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Postby Rhiannon » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:06 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....


Exactly the point.
The way I see it, the dude spoke his bit on the matter. Not much is open to speculation within proper reasoning. And I have my own money to manage, no offense to Mr. Valory.


Hence the whole reason this thread for people who havnt seen this interview with him...


Good for you, sparky. No one is going to crucify you for your choice of discussion topics. And I was practicing my right of agreeing with a statement made by someone that I... *dirk*dirk* agree with. I don't remember coming in here and saying that you were a blockhead or a dipshit or a horsefucker for starting a thread about Ross' money or lack of it. So, ease up there pal. I could care less what this thread was about, actually.
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Postby Blueskies » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:08 am

Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....

It's his business to talk about it or not. I don't see the need for others to talk about it because regardless if he talked about it once or not.... it's still his business and other then what he has said people add to it and go off on a tangent of speculation like this thread is already exhibiting. Not saying you are at all, but people have a bad habit of jumping to many conclusions based on snippits of info...then the speculation and rumor mill explodes....eventually rumors are widely spread as fact and become "common knowledge" ...and they can be so off based and inaccurate, unfair and can cause damage. Again, not saying you but I think it shows poorly on people to sit around and speculate on other people's private affairs and gossip about them....big, big problem in folks ..some get a sense of superiority from it ...some people have a constant need to talk about others to prop themselves up.

IMO, everyone would be better off tending to their own financial affairs rather then spending time denegrating someone else for their choices...their mistakes. Like I said..no one commenting here has the whole picture regardless of some brief conversation Ross had at one time. His finances are his business to choose to talk about or not....and even if he does it still isn't anyones business to speculate on it. I don't see how his financial affairs affect anyone except he and his family.
If anyone says..well it may affect the band...Ross is not the boss in the band..he is an employee and if he has to keep working for financial reasons it's no different then anyone else here having to continue to work to make money due to them needing to or in wanting to make more then they already have.
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Postby Blueskies » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:09 am

Rhiannon wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....


Exactly the point.
The way I see it, the dude spoke his bit on the matter. Not much is open to speculation within proper reasoning. And I have my own money to manage, no offense to Mr. Valory.

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Postby Art Vandelay » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:12 am

Blueskies wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....

It's his business to talk about it or not. I don't see the need for others to talk about it because regardless if he talked about it once or not.... it's still his business and other then what he has said people add to it and go off on a tangent of speculation like this thread is already exhibiting. Not saying you are at all, but people have a bad habit of jumping to many conclusions based on snippits of info...then the speculation and rumor mill explodes....eventually rumors are widely spread as fact and become "common knowledge" ...and they can be so off based and inaccurate, unfair and can cause damage. Again, not saying you but I think it shows poorly on people to sit around and speculate on other people's private affairs and gossip about them....big, big problem in folks ..some get a sense of superiority from it ...some people have a constant need to talk about others to prop themselves up.

IMO, everyone would be better off tending to their own financial affairs rather then spending time denegrating someone else for their choices...their mistakes. Like I said..no one commenting here has the whole picture regardless of some brief conversation Ross had at one time. His finances are his business to choose to talk about or not....and even if he does it still isn't anyones business to speculate on it. I don't see how his financial affairs affect anyone except he and his family.
If anyone says..well it may affect the band...Ross is not the boss in the band..he is an employee and if he has to keep working for financial reasons it's no different then anyone else here having to continue to work to make money due to them needing to or in wanting to make more then they already have.


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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:13 am

Rhiannon wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....


Exactly the point.
The way I see it, the dude spoke his bit on the matter. Not much is open to speculation within proper reasoning. And I have my own money to manage, no offense to Mr. Valory.


Hence the whole reason this thread for people who havnt seen this interview with him...


Good for you, sparky. No one is going to crucify you for your choice of discussion topics. And I was practicing my right of agreeing with a statement made by someone that I... *dirk*dirk* agree with. I don't remember coming in here and saying that you were a blockhead or a dipshit or a horsefucker for starting a thread about Ross' money or lack of it. So, ease up there pal. I could care less what this thread was about, actually.


....ok, rant over???
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Postby KenTheDude » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:15 am

Art Vandelay wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....

