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Postby Jana » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:06 am

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strangegrey wrote: Regardless, what I hate, is the bullshit that is thrust by some folks here that Arnel is some second coming of the messiah. The success the band is experiencing right now, is in NO WAY, even close to what the band experienced in the 80s. Arnel might have nudged this band a notch or two higher than Augeri or Soto could have...but let's not start calling it a comeback yet. There's ALOT of additional factors that come into play here...and any one of them can be far more the reason than Arnel's voice.


While I don't often agree with you and your style of posting, I do agree with this. The success (songwriting/music) of Revelation, DSB and the comeback of 80's type bands guaranteed the band some success even with Jeremey, who I'm sure would have done just fine. I do agree with many that AP brought a lot to the band and he's doing a great job. I think Journey's success today has encouraged a lot of other 80's type bands to get back on the road again.

Personally, I don't see Neal or Jon getting rid of Arnel, but rather Arnel leaving on his own. He just doesn't appear to like or hold up well touring and Journey is a live band. I'm sure he'll stick it out a while longer through the next album, but than return permanently to PI where it appears he is the happiest.


Try living in the Philippines with almost a hand to mouth existence and tell me again that Arnel would leave Journey because he couldn't tour. Sorry dude, but I am sure you don't comprehend how big a leap Arnel made when he became the lead singer of Journey. He is not going to let go of this opportunity.



... and it's Dudette to you Dude. I just think that if AP is the simple guy he claims to be when does he feel it's enough. I commend Arnel for stayng on the road and I hope he keeps it up. But you never know?


I think, though Arnel doesn't likes touring, he will stick it out for quite a few more years. And I don't agree with Frank that Neal will kick him to the curb. I don't see that happening at all just b/c they like the roll they're on with him. Though I loved Frank's remark re Neal doing it b/c Arnel charged Pizza to Neal's room. Now, that's some funny stuff from the Frank I remember. :lol: :lol:

Arnel is loyal and will hang in there. I think if he learns to balance his time off, which he spent way too much time on other stuff back in the Phils this past year, with his time on the road touring with Journey he will really enjoy the tradeoff. Six months or seven months very well-off financially at home with family relaxing, enjoying the fruits of his labor, and five months on the road out of the year not too bad.

Plus, I believe, and this is just me, that Neal will do what it takes to keep Arnel within reason I think Arnel with family traveling with him in the U.S. will make all the difference in the world. And as this band is getting older, in a few years I could even see them doing smaller tours or taking a year off possibly. This year is a month for the Asian/Hawaii tour, some down time, and four months for European/USA leg.
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Postby mdaemon » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:06 am

strangegrey wrote:I feel sorry for Arnel. Someday, he's going to get his ass thrown out of this band for a very poor reason...maybe Arnel will accidentally charge a pizza to Schon's room...who knows!?!?!... But he WILL get shanghai'ed by Schon, Cain and others. I'd bet both my testicles on it. One thing I am wondering....will all of the racists here, who are so willing to charge in with the 'you're a racist' accusation.....will you jump on Schon when he throws out Arnel? It's not a matter of if....it's a matter of when. And you all know it.


Regardless, what I hate, is the bullshit that is thrust by some folks here that Arnel is some second coming of the messiah. The success the band is experiencing right now, is in NO WAY, even close to what the band experienced in the 80s. Arnel might have nudged this band a notch or two higher than Augeri or Soto could have...but let's not start calling it a comeback yet. There's ALOT of additional factors that come into play here...and any one of them can be far more the reason than Arnel's voice.

I'm for calling a spade a spade....There are arneliots here that are more than willing to bury their heads in the sand, ignore the truth, just so they can claim ownership on this....but they're just lying to everyone else and themselves.


You almost had me there, Frank. Let me wipe my fake tears and pretend that I believe you feel sorry for Arnel :wink:

Arnel is singing for the band he was covering before, seeing the world, performing at festivals with 20,000 more people than he used to perform in, being invited by the President to her official residence, rubbing shoulders with the legends of rock and roll, having his own statue erected; and earning shit loads of money (I am talking about 3rd world currency here) at the same time - I can see how you can feel sorry for him.

I really don't think Journey will treat him the way they treated JSS. Journey will not survive the backlash from fans and media alike if they fuck over a humble, hard working, citizen of a 3rd world country. They are not that stupid. Besides, Arnel made them better persons, remember?

