks harder? No. No, I understand a preference for the '70s era (I love the whole of Infinity), but it's pretty easy to decide which era is harder and heavier.

There is no Rolie/Perry-era rock song that is heavier than the Cain/Perry-era. "Edge of the Blade", "Chain Reaction", "Lay It Down", "Stone In Love", "Dead Or Alive", "Backtalk", "Separate Ways", "Message of Love", "I Can See It In Your Eyes", ect.

Cain definitely brought more ballads to the band than Rolie, but he also brought more rockers, too.

Edit: By the way, I'm not criticising. I'm just curious. I'd like to hear your position explained better, because I just don't see the uber rock that was Evolution.

I wouldn't say that the songs rock harder, I'm just more a fan of the Rolie era style. Their sound changed dramatically after his departure. Also, this was my first exposure to Journey, I saw them twice in 78-79, so to me that is the Journey sound. Of course most here disagree because theirs is the Escape or ROR era which is a completely different Band sound wise.

[Deb]

I don't consider those songs Rock, more like ballads and better than Open Arms and Faithfully although I like those songs.

All the songs you listed are great and I would include Chain Reaction, but still more pop rock to me.

What I'm referring to are songs like La Do Da, Lady Luck, Lovin you is easy, City of the Angels, Where Were You,
Line of Fire, Homemade Love etc..

I've heard this position espoused before, and I get that it's all subjective, but I personally don't see the validity of it. So, naturally, I'd like for it to be elaborated upon.

Let's compare "Edge of the Blade" to "City of the Angels." You're going to sit here and tell me that "City of the Angels" rocks harder? No. No, I understand a preference for the '70s era (I love the whole of Infinity), but it's pretty easy to decide which era is harder and heavier.

There is no Rolie/Perry-era rock song that is heavier than the Cain/Perry-era. "Edge of the Blade", "Chain Reaction", "Lay It Down", "Stone In Love", "Dead Or Alive", "Backtalk", "Separate Ways", "Message of Love", "I Can See It In Your Eyes", ect.

Cain definitely brought more ballads to the band than Rolie, but he also brought more rockers, too.

Edit: By the way, I'm not criticising. I'm just curious. I'd like to hear your position explained better, because I just don't see the uber rock that was Evolution.

I wouldn't say that the songs rock harder, I'm just more a fan of the Rolie era style. Their sound changed dramatically after his departure. Also, this was my first exposure to Journey, I saw them twice in 78-79, so to me that is the Journey sound. Of course most here disagree because theirs is the Escape or ROR era which is a completely different Band sound wise.

I think I know what you mean one era is more of a bluesy-rock and the other a pop-rock. I love both, but sometimes there is just nothing better than a great down and dirty bluesy-rock groove (probably why Chickenfoot's Sexy Little Thing quickly became a fave). Although I prefer Perry's more textured vocals later on, I love some of those earlier songs......especially Departure era. And love the vocal contrast on the Perry/Rollie songs.....definite favorite is Just The Same Way.

[Since 78]

I don't consider those songs Rock, more like ballads and better than Open Arms and Faithfully although I like those songs.

All the songs you listed are great and I would include Chain Reaction, but still more pop rock to me.

What I'm referring to are songs like La Do Da, Lady Luck, Lovin you is easy, City of the Angels, Where Were You,
Line of Fire, Homemade Love etc..

I've heard this position espoused before, and I get that it's all subjective, but I personally don't see the validity of it. So, naturally, I'd like for it to be elaborated upon.

Let's compare "Edge of the Blade" to "City of the Angels." You're going to sit here and tell me that "City of the Angels" rocks harder? No. No, I understand a preference for the '70s era (I love the whole of Infinity), but it's pretty easy to decide which era is harder and heavier.

There is no Rolie/Perry-era rock song that is heavier than the Cain/Perry-era. "Edge of the Blade", "Chain Reaction", "Lay It Down", "Stone In Love", "Dead Or Alive", "Backtalk", "Separate Ways", "Message of Love", "I Can See It In Your Eyes", ect.

Cain definitely brought more ballads to the band than Rolie, but he also brought more rockers, too.

Edit: By the way, I'm not criticising. I'm just curious. I'd like to hear your position explained better, because I just don't see the uber rock that was Evolution.