It's his business to talk about it or not. I don't see the need for others to talk about it because regardless if he talked about it once or not.... it's still his business and other then what he has said people add to it and go off on a tangent of speculation like this thread is already exhibiting. Not saying you are at all, but people have a bad habit of jumping to many conclusions based on snippits of info...then the speculation and rumor mill explodes....eventually rumors are widely spread as fact and become "common knowledge" ...and they can be so off based and inaccurate, unfair and can cause damage. Again, not saying you but I think it shows poorly on people to sit around and speculate on other people's private affairs and gossip about them....big, big problem in folks ..some get a sense of superiority from it ...some people have a constant need to talk about others to prop themselves up.

IMO, everyone would be better off tending to their own financial affairs rather then spending time denegrating someone else for their choices...their mistakes. Like I said..no one commenting here has the whole picture regardless of some brief conversation Ross had at one time. His finances are his business to choose to talk about or not....and even if he does it still isn't anyones business to speculate on it. I don't see how his financial affairs affect anyone except he and his family.
If anyone says..well it may affect the band...Ross is not the boss in the band..he is an employee and if he has to keep working for financial reasons it's no different then anyone else here having to continue to work to make money due to them needing to or in wanting to make more then they already have.


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Postby Blueskies » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:19 am

Rhiannon wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....


Exactly the point.
The way I see it, the dude spoke his bit on the matter. Not much is open to speculation within proper reasoning. And I have my own money to manage, no offense to Mr. Valory.


Hence the whole reason this thread for people who havnt seen this interview with him...


Good for you, sparky. No one is going to crucify you for your choice of discussion topics. And I was practicing my right of agreeing with a statement made by someone that I... *dirk*dirk* agree with. I don't remember coming in here and saying that you were a blockhead or a dipshit or a horsefucker for starting a thread about Ross' money or lack of it. So, ease up there pal. I could care less what this thread was about, actually.

Again, right on! If a topic is made it's up for discussion...if everyone is expected to agree on the subject then whats the point of putting it up for discussion. Maybe people should attach a note saying: ..ok this is what I think on this subject and I don't want to hear from anyone else except those that agree with me because if they don't I will take it personally. :lol: :wink:
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:22 am

Blueskies wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....


Exactly the point.
The way I see it, the dude spoke his bit on the matter. Not much is open to speculation within proper reasoning. And I have my own money to manage, no offense to Mr. Valory.


Hence the whole reason this thread for people who havnt seen this interview with him...


Good for you, sparky. No one is going to crucify you for your choice of discussion topics. And I was practicing my right of agreeing with a statement made by someone that I... *dirk*dirk* agree with. I don't remember coming in here and saying that you were a blockhead or a dipshit or a horsefucker for starting a thread about Ross' money or lack of it. So, ease up there pal. I could care less what this thread was about, actually.

Again, right on! If a topic is made it's up for discussion...if everyone is expected to agree on the subject then whats the point of putting it up for discussion. Maybe people should attach a note saying: ..ok this is what I think on this subject and I don't want to hear from anyone else except those that agree with me because if they don't I will take it personally. :lol: :wink:



How does


"Hence the whole reason this thread for people who havnt seen this interview with him"

mean

" don't want to hear from anyone else except those that agree with me because if they don't I will take it personally"
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Postby steveo777 » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:22 am

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Postby Rhiannon » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:24 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote:....ok, rant over???


I think so. (Wasn't ranting anyway. Read the "couldn't care" part. You're assuming I read you wrong and I'm assuming you read me wrong. It's text, it happens.)
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Postby Blueskies » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:26 am

KenTheDude wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....

It's his business to talk about it or not. I don't see the need for others to talk about it because regardless if he talked about it once or not.... it's still his business and other then what he has said people add to it and go off on a tangent of speculation like this thread is already exhibiting. Not saying you are at all, but people have a bad habit of jumping to many conclusions based on snippits of info...then the speculation and rumor mill explodes....eventually rumors are widely spread as fact and become "common knowledge" ...and they can be so off based and inaccurate, unfair and can cause damage. Again, not saying you but I think it shows poorly on people to sit around and speculate on other people's private affairs and gossip about them....big, big problem in folks ..some get a sense of superiority from it ...some people have a constant need to talk about others to prop themselves up.