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Postby portland » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:12 am

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strangegrey wrote:I feel sorry for Arnel. Someday, he's going to get his ass thrown out of this band for a very poor reason...maybe Arnel will accidentally charge a pizza to Schon's room...who knows!?!?!... But he WILL get shanghai'ed by Schon, Cain and others. I'd bet both my testicles on it. One thing I am wondering....will all of the racists here, who are so willing to charge in with the 'you're a racist' accusation.....will you jump on Schon when he throws out Arnel? It's not a matter of if....it's a matter of when. And you all know it.


Regardless, what I hate, is the bullshit that is thrust by some folks here that Arnel is some second coming of the messiah. The success the band is experiencing right now, is in NO WAY, even close to what the band experienced in the 80s. Arnel might have nudged this band a notch or two higher than Augeri or Soto could have...but let's not start calling it a comeback yet. There's ALOT of additional factors that come into play here...and any one of them can be far more the reason than Arnel's voice.

I'm for calling a spade a spade....There are arneliots here that are more than willing to bury their heads in the sand, ignore the truth, just so they can claim ownership on this....but they're just lying to everyone else and themselves.


You almost had me there, Frank. Let me wipe my fake tears and pretend that I believe you feel sorry for Arnel :wink:

Arnel is singing for the band he was covering before, seeing the world, performing at festivals with 20,000 more people than he used to perform in, being invited by the President to her official residence, rubbing shoulders with the legends of rock and roll, having his own statue erected; and earning shit loads of money (I am talking about 3rd world currency here) at the same time - I can see how you can feel sorry for him.

I really don't think Journey will treat him the way they treated JSS. Journey will not survive the backlash from fans and media alike if they fuck over a humble, hard working, citizen of a 3rd world country. They are not that stupid. Besides, Arnel made them better persons, remember?

:D








Jana just always remember it is Neal we are talking about.....he can be a little hard to understand at times...so I don't think any of us knows what is going to happen.....he has proved time and time again that you just don't know what he is going to do. There are alot of things that can or might happen.....just sayin, things seem to change with the wind.
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Postby RocknRoll » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:20 am

Jana wrote:I think, though Arnel doesn't likes touring, he will stick it out for quite a few more years. And I don't agree with Frank that Neal will kick him to the curb. I don't see that happening at all just b/c they like the roll they're on with him. Though I loved Frank's remark re Neal doing it b/c Arnel charged Pizza to Neal's room. Now, that's some funny stuff from the Frank I remember. :lol: :lol:

Arnel is loyal and will hang in there. I think if he learns to balance his time off, which he spent way too much time on other stuff back in the Phils this past year, with his time on the road touring with Journey he will really enjoy the tradeoff. Six months or seven months very well-off financially at home with family relaxing, enjoying the fruits of his labor, and five months on the road out of the year not too bad.

Plus, I believe, and this is just me, that Neal will do what it takes to keep Arnel within reason I think Arnel with family traveling with him in the U.S. will make all the difference in the world. And as this band is getting older, in a few years I could even see them doing smaller tours or taking a year off possibly. This year is a month for the Asian/Hawaii tour, some down time, and four months for European/USA leg.


I hope you are right about Arnel. :D :D

If they get a new album out next year, than it's probably another year of heavy touring, but than scale it back.

Maybe we'd finally get a new Neal solo CD. :D :D A little solo NS tour would also be a nice filler for the months off.
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Postby Jana » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:24 am

portland wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
strangegrey wrote:I feel sorry for Arnel. Someday, he's going to get his ass thrown out of this band for a very poor reason...maybe Arnel will accidentally charge a pizza to Schon's room...who knows!?!?!... But he WILL get shanghai'ed by Schon, Cain and others. I'd bet both my testicles on it. One thing I am wondering....will all of the racists here, who are so willing to charge in with the 'you're a racist' accusation.....will you jump on Schon when he throws out Arnel? It's not a matter of if....it's a matter of when. And you all know it.


Regardless, what I hate, is the bullshit that is thrust by some folks here that Arnel is some second coming of the messiah. The success the band is experiencing right now, is in NO WAY, even close to what the band experienced in the 80s. Arnel might have nudged this band a notch or two higher than Augeri or Soto could have...but let's not start calling it a comeback yet. There's ALOT of additional factors that come into play here...and any one of them can be far more the reason than Arnel's voice.

I'm for calling a spade a spade....There are arneliots here that are more than willing to bury their heads in the sand, ignore the truth, just so they can claim ownership on this....but they're just lying to everyone else and themselves.