I wouldn't say that the songs rock harder, I'm just more a fan of the Rolie era style. Their sound changed dramatically after his departure. Also, this was my first exposure to Journey, I saw them twice in 78-79, so to me that is the Journey sound. Of course most here disagree because theirs is the Escape or ROR era which is a completely different Band sound wise.

I think I know what you mean one era is more of a bluesy-rock and the other a pop-rock. I love both, but sometimes there is just nothing better than a great down and dirty bluesy-rock groove (probably why Chickenfoot's Sexy Little Thing quickly became a fave). Although I prefer Perry's more textured vocals later on, I love some of those earlier songs......especially Departure era. And love the vocal contrast on the Perry/Rollie songs.....definite favorite is Just The Same Way.

Yes, I think bluesy rock versus pop is a good analogy. I love all of Perry's vocals from Infinity to FTLOSM, but I prefer the bands style in the Infinity era. I know..... they wouldn't have sold a bijillion albums if Cain hadn't come along etc....

[steveo777]

I don't consider those songs Rock, more like ballads and better than Open Arms and Faithfully although I like those songs.

All the songs you listed are great and I would include Chain Reaction, but still more pop rock to me.

What I'm referring to are songs like La Do Da, Lady Luck, Lovin you is easy, City of the Angels, Where Were You,
Line of Fire, Homemade Love etc..

I've heard this position espoused before, and I get that it's all subjective, but I personally don't see the validity of it. So, naturally, I'd like for it to be elaborated upon.

Let's compare "Edge of the Blade" to "City of the Angels." You're going to sit here and tell me that "City of the Angels" rocks harder? No. No, I understand a preference for the '70s era (I love the whole of Infinity), but it's pretty easy to decide which era is harder and heavier.

There is no Rolie/Perry-era rock song that is heavier than the Cain/Perry-era. "Edge of the Blade", "Chain Reaction", "Lay It Down", "Stone In Love", "Dead Or Alive", "Backtalk", "Separate Ways", "Message of Love", "I Can See It In Your Eyes", ect.

Cain definitely brought more ballads to the band than Rolie, but he also brought more rockers, too.

Edit: By the way, I'm not criticising. I'm just curious. I'd like to hear your position explained better, because I just don't see the uber rock that was Evolution.

I wouldn't say that the songs rock harder, I'm just more a fan of the Rolie era style. Their sound changed dramatically after his departure. Also, this was my first exposure to Journey, I saw them twice in 78-79, so to me that is the Journey sound. Of course most here disagree because theirs is the Escape or ROR era which is a completely different Band sound wise.

I think I know what you mean one era is more of a bluesy-rock and the other a pop-rock. I love both, but sometimes there is just nothing better than a great down and dirty bluesy-rock groove (probably why Chickenfoot's Sexy Little Thing quickly became a fave). Although I prefer Perry's more textured vocals later on, I love some of those earlier songs......especially Departure era. And love the vocal contrast on the Perry/Rollie songs.....definite favorite is Just The Same Way.

Yes, I think bluesy rock versus pop is a good analogy. I love all of Perry's vocals from Infinity to FTLOSM, but I prefer the bands style in the Infinity era. I know..... they wouldn't have sold a bijillion albums if Cain hadn't come along etc....

Cain likes animals so he's alright with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eganNKsJXWQ

[Since 78]

I don't consider those songs Rock, more like ballads and better than Open Arms and Faithfully although I like those songs.

All the songs you listed are great and I would include Chain Reaction, but still more pop rock to me.

What I'm referring to are songs like La Do Da, Lady Luck, Lovin you is easy, City of the Angels, Where Were You,
Line of Fire, Homemade Love etc..

I've heard this position espoused before, and I get that it's all subjective, but I personally don't see the validity of it. So, naturally, I'd like for it to be elaborated upon.

Let's compare "Edge of the Blade" to "City of the Angels." You're going to sit here and tell me that "City of the Angels" rocks harder? No. No, I understand a preference for the '70s era (I love the whole of Infinity), but it's pretty easy to decide which era is harder and heavier.

There is no Rolie/Perry-era rock song that is heavier than the Cain/Perry-era. "Edge of the Blade", "Chain Reaction", "Lay It Down", "Stone In Love", "Dead Or Alive", "Backtalk", "Separate Ways", "Message of Love", "I Can See It In Your Eyes", ect.

Cain definitely brought more ballads to the band than Rolie, but he also brought more rockers, too.

Edit: By the way, I'm not criticising. I'm just curious. I'd like to hear your position explained better, because I just don't see the uber rock that was Evolution.