IMO, everyone would be better off tending to their own financial affairs rather then spending time denegrating someone else for their choices...their mistakes. Like I said..no one commenting here has the whole picture regardless of some brief conversation Ross had at one time. His finances are his business to choose to talk about or not....and even if he does it still isn't anyones business to speculate on it. I don't see how his financial affairs affect anyone except he and his family.
If anyone says..well it may affect the band...Ross is not the boss in the band..he is an employee and if he has to keep working for financial reasons it's no different then anyone else here having to continue to work to make money due to them needing to or in wanting to make more then they already have.


Word.


No, lots of words. (too many!)
For someone that doesn't like to read you sure do spend a lot of time on a message board full of writing. Whatcha been doing all this time only skipping thru the text for pictures? :lol: :wink:
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Postby Blueskies » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:28 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....


Exactly the point.
The way I see it, the dude spoke his bit on the matter. Not much is open to speculation within proper reasoning. And I have my own money to manage, no offense to Mr. Valory.


Hence the whole reason this thread for people who havnt seen this interview with him...


Good for you, sparky. No one is going to crucify you for your choice of discussion topics. And I was practicing my right of agreeing with a statement made by someone that I... *dirk*dirk* agree with. I don't remember coming in here and saying that you were a blockhead or a dipshit or a horsefucker for starting a thread about Ross' money or lack of it. So, ease up there pal. I could care less what this thread was about, actually.

Again, right on! If a topic is made it's up for discussion...if everyone is expected to agree on the subject then whats the point of putting it up for discussion. Maybe people should attach a note saying: ..ok this is what I think on this subject and I don't want to hear from anyone else except those that agree with me because if they don't I will take it personally. :lol: :wink:



How does


"Hence the whole reason this thread for people who havnt seen this interview with him"

mean

" don't want to hear from anyone else except those that agree with me because if they don't I will take it personally"

did ya not notice the laughing smilie and wink?
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Postby KenTheDude » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:33 am

Blueskies wrote:
KenTheDude wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....

It's his business to talk about it or not. I don't see the need for others to talk about it because regardless if he talked about it once or not.... it's still his business and other then what he has said people add to it and go off on a tangent of speculation like this thread is already exhibiting. Not saying you are at all, but people have a bad habit of jumping to many conclusions based on snippits of info...then the speculation and rumor mill explodes....eventually rumors are widely spread as fact and become "common knowledge" ...and they can be so off based and inaccurate, unfair and can cause damage. Again, not saying you but I think it shows poorly on people to sit around and speculate on other people's private affairs and gossip about them....big, big problem in folks ..some get a sense of superiority from it ...some people have a constant need to talk about others to prop themselves up.

IMO, everyone would be better off tending to their own financial affairs rather then spending time denegrating someone else for their choices...their mistakes. Like I said..no one commenting here has the whole picture regardless of some brief conversation Ross had at one time. His finances are his business to choose to talk about or not....and even if he does it still isn't anyones business to speculate on it. I don't see how his financial affairs affect anyone except he and his family.
If anyone says..well it may affect the band...Ross is not the boss in the band..he is an employee and if he has to keep working for financial reasons it's no different then anyone else here having to continue to work to make money due to them needing to or in wanting to make more then they already have.


Word.


No, lots of words. (too many!)
For someone that doesn't like to read you sure do spend a lot of time on a message board full of writing. Whatcha been doing all this time only skipping thru the text for pictures? :lol: :wink:


You must have flunked math class in the obviously limited time you spent in high school. You have ten times the posts I do in just a little over a year longer than me. Next time, take you shoes and socks off and use your toes for counting before you spout off at the fingertips. :wink:
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Postby yulog » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:37 am

Blueskies wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....

It's his business to talk about it or not. I don't see the need for others to talk about it because regardless if he talked about it once or not.... it's still his business and other then what he has said people add to it and go off on a tangent of speculation like this thread is already exhibiting. Not saying you are at all, but people have a bad habit of jumping to many conclusions based on snippits of info...then the speculation and rumor mill explodes....eventually rumors are widely spread as fact and become "common knowledge" ...and they can be so off based and inaccurate, unfair and can cause damage. Again, not saying you but I think it shows poorly on people to sit around and speculate on other people's private affairs and gossip about them....big, big problem in folks ..some get a sense of superiority from it ...some people have a constant need to talk about others to prop themselves up.