You almost had me there, Frank. Let me wipe my fake tears and pretend that I believe you feel sorry for Arnel :wink:

Arnel is singing for the band he was covering before, seeing the world, performing at festivals with 20,000 more people than he used to perform in, being invited by the President to her official residence, rubbing shoulders with the legends of rock and roll, having his own statue erected; and earning shit loads of money (I am talking about 3rd world currency here) at the same time - I can see how you can feel sorry for him.

I really don't think Journey will treat him the way they treated JSS. Journey will not survive the backlash from fans and media alike if they fuck over a humble, hard working, citizen of a 3rd world country. They are not that stupid. Besides, Arnel made them better persons, remember?

:D








Jana just always remember it is Neal we are talking about.....he can be a little hard to understand at times...so I don't think any of us knows what is going to happen.....he has proved time and time again that you just don't know what he is going to do. There are alot of things that can or might happen.....just sayin, things seem to change with the wind.


Actually Augeri was with them for ten years. I consider that pretty darn significant. People seem to forget that. He is gone only b/c he couldn't do the catalogue anymore vocally. JSS filled in, hired briefly and realized they made a mistake for their own personal reasons. I'm of the opinion the only way Neal is getting rid of Arnel is if Arnel choses to leave. But, hey, anything could happen. The guys aren't young.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:27 am

RocknRoll wrote:If they get a new album out next year, than it's probably another year of heavy touring


New album should be out around February.
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Postby mdaemon » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:31 am

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RocknRoll wrote:If they get a new album out next year, than it's probably another year of heavy touring


New album should be out around February.


I hope Arnel can contribute to the writing of the songs.
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Postby RocknRoll » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:32 am

Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:If they get a new album out next year, than it's probably another year of heavy touring


New album should be out around February.


Don't they have to write it first? :? :? :?
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Postby portland » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:33 am

mdaemon wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:If they get a new album out next year, than it's probably another year of heavy touring


New album should be out around February.


I hope Arnel can contribute to the writing of the songs.





Did he have any original work that he preformed in the past....does he have a song writing background? Just curious...
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Postby mdaemon » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:34 am

portland wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:If they get a new album out next year, than it's probably another year of heavy touring


New album should be out around February.


I hope Arnel can contribute to the writing of the songs.





Did he have any original work that he preformed in the past....does he have a song writing background? Just curious...


Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnel_Pineda_(album)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoology_(album)
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Postby RocknRoll » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:39 am

mdaemon wrote:
portland wrote:
Did he have any original work that he preformed in the past....does he have a song writing background? Just curious...


Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnel_Pineda_(album)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoology_(album)


The question is can he write Journey music?
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Postby mdaemon » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:40 am

RocknRoll wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
portland wrote:
Did he have any original work that he preformed in the past....does he have a song writing background? Just curious...


Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnel_Pineda_(album)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoology_(album)


The question is can he write Journey music?


...the next question is, will he be allowed to write?
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Postby portland » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:42 am

mdaemon wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
portland wrote:
Did he have any original work that he preformed in the past....does he have a song writing background? Just curious...


Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnel_Pineda_(album)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoology_(album)


The question is can he write Journey music?


...the next question is, will he be allowed to write?






and what about the grasp of the english language.....I would think that would come into play in songwriting
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Postby strangegrey » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:52 am

mdaemon wrote:You almost had me there, Frank. Let me wipe my fake tears and pretend that I believe you feel sorry for Arnel :wink:

Arnel is singing for the band he was covering before, seeing the world, performing at festivals with 20,000 more people than he used to perform in, being invited by the President to her official residence, rubbing shoulders with the legends of rock and roll, having his own statue erected; and earning shit loads of money (I am talking about 3rd world currency here) at the same time - I can see how you can feel sorry for him.

I really don't think Journey will treat him the way they treated JSS. Journey will not survive the backlash from fans and media alike if they fuck over a humble, hard working, citizen of a 3rd world country. They are not that stupid. Besides, Arnel made them better persons, remember?

:D


Whatever, if you think you know how I truly feel on this...then good for you.

I do genuinely feel sorry for Arnel...and if you were a Journey fan longer than Arnel's tenure in this band, you'd know where I was coming from. This band, as under the thumb of Neal's wind-borne whims, does in-fact, have a bad history with singers. Seriously... Again, don't take my word for it.....look back across time. It's not just the singers that were announced as formal-members of this band. Look at all of the singers that almost worked out with this band, but something went wrong....Mr Hunsicker tops a long list.