I wouldn't say that the songs rock harder, I'm just more a fan of the Rolie era style. Their sound changed dramatically after his departure. Also, this was my first exposure to Journey, I saw them twice in 78-79, so to me that is the Journey sound. Of course most here disagree because theirs is the Escape or ROR era which is a completely different Band sound wise.

I think I know what you mean one era is more of a bluesy-rock and the other a pop-rock. I love both, but sometimes there is just nothing better than a great down and dirty bluesy-rock groove (probably why Chickenfoot's Sexy Little Thing quickly became a fave). Although I prefer Perry's more textured vocals later on, I love some of those earlier songs......especially Departure era. And love the vocal contrast on the Perry/Rollie songs.....definite favorite is Just The Same Way.

Yes, I think bluesy rock versus pop is a good analogy. I love all of Perry's vocals from Infinity to FTLOSM, but I prefer the bands style in the Infinity era. I know..... they wouldn't have sold a bijillion albums if Cain hadn't come along etc....

Cain likes animals so he's alright with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eganNKsJXWQ

Kinda sounds like Billy Joel with a cold!

[Lula]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

It's a fucking fantastic song and the only tune I actually know above it on the list it is Bleeding Heart by Leona Lewis. Of course, the rest of the stuff wil fall by the wayside as DSB stays evergreen.
I saw it used as one of many points of debate with Sycophant and decided the facts needed to be put out so no one has it thrown in their face later.

Cruising through Santa Monica last night at around 9 pm and I hear on the radio "Hello, this is Steve Perry and you're listening to the Uncle Joe Benson show." Then DSB came on. Never get tired of that song.

ummmm, excuse me! you're in my neighborhood and you just kept on going? dude?! what's up with that?

[Saint John]

Ok, so it's the most downloaded good song! I'll tell you what, pretty much all of the 41 songs in front of it are very modern and will fade fast. DSB will continue to sell and climb that chart. It's destined for the top 5 in a few years.

It's a fucking fantastic song and the only tune I actually know above it on the list it is Bleeding Heart by Leona Lewis. Of course, the rest of the stuff wil fall by the wayside as DSB stays evergreen.
I saw it used as one of many points of debate with Sycophant and decided the facts needed to be put out so no one has it thrown in their face later.

Cruising through Santa Monica last night at around 9 pm and I hear on the radio "Hello, this is Steve Perry and you're listening to the Uncle Joe Benson show." Then DSB came on. Never get tired of that song.

ummmm, excuse me! you're in my neighborhood and you just kept on going? dude?! what's up with that?

I said hi a few days ago.

[Lula]

yeah, that didn't count! i want a do-over

[Saint John]

yeah, that didn't count! i want a do-over

How about tomorrow? I have been in downtown Santa Monica almost every day. I've fallen in love with the 3rd Street Promenade. Stefano's Pizza is off the charts! That's a really nice stretch of stores, shops and bars.

[Don]

yeah, that didn't count! i want a do-over

How about tomorrow? I have been in downtown Santa Monica almost every day. I've fallen in love with the 3rd Street Promenade. Stefano's Pizza is off the charts! That's a really nice stretch of stores, shops and bars.

Dude, you ARE NOT hanging at Zanzibar's are you?

[Saint John]

yeah, that didn't count! i want a do-over

How about tomorrow? I have been in downtown Santa Monica almost every day. I've fallen in love with the 3rd Street Promenade. Stefano's Pizza is off the charts! That's a really nice stretch of stores, shops and bars.

Dude, you ARE NOT hanging at Zanzibar's are you?

Let me guess...gay bar?

[Don]

yeah, that didn't count! i want a do-over

How about tomorrow? I have been in downtown Santa Monica almost every day. I've fallen in love with the 3rd Street Promenade. Stefano's Pizza is off the charts! That's a really nice stretch of stores, shops and bars.

Dude, you ARE NOT hanging at Zanzibar's are you?

Let me guess...gay bar?

African Disco

[Don]

yeah, that didn't count! i want a do-over

How about tomorrow? I have been in downtown Santa Monica almost every day. I've fallen in love with the 3rd Street Promenade. Stefano's Pizza is off the charts! That's a really nice stretch of stores, shops and bars.

Dude, you ARE NOT hanging at Zanzibar's are you?

Let me guess...gay bar?

Ms. Texas would love that , wouldn't she?