IMO, everyone would be better off tending to their own financial affairs rather then spending time denegrating someone else for their choices...their mistakes. Like I said..no one commenting here has the whole picture regardless of some brief conversation Ross had at one time. His finances are his business to choose to talk about or not....and even if he does it still isn't anyones business to speculate on it. I don't see how his financial affairs affect anyone except he and his family.
If anyone says..well it may affect the band...Ross is not the boss in the band..he is an employee and if he has to keep working for financial reasons it's no different then anyone else here having to continue to work to make money due to them needing to or in wanting to make more then they already have.



Thats funny coming from you who went after Larry(as well as others), trying to label him as a bad person and a drug addict(i guess that would come under the heading "denegrating someone else for their choices or mistakes")

Another hypocritical sermon from pastor Phil ,please read along under the heading Do as i say, not as i do Image
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Postby Blueskies » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:46 am

KenTheDude wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
KenTheDude wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Blueskies wrote:I don't think Ross's finances are anyone's business but his own.


+1


He openly discussed it on BTM. There's nothing wrong with discussing what he openly spoke about, as long as people don't get carried away with drumming up their own conclusions....not that this would happen here....

It's his business to talk about it or not. I don't see the need for others to talk about it because regardless if he talked about it once or not.... it's still his business and other then what he has said people add to it and go off on a tangent of speculation like this thread is already exhibiting. Not saying you are at all, but people have a bad habit of jumping to many conclusions based on snippits of info...then the speculation and rumor mill explodes....eventually rumors are widely spread as fact and become "common knowledge" ...and they can be so off based and inaccurate, unfair and can cause damage. Again, not saying you but I think it shows poorly on people to sit around and speculate on other people's private affairs and gossip about them....big, big problem in folks ..some get a sense of superiority from it ...some people have a constant need to talk about others to prop themselves up.

IMO, everyone would be better off tending to their own financial affairs rather then spending time denegrating someone else for their choices...their mistakes. Like I said..no one commenting here has the whole picture regardless of some brief conversation Ross had at one time. His finances are his business to choose to talk about or not....and even if he does it still isn't anyones business to speculate on it. I don't see how his financial affairs affect anyone except he and his family.
If anyone says..well it may affect the band...Ross is not the boss in the band..he is an employee and if he has to keep working for financial reasons it's no different then anyone else here having to continue to work to make money due to them needing to or in wanting to make more then they already have.


Word.


No, lots of words. (too many!)
For someone that doesn't like to read you sure do spend a lot of time on a message board full of writing. Whatcha been doing all this time only skipping thru the text for pictures? :lol: :wink:


You must have flunked math class in the obviously limited time you spent in high school. You have ten times the posts I do in just a little over a year longer than me. Next time, take you shoes and socks off and use your toes for counting before you spout off at the fingertips. :wink:
What does my post count have to do with what I just said? Even if you have posted less then me then how does that have anything to do with if you like to read or not? This is a message board full of text so either you just look for pictures or you do read ...you had to read to respond right now. At least be honest about it..it's only my posts that you don't like to read...which is cool with me...skip them. I don't ask you to read them. :wink: 8)
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:51 am

Good Lord people...Bankruptcy is a VERY private matter. Ross said his piece on BHM and that is all that needs to be known.

If he wanted to say more he will, or would have at least.

As has been said, it is his own business, and none of ours.

If you wouldn't ask someone something face to face (And I bet NO ONE here would even THINK to ask Ross to his face about his bankruptcy, because it would be considered RUDE) then why would you go on a PUBLIC forum and ask the same type of question to the general public which knows next to nothing about the truth of the matter?
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Postby Blueskies » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:53 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:Good Lord people...Bankruptcy is a VERY private matter. Ross said his piece on BHM and that is all that needs to be known.

If he wanted to say more he will, or would have at least.

As has been said, it is his own business, and none of ours.

If you wouldn't ask someone something face to face (And I bet NO ONE here would even THINK to ask Ross to his face about his bankruptcy, because it would be considered RUDE) then why would you go on a PUBLIC forum and ask the same type of question to the general public which knows next to nothing about the truth of the matter?

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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:57 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:Good Lord people...Bankruptcy is a VERY private matter. Ross said his piece on BHM and that is all that needs to be known.

If he wanted to say more he will, or would have at least.

As has been said, it is his own business, and none of ours.