So, yes, I really do feel sorry for this poor kid. because he's going to get dumped at a time when it's most advantageous to Nick Schlong and Tampax Jonny...mark my words. I won't pop in here to say "I Told You so" when it happens...but I *guarantee* my gay-faggotty ass goatee'd avatar is going to haunt your thoughts when it happens! Trust me!!!





RocknRoll wrote:Don't they have to write it first? :? :? :?


Why bother? I'm sure they have a whole boatload of augeri-era songs they can just rerecord....or maybe they can fill the album we redone tracks from Time3. The possibilities are endless from having to do any real work....
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Postby mdaemon » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:06 am

strangegrey wrote:
mdaemon wrote:You almost had me there, Frank. Let me wipe my fake tears and pretend that I believe you feel sorry for Arnel :wink:

Arnel is singing for the band he was covering before, seeing the world, performing at festivals with 20,000 more people than he used to perform in, being invited by the President to her official residence, rubbing shoulders with the legends of rock and roll, having his own statue erected; and earning shit loads of money (I am talking about 3rd world currency here) at the same time - I can see how you can feel sorry for him.

I really don't think Journey will treat him the way they treated JSS. Journey will not survive the backlash from fans and media alike if they fuck over a humble, hard working, citizen of a 3rd world country. They are not that stupid. Besides, Arnel made them better persons, remember?

:D


Whatever, if you think you know how I truly feel on this...then good for you.

I do genuinely feel sorry for Arnel...and if you were a Journey fan longer than Arnel's tenure in this band, you'd know where I was coming from. This band, as under the thumb of Neal's wind-borne whims, does in-fact, have a bad history with singers. Seriously... Again, don't take my word for it.....look back across time. It's not just the singers that were announced as formal-members of this band. Look at all of the singers that almost worked out with this band, but something went wrong....Mr Hunsicker tops a long list.

So, yes, I really do feel sorry for this poor kid. because he's going to get dumped at a time when it's most advantageous to Nick Schlong and Tampax Jonny...mark my words. I won't pop in here to say "I Told You so" when it happens...but I *guarantee* my gay-faggotty ass goatee'd avatar is going to haunt your thoughts when it happens! Trust me!!!




Hunsicker said no to Journey due to not being able to tour as he just had a baby back then, didn't he? At least that's what he told us. So Hunsicker, technically, isn't part of that list.
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Postby Chubby321 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:08 am

Yes, knowing Arnel, he will be forever grateful to Neal Schon and Journey management for giving him the chance of a lifetime. It’s not his cup of tea to publicly slam anybody. He will be forever grateful to the fans especially the American people for their support. He’s very humbled by the fact that the “big boys” entrusted him with their music.

On a side note, for those who do not know, Arnel established the Arnel Pineda Foundation after he was hired. His next project is to help educate those homeless kids in the Philippines. He wants to establish “education on wheels” wherein they will pinpoint where those homeless kids regularly roam around and the teacher will set up an instant classroom in the streets. The foundation will provide for the school materials and school supplies.
Arnel Pineda's official site.

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Postby portland » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:09 am

strangegrey wrote:
mdaemon wrote:You almost had me there, Frank. Let me wipe my fake tears and pretend that I believe you feel sorry for Arnel :wink:

Arnel is singing for the band he was covering before, seeing the world, performing at festivals with 20,000 more people than he used to perform in, being invited by the President to her official residence, rubbing shoulders with the legends of rock and roll, having his own statue erected; and earning shit loads of money (I am talking about 3rd world currency here) at the same time - I can see how you can feel sorry for him.

I really don't think Journey will treat him the way they treated JSS. Journey will not survive the backlash from fans and media alike if they fuck over a humble, hard working, citizen of a 3rd world country. They are not that stupid. Besides, Arnel made them better persons, remember?

:D


Whatever, if you think you know how I truly feel on this...then good for you.

I do genuinely feel sorry for Arnel...and if you were a Journey fan longer than Arnel's tenure in this band, you'd know where I was coming from. This band, as under the thumb of Neal's wind-borne whims, does in-fact, have a bad history with singers. Seriously... Again, don't take my word for it.....look back across time. It's not just the singers that were announced as formal-members of this band. Look at all of the singers that almost worked out with this band, but something went wrong....Mr Hunsicker tops a long list.

So, yes, I really do feel sorry for this poor kid. because he's going to get dumped at a time when it's most advantageous to Nick Schlong and Tampax Jonny...mark my words. I won't pop in here to say "I Told You so" when it happens...but I *guarantee* my gay-faggotty ass goatee'd avatar is going to haunt your thoughts when it happens! Trust me!!!





RocknRoll wrote:Don't they have to write it first? :? :? :?


Why bother? I'm sure they have a whole boatload of augeri-era songs they can just rerecord....or maybe they can fill the album we redone tracks from Time3. The possibilities are endless from having to do any real work....





Well it will be a fun thing to watch....
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Postby mdaemon » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:09 am

portland wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
portland wrote:
Did he have any original work that he preformed in the past....does he have a song writing background? Just curious...


Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnel_Pineda_(album)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoology_(album)


The question is can he write Journey music?


...the next question is, will he be allowed to write?






and what about the grasp of the english language.....I would think that would come into play in songwriting


Arnel is fluent is english. He may have had a problem expressing himself due to confidence issues back then but that is not the case now. Check out Arnel's old Zoo video and listen to him communicate to the audience in English. Also. Arnel worked in HongKong for several years so the only way he can communicate with the locals there was to speak in English. Lastly, if you have been to the Philippines, English is widely spoken there. Even a lowly tricycle (tuk-tuk) driver understands and speak passable english.
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Postby Lula » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:12 am

i don't want to read the whole thread, can i get a summary please?

are some thinking arnel is out of the band?

from what i've gathered from this page i'll say the band has always spent way too much time on the road... that is where their money comes from. if arnel can't handle the road could be trouble, but i'd hope the band realizes they're at the end of their proverbial rope with replacing singers.
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Postby portland » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:12 am

mdaemon wrote:
portland wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
portland wrote:
Did he have any original work that he preformed in the past....does he have a song writing background? Just curious...


Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnel_Pineda_(album)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoology_(album)


The question is can he write Journey music?


...the next question is, will he be allowed to write?






and what about the grasp of the english language.....I would think that would come into play in songwriting


Arnel is fluent is english. He may have had a problem expressing himself due to confidence issues back then but that is not the case now. Check out Arnel's old Zoo video and listen to him communicate to the audience in English. Also. Arnel worked in HongKong for several years so the only way he can communicate with the locals there was to speak in English. Lastly, if you have been to the Philippines, English is widely spoken there. Even a lowly tricycle (tuk-tuk) driver understands and speak passable english.







There is a difference in understanding and speaking a language and songwriting...IMO...songwriting takes a depth of feeling in the words....
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Postby Chubby321 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:13 am

mdaemon wrote:
portland wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
portland wrote:
Did he have any original work that he preformed in the past....does he have a song writing background? Just curious...


Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnel_Pineda_(album)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoology_(album)


The question is can he write Journey music?


...the next question is, will he be allowed to write?






and what about the grasp of the english language.....I would think that would come into play in songwriting


Arnel is fluent is english. He may have had a problem expressing himself due to confidence issues back then but that is not the case now. Check out Arnel's old Zoo video and listen to him communicate to the audience in English. Also. Arnel worked in HongKong for several years so the only way he can communicate with the locals there was to speak in English. Lastly, if you have been to the Philippines, English is widely spoken there. Even a lowly tricycle (tuk-tuk) driver understands and speak passable english.


and RIP ROKKEN can confirm this......RIPPPPP where are you?
Arnel Pineda's official site.

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Postby portland » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:17 am

Chubby321 wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
portland wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
portland wrote:
Did he have any original work that he preformed in the past....does he have a song writing background? Just curious...


Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnel_Pineda_(album)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoology_(album)


The question is can he write Journey music?


...the next question is, will he be allowed to write?






and what about the grasp of the english language.....I would think that would come into play in songwriting


Arnel is fluent is english. He may have had a problem expressing himself due to confidence issues back then but that is not the case now. Check out Arnel's old Zoo video and listen to him communicate to the audience in English. Also. Arnel worked in HongKong for several years so the only way he can communicate with the locals there was to speak in English. Lastly, if you have been to the Philippines, English is widely spoken there. Even a lowly tricycle (tuk-tuk) driver understands and speak passable english.


and RIP ROKKEN can confirm this......RIPPPPP where are you?




Don't get all upset....I am just saying that it takes the depth of understanding to write songs the of Jon, Neal and he who shall not be named...these songs were obviouslly timeless as we are all still discussing them.
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Postby RocknRoll » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:18 am

Lula wrote:i don't want to read the whole thread, can i get a summary please?

are some thinking arnel is out of the band?

from what i've gathered from this page i'll say the band has always spent way too much time on the road... that is where their money comes from. if arnel can't handle the road could be trouble, but i'd hope the band realizes they're at the end of their proverbial rope with replacing singers.