If you wouldn't ask someone something face to face (And I bet NO ONE here would even THINK to ask Ross to his face about his bankruptcy, because it would be considered RUDE) then why would you go on a PUBLIC forum and ask the same type of question to the general public which knows next to nothing about the truth of the matter?


Oh shut up you dildo. There is a big difference between a public forum and the man himself.

How many of use here would discuss half of the things we do infront of the Jboys faces?
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Postby steveo777 » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:03 am

How do you think Ross would feel if he stopped by and read people talking about his personal business?

The more I think about it, this thread should probably be locked and or deleted. In typical forum fashion, even the smallest details of a person's life come under the microscope. He ain't exactly Paris Hilton. :roll:
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:04 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:Good Lord people...Bankruptcy is a VERY private matter. Ross said his piece on BHM and that is all that needs to be known.

If he wanted to say more he will, or would have at least.

As has been said, it is his own business, and none of ours.

If you wouldn't ask someone something face to face (And I bet NO ONE here would even THINK to ask Ross to his face about his bankruptcy, because it would be considered RUDE) then why would you go on a PUBLIC forum and ask the same type of question to the general public which knows next to nothing about the truth of the matter?


Oh shut up you dildo. There is a big difference between a public forum and the man himself.

How many of use here would discuss half of the things we do infront of the Jboys faces?


Not really a big difference at all, it's still rude.

Like calling someone a dildo, rude, and uncalled for.

I guess here in the States we are taught better manners than they teach in England. Most of us (not all by far) learn that if you wouldn't say something to someones face, you shouldn't say it at all.

Of course you are nice and safe behind the computer all the way across the Atlantic.

You wouldn't tell me to my face I was a dildo, not without losing your teeth, which given that you are a Brit might not be a bad thing.

Now go fuck off you ill mannered piece of shit, and yes I would say it to your face.
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Re: Ross Valory Bankrupt Question

Postby Gideon » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:05 am

You people are so silly. Where in this...

youkeepmewaiting wrote:I remember briefly reading a while ago that after Perry fired him he went bankrupt. Is this true?

I dont know why I'm bothered, just wanted to know.


...Does youkeepmewaiting blame Perry for Ross's bankruptcy? Being an indirect source of something doesn't make you directly responsible. (Sane) people don't blame their financial woes on their bosses after they get fired.

If Ross was in bankruptcy, it was his own problem.
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Postby Gideon » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:07 am

Voyager wrote:Now I understand why Ross seemed so bitter towards Perry on the VH1 BTM show. He was counting on a big TBF tour to pull his ass out of the poor house, and it didn't happen. Plus Perry fired him for ROR, so I guess Ross had valid reasons to be bitter.

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I'm not certain whether or not you're being sarcastic, but for the record, Ross seemd the least bitter about Perry. Which is ironic.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:07 am

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You wouldn't tell me to my face I was a dildo, not without losing your teeth, which given that you are a Brit might not be a bad thing.


Atta Boy!

Now go fuck off you ill mannered piece of shit, and yes I would say it to your face.


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Re: Ross Valory Bankrupt Question

Postby youkeepmewaiting » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:07 am

Gideon wrote:You people are so silly. Where in this...

youkeepmewaiting wrote:I remember briefly reading a while ago that after Perry fired him he went bankrupt. Is this true?

I dont know why I'm bothered, just wanted to know.


...Does youkeepmewaiting blame Perry for Ross's bankruptcy? Being an indirect source of something doesn't make you directly responsible. (Sane) people don't blame their financial woes on their bosses after they get fired.

If Ross was in bankruptcy, it was his own problem.


Nope I dont blame Perry at all.
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:09 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:Good Lord people...Bankruptcy is a VERY private matter. Ross said his piece on BHM and that is all that needs to be known.

If he wanted to say more he will, or would have at least.

As has been said, it is his own business, and none of ours.

If you wouldn't ask someone something face to face (And I bet NO ONE here would even THINK to ask Ross to his face about his bankruptcy, because it would be considered RUDE) then why would you go on a PUBLIC forum and ask the same type of question to the general public which knows next to nothing about the truth of the matter?


Oh shut up you dildo. There is a big difference between a public forum and the man himself.

How many of use here would discuss half of the things we do infront of the Jboys faces?



Not really a big difference at all, it's still rude.

Like calling someone a dildo, rude, and uncalled for.

I guess here in the States we are taught better manners than they teach in England. Most of us (not all by far) learn that if you wouldn't say something to someones face, you shouldn't say it at all.