Nothing to think Arnel is out of the band. Just comments regarding his dislike of touring. Speculating that someday down the road after their next album, the possibility that AP would want to give up on touring or Journey really scales things back.

Oh and Frank being Frank. :shock:
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Postby Blueskies » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:20 am

portland wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
portland wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:
mdaemon wrote:
portland wrote:
Did he have any original work that he preformed in the past....does he have a song writing background? Just curious...


Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnel_Pineda_(album)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoology_(album)


The question is can he write Journey music?


...the next question is, will he be allowed to write?






and what about the grasp of the english language.....I would think that would come into play in songwriting


Arnel is fluent is english. He may have had a problem expressing himself due to confidence issues back then but that is not the case now. Check out Arnel's old Zoo video and listen to him communicate to the audience in English. Also. Arnel worked in HongKong for several years so the only way he can communicate with the locals there was to speak in English. Lastly, if you have been to the Philippines, English is widely spoken there. Even a lowly tricycle (tuk-tuk) driver understands and speak passable english.







There is a difference in understanding and speaking a language and songwriting...IMO...songwriting takes a depth of feeling in the words....
I'm not sure if Arnel penned this song but IF he did he does have song writing talent because this is beautiful....
Pain In My Heart
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Postby Chubby321 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:22 am

To Portland,

Don't worry, not upset at all . It's good that you brought it up. There are so many misconceptions about the Philippines, it might be a third world country but it's better than most.
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Postby mdaemon » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:25 am

portland wrote:

There is a difference in understanding and speaking a language and songwriting...IMO...songwriting takes a depth of feeling in the words....


The Journey songs are about universal themes such as love, family, loyalty, pain, etc. You don't have to be a native speaker of a language to be able to express those feelings.
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Postby portland » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:25 am

Chubby321 wrote:Don't worry, not upset at all . It's good that you brought it up. There are so many misconception about the Philippines, it might be a third world country but it's better than most.




My husband was stationed there in the Air Force...so I am familar with the lifestyle. I just was making the point that it takes more than a understanding of the language to write songs
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Postby Chubby321 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:27 am

portland wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:Don't worry, not upset at all . It's good that you brought it up. There are so many misconception about the Philippines, it might be a third world country but it's better than most.




My husband was stationed there in the Air Force...so I am familar with the lifestyle. I just was making the point that it takes more than a understanding of the language to write songs


As mentioned already, he co-wrote many of the songs in his album.
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Postby Lula » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:30 am

RocknRoll wrote:
Lula wrote:i don't want to read the whole thread, can i get a summary please?

are some thinking arnel is out of the band?

from what i've gathered from this page i'll say the band has always spent way too much time on the road... that is where their money comes from. if arnel can't handle the road could be trouble, but i'd hope the band realizes they're at the end of their proverbial rope with replacing singers.


Nothing to think Arnel is out of the band. Just comments regarding his dislike of touring. Speculating that someday down the road after their next album, the possibility that AP would want to give up on touring or Journey really scales things back.

Oh and Frank being Frank. :shock:


thank you for bringing me up to speed.

arnel better start to like touring tho, it's the bread and butter for this band.
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Postby Chubby321 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:43 am

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Whatever, if you think you know how I truly feel on this...then good for you.

I do genuinely feel sorry for Arnel...and if you were a Journey fan longer than Arnel's tenure in this band, you'd know where I was coming from. This band, as under the thumb of Neal's wind-borne whims, does in-fact, have a bad history with singers. Seriously... Again, don't take my word for it.....look back across time. It's not just the singers that were announced as formal-members of this band. Look at all of the singers that almost worked out with this band, but something went wrong....Mr Hunsicker tops a long list.

So, yes, I really do feel sorry for this poor kid. because he's going to get dumped at a time when it's most advantageous to Nick Schlong and Tampax Jonny...mark my words. I won't pop in here to say "I Told You so" when it happens...but I *guarantee* my gay-faggotty ass goatee'd avatar is going to haunt your thoughts when it happens! Trust me!!!


Really, I think you won't be able to control yourself and be the first one to scream........ I TOLD YOU SO :lol: :lol: :lol:


By the way for us...it's not the second coming.....it's just the beginning. :D
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