Of course you are nice and safe behind the computer all the way across the Atlantic.

You wouldn't tell me to my face I was a dildo, not without losing your teeth, which given that you are a Brit might not be a bad thing.

Now go fuck off you ill mannered piece of shit, and yes I would say it to your face.


My teeth are quite nice.
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Postby Monker » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:48 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:Good Lord people...Bankruptcy is a VERY private matter. Ross said his piece on BHM and that is all that needs to be known.

If he wanted to say more he will, or would have at least.

As has been said, it is his own business, and none of ours.

If you wouldn't ask someone something face to face (And I bet NO ONE here would even THINK to ask Ross to his face about his bankruptcy, because it would be considered RUDE) then why would you go on a PUBLIC forum and ask the same type of question to the general public which knows next to nothing about the truth of the matter?


So, you are saying we shouldn't come on to a public forum and say that Ross had a drug problem and spent himself into bankruptcy prior to ROR...

And, of course it didn't help that he receives next to nothing for royalties for songwriting credits...Ross and Smith made their money on the road, and from album bonuses, which I assume Herbie was talking about. To compare Ross' royalties to Perry's royalties (or Jonathan's, or even Neal's) is ridiculous.
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Re: Ross Valory Bankrupt Question

Postby Monker » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:51 pm

Gideon wrote:You people are so silly. Where in this...

youkeepmewaiting wrote:I remember briefly reading a while ago that after Perry fired him he went bankrupt. Is this true?

I dont know why I'm bothered, just wanted to know.


...Does youkeepmewaiting blame Perry for Ross's bankruptcy? Being an indirect source of something doesn't make you directly responsible. (Sane) people don't blame their financial woes on their bosses after they get fired.

If Ross was in bankruptcy, it was his own problem.


You are correct...Except that Perry didn't help the situation any by firing Ross. Perry effectively eliminated Ross' income by not allowing him to tour with Journey.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:06 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:Good Lord people...Bankruptcy is a VERY private matter. Ross said his piece on BHM and that is all that needs to be known.

If he wanted to say more he will, or would have at least.

As has been said, it is his own business, and none of ours.

If you wouldn't ask someone something face to face (And I bet NO ONE here would even THINK to ask Ross to his face about his bankruptcy, because it would be considered RUDE) then why would you go on a PUBLIC forum and ask the same type of question to the general public which knows next to nothing about the truth of the matter?


Oh shut up you dildo. There is a big difference between a public forum and the man himself.

How many of use here would discuss half of the things we do infront of the Jboys faces?



Not really a big difference at all, it's still rude.

Like calling someone a dildo, rude, and uncalled for.

I guess here in the States we are taught better manners than they teach in England. Most of us (not all by far) learn that if you wouldn't say something to someones face, you shouldn't say it at all.

Of course you are nice and safe behind the computer all the way across the Atlantic.

You wouldn't tell me to my face I was a dildo, not without losing your teeth, which given that you are a Brit might not be a bad thing.

Now go fuck off you ill mannered piece of shit, and yes I would say it to your face.


My teeth are quite nice.


Mine are better.
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:28 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:Good Lord people...Bankruptcy is a VERY private matter. Ross said his piece on BHM and that is all that needs to be known.

If he wanted to say more he will, or would have at least.

As has been said, it is his own business, and none of ours.

If you wouldn't ask someone something face to face (And I bet NO ONE here would even THINK to ask Ross to his face about his bankruptcy, because it would be considered RUDE) then why would you go on a PUBLIC forum and ask the same type of question to the general public which knows next to nothing about the truth of the matter?


Oh shut up you dildo. There is a big difference between a public forum and the man himself.

How many of use here would discuss half of the things we do infront of the Jboys faces?



Not really a big difference at all, it's still rude.

Like calling someone a dildo, rude, and uncalled for.

I guess here in the States we are taught better manners than they teach in England. Most of us (not all by far) learn that if you wouldn't say something to someones face, you shouldn't say it at all.

Of course you are nice and safe behind the computer all the way across the Atlantic.

You wouldn't tell me to my face I was a dildo, not without losing your teeth, which given that you are a Brit might not be a bad thing.

Now go fuck off you ill mannered piece of shit, and yes I would say it to your face.


My teeth are quite nice.


Mine are better.


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